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JayPique

02/11/2012 5:16 PM

Cutting 3.5" foam insulation board

Any ideers?

JP


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Puckdropper

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

03/11/2012 3:17 AM

JayPique <[email protected]> wrote in news:0124da3f-f281-46ad-9165-
[email protected]:

> Any ideers?
>
> JP

Depends on how big of mess you want to make. A serated knife will cut
through foam effectively, but creates a bunch of static charged dust that
gets all over the place.

A long thin (really thin) non-serated blade will make less mess, but at
the expense of signifcantly increased drag as you try to cut through the
material. A sharp and honed blade does help quite a bit.

A hot wire foam cutter would be the next best thing. If you make your
own, you can do it for a fraction of the cost of the commercial ones. I
used a model train set transformer and some replacement hot-wire tool
wire (from the hobby shop) as the base of mine. The wire needs to be
stretched between a couple of posts for straight cuts, but that's easy
enough from a woodworking standpoint. If you're interested, I can point
you to more detailed instructions.

For carving, a SurForm rasp does a great job at making a mess and a good
job at carving.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

03/11/2012 7:37 PM

JayPique <[email protected]> wrote in news:0124da3f-f281-46ad-9165-
[email protected]:

> Any ideers?
>
> JP
>

Just to add to the list...

A hand saw would work well. The traditional Western-style saw will make
short work of the foam, at the expense of staticy dust and rough edge.
Since you'll get a rough edge anyway, it doesn't even matter if it's very
sharp.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 5:31 PM

Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

>
>
> There is a free video on finehomebuilding.com where the guy swears by
> a wide putty knife. He shows it cutting 1" (or so) foam board, but it
> might apply to the thicker stuff
>
> FWIW
> -BR
>

Curious... I would think it would tear and grab. If you sharpened the
edges, it might cut through nicely.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 11:54 AM

On Nov 4, 7:30=A0am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
> > On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:16:28 PM UTC-6, JayPique wrote:
> > > Any ideers? JP
>
> > I use a manual and electric knife for cutting various upholstery foams =
and use 781 dry silicone to help the knife glide through the foam easily. =
=A0 I don't know about foam insulation. =A0Might try some 781 dry silicone =
to help the knife glide through the insulation. =A0Should be available at y=
our local upholstery supplier -http://www.perfectfit.com/24783/247264/Uphol=
stery-Adhesives/VS-Dry-Si...=A0Just whisk a light coating onto the knife bl=
ade and cut away.
>
> Respray the blade periodically/after several cuttings.
>
> At home I just plop foam insulation down on the table saw and treat it
> like wood. =A0Helps to have a big cyclone dust collector.
>
> When I'm not at home a snap blade knife does fine--the kind that
> DoItBest sells for 3 bucks.
> <http://www.doitbest.com/Utility+and+craft+knives-Do+it+Best-model-
> 314196-doitbest-sku-314196.dib>
>
> Never thought to try lubing the blade--next time I have foam to cut I
> may try some bowling alley wax on it.

Paste wax works fine.

aJ

[email protected] (Jerry OHIO)

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

02/11/2012 11:29 PM

Score it with a razor knife then snap it.

Jerry

http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/WOODPROJECTS

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 8:03 PM

On Nov 3, 2:37=A0pm, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> JayPique <[email protected]> wrote in news:0124da3f-f281-46ad-9165-
> [email protected]:
>
> > Any ideers?
>
> > JP
>
> Just to add to the list...
>
> A hand saw would work well. =A0The traditional Western-style saw will mak=
e
> short work of the foam, at the expense of staticy dust and rough edge.
> Since you'll get a rough edge anyway, it doesn't even matter if it's very
> sharp.

Old beater-grade panel saw. Strip the teeth, file to a
knife edge. Wax. Should almost melt its way through
without making dust.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

04/11/2012 7:27 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:16:28 PM UTC-6, JayPique wrote:
> > Any ideers? JP
>
> I use a manual and electric knife for cutting various upholstery foams and use 781 dry silicone to help the knife glide through the foam easily. I don't know about foam insulation. Might try some 781 dry silicone to help the knife glide through the insulation. Should be available at your local upholstery supplier - http://www.perfectfit.com/24783/247264/Upholstery-Adhesives/VS-Dry-Silicone-Spray.html Just whisk a light coating onto the knife blade and cut away.
Respray the blade periodically/after several cuttings.

At home I just plop foam insulation down on the table saw and treat it
like wood. Helps to have a big cyclone dust collector.

When I'm not at home a snap blade knife does fine--the kind that
DoItBest sells for 3 bucks.
<http://www.doitbest.com/Utility+and+craft+knives-Do+it+Best-model-
314196-doitbest-sku-314196.dib>

Never thought to try lubing the blade--next time I have foam to cut I
may try some bowling alley wax on it.

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

03/11/2012 11:00 AM

I agree w/ Puckdropper. I have made my own hotwire cutter the same way.
Also a kitchen knife works ok. I have a jig saw blade that is basially a
razor blade. You can make your own by taking a carbon steel blade and
using a belt sander to put a blade on. I would try the silicone spray,
or teflon spray too on a kitchen knife or jig saw blade.. don't re-use
the kitchen knife after that.

On 11/2/2012 11:17 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> JayPique <[email protected]> wrote in news:0124da3f-f281-46ad-9165-
> [email protected]:
>
>> Any ideers?
>>
>> JP
>
> Depends on how big of mess you want to make. A serated knife will cut
> through foam effectively, but creates a bunch of static charged dust that
> gets all over the place.
>
> A long thin (really thin) non-serated blade will make less mess, but at
> the expense of signifcantly increased drag as you try to cut through the
> material. A sharp and honed blade does help quite a bit.
>
> A hot wire foam cutter would be the next best thing. If you make your
> own, you can do it for a fraction of the cost of the commercial ones. I
> used a model train set transformer and some replacement hot-wire tool
> wire (from the hobby shop) as the base of mine. The wire needs to be
> stretched between a couple of posts for straight cuts, but that's easy
> enough from a woodworking standpoint. If you're interested, I can point
> you to more detailed instructions.
>
> For carving, a SurForm rasp does a great job at making a mess and a good
> job at carving.
>
> Puckdropper
>

Nn

"Nick"

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

04/11/2012 4:48 PM


"JayPique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Any ideers?
>
> JP

For thin stuff a long, sharp, thin bladed knife. For thicker stuff a
handsaw.

What do you call a blind deer?
No idea

What do you call a blind deer with no legs?
Still no idea

What do you call a blind deer with no legs and is bleeding.
Still no bl**dy idea.

I'll get my coat.

Nick.

Ll

Leon

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

03/11/2012 9:03 AM

On 11/2/2012 7:16 PM, JayPique wrote:
> Any ideers?
>
> JP
>
Might be helpful to know how accurately you need to cut it. Coping saw,
circular saw, knife, etc all work.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 11:53 AM

On Nov 2, 7:34=A0pm, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "JayPique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Any ideers?
>
> > JP
>
> A hot wire cutter or an electric carving knife.
> Art

Hot wire works beautifully with a jig or template. Cuts
equally well in all directions, IOW a mother to control
freehanded. Smells like burning styrofoam, best done
outside.

Sc

Sonny

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

02/11/2012 6:20 PM

On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:16:28 PM UTC-6, JayPique wrote:
> Any ideers? JP

I use a manual and electric knife for cutting various upholstery foams and =
use 781 dry silicone to help the knife glide through the foam easily. I d=
on't know about foam insulation. Might try some 781 dry silicone to help t=
he knife glide through the insulation. Should be available at your local u=
pholstery supplier - http://www.perfectfit.com/24783/247264/Upholstery-Adhe=
sives/VS-Dry-Silicone-Spray.html Just whisk a light coating onto the knife=
blade and cut away. Respray the blade periodically/after several cuttings=
.

Sonny

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

02/11/2012 11:04 PM

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:16:27 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Any ideers?
>
>JP


Hot wire is best, bandsaw is good, electric knife works, handsaw works
well.

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

02/11/2012 5:34 PM


"JayPique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Any ideers?
>
> JP

A hot wire cutter or an electric carving knife.
Art

MM

"Meanie"

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

02/11/2012 10:33 PM


"JayPique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Any ideers?
>
> JP

As suggested, a hot wire or the multifunction tool with a straight scraper
blade.Works like a charm.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

03/11/2012 11:42 AM

On 11/2/12 7:16 PM, JayPique wrote:
> Any ideers?
>
> JP
>

Rigid? Utility blade-- score and snap.
Soft? I've never seen soft foam insulation board. :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

04/11/2012 11:55 AM

On 11/4/12 10:48 AM, Nick wrote:
> I'll get my coat.
>

LOL! stolen.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

KM

"Kerry Montgomery"

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

04/11/2012 10:57 AM


"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:16:28 PM UTC-6, JayPique wrote:
>> > Any ideers? JP
>>
>> I use a manual and electric knife for cutting various upholstery foams
>> and use 781 dry silicone to help the knife glide through the foam easily.
>> I don't know about foam insulation. Might try some 781 dry silicone to
>> help the knife glide through the insulation. Should be available at your
>> local upholstery supplier -
>> http://www.perfectfit.com/24783/247264/Upholstery-Adhesives/VS-Dry-Silicone-Spray.html
>> Just whisk a light coating onto the knife blade and cut away.
> Respray the blade periodically/after several cuttings.
>
> At home I just plop foam insulation down on the table saw and treat it
> like wood. Helps to have a big cyclone dust collector.
>
> When I'm not at home a snap blade knife does fine--the kind that
> DoItBest sells for 3 bucks.
> <http://www.doitbest.com/Utility+and+craft+knives-Do+it+Best-model-
> 314196-doitbest-sku-314196.dib>
>
> Never thought to try lubing the blade--next time I have foam to cut I
> may try some bowling alley wax on it.
>
JP,
A hot wire works great on ridgid insulation foam. You can do very detailed
work. At that thickness, it may be slower than you like, though. DON'T use
it on polyurethane foams - makes toxic fumes.
Kerry


Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 1:23 PM

On 11/5/12 11:31 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Bruce <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>>
>> There is a free video on finehomebuilding.com where the guy swears by
>> a wide putty knife. He shows it cutting 1" (or so) foam board, but it
>> might apply to the thicker stuff
>>
>> FWIW
>> -BR
>>
>
> Curious... I would think it would tear and grab. If you sharpened the
> edges, it might cut through nicely.
>
> Puckdropper
>

Depends on the "foam."
Putty knives work great on some rigid without sharpening and not great
on other stuff without sharpening.
I'm still not convinced everyone in this thread is talking about rigid
foam when offering their opinions.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

02/11/2012 10:19 PM

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:16:27 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Any ideers?

Depending on the type of foam and shapes you need: CNC router, angle
grinder with flap disc, and/or hot wire cutter.

A handheld router, scroll saw, or coping saw work in a pinch, too.

If you're really dextrous, try a katana. Please film it if you do.

BTW, I love your question. It reminds me of people who would call the
body shop on the phone and ask for an estimate for their collision
damage with "It's a blue Chevy, I think." as the entire details.
<sigh>

--
The great thing about getting older is that
you don't lose all the other ages you've been.
-- Madeleine L'Engle

Mm

Markem

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 1:53 PM

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:16:27 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Any ideers?
>
>JP

Propane torch and a old cheap kitchen knife.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 6:51 PM

On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:34:21 -0700, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 05:27:00 -0700, J. Clarke wrote
>(in article <[email protected]>):
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:16:28 PM UTC-6, JayPique wrote:
>>>> Any ideers? JP
>>>
>>> I use a manual and electric knife for cutting various upholstery foams and
>>> use 781 dry silicone to help the knife glide through the foam easily. I
>>> don't know about foam insulation. Might try some 781 dry silicone to help
>>> the knife glide through the insulation. Should be available at your local
>>> upholstery supplier -
>>> http://www.perfectfit.com/24783/247264/Upholstery-Adhesives/VS-Dry-Silicone-
>>> Spray.html Just whisk a light coating onto the knife blade and cut away.
>> Respray the blade periodically/after several cuttings.
>>
>> At home I just plop foam insulation down on the table saw and treat it
>> like wood. Helps to have a big cyclone dust collector.
>>
>> When I'm not at home a snap blade knife does fine--the kind that
>> DoItBest sells for 3 bucks.
>> <http://www.doitbest.com/Utility+and+craft+knives-Do+it+Best-model-
>> 314196-doitbest-sku-314196.dib>
>>
>> Never thought to try lubing the blade--next time I have foam to cut I
>> may try some bowling alley wax on it.
>>
>
>
>There is a free video on finehomebuilding.com where the guy swears by a wide
>putty knife. He shows it cutting 1" (or so) foam board, but it might apply to
>the thicker stuff

For 1", use a nice little linoleum (or other hawkbilled) knife.

http://tinyurl.com/a8gck47
http://tinyurl.com/bfgu6vw Firefighter kerambit (in my truck)
http://tinyurl.com/a2besvd rigging knife (in my backpack)

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is to allow part of us to die - whether it is our spirit, our
creativity, or our glorious uniqueness.
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Bb

Bruce

in reply to JayPique on 02/11/2012 5:16 PM

05/11/2012 8:34 AM

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 05:27:00 -0700, J. Clarke wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:16:28 PM UTC-6, JayPique wrote:
>>> Any ideers? JP
>>
>> I use a manual and electric knife for cutting various upholstery foams and
>> use 781 dry silicone to help the knife glide through the foam easily. I
>> don't know about foam insulation. Might try some 781 dry silicone to help
>> the knife glide through the insulation. Should be available at your local
>> upholstery supplier -
>> http://www.perfectfit.com/24783/247264/Upholstery-Adhesives/VS-Dry-Silicone-
>> Spray.html Just whisk a light coating onto the knife blade and cut away.
> Respray the blade periodically/after several cuttings.
>
> At home I just plop foam insulation down on the table saw and treat it
> like wood. Helps to have a big cyclone dust collector.
>
> When I'm not at home a snap blade knife does fine--the kind that
> DoItBest sells for 3 bucks.
> <http://www.doitbest.com/Utility+and+craft+knives-Do+it+Best-model-
> 314196-doitbest-sku-314196.dib>
>
> Never thought to try lubing the blade--next time I have foam to cut I
> may try some bowling alley wax on it.
>


There is a free video on finehomebuilding.com where the guy swears by a wide
putty knife. He shows it cutting 1" (or so) foam board, but it might apply to
the thicker stuff

FWIW
-BR


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