Well, I think they're big. 12' or longer, 8" in diameter and look to be one
piece, turned somehow.
They are holding up the roof of a 1800's or early 1900's stable and part of
the internal structure...
I have the right to remove them if I replace them with steel beams as the
structure is being gutted...
Thoughts on value?
Wood type unknown.
Photos available in a few days if anyone has a real interest or can provide
info.
All money raised if I do sell these goes to a real charity that helps teens
in a Metro NY town. I won't make a penny... And I'm not pulling them out
unless it is worth the effort for the group.
Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
V8013-R
On Mar 15, 2:46 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, I think they're big. 12' or longer, 8" in diameter and look to be one
> piece, turned somehow.
>
> They are holding up the roof of a 1800's or early 1900's stable and part of
> the internal structure...
>
>...
>
> Wood type unknown.
>
> Photos available in a few days if anyone has a real interest or can provide
> info.
>
> All money raised if I do sell these goes to a real charity that helps teens
> in a Metro NY town. I won't make a penny... And I'm not pulling them out
> unless it is worth the effort for the group.
>
> ...
I gather this is in New York.
Can you take a block plane or a spokeshave
to them so you can see the grain and ID the
wood(s)?
They could be mixed rot-resistant hardwoods,
or all chestnut, maybe even black walnut.
Or they could be Old growth white pine or
cedar. Or almost anything that grew in the
area that wasn't prone to rot. So they are
not likely to be maple, poplar, red oak,
sycamore, elm, beech, or birch, assuming
of course that they are not rotten.
--
FF
On Mar 15, 7:20 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I gather this is in New York.
>
> Essex County, NJ. Within an old Monestary that our local group purchased a
> few years ago.
>
> ...
>
> What is the worst case scenario if they are in perfect condition, 15' tall,
> 8" in diameter and I load them on a flat bed for someone?
>
Worst case would probably be poplar. I don't think antique poplar
would
be worth much more than new. Knot free, maybe it's be worth $1 per
board foot (bf) as is, 50 to 60 dollars each. Maybe three times that
after
being resawn into standard lumber.
Wood prices vary a lot with whatever is locally available, new or
antique because the shipping costs are an important factor for
all but the most expensive woods. Poplar in California is more
expensive than Doug Fir, it's the opposite on the East Coast.
--
FF
On Mar 16, 3:50 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Mike Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Are they posts or beams? I'd think the cost of the steel would make
> > it a lot less profitable, unless you already have it on hand.
>
> Posts... Turned. Large. They look like banister spindles, but huge...
>
> The steel beams to replace them are easy for me to come by. In fact, I'm
> pretty sure we have them in stock within our building... Getting them
> installed is the hardest part, but if the posts are sellable for a good
> price, I'll sell them.
>
> Stories were told a few year ago that led me to believe they would be worth
> up to $4000 each... But I think everyone was just a wee bit optimistic on
> that...
If my arithmetic is correct that would be around $70/bf.
That is rather on the optimistic side.
$400 each maybe.
--
FF
On Mar 16, 9:16 pm, "Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 16, 3:50 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Mike Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> > Are they posts or beams? I'd think the cost of the steel would make
> >> > it a lot less profitable, unless you already have it on hand.
>
> >> Posts... Turned. Large. They look like banister spindles, but huge...
>
> >> The steel beams to replace them are easy for me to come by. In fact, I'm
> >> pretty sure we have them in stock within our building... Getting them
> >> installed is the hardest part, but if the posts are sellable for a good
> >> price, I'll sell them.
>
> >> Stories were told a few year ago that led me to believe they would be
> >> worth
> >> up to $4000 each... But I think everyone was just a wee bit optimistic
> >> on
> >> that...
>
> > If my arithmetic is correct that would be around $70/bf.
>
> > That is rather on the optimistic side.
>
> > $400 each maybe.
>
> Unless someone has a need for a turned column that large. $70/bf for a
> turned column that large wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility...
$4000 for one column that size?
If so, I'd be tempted to build my own lathe for turning 15' long
8 inch diameter columns.
--
FF
"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:X%gKh.2082$y56.294@trnddc07...
>> I gather this is in New York.
>
> Essex County, NJ. Within an old Monestary that our local group purchased
> a few years ago.
>
> Surrounded by VERY old growth Maple, Pine and some others I don't know how
> to ID. In fact, so old that many are being taken down because they were
> not maintained... Pine with 30-40" trunks, Oaks with 48" trunks... And
> then some...
>
>> Can you take a block plane or a spokeshave
>> to them so you can see the grain and ID the
>> wood(s)?
>
> I'm not a woodworker for the most part... I sell tools... But I can
> certainly find someone to do this for me.
>
>> They could be mixed rot-resistant hardwoods,
>> or all chestnut, maybe even black walnut.
>> Or they could be Old growth white pine or
>> cedar. Or almost anything that grew in the
>> area that wasn't prone to rot. So they are
>> not likely to be maple, poplar, red oak,
>> sycamore, elm, beech, or birch, assuming
>> of course that they are not rotten.
>
> They are not rotten at all. Always inside and not in an area where water
> was used... Just about perfect condition.
>
> I'll shoot photos when I can and ID the wood soon. Within a week or so.
>
> What is the worst case scenario if they are in perfect condition, 15'
> tall, 8" in diameter and I load them on a flat bed for someone?
> --
>
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>
What is the finish on them?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 16, 3:50 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Mike Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > Are they posts or beams? I'd think the cost of the steel would make
>> > it a lot less profitable, unless you already have it on hand.
>>
>> Posts... Turned. Large. They look like banister spindles, but huge...
>>
>> The steel beams to replace them are easy for me to come by. In fact, I'm
>> pretty sure we have them in stock within our building... Getting them
>> installed is the hardest part, but if the posts are sellable for a good
>> price, I'll sell them.
>>
>> Stories were told a few year ago that led me to believe they would be
>> worth
>> up to $4000 each... But I think everyone was just a wee bit optimistic
>> on
>> that...
>
> If my arithmetic is correct that would be around $70/bf.
>
> That is rather on the optimistic side.
>
> $400 each maybe.
>
Unless someone has a need for a turned column that large. $70/bf for a
turned column that large wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility...
Joe,
I think you are going to have to ID the wood and also find out what ever
else that you can about them before you will even get a nibble on this one.
Used wood, especially that big and "still in use" will limit those
interested to just a few. Maybe one of those timber frame outfits would be
interested. I've heard that they frequently buy beams from old factories,
etc. and then re-saw them into timber frame stock. The cost of removing,
hauling, and re-sawing will likely make it un-profitable for most.
--
Charley
"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:_0zKh.8$EA.1@trnddc07...
> "Mike Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Are they posts or beams? I'd think the cost of the steel would make
> > it a lot less profitable, unless you already have it on hand.
>
>
> Posts... Turned. Large. They look like banister spindles, but huge...
>
> The steel beams to replace them are easy for me to come by. In fact, I'm
> pretty sure we have them in stock within our building... Getting them
> installed is the hardest part, but if the posts are sellable for a good
> price, I'll sell them.
>
> Stories were told a few year ago that led me to believe they would be
worth
> up to $4000 each... But I think everyone was just a wee bit optimistic on
> that...
> --
>
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>
>
>
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 16, 9:16 pm, "Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 16, 3:50 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> "Mike Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >> > Are they posts or beams? I'd think the cost of the steel would make
>> >> > it a lot less profitable, unless you already have it on hand.
>>
>> >> Posts... Turned. Large. They look like banister spindles, but
>> >> huge...
>>
>> >> The steel beams to replace them are easy for me to come by. In fact,
>> >> I'm
>> >> pretty sure we have them in stock within our building... Getting them
>> >> installed is the hardest part, but if the posts are sellable for a
>> >> good
>> >> price, I'll sell them.
>>
>> >> Stories were told a few year ago that led me to believe they would be
>> >> worth
>> >> up to $4000 each... But I think everyone was just a wee bit
>> >> optimistic
>> >> on
>> >> that...
>>
>> > If my arithmetic is correct that would be around $70/bf.
>>
>> > That is rather on the optimistic side.
>>
>> > $400 each maybe.
>>
>> Unless someone has a need for a turned column that large. $70/bf for a
>> turned column that large wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility...
>
> $4000 for one column that size?
>
Well, I am considering the history/age of the wood, that can inflate the
value, some people like to brag to their neighbors that their porch posts
came from a 17th century monestary :) I purchased some 7' pine turned
porch columns for house I rehabed and they were about $800 each, and those
were production peices. When you get into a 15' long column you might be
getting into custom work, which could expensive really fast...
I've never priced a 15' column, and I couldn't find anything longer than an
8' online, so this all just speculation on my part.
> If so, I'd be tempted to build my own lathe for turning 15' long
> 8 inch diameter columns.
>
You could, but I doubt you would get a whole lot of business, there just
isn't a whole lot of demand these days for that type of product in new
construction (unfortunately).
There are companies that salvage "barn wood" that will purchase your
beams and then resell them at a handsome profit to architectural firms.
You might cut out the middleman by asking architects in your area or one
of their professional associations. Then again you could try their
customers.... You might also advertise among the various Hudson Valley,
Long Island and Finger Lakes wineries.... they're always looking for
some aesthetic appeal for their tasting rooms, and structural members
for their cellars. Bottom line is that I am entirely certain that your
timbers would be scoffed up in no time.
J.
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
> Well, I think they're big. 12' or longer, 8" in diameter and look to be one
> piece, turned somehow.
>
> They are holding up the roof of a 1800's or early 1900's stable and part of
> the internal structure...
>
> I have the right to remove them if I replace them with steel beams as the
> structure is being gutted...
>
> Thoughts on value?
>
> Wood type unknown.
>
> Photos available in a few days if anyone has a real interest or can provide
> info.
>
> All money raised if I do sell these goes to a real charity that helps teens
> in a Metro NY town. I won't make a penny... And I'm not pulling them out
> unless it is worth the effort for the group.
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>
>
>
> I gather this is in New York.
Essex County, NJ. Within an old Monestary that our local group purchased a
few years ago.
Surrounded by VERY old growth Maple, Pine and some others I don't know how
to ID. In fact, so old that many are being taken down because they were not
maintained... Pine with 30-40" trunks, Oaks with 48" trunks... And then
some...
> Can you take a block plane or a spokeshave
> to them so you can see the grain and ID the
> wood(s)?
I'm not a woodworker for the most part... I sell tools... But I can
certainly find someone to do this for me.
> They could be mixed rot-resistant hardwoods,
> or all chestnut, maybe even black walnut.
> Or they could be Old growth white pine or
> cedar. Or almost anything that grew in the
> area that wasn't prone to rot. So they are
> not likely to be maple, poplar, red oak,
> sycamore, elm, beech, or birch, assuming
> of course that they are not rotten.
They are not rotten at all. Always inside and not in an area where water
was used... Just about perfect condition.
I'll shoot photos when I can and ID the wood soon. Within a week or so.
What is the worst case scenario if they are in perfect condition, 15' tall,
8" in diameter and I load them on a flat bed for someone?
--
Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
V8013-R
"Mike Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Are they posts or beams? I'd think the cost of the steel would make
> it a lot less profitable, unless you already have it on hand.
Posts... Turned. Large. They look like banister spindles, but huge...
The steel beams to replace them are easy for me to come by. In fact, I'm
pretty sure we have them in stock within our building... Getting them
installed is the hardest part, but if the posts are sellable for a good
price, I'll sell them.
Stories were told a few year ago that led me to believe they would be worth
up to $4000 each... But I think everyone was just a wee bit optimistic on
that...
--
Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
V8013-R
Are they posts or beams? I'd think the cost of the steel would make
it a lot less profitable, unless you already have it on hand.
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
> Well, I think they're big. 12' or longer, 8" in diameter and look to be one
> piece, turned somehow.
>
> They are holding up the roof of a 1800's or early 1900's stable and part of
> the internal structure...
>
> I have the right to remove them if I replace them with steel beams as the
> structure is being gutted...