Ll

"Leon"

25/08/2010 2:06 PM

New job request

I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
would you buy the kit again.

Thank in Advance..



This topic has 14 replies

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

26/08/2010 6:18 PM


"LdB" <LdB@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On 8/25/2010 2:06 PM, Leon wrote:
>> I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have
>> several
>> internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
>> had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
>> would you buy the kit again.
>>
>> Thank in Advance..
>>
>>
>>
> I built a Murphy bed with a kit from Lee Valley. It's a queen sized
> vertically mounted frame. The plans were clear and easy to understand. I
> modified the plans slightly because I built the Murphy bed out of 1 x 6
> tongue and grove material instead of plywood or MDF as spesified by the
> plans. I also built it to come apart easily. It's too big to get out of
> the bedroom assembled and weighs a ton. The mechanism works well, my wife
> has no trouble opening or closing the bed. I would buy another kit from
> them again. I've found Lee Valley to be an excellent company to deal with.
> If there's any problem they will make it right.
>
> LdB

I'll look in to that, thank you very much.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

25/08/2010 10:34 PM


<BGlegal1@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 25, 2:06 pm, "Leon" <lcb11...@swbell.dotnet> wrote:
> I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
> internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
> had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
> would you buy the kit again.
>
> Thank in Advance..

I built one a few months back using the Create-A-Bed hardware kit.
Pretty simple and the kit comes with very detailed written
instructions and a DVD. The lady I built it for is very happy with
the finished product. I'd use this kit again.



This one... http://www.wallbed.com/

Thanks again.


LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

26/08/2010 6:37 AM

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:34:21 -0500, "Leon" <lcb11211@swbell.dotnet>
wrote:

>
><BGlegal1@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:e05321f8-a371-433d-a5a0-611c958ce470@g17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>On Aug 25, 2:06 pm, "Leon" <lcb11...@swbell.dotnet> wrote:
>> I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
>> internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
>> had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
>> would you buy the kit again.
>>
>> Thank in Advance..
>
>I built one a few months back using the Create-A-Bed hardware kit.
>Pretty simple and the kit comes with very detailed written
>instructions and a DVD. The lady I built it for is very happy with
>the finished product. I'd use this kit again.
>
>
>
>This one... http://www.wallbed.com/

I've always wondered where the Murphy bed folks got their pricing.
Let's see: 1pr pressurized shocks $40, 1pr top brackets $20, 1pr
bottom brackets $25, 1pr hinges $20, screws $1, shipping $10,
instruction sheet $183. Hmm, that's not right... ;)

--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

29/08/2010 2:05 AM


"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote

> I'd like to see some pictures of that bed setup. Sounds like a good
> one.

Unfortunately, that was the house I grew up in. I haven't seen it in close
to 25 years.

It was pretty cool. He didn't give a second thought about building
something like that. A bit too much unless you really wanted to spend some
time on making it all come together.

It might be something that a person could refine and produce for sale on the
market, though.
--
Jim in NC

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

28/08/2010 9:45 AM


"Morgans" <jsmorgan@charterJUNK.net> wrote in message
news:Oz_do.23369$st2.13536@newsfe09.iad...
>
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbell.dotnet> wrote in message
> news:G82dnXKS-sEl9OjRnZ2dnUVZ5t6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
>>internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
>>had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
>>would you buy the kit again.
>>
>> Thank in Advance..
>
> My dad was a mechanical engineer, and made his own for his house. It was
> used almost daily.
>
> He welded up an angle iron frame for the box spring and mattress. At the
> head, it had a stout angle iron headboard assembly, with wood fastened
> onto the steel frame. He attached some pillow block bearings to the frame
> and wall in a location that would make the frame end up flush with the
> wall when in the up and stored position. He mounted paneling on the
> bottom of the frame so that it would look like the rest of the wall when
> the bed was closed. He mounted pictures on the wall with a hinge along
> the top of the frame, so they would hang down as the bed lowered to become
> the feet for the bed.
>
> A shaft was mounted to the back side of the wall pocket with drums that an
> eight inch steel cable would wind onto, that pulled on the back side of
> the headboard frame. A geared speed reducer chain drove the shaft and
> drums, with an electric motor belt driving the reducer. Limit switches
> stopped the motor at the correct up and down positions. All you had to do
> was flip a switch up for the bed to go up, and down for it to go down,
> with the limit switches stopping it at the correct location.
>
> With a little creativity and a little help from an engineer friend, you
> could make your own, I'll bet!
> --
> Jim in NC

Well thanks for the inspiration and it sounds like you dad had it going
on....

This is going to be a paying job and time is money..... I think the kits
are going to be my route as they are cheaper than my time, and probably a
bit more fool proof. ;~)

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

25/08/2010 7:08 PM

Careful! Some only support sideways attachment of the bed frames. This may
not be the way you want the drop out dimensions.


"Leon" <lcb11211@swbell.dotnet> wrote in message
news:G82dnXKS-sEl9OjRnZ2dnUVZ5t6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
would you buy the kit again.

Thank in Advance..




JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

25/08/2010 7:07 PM

Careful! Some only support sideways attachment of the bed frames. This may
not be the way you want the drop out dimensions.


"Leon" <lcb11211@swbell.dotnet> wrote in message
news:G82dnXKS-sEl9OjRnZ2dnUVZ5t6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
would you buy the kit again.

Thank in Advance..



Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

25/08/2010 10:34 PM


"Han" <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in message
news:Xns9DDFB377F14BAikkezelf@207.246.207.161...
> "BGlegal1@aol.com" <BGlegal1@aol.com> wrote in
> news:e05321f8-a371-433d-a5a0-611c958ce470@g17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Aug 25, 2:06 pm, "Leon" <lcb11...@swbell.dotnet> wrote:
>>> I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have
>>> seve
>> ral
>>> internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any
>>> one had had any experience with this and which kit they may have
>>> used. And would you buy the kit again.
>>>
>>> Thank in Advance..
>>
>> I built one a few months back using the Create-A-Bed hardware kit.
>> Pretty simple and the kit comes with very detailed written
>> instructions and a DVD. The lady I built it for is very happy with
>> the finished product. I'd use this kit again.
>
> I also use the Create-A-Bed kit and instructions. Very clear overall. I
> haven't finished it yet, but am already thinking of another one.
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid

Two approvals, Thankyou both!

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

27/08/2010 10:31 PM


"Leon" <lcb11211@swbell.dotnet> wrote in message
news:G82dnXKS-sEl9OjRnZ2dnUVZ5t6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
>internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
>had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
>would you buy the kit again.
>
> Thank in Advance..

My dad was a mechanical engineer, and made his own for his house. It was
used almost daily.

He welded up an angle iron frame for the box spring and mattress. At the
head, it had a stout angle iron headboard assembly, with wood fastened onto
the steel frame. He attached some pillow block bearings to the frame and
wall in a location that would make the frame end up flush with the wall when
in the up and stored position. He mounted paneling on the bottom of the
frame so that it would look like the rest of the wall when the bed was
closed. He mounted pictures on the wall with a hinge along the top of the
frame, so they would hang down as the bed lowered to become the feet for the
bed.

A shaft was mounted to the back side of the wall pocket with drums that an
eight inch steel cable would wind onto, that pulled on the back side of the
headboard frame. A geared speed reducer chain drove the shaft and drums,
with an electric motor belt driving the reducer. Limit switches stopped the
motor at the correct up and down positions. All you had to do was flip a
switch up for the bed to go up, and down for it to go down, with the limit
switches stopping it at the correct location.

With a little creativity and a little help from an engineer friend, you
could make your own, I'll bet!
--
Jim in NC

LL

LdB

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

26/08/2010 11:10 AM

On 8/25/2010 2:06 PM, Leon wrote:
> I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. I have several
> internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
> had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. And
> would you buy the kit again.
>
> Thank in Advance..
>
>
>
I built a Murphy bed with a kit from Lee Valley. It's a queen sized
vertically mounted frame. The plans were clear and easy to understand.
I modified the plans slightly because I built the Murphy bed out of 1
x 6 tongue and grove material instead of plywood or MDF as spesified
by the plans. I also built it to come apart easily. It's too big to
get out of the bedroom assembled and weighs a ton. The mechanism works
well, my wife has no trouble opening or closing the bed. I would buy
another kit from them again. I've found Lee Valley to be an excellent
company to deal with. If there's any problem they will make it right.

LdB

Hn

Han

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

25/08/2010 9:38 PM

"BGlegal1@aol.com" <BGlegal1@aol.com> wrote in
news:e05321f8-a371-433d-a5a0-611c958ce470@g17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

> On Aug 25, 2:06 pm, "Leon" <lcb11...@swbell.dotnet> wrote:
>> I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed.  I have
>> seve
> ral
>> internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any
>> one had had any experience with this and which kit they may have
>> used.  And would you buy the kit again.
>>
>> Thank in Advance..
>
> I built one a few months back using the Create-A-Bed hardware kit.
> Pretty simple and the kit comes with very detailed written
> instructions and a DVD. The lady I built it for is very happy with
> the finished product. I'd use this kit again.

I also use the Create-A-Bed kit and instructions. Very clear overall. I
haven't finished it yet, but am already thinking of another one.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

26/08/2010 5:10 PM

LdB <LdB@nowhere.com> wrote in news:WIGdnZaDAcOMD-
vRnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@supernews.com:

> I built a Murphy bed with a kit from Lee Valley

What I see at Lee Valley is identical to the create-a-bed hardware. YMMV

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

BB

"BGlegal1@aol.com"

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

25/08/2010 1:20 PM

On Aug 25, 2:06=A0pm, "Leon" <lcb11...@swbell.dotnet> wrote:
> I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. =A0I have seve=
ral
> internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any one
> had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. =A0And
> would you buy the kit again.
>
> Thank in Advance..

I built one a few months back using the Create-A-Bed hardware kit.
Pretty simple and the kit comes with very detailed written
instructions and a DVD. The lady I built it for is very happy with
the finished product. I'd use this kit again.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Leon" on 25/08/2010 2:06 PM

28/08/2010 8:29 AM

On Aug 27, 10:31=A0pm, "Morgans" <jsmor...@charterJUNK.net> wrote:
> "Leon" <lcb11...@swbell.dotnet> wrote in message
>
> news:G82dnXKS-sEl9OjRnZ2dnUVZ5t6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> >I have been contacted by a customer to build a Murphy bed. =A0I have sev=
eral
> >internet locations that offer hardware however I was wondering if any on=
e
> >had had any experience with this and which kit they may have used. =A0An=
d
> >would you buy the kit again.
>
> > Thank in Advance..
>
> My dad was a mechanical engineer, and made his own for his house. =A0It w=
as
> used almost daily.
>
> He welded up an angle iron frame for the box spring and mattress. =A0At t=
he
> head, it had a stout angle iron headboard assembly, with wood fastened on=
to
> the steel frame. =A0He attached some pillow block bearings to the frame a=
nd
> wall in a location that would make the frame end up flush with the wall w=
hen
> in the up and stored position. =A0He mounted paneling on the bottom of th=
e
> frame =A0so that it would look like the rest of the wall when the bed was
> closed. =A0He mounted pictures on the wall with a hinge along the top of =
the
> frame, so they would hang down as the bed lowered to become the feet for =
the
> bed.
>
> A shaft was mounted to the back side of the wall pocket with drums that a=
n
> eight inch steel cable would wind onto, that pulled on the back side of t=
he
> headboard frame. =A0A geared speed reducer chain drove the shaft and drum=
s,
> with an electric motor belt driving the reducer. =A0Limit switches stoppe=
d the
> motor at the correct up and down positions. =A0All you had to do was flip=
a
> switch up for the bed to go up, and down for it to go down, with the limi=
t
> switches stopping it at the correct location.
>
> With a little creativity and a little help from an engineer friend, you
> could make your own, I'll bet!

I'd like to see some pictures of that bed setup. Sounds like a good
one.

R


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