SB

"Sam Berlyn"

07/11/2004 5:32 PM

Which Saw??

Hi,
I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
What do you lot recommend??

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jJ

[email protected] (Joe Bobst)

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 6:07 PM

<< I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot
recommend?? >>

Ever tried a nice sharp Disston hand saw? Its amazing how well they work.
Sometimes we get too hung up with power this-n'-that to realize that there are
still some efficient hand tools out there. Another nickel's worth...

Joe

gg

"gandalf"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 8:24 PM


"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sam Berlyn wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
>> What do you lot recommend??
>
> Use a fence.
>
------------------
Unless you have a good jigsaw, where the blade can be set parallel to the
base, a fence will introduce you to a whole new world of pain.

ON

Old Nick

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

09/11/2004 8:17 AM

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:24:44 -0000, "gandalf"
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>
>"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Sam Berlyn wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
>>> What do you lot recommend??
>>
>> Use a fence.
>>
>------------------
>Unless you have a good jigsaw, where the blade can be set parallel to the
>base, a fence will introduce you to a whole new world of pain.

Hear here! Wot he sed.
*****************************************************
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People are better than dogs for only one purpose. And
then it's only half of ofthe people. And _then_ most
of them are only ordinary anyway. And then they have a
headache.........

b

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 1:29 PM

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:39:24 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What's going to be better?
>
>A Stanley one for £14 ish or a Challenge Circular saw for £25 from
>ArgosExtra
>
>(whichever one you say will go on my XMas list! :)

Sam-

see if you can connect with Andy Dingley. He's in the UK and seems to
know what he's about.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 10:47 PM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Sam Berlyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> > I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
> > What do you lot recommend??
>
> What are you cutting/ how often will you need a saw.
>
> Circular saw or a table saw is much better for straight cutting. What is
> best? Depends on the needs. Circular saw is great for framing, shelving,
> rough work. If you want to make furniture, get a table saw.
>
>

This is from the "what's it really matter department", but reading your
comments Edwin, and I was reminded of life in the service when all I had was
a cheap B&D circular saw and an even cheaper Skill jig saw, and a really,
really bad B&D 3/8 single speed non-reversible drill motor. Made all of my
stuff with those tools. I used to do stage magic when I was overseas and I
made all of my own props as well as small furniture pieces. Just goes to
show what you can do with lesser tools if you have to. Of course - I did do
a lot more sanding then than I do now. Everything's relative - back then
I'd have thought owning a couple of saw horses would have been the big time.
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SB

"Sam Berlyn"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 7:39 PM

What's going to be better?

A Stanley one for £14 ish or a Challenge Circular saw for £25 from
ArgosExtra

(whichever one you say will go on my XMas list! :)


"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7Nujd.90355$bk1.88624@fed1read05...
>
> > Can you get those in the UK
> >
> >
> He's talking about a standard hand saw, not powered saw. Disston was a
brand
> that no longer exists, they were in the USA. You could go to a hardware
store
> and buy a nice new Stanley shark tooth (sharp tooth?), these are made with
a
> new teeth design that will do both cross cutting and rip cutting. There
used to
> be a difference between the two types. Maybe they cost around £14 or less.
Or
> try to find an old used one.
>
> Alex
>
>


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"AAvK"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 11:34 AM


> Can you get those in the UK
>
>
He's talking about a standard hand saw, not powered saw. Disston was a brand
that no longer exists, they were in the USA. You could go to a hardware store
and buy a nice new Stanley shark tooth (sharp tooth?), these are made with a
new teeth design that will do both cross cutting and rip cutting. There used to
be a difference between the two types. Maybe they cost around £14 or less. Or
try to find an old used one.

Alex

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 5:25 PM

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:39:24 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>What's going to be better?
>
>A Stanley one for £14 ish or a Challenge Circular saw for £25 from
>ArgosExtra
>
>(whichever one you say will go on my XMas list! :)

I'm not familiar with Challenge but both saws are fairly
cheap. You might want to look at friends' & neighbor's
circular saws before buying a circular saw. They might
have some feedback for you, and you could try them at
cutting some wood.

If you want a new handsaw, buy a Japanese Ryoba saw.
It gives you a thin kerf, straight cut (I eyeballed a
straight cut on a 2x8 jarrah plank and cut within 0.020")
and both rip and crosscut teeth. I picked one up from
www.japanwoodworker.com in the USA for $26.

For an old saw, try Ebay and look for a real Disston or
Atkins handsaw.

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towards social purposes on its own initiative, but only under heavy
pressure, while its motion towards anti-social purposes is self-sprung.
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b

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 11:01 AM

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
>What do you lot recommend??


I have a bosch. I like it a lot.

however, it's expensive. if money's an issue for you, first try using
a better blade in the saw you have.

your email address bounces.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 5:45 PM


"Sam Berlyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
> What do you lot recommend??
>

Circular saw.

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SW

"Steve Williams"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

08/11/2004 10:33 PM

Sam

More information often helps. What wood and how thick also what jigsaw.

Good blades help, generally Bosch in the UK. Cheaper jigsaws don't always
cut straight, it may be that you have to hold the body of the saw slightly
out of line with the cut to cut straight.

If your interested in some of the other suggestions given here. For a hand
saw I would suggest to start with one of the hard point saws from Axminster
preferable 10pt. With a Diston you would at some time need to find a saw
sharpening service which are becoming hard to find.

For a circular saw something from B&Q or Axminster would do fine. The ones
from B&Q don't always work well at first, you do the quality control rather
than the manufacturer which is reflected in the price but they will swap
them under guarantee. Two further points if it is for cutting ply or MDF
laying it on a sheet of 25mm polystyrene and cutting through the sheet and
5mm into the polystyrene works very well. Also check with your parents
before buying they have funny ideas about their 13yr old sons keeping all
their fingers which circulars saws are very good at removing.

Hope this helps

Steve
"Sam Berlyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
> What do you lot recommend??
>
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> [email protected]
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"AAvK"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 6:55 PM

> This is from the "what's it really matter department", but reading your
> comments Edwin, and I was reminded of life in the service when all I had was
> a cheap B&D circular saw and an even cheaper Skill jig saw, and a really,
> really bad B&D 3/8 single speed non-reversible drill motor. Made all of my
> stuff with those tools. I used to do stage magic when I was overseas and I
> made all of my own props as well as small furniture pieces. Just goes to
> show what you can do with lesser tools if you have to. Of course - I did do
> a lot more sanding then than I do now. Everything's relative - back then
> I'd have thought owning a couple of saw horses would have been the big time.
> --
>
Good thinking. I wish I was born with such a principle of economic humility,
I'd be a better off man nowadays.

Alex

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 2:15 PM

Sam Berlyn wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
> What do you lot recommend??

Use a fence.

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

tt

"toller"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 5:41 PM

At the risk of sounding sarcastic, jigsaws are used to cut curves. Yes, it
is hard to cut straight with them.

Depending on your use, you will have to either suffer with a jigsaw or use a
circular saw. They are pretty easy to cut straight with.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 10:27 PM


"Sam Berlyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
> What do you lot recommend??

What are you cutting/ how often will you need a saw.

Circular saw or a table saw is much better for straight cutting. What is
best? Depends on the needs. Circular saw is great for framing, shelving,
rough work. If you want to make furniture, get a table saw.

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 7:56 PM

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
>What do you lot recommend??

Use it against a straight edge.

Barry

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

09/11/2004 12:35 AM

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:20:33 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
wrote:


>To put it "bluntly", cutting _anything_ with a jigsaw is a skill, as
>it is with any other tool. That _INCLUDES TABLE SAWS_....sorry, short
>rant over.

Is that why some saws are called "Skil Saws"?

Barry

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 9:58 PM

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
>What do you lot recommend??

It is not easy to make a straight cut with a jigsaw, nor a bandsaw for
that matter. You could try using a clamp-on straightedge. Nothing
beats making a straight cut on a well-tuned table saw.

ON

Old Nick

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

09/11/2004 8:20 AM

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>Hi,
>I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight.
>What do you lot recommend??

You have had a lot of replies. But if you describe what you have tried
more carefully, then it may be easier to give help.

To put it "bluntly", cutting _anything_ with a jigsaw is a skill, as
it is with any other tool. That _INCLUDES TABLE SAWS_....sorry, short
rant over.

*****************************************************
Dogs are better than people.

People are better than dogs for only one purpose. And
then it's only half of ofthe people. And _then_ most
of them are only ordinary anyway. And then they have a
headache.........

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

08/11/2004 5:09 PM


> >To put it "bluntly", cutting _anything_ with a jigsaw is a skill, as
> >it is with any other tool. That _INCLUDES TABLE SAWS_....sorry, short
> >rant over.
>
> Is that why some saws are called "Skil Saws"?
> Barry


aaaaaaa shaaaddaaaapp!! buwahahahahaaaaaa!!!

Alex

SB

"Sam Berlyn"

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 6:12 PM

Can you get those in the UK

"Joe Bobst" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> << I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot
> recommend?? >>
>
> Ever tried a nice sharp Disston hand saw? Its amazing how well they work.
> Sometimes we get too hung up with power this-n'-that to realize that there
are
> still some efficient hand tools out there. Another nickel's worth...
>
> Joe
>


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Juergen Hannappel

in reply to "Sam Berlyn" on 07/11/2004 5:32 PM

07/11/2004 7:11 PM

"toller" <[email protected]> writes:

> At the risk of sounding sarcastic, jigsaws are used to cut curves. Yes, it
> is hard to cut straight with them.
>
> Depending on your use, you will have to either suffer with a jigsaw or use a
> circular saw. They are pretty easy to cut straight with.

What, a circular saw cuts straight and not circles? ;-)
Honest, if the OP does not say *what* he want's to cut it's hard to
recomend something to him. But given him posting in a woodworking
group and (as infered from his other posting about plans for a 13 year
old) being rather young i would recoment a ryoba saw. Hand powered
saws make it much harder to cut off fingers that electrically powered
ones... And if you are still young you should use the opportunity to
learn sawing the right way!

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