HM

Harry Mangalam

09/11/2004 10:19 PM

Proxxon/Merlin e-motor mini-grinder vs mini air die grinder

I do a lot of freehand carving of wooden spoons and bowls, roughing with a
bandsaw and then chainsaw disk, then successively finer kutzall disks all,
on motorized angle grinders. This works quite well, but the disks are a
bit large for doing the inside of spoons and the whine of the angle
grinders is a pain. I wear ear protection, but I think the neighbors may be
starting to tire of it.

I saw an ad for the Proxxon mini grinder at King Arthur Tools (renamed the
Merlin):
http://www.kingarthurstools.com/merlin.htm
It's packaged with pretty much the blades I'd like for ~$200. However, it
looks a bit weak for the kind of work I do and I'd like feedback by anyone
who has ever used it. Quality of construction, sound, ease of use,
vibration, etc.

Alternatively, some friends have suggested switching to air tools, using
something like mini die grinders on a big compressed air rig. This seems
attractive for the relative cheapness of the handpieces and decreased sound
(motor only runs after pressure has decreased past the cut-in point). I saw
that Sam Maloof runs this sort of setup in his shop to good effect :) but
the additional cost of the compressor and large tank are significant
(~$1000). Feedback on this is also welcome and appreciated.

please cc me as my connection to the news server seems to be spotty.

Thanks!
Harry


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Harry Mangalam

in reply to Harry Mangalam on 09/11/2004 10:19 PM

10/11/2004 9:35 AM

Thanks for the info - are you cutting the wood green or cured? - I do most
of my rough carving on green wood.

Also, what's the noise level like? Comparable to to an angle grinder
(hounds of hell wail) or more like a dremel/foredom (annoying whine)?

Best,
Harry


dteckie wrote:
> I just purchased the Proxxon carver a couple of weeks ago. It's light,
> minimal vibration and seems to be built solid. I have used it only
> once to get the feel of it and was somewhat dissapointed. I have found
> the unit to be a bit on the weakside when carving wood. The chain
> cutter/carver is not cutting into hardwood as I expected, maybe
> carving basswood will be better but haven't tried it. I was planning
> on using this unit mainly for roughing out but was dissapointed with
> oak and butternut. I amInterested on other feedback from those who are
> using it.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Harry Mangalam on 09/11/2004 10:19 PM

10/11/2004 6:24 AM


"Harry Mangalam writes:

<snip>
> Alternatively, some friends have suggested switching to air tools, using
> something like mini die grinders on a big compressed air rig.

If you are willing to make the investment, air operated die grinders are the
way to go, if for no other reason the very large selection of burrs designed
for the die maker.

If you go air, a 5HP, 240V/1PH motor driving a 2 stage compressor on top of
an 80 gal vertical tank is a very good package for anything other than
industrial applications.

I like mine.

HTH

Lew

dd

[email protected] (dteckie)

in reply to Harry Mangalam on 09/11/2004 10:19 PM

10/11/2004 7:08 AM

Harry Mangalam <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<6xhkd.97218$kz3.9419@fed1read02>...
> I do a lot of freehand carving of wooden spoons and bowls, roughing with a
> bandsaw and then chainsaw disk, then successively finer kutzall disks all,
> on motorized angle grinders. This works quite well, but the disks are a
> bit large for doing the inside of spoons and the whine of the angle
> grinders is a pain. I wear ear protection, but I think the neighbors may be
> starting to tire of it.
>
> I saw an ad for the Proxxon mini grinder at King Arthur Tools (renamed the
> Merlin):
> http://www.kingarthurstools.com/merlin.htm
> It's packaged with pretty much the blades I'd like for ~$200. However, it
> looks a bit weak for the kind of work I do and I'd like feedback by anyone
> who has ever used it. Quality of construction, sound, ease of use,
> vibration, etc.
>
> Alternatively, some friends have suggested switching to air tools, using
> something like mini die grinders on a big compressed air rig. This seems
> attractive for the relative cheapness of the handpieces and decreased sound
> (motor only runs after pressure has decreased past the cut-in point). I saw
> that Sam Maloof runs this sort of setup in his shop to good effect :) but
> the additional cost of the compressor and large tank are significant
> (~$1000). Feedback on this is also welcome and appreciated.
>
> please cc me as my connection to the news server seems to be spotty.
>
> Thanks!
> Harry

Harry

I just purchased the Proxxon carver a couple of weeks ago. It's light,
minimal vibration and seems to be built solid. I have used it only
once to get the feel of it and was somewhat dissapointed. I have found
the unit to be a bit on the weakside when carving wood. The chain
cutter/carver is not cutting into hardwood as I expected, maybe
carving basswood will be better but haven't tried it. I was planning
on using this unit mainly for roughing out but was dissapointed with
oak and butternut. I amInterested on other feedback from those who are
using it.

dd

[email protected] (dteckie)

in reply to Harry Mangalam on 09/11/2004 10:19 PM

15/11/2004 4:15 AM

Harry Mangalam <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<3rrkd.97432$kz3.47110@fed1read02>...
> Thanks for the info - are you cutting the wood green or cured? - I do most
> of my rough carving on green wood.

A. Carve cured wood

>
> Also, what's the noise level like? Comparable to to an angle grinder
> (hounds of hell wail) or more like a dremel/foredom (annoying whine)?

A. Noise level is not bad about same as drill or router.
>
> Best,
> Harry
>
>
> dteckie wrote:
> > I just purchased the Proxxon carver a couple of weeks ago. It's light,
> > minimal vibration and seems to be built solid. I have used it only
> > once to get the feel of it and was somewhat dissapointed. I have found
> > the unit to be a bit on the weakside when carving wood. The chain
> > cutter/carver is not cutting into hardwood as I expected, maybe
> > carving basswood will be better but haven't tried it. I was planning
> > on using this unit mainly for roughing out but was dissapointed with
> > oak and butternut. I amInterested on other feedback from those who are
> > using it.

dd

[email protected] (dteckie)

in reply to Harry Mangalam on 09/11/2004 10:19 PM

15/11/2004 4:15 AM

Harry Mangalam <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<3rrkd.97432$kz3.47110@fed1read02>...
> Thanks for the info - are you cutting the wood green or cured? - I do most
> of my rough carving on green wood.

A. Carve cured wood

>
> Also, what's the noise level like? Comparable to to an angle grinder
> (hounds of hell wail) or more like a dremel/foredom (annoying whine)?

A. Noise level is not bad about same as drill or router.
>
> Best,
> Harry
>
>
> dteckie wrote:
> > I just purchased the Proxxon carver a couple of weeks ago. It's light,
> > minimal vibration and seems to be built solid. I have used it only
> > once to get the feel of it and was somewhat dissapointed. I have found
> > the unit to be a bit on the weakside when carving wood. The chain
> > cutter/carver is not cutting into hardwood as I expected, maybe
> > carving basswood will be better but haven't tried it. I was planning
> > on using this unit mainly for roughing out but was dissapointed with
> > oak and butternut. I amInterested on other feedback from those who are
> > using it.


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