In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> If girls gave each other wedgies that style would be long gone by now.
How could they do that to each other since they almost all seem to wear
visible thongs? Aren't they already self-wedgied with those? Some of
the ones wearing thongs are almost as disgusting as plumber
ass-cleavage in obese men.
Gerry
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:05:21 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 4 Jul 2005 12:50:45 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>IMHO the fact that thongs and tube-tops are available in those
>>sizes is evidence that a sgnificant part of the clothing industry
>>is controlled by gay men intent on revenging past discrimination
>>by straight men.
>
>
>Or that the same clothing is being worn by cross dressing men, hence
>the larger sizes. <G>
>
>Barry
a three hunnert pound guy in a miniskirt and tube top?
AAAAAUUUUUUUGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
>> Related aside. Mentioned that I was thinking of adding a section of
>> lower counter for kneading dough. Was told that the standard height
>> works just fine and they have never seen such a thing, Very
>> authoritatively told, I might add.
>>
> I have seen several baking centers in custom kitchens. All the owners
> raved about them. One feature in two of them is a marble countertop.
> Apparently marble is alway cool and perfect for kneading dough.
>
> Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
My grandmother had a flour bin as one "drawer" under her counter. It was as
wide as a normal drawer, but at least twice as tall. It tilted out on some
sort of hinge at the bottom. The flour was right there where you needed it,
lots of it, not stashed away on the floor of the pantry. When I get around
to doing my own cabinets, there's definitely going to be one of those in
them.
And the marble countertop would be good for making pasta; I always leave
that dish for the winter. I like the idea of having the top at a lower
level. Anyone out there have some pictures of such a kneading station?
- Owen -
Your landlord buys these cabinets. He ordered one of those "get
rich quick by becoming a slum lord" programs on cable tv and is buying
low and renting high.
Just kidding.....or at least I hope it's not your landlord.
Robert
Owen Lawrence wrote:
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
> guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
Here's a quick, down and dirty fix. Don't go to Home Depot. If you
are held at gunpoint and forced in, avert your eyes.
Just remember, no one is forcing anyone to buy these terrible products.
They buy it out of ignorance or laziness.
Or maybe it is all they can afford. Or maybe it suits their purpose.
I think they should sell a Krenov style cabinet and then the
enlightened ones can buy those. I am sure that they could sell enough
to keep HD et. al. in business, aren't you? Then the great
unwashed/unsuspecting/enenlightned can go suck eggs looking for their
purpose built affordable cabinets.
BTW, you should try pulling one of those plastic corners apart, when it
has been installed properly.
Robert
Robert
Owen Lawrence wrote:
>
> "If you can't afford to buy it once, you certainly can't afford to buy
> it twice."
>
Actually, many thousands of people can stretch to buy the cheap item
once, but can never come close to three times the price (or more) for
the top quality item. In a decade, they can probably afford another, by
continuing to stretch.
And an astonishing number of people remodel kitchens, including
cabinets, well inside the 10 year mark. One of my maternal aunts used
to insist on new appliances every five years, which sometimes made my
mother remark that she wished we were closer than 1500 miles, as the
old ones were always just fine.
>>So that's the kind of people who buy this stuff....people who have
absolutely no contact with reality<<
WOW!!!
So the only folks that shop at big volume low price places are lazy ass
slackers that belong to unions and vote the democratic ticket? You
aren't related to Howard Dean are you? Talk about out of touch with
reality...
Robert
A few years back, my wife and I completely remodeled our kitchen. All
of the materials came from Home Depot. Our cabinets are all fine
quality plywood with solid wood frame and panel doors. They were built
in NC. I installed them myself and I am very happy with them.
I noticed during another remodeling job that Home Depot had particle
board bathroom vanities for sale. Right next to them were the good
quality plywood vanities that I bought.
I like the fact that HD stocks a range of different products and I can
choose fine quality at a reasonable price or el cheapo junk at a much
lower price. There have been times in my life when I would have been
happy to find cheap junk, because that is all I could afford.
I also like the fact that they stock power tools that range from
Chinese junk to Taiwanese made moderately priced imports, through fine
quality American and European made tools.
Owen Lawrence wrote:
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
> guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
>Who conceives of these things?!
Its a group known as the New World Order. We meet by teleconference
once a month and think up new ways to irritate people. Ever heard of
Crazy Frog?
The kitchen cabinet thing is ancient, four five years at least. But
some of the best jokes are the long running ones. Have you noticed the
way that teenage girls now run around in jeans and tops that leave a
half inch gap at the midriff? That is one of our all time favourites.
Its getting to the point where it is impossible for women to buy real
clothes, thats why you see so many going round with an inch of flesh
exposed in the middle of January with snow on the ground.
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
>
> ... Have you noticed the
> way that teenage girls now run around in jeans and tops that leave a
> half inch gap at the midriff? That is one of our all time favourites.
> Its getting to the point where it is impossible for women to buy real
> clothes, thats why you see so many going round with an inch of flesh
> exposed in the middle of January with snow on the ground.
If girls gave each other wedgies that style would be long gone by now.
--
FF
(Keeping my hands to myself)
G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > If girls gave each other wedgies that style would be long gone by now.
>
> How could they do that to each other since they almost all seem to wear
> visible thongs?
Uh, umm, errr, really now.
--
FF
Prometheus wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:00:45 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> ... Seriously, there should be an application process for
> spandex tube-tops and visable thongs. Just got some new neighbors,
> and the first look I got at one of them nearly made me tear my own
> eyes out- lady musta been 300 lbs, ...
IMHO the fact that thongs and tube-tops are available in those
sizes is evidence that a sgnificant part of the clothing industry
is controlled by gay men intent on revenging past discrimination
by straight men.
--
FF
Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Renata" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > There was just an article in the WashPost that said a separate room
> > that functions strictly as a library in a house is going by the
> > wayside. Now we have the explanation as to why - bad feng shui.
> >
> > From another article - according to Vedic design it's best if one's
> > head faces east when sleeping. According to feng shui it's bad to
> > have one's head under a window. A dilemma. To place my bed such that
> > the headboard faces east, it must be under the window. What to do,
> > what to do...
> >
> Buy a book on feng shui. Paint a target on it. Bring it to the local firing
> range. Use this far eastern crap manual as a target.
>
> Then hang the shot up feng shui manual in an appropriate place in the room.
>
> Gauranteed to balace out any bad feng shui in the room!
You got it. My bed faces south, and the head is under a window. I
enclosed a room to make a library about 12 years ago. We spend more
time there than anywhere but my office or the bedroom.
By the way, WTF is feng shui? Sounds like a bad attach of intestinal
gas.
jo4hn wrote:
> Dave in Fairfax wrote:
>
> > Lee Michaels wrote
> >
> >>>Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
> >
> >
> > Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > snippage
> >
> >>Many of us.
> >>the best
> >>meals are still made from scratch.
> >
> >
> > Last night I made fajitas with pico de gallo, the night before pulled
> > pork. My daughter will only eat spaghetti at one restaurant because no
> > one else's is as good as my one. I haven't found a restaurant that
> > makes pico de gallo better, or even close to, what I make. I suspect
> > that many of us make food far better than you can get elsewhere,
> > certainly better than any store-bought @$#%*.
> >
> > Dave in Fairfax
>
> Pico de gallo made in Virginia!!? Humph. Nothing made east of Alto
> Kaleefornia can be any good. ;-)
> Toto's in Running Springs is damn good,
> jo4hn
I always get a small kick out of the ads that complain about some kind
of salsa picante being made in NYC, as if it's not Latino enough.
Someone should check out Puerto Rican and Cuban cooking. A Cubano and
his girlfriend lived downstairs from me back in the late '60s, and some
of the things he cooked would make your eyes water just from the aroma!
In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>On 11-Jul-2005, Renata <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There was just an article in the WashPost that said a
>> separate room that functions strictly as a library in a
>> house is going
>> by the
>> wayside. Now we have the explanation as to why - bad feng
>> shui.
>>
>> From another article - according to Vedic design it's best
>> if one's head faces east when sleeping. According to feng
>> shui
>> it's bad to have one's head under a window. A dilemma.
>> To place my
>> bed such that the headboard faces east, it must be under
>> the window.
>> What to do, what to do...
>>
>> Renata
>
>You'll enjoy this little snippet then. San Diego North
>County. I'm out on the patio of house I was renting
>grabbing some sun and reading and two women show up in my
>neighbor's back yard. It's really more of a communal strip
>of grass at the back of the 4 condo unit.
>
>They have coat hangers in their hands that have been cut and
>bent into L's and they are pacing back and forth along her
>portion of the grass in an orderly manner. I'm thinking
>"California..." but curiosity gets the better of me and I
>ask what they are doing.
>
>Oh and this lady just can't wait to explain her work. She
>comes over all excited and says that they are mapping the
>energy fields of my neighbor's yard and house. Both
>positive and negative fields. You apparently don't want
>negative energy fields in your kitchen and you definitely
>don't want them in your bedroom. She related this recent
>horror story where she found that a woman's pillow was right
>at a major crossing of negative energy field lines! OMG!
>
>I then asked her what they could do when they found bad
>field lines. And by God the energy field line people have
>come up with a little blivit that diverts field lines to
>where you need them to go. American engineering at it's
>finest.
>
>Holding back my tongue I noted that I had no idea energy
>field manipulation technology had progressed so far and went
>back to my reading. They continued to map the neighbor's
>yard.
>
>This is a true story btw. Adventures of an transplanted
>east coaster.... Saying the whole state is full of nuts and
>flakes it a bit of an exaggeration... but not by much.
>
At least you resisted the temptation to mention that black
helicopter that flies over the neighborhood every few days,
running their positronic ion-beam generator, which randomly
scrambles the energy field lines -- effects that last for
a week or more.
That in _this_ neighborhood, it is necessary to do such mappings
at least twice a week, for a month or more, to get an 'average'
set of readings. And that, if they do get the same readings on
two successive runs, that they must have been doing it *when* the
positronic beam generator was overhead -- that their "instruments"
have been permanently contaminated by that exposure, and must be
_immediately_ discarded and replaced.
<*snicker*>
FWIW -
"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There was just an article in the WashPost that said a separate room
> that functions strictly as a library in a house is going by the
> wayside. . . . SNIP
I wonder if there is a direct correlation to the amount of READING {and
commensurate COMPREHENSION] in our current society? I'm sure you all have
seen or received an e-mail with no capitalization or punctuation. Plus
ridiculous spelling errors. {MINE stinks . . but I care enough to touch a
few keys and use the 'Spellchecker' }.
This is not just about stupid or 'ignorant' people. My BIL works for a stock
brokerage and is an opera & music 'aficionado'. Several months ago he asked
me to show him my computer set-up {a rather basic configuration . . . at
about 10 years old, it still 'does' everything I need}. After about 15
minutes, his soon-to-be wife came into the 12 x 15 room that is 'my office'
& 'our library'. {BEFORE we even bought this house - maybe 30 years ago - we
knew this room would be OUR library. One of my first 'home projects' was to
put up 12in deep, floor-to-ceiling bookshelves on 1-1/2 walls. The
'remainder' of the space is for the desk, computer & supplies, and file
cabinets.} This woman looked around with, literally, wide-eyed disbelief.
"WOW - look at all the BOOKS !!". How . ., Why . ., What . ., etc. Not even
thinking, I told her these were almost all mine - pointing out 'sections' on
boatbuilding, woodworking, engineering, history, magazine files, etc.
"Joanne's desk & her medical books are in the next room, and we probably
donate about a third as many to the library". Both good people - yet
although they don't have a library card between them, in their one-bedroom
apartment they DO HAVE a 42inch TV, a 'state-of-the-art sound system, 100's
of hours of CD's & DVD's, and now an up-to-the-minute, including Internet
Cable, computer system !!
Amazing . . .
Regards & Thanks,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{and 'Certified Curmudgeon' ?? }
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:45:13 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>Hmmm.... Come to Wisconsin, and attend a county fair. Bet you'll
>>change that tune pretty quick! :)
>
> So ya'll put thongs on the cows and pigs up there in WI? Guess that
>adds to the romance, eh?
>
> GD&R :-)
Sometimes it's hard to tell :P
On 1 Jul 2005 07:47:23 -0700, "Phillip Hallam-Baker"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>Who conceives of these things?!
>
>Its a group known as the New World Order.
A.K.A. "The Cabal"...
Barry
In article <[email protected]>, Owen Lawrence
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
> guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
>
>
Hi Owen,
Most here on the wreck are spoiled - we expect good to
excellent construction in general.
I bought a vanity/sink combo at HD a few months ago
for a condo renovation. It was $99 for both items in
a single box.
I would never buy this for myself, but the market
is the market. It will last 10+ years. What more
could you want?
There is a place/price for most anything that's for
sale out there.
Me? I like to build my stuff out of real wood and use
the best stuff I can find.
I would bet that it's hard making a living doing that.
(I'm a retired hobbyist).
Lou
Like someone said here a while back:
"good, fast, cheap - pick any two"
I guess I should chip in here. I recently bought kitchen cabinets from the
despot. I can't say that everything went smoothly but the cabinets
themselves are gorgeous. Hardwood doors and face frames, laminated high
density chipboard sides and back, tongue and groove joinery with glue, no
fasteners. They aren't the highest end you can obtain but they are plenty
high quality in this day and age.
And they have those triangles too.
One key reason I think they use those things is that the cabinets get beat
up pretty good during shipping. If they are racked too hard the tongues
will snap off and the cabinet will be ruined. Those triangles keep the
racking from getting too severe. I of course could be wrong. Note that
this is a load that has no relation to the load that the cabinet will
experience during it's normal use.
At any rate just because the despot happens to sell bottom of the line items
doesn't mean that you can't get better quality there. You may have to
special order it.
I think it's fairly mean of the OP to imply that those that can't afford the
highest quality should go without anything at all. Why shouldn't I have a
functional, if cheap, kitchen, just because I can't afford to hire Tage Frid
to custom build me some cabinets?
Having said all that I still don't really care for the despot. They have
too many customers for their folks to properly and carefully deal with and
thus stuff is always falling through the cracks with them. Nevertheless
OP's post and other subsequent ranting replies just aren't true.
ml
On 1 Jul 2005 07:47:23 -0700, Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Who conceives of these things?!
>
> Its a group known as the New World Order. We meet by teleconference
> once a month and think up new ways to irritate people. Ever heard of
> Crazy Frog?
There is no New World Order. By the way, you've got treats for next
month's meeting, I was asked to remind you.
> The kitchen cabinet thing is ancient, four five years at least. But
> some of the best jokes are the long running ones. Have you noticed the
> way that teenage girls now run around in jeans and tops that leave a
> half inch gap at the midriff? That is one of our all time favourites.
Me, I liked the whole "Badger badger badger mushroom mushroom" meme that
that one guy came up with as a joke project.
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:19:47 GMT, Ba r r y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1 Jul 2005 07:47:23 -0700, "Phillip Hallam-Baker"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>Who conceives of these things?!
>>
>>Its a group known as the New World Order.
>
> A.K.A. "The Cabal"...
There Is No Cabal.
On 2005-07-15, Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
> I always get a small kick out of the ads that complain about some kind
> of salsa picante being made in NYC, as if it's not Latino enough.
> Someone should check out Puerto Rican and Cuban cooking. A Cubano and
> his girlfriend lived downstairs from me back in the late '60s, and some
> of the things he cooked would make your eyes water just from the aroma!
Habanero means a chile from Havana. For Cuban food you want to go to
Miami; around here ( 30 miles north of NYC ) we get lots of Colombian
and Mexican people. I bless them for bringing in low cost high quality
produce but watching them work gives me hives.
What is it about Latins that makes safety equipment something for girlie-men?
There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up my
street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a cubic
yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then they put
up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All with no safety
glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing protection or face shields.
--
I can find no modern furniture that is as well designed and emotionally
satisfying as that made by the Arts and Crafts movement in the early years
of the last century.
Phillip Hallam-Baker" wrote:
> >Its a group known as the New World Order.
Ba r r y wrote:
> A.K.A. "The Cabal"...
Never confuse the CABAL with The New World Order. The CABAL, if it
existed, would be made up of decent people...
Dave in Fairfax
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"G.E.R.R.Y." wrote:
> How could they do that to each other since they almost all seem to wear
> visible thongs? Aren't they already self-wedgied with those? Some of
> the ones wearing thongs are almost as disgusting as plumber
> ass-cleavage in obese men.
Lemme see, thongs, ass-cleavage in obese men. Nope, not even close.
%-)
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
> Think Roseanne Barr or Rosie O'Donnell. Still want to stick to that
> comment? ;-(
OK, I may have been blocking unconciously. Woof. But on a pecentage
basis, I'll stand just behind my statement. %-)
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Prometheus wrote:
> Hmmm.... Come to Wisconsin, and attend a county fair. Bet you'll
> change that tune pretty quick! :)
I believe I covered that earlier in the thread, but what the hey. I
grew up not far from you, MI and IN. I've seen big girls with not a lot
on, visit the neighborhood sauna or go skinny dipping. Given my
druthers, I'd rather be lookin' at the backside of the ladies. But hey,
that's just me. It's a free country, more or less, if you wanta look at
the guys, I won't tell. %-) But I'm still gonna watch the ladies.
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Lee Michaels wrote:
> I have seen several baking centers in custom kitchens. All the owners raved
> about them. One feature in two of them is a marble countertop. Apparently
> marble is alway cool and perfect for kneading dough.
> Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
You missed the discussion of rolling pins over on RCW. My point exactly
on the granite. Pie crusts HAVE to stay cold or they won't come out
flakey.
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Lee Michaels wrote
> > Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
snippage
> Many of us.
> the best
> meals are still made from scratch.
Last night I made fajitas with pico de gallo, the night before pulled
pork. My daughter will only eat spaghetti at one restaurant because no
one else's is as good as my one. I haven't found a restaurant that
makes pico de gallo better, or even close to, what I make. I suspect
that many of us make food far better than you can get elsewhere,
certainly better than any store-bought @$#%*.
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jo4hn wrote:
> Pico de gallo made in Virginia!!? Humph. Nothing made east of Alto
> Kaleefornia can be any good. ;-)
I grew up in the midwest, 'member? My buddy was 1/2 Chicano. His Mom
taught me a fair amount of cooking by watching. Mine's better than any
of the local Mexican/Latino restaurants, and we have LOtS of S/C
Americans here as well as a lot of Mexicans (NORTH Americans). 'Sides,
who wants alfalfa sprouts rather than cilantro in their pico de gallo.
%-)
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jo4hn wrote:
>
> Swingman wrote:
>
> > "Ed Clarke" wrote in message
> >
> >
> >>There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up my
> >>street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a cubic
> >>yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then they put
> >>up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All with no safety
> >>glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing protection or face shields.
> >
> >
> > Why the hell worry when the taxpayers will pay for your medical care at the
> > local emergency room?
> >
> Don't go there, Swingman. That is an all too common attitude that I see
> in supposed "Christian values" people. Take the time to become
> acquainted with some of these "swarthy" folk. You may change your tune.
Well, sometime I'll tell you some stories of experiences we're having at
the local Care Center for them...maybe your tune might change. :(
Charlie Self wrote:
> I always get a small kick out of the ads that complain about some kind
> of salsa picante being made in NYC, as if it's not Latino enough.
> Someone should check out Puerto Rican and Cuban cooking. A Cubano and
> his girlfriend lived downstairs from me back in the late '60s, and some
> of the things he cooked would make your eyes water just from the aroma!
The company that ran that ad makes its stuff in NJ, really. What a
hoot. Get a couple a ropes.
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Patriarch wrote:
snip
> I think that it's at least partly the way they learned. Watching my uncles
> work, when I was a kid, scared the crap out of me. Thoughts on acceptable
> risk have changed a bit over the years. Ask an old farmer.
Exactly. When was the last time you saw a kid fall under a disker.
Things have changed a lot.
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> Hey, it gives you a cold nose, a shiny coat, and a well greased colon.
> What more do you need?
Menudo.
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:01:42 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]> wrote:
>"G.E.R.R.Y." wrote:
>> How could they do that to each other since they almost all seem to wear
>> visible thongs? Aren't they already self-wedgied with those? Some of
>> the ones wearing thongs are almost as disgusting as plumber
>> ass-cleavage in obese men.
>
>Lemme see, thongs, ass-cleavage in obese men. Nope, not even close.
>%-)
>
Think Roseanne Barr or Rosie O'Donnell. Still want to stick to that
comment? ;-(
>Dave in Fairfax
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There was just an article in the WashPost that said a separate room
that functions strictly as a library in a house is going by the
wayside. Now we have the explanation as to why - bad feng shui.
From another article - according to Vedic design it's best if one's
head faces east when sleeping. According to feng shui it's bad to
have one's head under a window. A dilemma. To place my bed such that
the headboard faces east, it must be under the window. What to do,
what to do...
Renata
On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:48:09 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>My previous house had a large family room and a "formal" living room,
>the latter of which was never used. Maggy saw a photo of C.B.DeMille's
>library so I rebuilt it into a tudor style library with a vaulted
>ceiling, "walnut" bookcases, and the dark trim. We sold it to a Chinese
>gentleman who said the bookcases were bad feng shui. I volunteered to
>remove them free of charge. I now have two rooms of bookcases in my new
>house. Sometimes you win.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:48:09 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
snip
>>
>[snip]
>My previous house had a large family room and a "formal" living room,
>the latter of which was never used. Maggy saw a photo of C.B.DeMille's
>library so I rebuilt it into a tudor style library with a vaulted
>ceiling, "walnut" bookcases, and the dark trim. We sold it to a Chinese
>gentleman who said the bookcases were bad feng shui. I volunteered to
>remove them free of charge. I now have two rooms of bookcases in my new
>house. Sometimes you win.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
John,
That was mighty thoughtful of you to take on all of that bad feng shui so
your buyer didn't have to deal with it. What a guy! :-)
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On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:59:12 -0500, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:
-snip-
>How long do you plan on staying there? It's your house, after all.
>If you're just looking for a quick turnaround, go for the barf- most
>people don't know the difference and wouldn't care if you explained it
>to them. If you're going to stay there a while, get what you like.
>As I said above, mine are custom, with ply doors, and I'm really quite
>pleased with them. They're not fancy by design, but the maple veneer
>on the ply was chosen for figure (or by some terribly odd accident) so
>they don't need any frills to look great, and they'll go with
>anything.
>
How long I'm going to be there is up in the air, but I've decided to
go ahead and build 'em - the heck with future owners' appreciation.
Looking for interesting ideas for doors (probably in a contemporary
theme; I really like the cathedral style raised panel, but still not
sure I'm going to go to THAT much trouble).
Related aside. Mentioned that I was thinking of adding a section of
lower counter for kneading dough. Was told that the standard height
works just fine and they have never seen such a thing, Very
authoritatively told, I might add.
See, there's far too many of those type around.
Nevertheless, for however long it will be, it WILL be my kitchen so
I'll do it my way.
Thanx
Renata
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:15:10 GMT, the opaque Dave in Fairfax
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>jo4hn wrote:
>> Pico de gallo made in Virginia!!? Humph. Nothing made east of Alto
>> Kaleefornia can be any good. ;-)
>
>I grew up in the midwest, 'member? My buddy was 1/2 Chicano. His Mom
Huh? 1/4 Mexican with a racist attitude nastier than that of either
race? (Chicanos in LoCal were not to be messed with, but the Latinos
who called themselves American, Hispanic, Mexican, or Mexican/American
were all great folks...'cept when they BBQed upwind from me.)
>taught me a fair amount of cooking by watching. Mine's better than any
I learned a lot of good Mexican cooking while living in CA and made a
chorizo burrito for breakfast the other day. (Like sausage, don't ask
what's used to make it. ;)
>of the local Mexican/Latino restaurants, and we have LOtS of S/C
>Americans here as well as a lot of Mexicans (NORTH Americans). 'Sides,
>who wants alfalfa sprouts rather than cilantro in their pico de gallo.
Ewwwwwww! (While I like sprouts, cilantro is my favorite Mexican
spice.)
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Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:19:47 GMT, Ba r r y <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 1 Jul 2005 07:47:23 -0700, "Phillip Hallam-Baker"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Who conceives of these things?!
>>>
>>>Its a group known as the New World Order.
>>
>>A.K.A. "The Cabal"...
>
>
> There Is No Cabal.
>
What about Comcast?
If you can't get the cabal, go with DishTV of DirecTV
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:57:33 -0700, the opaque Fly-by-Night CC
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> I learned a lot of good Mexican cooking while living in CA and made a
>> chorizo burrito for breakfast the other day. (Like sausage, don't ask
>> what's used to make it. ;)
>
>Mmmmmmm. Raisin tamales.
And if you don't have raisins, find some old rat droppings?
(ewwww) Her recipe doesn't sound too enticing to me. Raisins' are
sweet, and I don't like sweet foods. That's for dessert, not dinner.
>In my youngest days we had a Mexican woman come to our house, in
>Cottonwood, AZ, once a week to help my Mom with the housework. This
>lady, Lily, became much more like a third grandmother to my sister,
>brother and me. She made us raisin tamales as special treats. (Whenever
>I see a corn husk, the texture and smell bring back those tamales.) Her
>bean burritos were fantastic - handmade tortillas and home cooked beans.
I adore tamales. Chicken or beef, I don't eat pork (by choice) and can
no longer eat chiles (dad blasted food allergies.)
>Lily's retired son lived up here in Oregon and around the early '90s had
>her moved to a nursing home here to be more close-by. Back around '99,
>my wife and I made a trip to the home for a visit and to introduce our
>brand new daughter to Lily - Lily passed away not too long after that.
>One of these days I've got to try my hand at making Lily's Raisin
>Tamales for my daughter - maybe create a good memory for her and
>something she can pass along to her kids.
If so, do it right. Make traditional beef or chicken tamales, not some
newfangled yuppie-mex raisin stuff, eh? ;)
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On 4 Jul 2005 12:50:45 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>IMHO the fact that thongs and tube-tops are available in those
>sizes is evidence that a sgnificant part of the clothing industry
>is controlled by gay men intent on revenging past discrimination
>by straight men.
Or that the same clothing is being worn by cross dressing men, hence
the larger sizes. <G>
Barry
Larry Jaques wrote:
> I learned a lot of good Mexican cooking while living in CA and made a
> chorizo burrito for breakfast the other day. (Like sausage, don't ask
> what's used to make it. ;)
I like most foods; however, much as I try, Mexican foods will never make
my top 40.
A cuisine built on lard, just doesn't do it for me.
BTW, just to put things in perspective, I consider French, NOT country
French, but French to be very much overpriced and under peckered.
I'll take Italian, Chinese, Greek and don't forget that dynamite coon
ass cuisine from down Louisiana way.
Lew
Lew
Bruce T wrote:
> So here's the deal folks. At the big name places like Home Depot, Lowes,
> Wal-Mart, K-Mart & whatever-Mart, you can buy really inexpensive items
> (including, but not limited to kitchen cabinets). Who buys this stuff?
> Guys like my father-in-law. He loves telling us about how he worked two
> jobs when he was in his twenties--a day job working construction, and a
> night job at the local steel mill. He brags about how he used to go to the
> mill and sleep most of the time. The mill's closed now, of course, but
>snip
People who buy this are people who want to.
People who do not have an insight into how to tell a quality piece of
furniture from a POS.
People who see the price and compare it to another price of a similar
looking piece.
People who want to.
Step out of your shoes and into someone's who is totally ignorant of the
furniture trade and you probably would buy it to.
This same principle applies to other products as well.
Camera's - If know nothing about photography and and don't really care,
just want a snap shot occasionally buy a cheapo camera, otherwise spend
a months pay on one.
Basically who cares who buys what, each to his own, there's plenty to go
around so look after yourself and let the other bloke look after himself.
Gees, something musta touched a nerve in this thread. My soap box is
usually well out of site. :)
all the best
John
Owen,
I can't answer your question but I would guess that the accountants and the
MBA's of the company are the driving force. They won't stock something for
very long if they can't sell so many of them over a certain time period.
I'm sure they have some very specific stocking models that take into account
numerous factors to determine if an item is stocked or not.
Bottom line, if it doesn't sell well - they don't stock it. That means
those cheap cabinets you saw do sell. What that means is if you're looking
for quality, look someplace else cause that doesn't sell very well at the
borg's. Most contractors and DIY fixer-upper's want pricepoint - and could
care less about the quality.
The plastic triangles are used to help keep the sides from racking and are
used to secure the top to the base. A short screw thru the plastic to the
top and it keeps it from sliding around and falling off the edge of the
earth...
Bob S.
"Owen Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
> guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
>
On 1 Jul 2005 21:35:42 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:19:47 GMT, Ba r r y <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1 Jul 2005 07:47:23 -0700, "Phillip Hallam-Baker"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>Who conceives of these things?!
>>>
>>>Its a group known as the New World Order.
>>
>> A.K.A. "The Cabal"...
>
>There Is No Cabal.
At least not during the summer, we voted to take a break.
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"Wes Stewart" wrote in message
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:10:12 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:
>
> >"Larry Jaques"wrote in message
> >
> >> When I moved up here 3 years ago, I brought over 400 books with me.
> >> Since I've been here, I've checked out almost that many from the local
> >> library. I've read about 1/2 of those cover to cover, used another 1/4
> >> for research or data collection, and determined the other 1/4 as not
> >> being worth the time. (When I start chewing on a subject, I get all
> >> the books on that subject from each the library branches sent to the
> >> local branch and then determine their worth.) I have no doubt that I
> >> may have crossed the new fine line during that time and my library
> >> card has an FBI file started on it. <g>
> >>
> >> Let's see, first they limit our freedom of flying, then they take away
> >> the books. What's next in this Brave New World of Shrub's?
> >
> >Too damn bad all that book reading didn't do a thing for either your
> >paranoia, or your inability to resist taking needless political potshots
in
> >a woodworking forum.
>
> Seems to me his was an attempt at wry humor, at least that's my read.
And you haven't been paying attention these past few years, have you?
> And -you're- talking about -books- and -books on cd- in a
> -woodworking- forum.
> Where's the diff?
If you don't/won't/can't _read_ start with the phrase: "needless political
potshots".
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On 1 Jul 2005 07:47:23 -0700, "Phillip Hallam-Baker"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Have you noticed the
>way that teenage girls now run around in jeans and tops that leave a
>half inch gap at the midriff? That is one of our all time favourites.
>Its getting to the point where it is impossible for women to buy real
>clothes, thats why you see so many going round with an inch of flesh
>exposed in the middle of January with snow on the ground.
I don't personally have a problem with that style. Especially if it's
a cutie sitting in front of me in a sports arena. <G>
Barry
Dave in Fairfax wrote:
> Lee Michaels wrote
>
>>>Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
>
>
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> snippage
>
>>Many of us.
>>the best
>>meals are still made from scratch.
>
>
> Last night I made fajitas with pico de gallo, the night before pulled
> pork. My daughter will only eat spaghetti at one restaurant because no
> one else's is as good as my one. I haven't found a restaurant that
> makes pico de gallo better, or even close to, what I make. I suspect
> that many of us make food far better than you can get elsewhere,
> certainly better than any store-bought @$#%*.
>
> Dave in Fairfax
Pico de gallo made in Virginia!!? Humph. Nothing made east of Alto
Kaleefornia can be any good. ;-)
Toto's in Running Springs is damn good,
jo4hn
California had a Bracero program that was tried more than 60 years
ago, no longer around. Work permits for Mexican workers.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:58:13 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>IMO, a guest worker program, as instituted in many European countries, is a
>sensible answer to the dilemma on both sides.
Well....see...they did work. The top only moves around a little
bit.......;-)
Just place some silicon sealant along the top edge (between the underside of
the top and the base) and press it down. After it setup - it won't move.
Should you want to remove the top, slide a putty knife in and slide it along
to cut the sealant.
Bob S.
"Jerry Maple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>>
>> The plastic triangles are used to help keep the sides from racking and
>> are
>> used to secure the top to the base. A short screw thru the plastic to
>> the
>> top and it keeps it from sliding around and falling off the edge of the
>> earth...
>>
>
> --
> Those flimsy plastic triangles haven't done a very good job of securing
> the top to the base at my house. The plastic allowed enough play that
> the corners of the top were free to move around a bit. Eventually that
> movenment allowed the screw heads to break through the plastic web, with
> the result that the corners are now free to move up and down. Gonna
> make a few wooden triangles to replace those corner pieces, see if that
> works any better.
> --
>
> Jerry Maple
> General Dynamics C4 Systems
> Scottsdale, AZ
> --
"jo4hn" wrote in message
> Swingman wrote:
>
> > "Ed Clarke" wrote in message
> >
> >>There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up my
> >>street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a cubic
> >>yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then they put
> >>up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All with no
safety
> >>glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing protection or face
shields.
> >
> >
> > Why the hell worry when the taxpayers will pay for your medical care at
the
> > local emergency room?
> >
> Don't go there, Swingman. That is an all too common attitude that I see
> in supposed "Christian values" people. Take the time to become
> acquainted with some of these "swarthy" folk. You may change your tune.
> grump,
Maybe you don't qualify, but you better fu**ing believe that my tax bill,
along with some blood left on foreign shores, damn well allows me to "go
there".
Not to mention that I have firsthand experience in the matter ... I PAY the
bill!! Just the property taxes on the roof over my family's head would make
_you_ a "grump" about the reality of this well documented issue in this
border state.
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Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Then there is good Thai food (red curry, green curry, yellow curry,
> pad thai, cachew chicken, honey beef, spring rolls).
And if they are really good, lemon grass soup.
> Or, as we had today for lunch, Dim Sum. Shu mai, har gow, chicken's
> feet (delish), turnip cakes with bbq pork bits, bbq pork buns,
> sticky rice wrapped in lotus leaf, tripe, octopus, sharks-fin dumplings,
> scallop dumplings und so weiter..
Here in SoCal, good dim sum is fairly easy to find, especially in the
Chinese neighborhoods.
Just bring your wallet and plan on spending enough time to enjoy it.
IMHO, when you have good dim sum, who needs greasy Mexican?
Lew
>
> You don't know what your missing!
>
> scott
"John Emmons" wrote in message
> How do any of you happen to know that the "swarthy" workers in question
> would be availing themselves of tax payer funded health care if they got
> hurt? Hell, they might even be, gasp, tax payers themselves.
Sure ... and that's why the federal government (your taxes) recently agreed
to pay $1 billion to border states for this very reason?
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/10/heallth.illegal.ap/
(and BTW, it's CNN, far removed from some neo-con website!)
To deny that there is a crisis in this sector of our economy, caused by
illegal immigration, is downright foolish and shows total ignorance of
reality.
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[email protected] wrote:
<SNIP>
>
>
>
>
> a three hunnert pound guy in a miniskirt and tube top?
>
>
>
> AAAAAUUUUUUUGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Thank God I haven't had breakfast yet. That visual would make me lose
it for sure. As it is my appetite is lost.
Glen
Renata wrote:
> Making a profit isn't a problem. I'd guess 2 months into the deal I
> could already sell it for more than I paid, enough to even recover my
> closing costs. Been to DC area lately?
>
> Part of the issue is my putting in a whole lot of effort (that went
> way beyond kitchen cabinets) only to find that folks don't know the
> difference.
>
> Yes, I've enjoyed it, but...
>
> as to placing my mark - what mark if the next owner is gonna tear
> everything out to put some nice Ikea $shit?
>
> I guess since this isn't my forever house (I hope) and maybe not even
> my domicile for more than a few years, the personal enjoyment aspect
> has to be balanced with the level of work and ensuing owner's
> potential appreciation to make it worthwhile to go thru with the
> effort.
>
> Renata
>
[snip]
My previous house had a large family room and a "formal" living room,
the latter of which was never used. Maggy saw a photo of C.B.DeMille's
library so I rebuilt it into a tudor style library with a vaulted
ceiling, "walnut" bookcases, and the dark trim. We sold it to a Chinese
gentleman who said the bookcases were bad feng shui. I volunteered to
remove them free of charge. I now have two rooms of bookcases in my new
house. Sometimes you win.
mahalo,
jo4hn
"Ron Magen" wrote in message
> "WOW - look at all the BOOKS !!". How . ., Why . ., What . ., etc. Not
even
> thinking, I told her these were almost all mine - pointing out 'sections'
on
> boatbuilding, woodworking, engineering, history, magazine files, etc.
> "Joanne's desk & her medical books are in the next room, and we probably
> donate about a third as many to the library". Both good people - yet
> although they don't have a library card between them, in their one-bedroom
> apartment they DO HAVE a 42inch TV, a 'state-of-the-art sound system,
100's
> of hours of CD's & DVD's, and now an up-to-the-minute, including Internet
> Cable, computer system !!
I put a foot firmly in both worlds about ten years ago. After years of
wrestling with shelf space and carting hundreds of books from one house to
another, I now have about 7,000 titles ... and all but about 50 of them are
on two DVD's.
My eBook holds about 50 titles at a time, I don't need a box to cart all of
them on a trip, or a light to read them in bed, and it turns itself off in
10 minutes when I fall asleep and haven't turned a page. While I still have
a few treasured books around, and love a library, I realized then that it
was the actual reading, rather than the storing and carting around, that I
preferred.
... and with a leather case on the eBook, ALL my volumes are leather bound.
;)
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loutent says...
> Most here on the wreck are spoiled - we expect good to
> excellent construction in general.
>
> I bought a vanity/sink combo at HD a few months ago
> for a condo renovation. It was $99 for both items in
> a single box.
>
> I would never buy this for myself, but the market
> is the market. It will last 10+ years. What more
> could you want?
Would they stand up to a water mishap like leaky seals or a minor flood?
If not, then they are a poor purchase. You installed it yourself I
take it? What about cost of installation, if the little old lady who
buys it has to replace it? What about the headaches of loss of use,
clean-up or whatever when it does fail? Bedsides, this is America. We
can afford to buy better things once in a while. A good quality
vanity/sink wouldn't put a dent in the beer or spoil-the-grandkids
budget.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> The plastic triangles are used to help keep the sides from racking and are
> used to secure the top to the base. A short screw thru the plastic to the
> top and it keeps it from sliding around and falling off the edge of the
> earth...
>
--
Those flimsy plastic triangles haven't done a very good job of securing
the top to the base at my house. The plastic allowed enough play that
the corners of the top were free to move around a bit. Eventually that
movenment allowed the screw heads to break through the plastic web, with
the result that the corners are now free to move up and down. Gonna
make a few wooden triangles to replace those corner pieces, see if that
works any better.
--
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General Dynamics C4 Systems
Scottsdale, AZ
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In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> says...
> When I moved up here 3 years ago, I brought over 400 books with me.
> Since I've been here, I've checked out almost that many from the local
> library.
>
Sounds like us. Last time I looked we had over 1000 books, most of them
non-fiction. And we visit our local church^B^B^B^B^B public library
every week :-).
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"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:44:51 -0400, the opaque Robatoy
> <[email protected]> spake:
>
> >I never knew that one has to be a lazy-ass union member to vote democrat.
> >So half of all Americans are lazy-ass unionized democrats?
> >
> >I'm glad you have cleared that up for me, Robert.
>
> Yeah, and the other half are lazy-assed non-union repugnicans.
>
> There are a few of us smart-assed, anti-union, small-gov't, anti-war,
> pro-freedom, clear-headed libertarians around, too.
That might as well vote for Astro the dog. It would be nice to get someone
in ofice that wasn't from the Big Two but I doubt I'll ever see it.
"Philip Lewis" wrote in message
> "Swingman" writes:
> >I put a foot firmly in both worlds about ten years ago. After years of
> >wrestling with shelf space and carting hundreds of books from one house
to
> >another, I now have about 7,000 titles ... and all but about 50 of them
are
> >on two DVD's.
>
> Did you convert your paper copies to the media, or did you aquire all
> new books? If the former, how did you scan everything?
It's a long, sad story ... when they were readily available, before
corporate greed came to the forefront and screwed the technology, and
therefore the concept itself, you could buy most any of the top ten titles
in any category on Amazon, Powells, or Barnes and Nobles.
There are still hundreds of thousands of the finest titles in English
literature available at Project Gutenberg (http://promo.net/pg/) for
free... more than you can read in a lifetime.
I pretty well stick to 19th century English authors for recreational reading
... anything else I buy in hard cover, or check out at the library.
> Does the ebook handle inline diagrams/pictures?
Some eBook readers do/did ... at least before corporate greed entered the
picture. (NPI).
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"Ed Clarke" wrote in message
> There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up my
> street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a cubic
> yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then they put
> up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All with no safety
> glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing protection or face shields.
Why the hell worry when the taxpayers will pay for your medical care at the
local emergency room?
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Swingman wrote:
> "Ed Clarke" wrote in message
>
>
>>There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up my
>>street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a cubic
>>yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then they put
>>up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All with no safety
>>glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing protection or face shields.
>
>
> Why the hell worry when the taxpayers will pay for your medical care at the
> local emergency room?
>
Don't go there, Swingman. That is an all too common attitude that I see
in supposed "Christian values" people. Take the time to become
acquainted with some of these "swarthy" folk. You may change your tune.
grump,
j4
"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
> I have seen several baking centers in custom kitchens. All the owners
> raved about them. One feature in two of them is a marble countertop.
> Apparently marble is alway cool and perfect for kneading dough.
>
> Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
Many of us.
Just because the kitchen has all the latest gadgets on display does not mean
the owner uses more than canned or frozen meals though. Lots are just for
show.
Come to my house for lasagna sometime. The noodles are made that morning.
The sauce is made from tomatoes every August/September, the ground meat may
be from our pig (have not had one for a few years though). some of the herbs
are home grown. The cheese is store bought though.
There has not been a boxed cake mix in the house in 30 years.
Sure, we buy a lot of frozen veggies, and we don't mill flour, but the best
meals are still made from scratch.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> This is a true story btw. Adventures of an transplanted
> east coaster.... Saying the whole state is full of nuts and
> flakes it a bit of an exaggeration... but not by much.
Hah! If it was me, I'd have fed their story a bit with some suggestion that
hole in the ozone layer were in fact amplifying the negative energy fields.
"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote
> There was just an article in the WashPost that said a separate room
> that functions strictly as a library in a house is going by the
> wayside. Now we have the explanation as to why - bad feng shui.
>
> From another article - according to Vedic design it's best if one's
> head faces east when sleeping. According to feng shui it's bad to
> have one's head under a window. A dilemma. To place my bed such that
> the headboard faces east, it must be under the window. What to do,
> what to do...
>
Buy a book on feng shui. Paint a target on it. Bring it to the local firing
range. Use this far eastern crap manual as a target.
Then hang the shot up feng shui manual in an appropriate place in the room.
Gauranteed to balace out any bad feng shui in the room!!
"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Buy a book on feng shui. Paint a target on it. Bring it to the local
> firing range. Use this far eastern crap manual as a target.
>
> Then hang the shot up feng shui manual in an appropriate place in the
> room.
>
> Gauranteed to balace out any bad feng shui in the room!!
>
And piss off my good Chinese neighbors? The ones who profess not to hear
the power tools running at all hours? I don't think so!
If they are more comfortable with this model of the universe, good for
them. There are many things, seen and unseen, that defy my understanding.
Patriarch
Renata <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
>
> Nevertheless, for however long it will be, it WILL be my kitchen so
> I'll do it my way.
>
An attitude with which I whole heartedly concur! Do it YOUR way!
Nobody knows who THEY are, or will be, whenever, anyhow.
Patriarch
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Ed Clarke" wrote in message
>
>> There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up
>> my street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a
>> cubic yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then
>> they put up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All
>> with no safety glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing
>> protection or face shields.
>
> Why the hell worry when the taxpayers will pay for your medical care
> at the local emergency room?
>
Because it still hurts? Because you won't be able to work if you're all
bandaged up?
I think that it's at least partly the way they learned. Watching my uncles
work, when I was a kid, scared the crap out of me. Thoughts on acceptable
risk have changed a bit over the years. Ask an old farmer.
Patriarch
Swingman wrote:
> "John Emmons" wrote in message
>
>
>>How do any of you happen to know that the "swarthy" workers in question
>>would be availing themselves of tax payer funded health care if they got
>>hurt? Hell, they might even be, gasp, tax payers themselves.
>
>
> Sure ... and that's why the federal government (your taxes) recently agreed
> to pay $1 billion to border states for this very reason?
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/10/heallth.illegal.ap/
>
> (and BTW, it's CNN, far removed from some neo-con website!)
>
> To deny that there is a crisis in this sector of our economy, caused by
> illegal immigration, is downright foolish and shows total ignorance of
> reality.
>
Do you really want to end illegal aliens/cheap labor? Arrest/try/fine
those that hire them. Haven't seen any elected official seriously
propose that. Or maybe there's another way? GWB gave it some thought
(?) a few years ago. Anything happened since? Maybe the vigilance
committees are the answer?
hoping for some rational ideas,
jo4hn
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> writes:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>
>> I learned a lot of good Mexican cooking while living in CA and made a
>> chorizo burrito for breakfast the other day. (Like sausage, don't ask
>> what's used to make it. ;)
>
>
>I like most foods; however, much as I try, Mexican foods will never make
>my top 40.
>
>A cuisine built on lard, just doesn't do it for me.
Ah, you've never had a taco de chivo, or lengua burrito, then. Add
an agua fresca (horchata (spelling horiblus)). Or Biria de chivo
(close enough to a stones album title).
Yum.
Then there is good Thai food (red curry, green curry, yellow curry,
pad thai, cachew chicken, honey beef, spring rolls).
Or, as we had today for lunch, Dim Sum. Shu mai, har gow, chicken's
feet (delish), turnip cakes with bbq pork bits, bbq pork buns,
sticky rice wrapped in lotus leaf, tripe, octopus, sharks-fin dumplings,
scallop dumplings und so weiter..
You don't know what your missing!
scott
"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
> Yeah, a 40 year old yuppie recipe! They were desert - remember I was 2
> to 5 years old at the time and they were a special treat. I do like
> shredded beef or chicken but being a traditionalist prefer pork tamales.
> One or two of those and a chile relleno - oh yeah BABY! Chorizo and eggs
> is another favorite - get the ol' sinuses moving in the A.M . and nary a
> problem all day.
There's this little adobe hut with a dirt floor and a "cafe" sign outside in
a little crossroads town in Coahuila about 150 miles south of Piedras Negras
....
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>> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this
>> kitchen
>> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
>> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place.
>> I
>> guess they were there for strength.
>>
>> Who conceives of these things?!
>>
>> - Owen -
>>
>>
> Hi Owen,
>
> Most here on the wreck are spoiled - we expect good to
> excellent construction in general.
>
> I bought a vanity/sink combo at HD a few months ago
> for a condo renovation. It was $99 for both items in
> a single box.
>
> I would never buy this for myself, but the market
> is the market. It will last 10+ years. What more
> could you want?
Since I expect to last more than 10 years, I want my stuff to last more than
10 years. In fact, I want my stuff to last at least as long as my children
last. That's what I want. What do I expect? I'm learning. I now expect
everything I own to be garbage in ten years, except for the comptuers, which
seem to manage that feat in two. That means that whatever thing I plan to
have in my life, I need to amortize its cost over ten years, and expect to
pay that amount for the rest of my life, indexed for inflation or whatever.
It puts a sobering damper on dreams like the fully equipped workshop, for
example.
We're shopping for windows right now. We hope to move somewhere else in
maybe 8 or 9 years, but if I buy cheap now, they'll be showing their age
when I want to sell. Buying good will cost three times as much, but I'm
inclined to do so anyway. We might not be able to move; who knows. And as
I look around the house I see that I really want to renovate the TV room, a
bathroom or two, and the kitchen. But the joists under the kitchen seem
barely able to hold the weight of the fridge. To do a proper job means
rebuilding the entire house. It's overwhelming. For Get It.
It's really disappointing to see how you risk getting poorly made stuff
at every turn. I was actually in the store to buy a solid brass quick
disconnect for my garden hose. The other plastic ones I bought a few years
ago still work fine, but I'm not expecting them to last. When they fail,
they'll turn to brass, too. I felt very good about my purchase.
"If you can't afford to buy it once, you certainly can't afford to buy
it twice."
Anybody want to buy about a thousand books, several old computers, a SLR
camera and lenses, some synthesizers, and a mountain of kids' toys? $225k,
pre-packaged in a house. All (ahem) good. :)
- Owen -
In article <[email protected]>,
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Actually, many thousands of people can stretch to buy the cheap item
> once, but can never come close to three times the price (or more) for
> the top quality item. In a decade, they can probably afford another, by
> continuing to stretch.
My grandmother had a saying which I have lived by all my adult life:
"I'm too poor to buy cheap stuff."
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> >>So that's the kind of people who buy this stuff....people who have
> absolutely no contact with reality<<
>
> WOW!!!
>
> So the only folks that shop at big volume low price places are lazy ass
> slackers that belong to unions and vote the democratic ticket? You
> aren't related to Howard Dean are you? Talk about out of touch with
> reality...
>
> Robert
I never knew that one has to be a lazy-ass union member to vote democrat.
So half of all Americans are lazy-ass unionized democrats?
I'm glad you have cleared that up for me, Robert.
In article <[email protected]>,
"Owen Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
> guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
Hey, you saw a 'deluxe' model compared to some crap out there. I mean
not even melamine...paper pressed on particle board, without finished
edges on doors..and pieces of cardboard hot-melt glued in the corners
for 'strength'.
I have had to decline a few sales of my solid surface countertops
because there wasn't enough 'cabinet' to support it.... particularly in
the corner 'cabinets' made from a piece of cardboard tubing which looks
like Sonotube, but is a lot weaker than the real tubing.
In article <010720051437002449%[email protected]>,
"G.E.R.R.Y." <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > If girls gave each other wedgies that style would be long gone by now.
>
> How could they do that to each other since they almost all seem to wear
> visible thongs? Aren't they already self-wedgied with those? Some of
> the ones wearing thongs are almost as disgusting as plumber
> ass-cleavage in obese men.
>
> Gerry
MANY who wear that kind of provocative clothing shouldn't.
I live 3 minutes from a beach where it is legal for the ladies to go
topless... unfortunately, it's the ones with the brush-cuts and trucker
wallets wearing comfortable shoes that go topless... they really
shouldn't.
When that law was first passed, I nailed together a lemonade-style stand
selling suntan lotion. Big sign: "Suntan lotion, APPLICATION included,
$5.00!!"
It was only till after I offered to pay out 10 dollars that I got any
takers....
"Larry Jaques" spewed in various messages
> In Outleak Express, click the menu as follows: "Messages/Block Sender"
> and we're done. OK?
> That's why you took the time to quote and return it to the same
> woodworking forum, eh, Swingy?
The latter is called "context", Larry ... grow up, learn to restrain
yourself a bit, and the former wouldn't be necessary.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> On 11-Jul-2005, Renata <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There was just an article in the WashPost that said a
>> separate room that functions strictly as a library in a
>> house is going
>> by the
>> wayside. Now we have the explanation as to why - bad feng
>> shui.
>>
>> From another article - according to Vedic design it's best
>> if one's head faces east when sleeping. According to feng
>> shui
>> it's bad to have one's head under a window. A dilemma.
>> To place my
>> bed such that the headboard faces east, it must be under
>> the window.
>> What to do, what to do...
>>
>> Renata
>
> You'll enjoy this little snippet then. San Diego North
> County. I'm out on the patio of house I was renting
> grabbing some sun and reading and two women show up in my
> neighbor's back yard. It's really more of a communal strip
> of grass at the back of the 4 condo unit.
>
> They have coat hangers in their hands that have been cut and
> bent into L's and they are pacing back and forth along her
> portion of the grass in an orderly manner. I'm thinking
> "California..." but curiosity gets the better of me and I
> ask what they are doing.
>
> Oh and this lady just can't wait to explain her work. She
> comes over all excited and says that they are mapping the
> energy fields of my neighbor's yard and house. Both
> positive and negative fields. You apparently don't want
> negative energy fields in your kitchen and you definitely
> don't want them in your bedroom. She related this recent
> horror story where she found that a woman's pillow was right
> at a major crossing of negative energy field lines! OMG!
>
> I then asked her what they could do when they found bad
> field lines. And by God the energy field line people have
> come up with a little blivit that diverts field lines to
> where you need them to go. American engineering at it's
> finest.
>
> Holding back my tongue I noted that I had no idea energy
> field manipulation technology had progressed so far and went
> back to my reading. They continued to map the neighbor's
> yard.
>
> This is a true story btw. Adventures of an transplanted
> east coaster.... Saying the whole state is full of nuts and
> flakes it a bit of an exaggeration... but not by much.
>
> cheers
> ml
What I would have done is get some pink flamingos and plant them in the
grass strip. Tell your neigbors that the tacky pink birds balance out the
effects of the nuts and flakes next door.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:49:10 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> This is a true story btw. Adventures of an transplanted
>> east coaster.... Saying the whole state is full of nuts and
>> flakes it a bit of an exaggeration... but not by much.
>
>Hah! If it was me, I'd have fed their story a bit with some suggestion that
>hole in the ozone layer were in fact amplifying the negative energy fields.
>
Be even more fun to watch their heads explode by telling them that latest
research showed that the use of negative energy diverters was causing the
ozone hole to expand [at an alarming rate].
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:25:43 -0400, Renata <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I currently have my house on the market.
<< Snip >>
>***main point below in all this ramblin' ***
>
>The folks in the market for this kind of house don't give a $hit about
>woodwork, custom cabinetry, etc.
Well, maybe not all of them- but it only takes one, after all. To be
sure, I got a good deal on my house with all the little extras, but I
shut up and paid the asking price as soon as I saw the place. I would
have bargined a bit, but it has custom cabinets, doors and trim, as
well as a landscaped yard and I was not willing to lose the bid. It's
not a high-end mansion by any means, but the extras made the
difference to me.
>I also bought a "new" place that's a custom built home from 1961.
>It's the drab sister in a pretty good (so far) neighborhood. The
>kitchen (and, mainly, exterior) needs renovation. e.g. Appliances
>from 1961. The custom built touches show in all kinds of places,
>where a tract builder just wouldn't have gone to the trouble. Most
>folks didn't even realize it was custom built.
>
>The question arises, do I build new kitchen cabinets with solid cherry
>raised panel, cathedral style doors; build new ones in a more
>contemporary style (that's easier to build also) w/ply doors and nifty
>handles (style would seemingly better match the SS appliances); have
>someone build me the doors while I build the carcasses; go to Ikea and
>get some nice termite barf units?
How long do you plan on staying there? It's your house, after all.
If you're just looking for a quick turnaround, go for the barf- most
people don't know the difference and wouldn't care if you explained it
to them. If you're going to stay there a while, get what you like.
As I said above, mine are custom, with ply doors, and I'm really quite
pleased with them. They're not fancy by design, but the maple veneer
on the ply was chosen for figure (or by some terribly odd accident) so
they don't need any frills to look great, and they'll go with
anything.
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:19:36 -0700, the opaque Fly-by-Night CC
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> If so, do it right. Make traditional beef or chicken tamales, not some
>> newfangled yuppie-mex raisin stuff, eh? ;)
>
>Yeah, a 40 year old yuppie recipe! They were desert - remember I was 2
>to 5 years old at the time and they were a special treat. I do like
>shredded beef or chicken but being a traditionalist prefer pork tamales.
When my sister went to ASU (Tempe, AZ) in '72, her biology class took
a look at canned, fully-cooked hams under the microscope. It was fully
alive with all sorts of things. Nobody in our family has eaten pork
since, with the one exception of the occasional burnt bacon slice.
>One or two of those and a chile relleno - oh yeah BABY! Chorizo and eggs
>is another favorite - get the ol' sinuses moving in the A.M . and nary a
>problem all day.
My caucasian neighbor (Dakota raised) makes a mean relleno and always
brings me some when she makes them.
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:00:45 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Prometheus wrote:
>> Hmmm.... Come to Wisconsin, and attend a county fair. Bet you'll
>> change that tune pretty quick! :)
>
>I believe I covered that earlier in the thread, but what the hey. I
>grew up not far from you, MI and IN. I've seen big girls with not a lot
>on, visit the neighborhood sauna or go skinny dipping. Given my
>druthers, I'd rather be lookin' at the backside of the ladies. But hey,
>that's just me. It's a free country, more or less, if you wanta look at
>the guys, I won't tell. %-) But I'm still gonna watch the ladies.
I try not to look at anything that is 600lbs with a hairy back- male
or female. :) Seriously, there should be an application process for
spandex tube-tops and visable thongs. Just got some new neighbors,
and the first look I got at one of them nearly made me tear my own
eyes out- lady musta been 300 lbs, all sallow, cottage-cheese looking
cellulite, and she was bending over in shorts which, while not
particularly short or revealing in themselves, became short and
revealing because they were jammed up her ass crack. *gag* And of
course, the three-sizes-too-small tube top was in attendance as well,
to complete the ensemble.
Then again, when you see the college girls running around, it's a
whole different tune.
> You'll enjoy this little snippet then. San Diego North
> County. I'm out on the patio of house I was renting
> grabbing some sun and reading and two women show up in my
> neighbor's back yard. It's really more of a communal strip
> of grass at the back of the 4 condo unit.
>
> They have coat hangers in their hands that have been cut and
> bent into L's and they are pacing back and forth along her
> portion of the grass in an orderly manner. I'm thinking
> "California..." but curiosity gets the better of me and I
> ask what they are doing.
>
> Oh and this lady just can't wait to explain her work. She
> comes over all excited and says that they are mapping the
> energy fields of my neighbor's yard and house. Both
> positive and negative fields. You apparently don't want
> negative energy fields in your kitchen and you definitely
> don't want them in your bedroom. She related this recent
> horror story where she found that a woman's pillow was right
> at a major crossing of negative energy field lines! OMG!
>
> I then asked her what they could do when they found bad
> field lines. And by God the energy field line people have
> come up with a little blivit that diverts field lines to
> where you need them to go. American engineering at it's
> finest.
>
> Holding back my tongue I noted that I had no idea energy
> field manipulation technology had progressed so far and went
> back to my reading. They continued to map the neighbor's
> yard.
>
> This is a true story btw. Adventures of an transplanted
> east coaster.... Saying the whole state is full of nuts and
> flakes it a bit of an exaggeration... but not by much.
Around here we eat nuts and flakes for breakfast.
My neighbour Andre recently had his driveway repaved. Before any digging,
however, some guy in a truck had to trot out an expensive looking piece of
equipment to map the buried gas and power lines. First he attached some
sort of grounding wire to the gas pipe (a plastic pipe), then walked about
the yard with his machine. Andre, a ham radio operator, watched closely.
After that performance and the bill was paid, he dug into his stash of
electronics goodies and cobbled together a $5 rig that could do the same
job.
A few days later the "inspector" returned, Andre asked him about the fancy
meter and showed off his own setup. The guy smiled and told him his was
worth about thirty thousand dollars. Then he rummaged around in his truck
for a moment, and pulled out a five cent piece of stiff wire, bent into an
'L'. After a quick demonstration he awarded it to Andre, I guess to one-up
the guy who one-upped him. Andre swears that it works, but nobody knows
why.
He's now waiting for Halloween so he can wrap himself in tinfoil (to block
any influence of his own) and try again. He figures that's the only day of
the year he can get away with pacing around the front yard wearing tinfoil
from head to toe. After all, around here we eat nuts and flakes for
breakfast.
- Owen -
So here's the deal folks. At the big name places like Home Depot, Lowes,
Wal-Mart, K-Mart & whatever-Mart, you can buy really inexpensive items
(including, but not limited to kitchen cabinets). Who buys this stuff?
Guys like my father-in-law. He loves telling us about how he worked two
jobs when he was in his twenties--a day job working construction, and a
night job at the local steel mill. He brags about how he used to go to the
mill and sleep most of the time. The mill's closed now, of course, but
"It's the dammed Japanese" who took his job. He has voted the straight
Democratic ticket his whole life, and is an adamant Union supporter (and
life-long Union member). But he also revels in telling us what great
bargains he gets on stuff at Wal-Mart.
So that's the kind of people who buy this stuff....people who have
absolutely no contact with reality, and buy only on price....
"Owen Lawrence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
> guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
>
On 7-Jul-2005, Renata <[email protected]> wrote:
> The question arises, do I build new kitchen cabinets with
> solid cherry
> raised panel, cathedral style doors; build new ones in a
> more
> contemporary style (that's easier to build also) w/ply
> doors and nifty
> handles (style would seemingly better match the SS
> appliances); have
> someone build me the doors while I build the carcasses; go
> to Ikea and
> get some nice termite barf units?
once upon a time people were concerned more with enjoying
the house they lived in than the overall profit margin
obtained at resale.
If your intent is buying a house to sell for profit then I'd
talk w/a local realtor about what the hot ticket items are
for that market and do those. Even if that means not
enjoying living in the place as much.
If your intent is to enjoy the house and place your mark on
it with higher quality built-ins etc. then that is what you
should do.
you won't find answers here....
ml
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:55:26 -0400, "Owen Lawrence" <[email protected]>
wrote:
... snip
>>
>> This is a true story btw. Adventures of an transplanted
>> east coaster.... Saying the whole state is full of nuts and
>> flakes it a bit of an exaggeration... but not by much.
>
>Around here we eat nuts and flakes for breakfast.
>
>My neighbour Andre recently had his driveway repaved. Before any digging,
>however, some guy in a truck had to trot out an expensive looking piece of
>equipment to map the buried gas and power lines. First he attached some
>sort of grounding wire to the gas pipe (a plastic pipe), then walked about
>the yard with his machine. Andre, a ham radio operator, watched closely.
>After that performance and the bill was paid, he dug into his stash of
>electronics goodies and cobbled together a $5 rig that could do the same
>job.
>
Somewhat of a diversion, but around here the underground utility search
is free to the homeowner. Hopefully this is not a harbinger of things to
come in the rest of the country. Course, round here, if folks were charged
for the survey, they more than likely would just start digging and take
their chances.
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"Glen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:JCtye.3907
> >
> > a three hunnert pound guy in a miniskirt and tube top?
>
> Thank God I haven't had breakfast yet. That visual would make me lose
> it for sure. As it is my appetite is lost.
Good thing then, you weren't here in Toronto last Sunday for the annual Gay
Pride Parade.
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:44:51 -0400, the opaque Robatoy
<[email protected]> spake:
>I never knew that one has to be a lazy-ass union member to vote democrat.
>So half of all Americans are lazy-ass unionized democrats?
>
>I'm glad you have cleared that up for me, Robert.
Yeah, and the other half are lazy-assed non-union repugnicans.
There are a few of us smart-assed, anti-union, small-gov't, anti-war,
pro-freedom, clear-headed libertarians around, too.
P.S: Good post, Robert!
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On 1 Jul 2005 06:38:13 -0700, "Jack" <[email protected]> wrote:
>A few years back, my wife and I completely remodeled our kitchen. All
>of the materials came from Home Depot. Our cabinets are all fine
>quality plywood with solid wood frame and panel doors. They were built
>in NC. I installed them myself and I am very happy with them.
>
>I noticed during another remodeling job that Home Depot had particle
>board bathroom vanities for sale. Right next to them were the good
>quality plywood vanities that I bought.
>
>I like the fact that HD stocks a range of different products and I can
>choose fine quality at a reasonable price or el cheapo junk at a much
>lower price. There have been times in my life when I would have been
>happy to find cheap junk, because that is all I could afford.
>
>I also like the fact that they stock power tools that range from
>Chinese junk to Taiwanese made moderately priced imports, through fine
>quality American and European made tools.
Yesterday, the wife and I took a road trip, and stopped in at a HD for
the first time in several years. I'd have to agree with everything
you said above- We were looking at flooring, and while they carried
vinyl stick-on tiles for $.29/sq ft., they also had nice quarried
marble in the next aisle. Who cares if they've got some junk- at
least they carry some higher class materials as well. Around here,
all we've got is Menard's, and all they've got is junk piled next to
the junk- you don't get the option of buying a higher quality product
unless you have a contractor's account with a smaller commerical
vendor, or drive two hours to another chain.
"jo4hn" wrote in message
> Do you really want to end illegal aliens/cheap labor? Arrest/try/fine
> those that hire them. Haven't seen any elected official seriously
> propose that. Or maybe there's another way? GWB gave it some thought
> (?) a few years ago. Anything happened since? Maybe the vigilance
> committees are the answer?
> hoping for some rational ideas,
IMO, a guest worker program, as instituted in many European countries, is a
sensible answer to the dilemma on both sides. I can't imagine why a guest
worker would not work better than the chaos we have, however, parity is a
bad thing in a two party system ... the slimness of a fluid majority
encourages political cowardice and currying of favor with the interest
groups that oppose the idea.
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:08:13 GMT, the opaque "Ron Magen"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>FWIW -
>
>"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> There was just an article in the WashPost that said a separate room
>> that functions strictly as a library in a house is going by the
>> wayside. . . . SNIP
>
>I wonder if there is a direct correlation to the amount of READING {and
>commensurate COMPREHENSION] in our current society? I'm sure you all have
>seen or received an e-mail with no capitalization or punctuation. Plus
>ridiculous spelling errors. {MINE stinks . . but I care enough to touch a
>few keys and use the 'Spellchecker' }.
There is more than one person with a Masters flipping burgers in this
society. Reading level doesn't always determine status. I'll bet there
are many more readers in the homeless group than there are in working
society. It's sad to see libraries go.
>This is not just about stupid or 'ignorant' people. My BIL works for a stock
>brokerage and is an opera & music 'aficionado'. Several months ago he asked
>me to show him my computer set-up {a rather basic configuration . . . at
>about 10 years old, it still 'does' everything I need}. After about 15
>minutes, his soon-to-be wife came into the 12 x 15 room that is 'my office'
>& 'our library'. {BEFORE we even bought this house - maybe 30 years ago - we
>knew this room would be OUR library. One of my first 'home projects' was to
>put up 12in deep, floor-to-ceiling bookshelves on 1-1/2 walls. The
>'remainder' of the space is for the desk, computer & supplies, and file
>cabinets.} This woman looked around with, literally, wide-eyed disbelief.
>"WOW - look at all the BOOKS !!". How . ., Why . ., What . ., etc. Not even
Well, at least she recognized the medium as the fabled "book", eh?
>thinking, I told her these were almost all mine - pointing out 'sections' on
>boatbuilding, woodworking, engineering, history, magazine files, etc.
>"Joanne's desk & her medical books are in the next room, and we probably
>donate about a third as many to the library". Both good people - yet
>although they don't have a library card between them, in their one-bedroom
>apartment they DO HAVE a 42inch TV, a 'state-of-the-art sound system, 100's
>of hours of CD's & DVD's, and now an up-to-the-minute, including Internet
>Cable, computer system !!
>
>Amazing . . .
Ain't it, though?
When I moved up here 3 years ago, I brought over 400 books with me.
Since I've been here, I've checked out almost that many from the local
library. I've read about 1/2 of those cover to cover, used another 1/4
for research or data collection, and determined the other 1/4 as not
being worth the time. (When I start chewing on a subject, I get all
the books on that subject from each the library branches sent to the
local branch and then determine their worth.) I have no doubt that I
may have crossed the new fine line during that time and my library
card has an FBI file started on it. <g>
Let's see, first they limit our freedom of flying, then they take away
the books. What's next in this Brave New World of Shrub's?
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:04:58 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Related aside. Mentioned that I was thinking of adding a section of
>> lower counter for kneading dough. Was told that the standard height
>> works just fine and they have never seen such a thing, Very
>> authoritatively told, I might add.
>>
>I have seen several baking centers in custom kitchens. All the owners raved
>about them. One feature in two of them is a marble countertop. Apparently
>marble is alway cool and perfect for kneading dough.
>
>Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
>
>
>
>
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 06:21:39 -0500, Prometheus <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:01:42 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>"G.E.R.R.Y." wrote:
>>> How could they do that to each other since they almost all seem to wear
>>> visible thongs? Aren't they already self-wedgied with those? Some of
>>> the ones wearing thongs are almost as disgusting as plumber
>>> ass-cleavage in obese men.
>>
>>Lemme see, thongs, ass-cleavage in obese men. Nope, not even close.
>>%-)
>
>Hmmm.... Come to Wisconsin, and attend a county fair. Bet you'll
>change that tune pretty quick! :)
So ya'll put thongs on the cows and pigs up there in WI? Guess that
adds to the romance, eh?
GD&R :-)
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"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> Don't go there, Swingman. That is an all too common attitude that I see
> in supposed "Christian values" people. Take the time to become
> acquainted with some of these "swarthy" folk. You may change your tune.
> grump,
> j4
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:01:42 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"G.E.R.R.Y." wrote:
>> How could they do that to each other since they almost all seem to wear
>> visible thongs? Aren't they already self-wedgied with those? Some of
>> the ones wearing thongs are almost as disgusting as plumber
>> ass-cleavage in obese men.
>
>Lemme see, thongs, ass-cleavage in obese men. Nope, not even close.
>%-)
Hmmm.... Come to Wisconsin, and attend a county fair. Bet you'll
change that tune pretty quick! :)
I currently have my house on the market.
It has custom built, 3/4 (not that chintzy 1/2" stuff ;-) plywood
(thank goodness I didn't use solid wood...) red birch cabinets with
all kinds of nifty storage thingamajigs built in. Top of the line
Congoleum floor. Appliances that are higher end. It has a host of
upgrades I've done over the years including: upgraded outlets,
refinished hardwood floors, ceiling fans, a whole house fan (that
people don't understand), 2 fireplaces (well, OK, they came with the
original house), "large" landscaped yard, etc.
It doesn't have central air and is 1/2 a step above a starter home.
The lack of central air is a killer, even with lower asking price AND
a CAC installation allowance built into the price. Earlier in the
year I asked the realtor if I should go ahead and have it installed.
Nah, don't bother in this hot market. The market's cooled a tad.
We also have a lot of extended families looking and this place really
shouldn't suit them. Living in the basement (or, rather, sleeping)
isn't something I'd want to do. 'Course, they can't afford the size
home they really need.
***main point below in all this ramblin' ***
The folks in the market for this kind of house don't give a $hit about
woodwork, custom cabinetry, etc.
'Nother guy just sold his house in DC, with all kinds of neat
renovations for 57 grand above asking price (700K). Folks looking at
that house asked about the various renovations and he spent quite a
bit of time talking about them to several of the potential buyers.
***
My potential buyers'd rather have a semi trashed "grass" (or the
potential for, once you reseed it) yard rather than a landscaped yard
- because it's too much work.
Seems they're finding perfect homes elsewhere. How they define
perfect is beyond me.
Given that, I'm debating.
I also bought a "new" place that's a custom built home from 1961.
It's the drab sister in a pretty good (so far) neighborhood. The
kitchen (and, mainly, exterior) needs renovation. e.g. Appliances
from 1961. The custom built touches show in all kinds of places,
where a tract builder just wouldn't have gone to the trouble. Most
folks didn't even realize it was custom built.
The question arises, do I build new kitchen cabinets with solid cherry
raised panel, cathedral style doors; build new ones in a more
contemporary style (that's easier to build also) w/ply doors and nifty
handles (style would seemingly better match the SS appliances); have
someone build me the doors while I build the carcasses; go to Ikea and
get some nice termite barf units?
Folks across the street seem to be ones that buy, upgrade, live for
the required minimum 2 years, sell at a nice profit, move to next
place. They just moved there (in fact, I'd bid on that house also and
lost - thank goodness, after the fact). They're getting those nice
Ikea cabinets. In red (which may actually look kinda cool).
<vent mode off>
Renata
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:30:48 -0400, "Owen Lawrence"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
>cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
>four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
>guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
>
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:49:24 GMT, the opaque jo4hn
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>Swingman wrote:
>
>> "Ed Clarke" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up my
>>>street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a cubic
>>>yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then they put
>>>up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All with no safety
>>>glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing protection or face shields.
>>
>>
>> Why the hell worry when the taxpayers will pay for your medical care at the
>> local emergency room?
>>
>Don't go there, Swingman. That is an all too common attitude that I see
>in supposed "Christian values" people. Take the time to become
>acquainted with some of these "swarthy" folk. You may change your tune.
Hey, wasn't Swingy just railing on -me- about OT posts?
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
> >The latter is called "context", Larry ... grow up, learn to restrain
> >yourself a bit, and the former wouldn't be necessary.
>
> Um, I already HAVE a mother, but thanks for the lecture. So, instead
> of yet another lecture today, how about just filtering me or finding
> more tolerance? Thanks, and either is fine with me.
What's sauce for the goose, Larry ... if you don't like your childish lack
of restraint pointed out, ignore it, or filter it yourself.
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:53:16 -0500, the opaque "Swingman"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" spewed in various messages
>
>> In Outleak Express, click the menu as follows: "Messages/Block Sender"
>> and we're done. OK?
>
>> That's why you took the time to quote and return it to the same
>> woodworking forum, eh, Swingy?
>
>The latter is called "context", Larry ... grow up, learn to restrain
>yourself a bit, and the former wouldn't be necessary.
Um, I already HAVE a mother, but thanks for the lecture. So, instead
of yet another lecture today, how about just filtering me or finding
more tolerance? Thanks, and either is fine with me.
P.S: If you think you can single-handedly eliminate thread drift or
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:35:51 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
[snip]
>> Seems to me his was an attempt at wry humor, at least that's my read.
>
>And you haven't been paying attention these past few years, have you?
Forgive me, I didn't realize I needed a history lesson before posting
an observation of the fact that you chastise one guy for his
non-woodworking comments while making your own non-woodworking
comments.
I just found that curious.
But now that I realize I'm in a pissing contest, I better go get
another cup of coffee.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:37:29 GMT, the opaque [email protected]
(Scott Lurndal) clearly wrote:
>Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> writes:
>>Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I learned a lot of good Mexican cooking while living in CA and made a
>>> chorizo burrito for breakfast the other day. (Like sausage, don't ask
>>> what's used to make it. ;)
>>
>>
>>I like most foods; however, much as I try, Mexican foods will never make
>>my top 40.
>>
>>A cuisine built on lard, just doesn't do it for me.
Not that most Mexican cooks/restaurants use lard much any more...
>Ah, you've never had a taco de chivo, or lengua burrito, then. Add
>an agua fresca (horchata (spelling horiblus)). Or Biria de chivo
>(close enough to a stones album title).
>
>Yum.
Yum. (Brain tacos and tongue burritos.) Just don't tell people what's
in 'em.
>Then there is good Thai food (red curry, green curry, yellow curry,
>pad thai, cachew chicken, honey beef, spring rolls).
Chicken green curry is my favorite Thai meal of all time. I even grow
my own basil and take baggies full of green leaves into the Thai
restaurant, getting all sorts of doubletakes (from the customers,
waitresses, AND the cooks), then have them add it to the dish instead
of those crappy green pepper slices (Urg.) I once weaved in the door,
greens-filled baggie dangling from one hand, all squinty eyed, and
with a BIG grin on my face. That went over well, too. The waitress I
weaved for had asked me if she could smell it before taking it to the
cook last time. <g>
>Or, as we had today for lunch, Dim Sum. Shu mai, har gow, chicken's
>feet (delish),
>You don't know what your missing!
Keep your chicken feet. Ever see/smell what those chicks -stand- in?
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In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> >>A cuisine built on lard, just doesn't do it for me.
>
> Not that most Mexican cooks/restaurants use lard much any more...
Given the problems with hydrogenated oils (shortenings) I'd prefer my
meals contain lard, butter or olive oil - and that's coming from a
now-aware heart patient.
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Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:35:51 -0500, the opaque "Swingman"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>"Wes Stewart" wrote in message
>> Seems to me his was an attempt at wry humor, at least that's my read.
>
>And you haven't been paying attention these past few years, have you?
>
>> And -you're- talking about -books- and -books on cd- in a
>> -woodworking- forum.
>
>> Where's the diff?
>
>If you don't/won't/can't _read_ start with the phrase: "needless political
>potshots".
If you have a problem with my posts here, Swingy, please feel free to
plonk me instead of whining. (You're adding "needless political
whining" here when you reply or complain, y'know.)
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:10:12 -0500, the opaque "Swingman"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>"Larry Jaques"wrote in message
--snip--
>> Let's see, first they limit our freedom of flying, then they take away
>> the books. What's next in this Brave New World of Shrub's?
>
>Too damn bad all that book reading didn't do a thing for either your
>paranoia, or your inability to resist taking needless political potshots in
>a woodworking forum.
That's why you took the time to quote and return it to the same
woodworking forum, eh, Swingy?
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In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> I learned a lot of good Mexican cooking while living in CA and made a
> chorizo burrito for breakfast the other day. (Like sausage, don't ask
> what's used to make it. ;)
Mmmmmmm. Raisin tamales.
In my youngest days we had a Mexican woman come to our house, in
Cottonwood, AZ, once a week to help my Mom with the housework. This
lady, Lily, became much more like a third grandmother to my sister,
brother and me. She made us raisin tamales as special treats. (Whenever
I see a corn husk, the texture and smell bring back those tamales.) Her
bean burritos were fantastic - handmade tortillas and home cooked beans.
Lily's retired son lived up here in Oregon and around the early '90s had
her moved to a nursing home here to be more close-by. Back around '99,
my wife and I made a trip to the home for a visit and to introduce our
brand new daughter to Lily - Lily passed away not too long after that.
One of these days I've got to try my hand at making Lily's Raisin
Tamales for my daughter - maybe create a good memory for her and
something she can pass along to her kids.
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The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
__________
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
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In article <Fn%[email protected]>,
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> IMHO, when you have good dim sum, who needs greasy Mexican?
Well, at least with south-of-the border fare you're not hungry an hour
after dinner! 'Sides, nothin' goes with a good Marg like... that's
right, Mexican food.
(You can take the boy outa the Southwest, but you can't take the
Southwest outa the boy.)
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Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
- Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05
In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> If so, do it right. Make traditional beef or chicken tamales, not some
> newfangled yuppie-mex raisin stuff, eh? ;)
Yeah, a 40 year old yuppie recipe! They were desert - remember I was 2
to 5 years old at the time and they were a special treat. I do like
shredded beef or chicken but being a traditionalist prefer pork tamales.
One or two of those and a chile relleno - oh yeah BABY! Chorizo and eggs
is another favorite - get the ol' sinuses moving in the A.M . and nary a
problem all day.
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The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
__________
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
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Owen Lawrence wrote:
> I stopped at HD over lunch today, and on my way out I see this kitchen
> cabinet with no counter top. It's made of cheap melamine, and in the top
> four corners were four thin little plastic triangles, STAPLED in place. I
> guess they were there for strength.
>
> Who conceives of these things?!
>
> - Owen -
>
These are decisions made by actuaries. Buyers need to do some sort of
cost/benefit study including the need for longevity, reliability, and
appearance. If it works for you, buy cheap.
mahalo,
jo4hn
On 11-Jul-2005, Renata <[email protected]> wrote:
> There was just an article in the WashPost that said a
> separate room that functions strictly as a library in a
> house is going
> by the
> wayside. Now we have the explanation as to why - bad feng
> shui.
>
> From another article - according to Vedic design it's best
> if one's head faces east when sleeping. According to feng
> shui
> it's bad to have one's head under a window. A dilemma.
> To place my
> bed such that the headboard faces east, it must be under
> the window.
> What to do, what to do...
>
> Renata
You'll enjoy this little snippet then. San Diego North
County. I'm out on the patio of house I was renting
grabbing some sun and reading and two women show up in my
neighbor's back yard. It's really more of a communal strip
of grass at the back of the 4 condo unit.
They have coat hangers in their hands that have been cut and
bent into L's and they are pacing back and forth along her
portion of the grass in an orderly manner. I'm thinking
"California..." but curiosity gets the better of me and I
ask what they are doing.
Oh and this lady just can't wait to explain her work. She
comes over all excited and says that they are mapping the
energy fields of my neighbor's yard and house. Both
positive and negative fields. You apparently don't want
negative energy fields in your kitchen and you definitely
don't want them in your bedroom. She related this recent
horror story where she found that a woman's pillow was right
at a major crossing of negative energy field lines! OMG!
I then asked her what they could do when they found bad
field lines. And by God the energy field line people have
come up with a little blivit that diverts field lines to
where you need them to go. American engineering at it's
finest.
Holding back my tongue I noted that I had no idea energy
field manipulation technology had progressed so far and went
back to my reading. They continued to map the neighbor's
yard.
This is a true story btw. Adventures of an transplanted
east coaster.... Saying the whole state is full of nuts and
flakes it a bit of an exaggeration... but not by much.
cheers
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"Larry Jaques"wrote in message
> When I moved up here 3 years ago, I brought over 400 books with me.
> Since I've been here, I've checked out almost that many from the local
> library. I've read about 1/2 of those cover to cover, used another 1/4
> for research or data collection, and determined the other 1/4 as not
> being worth the time. (When I start chewing on a subject, I get all
> the books on that subject from each the library branches sent to the
> local branch and then determine their worth.) I have no doubt that I
> may have crossed the new fine line during that time and my library
> card has an FBI file started on it. <g>
>
> Let's see, first they limit our freedom of flying, then they take away
> the books. What's next in this Brave New World of Shrub's?
Too damn bad all that book reading didn't do a thing for either your
paranoia, or your inability to resist taking needless political potshots in
a woodworking forum.
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:10:12 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Larry Jaques"wrote in message
>
>> When I moved up here 3 years ago, I brought over 400 books with me.
>> Since I've been here, I've checked out almost that many from the local
>> library. I've read about 1/2 of those cover to cover, used another 1/4
>> for research or data collection, and determined the other 1/4 as not
>> being worth the time. (When I start chewing on a subject, I get all
>> the books on that subject from each the library branches sent to the
>> local branch and then determine their worth.) I have no doubt that I
>> may have crossed the new fine line during that time and my library
>> card has an FBI file started on it. <g>
>>
>> Let's see, first they limit our freedom of flying, then they take away
>> the books. What's next in this Brave New World of Shrub's?
>
>Too damn bad all that book reading didn't do a thing for either your
>paranoia, or your inability to resist taking needless political potshots in
>a woodworking forum.
Seems to me his was an attempt at wry humor, at least that's my read.
And -you're- talking about -books- and -books on cd- in a
-woodworking- forum. Where's the diff?
Regards,
Wes
"Swingman" <[email protected]> writes:
>I put a foot firmly in both worlds about ten years ago. After years of
>wrestling with shelf space and carting hundreds of books from one house to
>another, I now have about 7,000 titles ... and all but about 50 of them are
>on two DVD's.
Did you convert your paper copies to the media, or did you aquire all
new books? If the former, how did you scan everything?
Does the ebook handle inline diagrams/pictures?
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> writes:
>There are still hundreds of thousands of the finest titles in English
>literature available at Project Gutenberg (http://promo.net/pg/) for
or http://www.gutenberg.org/ directly.
I've been thinking for a while about reading for them.
(probably just some kid's stories... perhaps some classics)
I'm more interested in the input of hardbound books to etext...
(which I consider fair use as long as I own a hardcopy.)
Thought you might have had a solution.
C'est la vie!
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Making a profit isn't a problem. I'd guess 2 months into the deal I
could already sell it for more than I paid, enough to even recover my
closing costs. Been to DC area lately?
Part of the issue is my putting in a whole lot of effort (that went
way beyond kitchen cabinets) only to find that folks don't know the
difference.
Yes, I've enjoyed it, but...
as to placing my mark - what mark if the next owner is gonna tear
everything out to put some nice Ikea $shit?
I guess since this isn't my forever house (I hope) and maybe not even
my domicile for more than a few years, the personal enjoyment aspect
has to be balanced with the level of work and ensuing owner's
potential appreciation to make it worthwhile to go thru with the
effort.
Renata
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:15 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On 7-Jul-2005, Renata <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The question arises, do I build new kitchen cabinets with
>> solid cherry
>> raised panel, cathedral style doors; build new ones in a
>> more
>> contemporary style (that's easier to build also) w/ply
>> doors and nifty
>> handles (style would seemingly better match the SS
>> appliances); have
>> someone build me the doors while I build the carcasses; go
>> to Ikea and
>> get some nice termite barf units?
>
>once upon a time people were concerned more with enjoying
>the house they lived in than the overall profit margin
>obtained at resale.
>
>If your intent is buying a house to sell for profit then I'd
>talk w/a local realtor about what the hot ticket items are
>for that market and do those. Even if that means not
>enjoying living in the place as much.
>
>If your intent is to enjoy the house and place your mark on
>it with higher quality built-ins etc. then that is what you
>should do.
>
>you won't find answers here....
>
>ml
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
> >What's sauce for the goose, Larry ... if you don't like your childish
lack
> >of restraint pointed out, ignore it, or filter it yourself.
>
> You're gone, bubba.
Yep, that's about par for your political potshot persuasion ... can't handle
the heat generated by your inane, immature asides so you stick your head in
the sand.
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:23:21 -0500, the opaque "Swingman"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
>
>> >The latter is called "context", Larry ... grow up, learn to restrain
>> >yourself a bit, and the former wouldn't be necessary.
>>
>> Um, I already HAVE a mother, but thanks for the lecture. So, instead
>> of yet another lecture today, how about just filtering me or finding
>> more tolerance? Thanks, and either is fine with me.
>
>What's sauce for the goose, Larry ... if you don't like your childish lack
>of restraint pointed out, ignore it, or filter it yourself.
You're gone, bubba.
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On 4 Jul 2005 12:50:45 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>Prometheus wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:00:45 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> ... Seriously, there should be an application process for
>> spandex tube-tops and visable thongs. Just got some new neighbors,
>> and the first look I got at one of them nearly made me tear my own
>> eyes out- lady musta been 300 lbs, ...
>
>IMHO the fact that thongs and tube-tops are available in those
>sizes is evidence that a sgnificant part of the clothing industry
>is controlled by gay men intent on revenging past discrimination
>by straight men.
ROFL!!
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote:
> And an astonishing number of people remodel kitchens, including
> cabinets, well inside the 10 year mark. One of my maternal aunts used
> to insist on new appliances every five years, which sometimes made my
> mother remark that she wished we were closer than 1500 miles, as the
> old ones were always just fine.
Tell me about it. A while ago, I bought a co-op apartment. The building
had been completely renovated, and all the appliances (fridge, stove,
dishwasher, microwave, washer/dryer) were brand new. Nothing was top of
the line, but it wasn't junk either. 11 years later, we sold the place.
Everything was in working order, but showed 11 years of cosmetic wear and
tear.
After we accepted their offer, the buyer got an engineering inspection (not
an unreasonable thing to do, but the idea is to find hidden or unexpected
flaws). About all the inspector could find to complain about was that the
appliances were 11 years old and "nearing the end of their useful
lifetime". The buyer insisted on a reduction in price so they could buy
all new appliances.
"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Related aside. Mentioned that I was thinking of adding a section of
> lower counter for kneading dough. Was told that the standard height
> works just fine and they have never seen such a thing, Very
> authoritatively told, I might add.
>
I have seen several baking centers in custom kitchens. All the owners raved
about them. One feature in two of them is a marble countertop. Apparently
marble is alway cool and perfect for kneading dough.
Are there still folks out there who still cook and bake?
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>
>> I learned a lot of good Mexican cooking while living in CA and made a
>> chorizo burrito for breakfast the other day. (Like sausage, don't ask
>> what's used to make it. ;)
>
>
>
> I like most foods; however, much as I try, Mexican foods will never make
> my top 40.
>
> A cuisine built on lard, just doesn't do it for me.
>
[snip]
Hey, it gives you a cold nose, a shiny coat, and a well greased colon.
What more do you need?
blechhh,
jo4hn
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:08:13 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>FWIW -
>
>"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> There was just an article in the WashPost that said a separate room
>> that functions strictly as a library in a house is going by the
>> wayside. . . . SNIP
>
>I wonder if there is a direct correlation to the amount of READING {and
>commensurate COMPREHENSION] in our current society? I'm sure you all have
>seen or received an e-mail with no capitalization or punctuation. Plus
>ridiculous spelling errors. {MINE stinks . . but I care enough to touch a
>few keys and use the 'Spellchecker' }.
>
Went to buy some of that light colored plywood at one of the BORGs.
You know - berch. Took the lumber desk associate literally about 5
minutes of pondering to come up with the spelling.
Oh, and they've never heard of melamine. Was I sure that was the
correct name?
-snip-
Renata
>
>Amazing . . .
>
>Regards & Thanks,
>Ron Magen
>Backyard Boatshop
>{and 'Certified Curmudgeon' ?? }
>
>
On 1 Jul 2005 08:29:50 -0700, the opaque [email protected]
spake:
>Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>> ... Have you noticed the
>> way that teenage girls now run around in jeans and tops that leave a
>> half inch gap at the midriff? That is one of our all time favourites.
>> Its getting to the point where it is impossible for women to buy real
>> clothes, thats why you see so many going round with an inch of flesh
>> exposed in the middle of January with snow on the ground.
So much the better. I have warm hands.
>If girls gave each other wedgies that style would be long gone by now.
Let's pray they never start, eh? <domg>
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:37:00 -0400, "G.E.R.R.Y."
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Some of
>the ones wearing thongs are almost as disgusting as plumber
>ass-cleavage in obese men.
There ought to be a civilian review board... And a limit at about
size 10, but only with a certain height.
Barry
"Patriarch" wrote in message
> Thoughts on acceptable
> risk have changed a bit over the years. Ask an old farmer.
Hell, I _am_ an old farmer. :)
However, while you do win some ... you lose in the end no matter what.
Read Galsworthy's "Forsyte Saga", if you haven't already. Old Jolyon's tale
is as topical today as it was in 1900.
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loutent <[email protected]> writes:
[...]
> (I'm a retired hobbyist).
So instead of following your hobby you just sit and enjoy the result? ;-)
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How do any of you happen to know that the "swarthy" workers in question
would be availing themselves of tax payer funded health care if they got
hurt? Hell, they might even be, gasp, tax payers themselves.
You're not automatically assuming that every "swarthy" worker in the world
is working illegally are you?
As for tax bills and bleeding on foreign shores, immigrants bring in more
then they take out. The amount of taxes withheld from paychecks that is
unclaimed by undocumented workers alone is in the billions, that's money
going to the federal government coming from people who will rarely if ever
be able to get any of it back. If immigrant workers are a problem, prosecute
those who hire them, that should take care of that matter.
We went to "foreign shores" in some cases to give the people who live there
a taste of capitalism, surely you don't mean to suggest that all those
adventures in foreign lands were simply for our own gain. We've been telling
the world for some time now how great it is here in the good ol U.S.A., and
now we're shocked to discover that people believed us and want to to live
here. Heavens, what are we gonna do when all those Iraqi's we "liberated"
want to do the same thing?
Problem with painting with broad brushes is that you even cover up the good
parts you meant to leave alone, much like generalised bigotry covers over
the simple facts that people are people in the end, and most of em want the
same things. A place to live, some food on the table and a feeling of
security, blaming immigrants for the current rash of issues facing both
border and non-border states is just scapegoating.
John Emmons, happily living in a border state.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "jo4hn" wrote in message
> > Swingman wrote:
> >
> > > "Ed Clarke" wrote in message
> > >
> > >>There's a crew of about six guys that's been building a stone wall up
my
> > >>street for the past month or two. They take big honking rocks ( a
cubic
> > >>yard ) and convert them into smaller rocks with a sledge. Then they
put
> > >>up the most beautiful stone wall that I've ever seen. All with no
> safety
> > >>glasses. And the lawn guys never wear hearing protection or face
> shields.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why the hell worry when the taxpayers will pay for your medical care
at
> the
> > > local emergency room?
> > >
> > Don't go there, Swingman. That is an all too common attitude that I see
> > in supposed "Christian values" people. Take the time to become
> > acquainted with some of these "swarthy" folk. You may change your tune.
> > grump,
>
> Maybe you don't qualify, but you better fu**ing believe that my tax bill,
> along with some blood left on foreign shores, damn well allows me to "go
> there".
>
> Not to mention that I have firsthand experience in the matter ... I PAY
the
> bill!! Just the property taxes on the roof over my family's head would
make
> _you_ a "grump" about the reality of this well documented issue in this
> border state.
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