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Rob H.

20/02/2014 2:12 AM

What is it? Set 533

I need some help with the last item this week, number 3114:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Larger images:

http://imgur.com/a/MR0oW


Rob


This topic has 21 replies

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"G. Ross"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 8:11 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the last item this week, number 3114:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/MR0oW
>
>
> Rob
>
3112 A fence stretcher. A pole fit into the socket, and as it was
swung back and forth the claws caught alternate links in a large chain
and pulled.

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LdB

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

21/02/2014 12:44 PM

On 2/20/2014 8:00 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Mark Brader says...
>>
>
>> 3113. A relay.
>
> Correct
>

Technically a Wire Spring Relay. There were a few of them in the old
Telco Central Offices, PBX's and Key Systems.

Google Wire Spring Relay Images. I think you will find one or two. :)

LdB

mM

[email protected] (Mark Brader)

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 4:41 AM

3109. A mixing nozzle, for spraying things like weedkiller using a
stream of water.

3110. An arc light.

3113. A relay.
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Toronto and it's getting less infinite all the time!"
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My text in this article is in the public domain.

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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 5:39 PM

"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

Oh, Don! Oh, Don...

Lloyd

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 7:30 AM

On 2/20/2014 5:12 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the last item this week, number 3114:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/MR0oW
>
>
> Rob
>
Posting from my desk top PC in the living
room, as always.

3109, pneumatic vaccination gun?
3110, no clue. Maybe electrical measuring
test probe?
3111, Superman's hiking stick
3112, maybe a pallet puller?
3113, maybe some kind of switching relay,
possibly phone system?
3114, it's a long black thing with no
discernable detail. Perhaps better photos?


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Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 5:33 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the last item this week, number 3114:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/MR0oW
>
>
> Rob
>

#3114 How about a "turf stake". The following
appears to be a patent for one.

http://www.google.com/patents/US5881495

This set had me feeling pretty brow-beat too!

Bill

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 5:59 AM

>#3114 How about a "turf stake". The following
>appears to be a patent for one.
>
>http://www.google.com/patents/US5881495
>
>This set had me feeling pretty brow-beat too!
>
>Bill


Could be, I'm still not sure about this item.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 6:00 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Mark Brader says...
>
>3109. A mixing nozzle, for spraying things like weedkiller using a
>stream of water.
>
>3110. An arc light.


Neither of these


>3113. A relay.

Correct

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 6:01 AM


>3112 A fence stretcher. A pole fit into the socket, and as it was
>swung back and forth the claws caught alternate links in a large chain
>and pulled.
>


Fence stretcher is correct.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 6:05 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

>Posting from my desk top PC in the living
>room, as always.
>
>3109, pneumatic vaccination gun?
>3110, no clue. Maybe electrical measuring
>test probe?
>3111, Superman's hiking stick
>3112, maybe a pallet puller?
>3113, maybe some kind of switching relay,
>possibly phone system?

Yes, it's an old relay from the phone system

>3114, it's a long black thing with no
>discernable detail. Perhaps better photos?

Better photos would certainly help, it's plastic, hollow, and has four slots on
the end, two of which can be seen in the last photo. I was thinking it could be
some kind of knot tying device but couldn't find one like it.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 12:11 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the last item this week, number 3114:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/MR0oW
>
>
> Rob
>

3111 looks like a bale spear.

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"Phil Kangas"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 1:25 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with the last item this week,
>number 3114:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/MR0oW
>
>
> Rob
>

3110. Is a magnetic particle inspection yoke.
Used to detect cracks
in steel items. Turn it on with the button and
sprinkle very fine
steel powder and if there is a crack the powder
will stand up on
either side of it. Can't be fooled. The coils
swivel to accomodate
the structure.


RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 11:04 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

>
>3111 looks like a bale spear.
>


Correct

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 11:06 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

>3110. Is a magnetic particle inspection yoke.
>Used to detect cracks
>in steel items. Turn it on with the button and
>sprinkle very fine
>steel powder and if there is a crack the powder
>will stand up on
>either side of it. Can't be fooled. The coils
>swivel to accomodate
>the structure.


Good answer, I was going to call it a magnaflux device but it looks like
magnetic
particle inspection yoke is a more common term for it.

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 11:54 AM


3109 Cold gun. AKA vortex tube.
Art

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 4:59 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>>3110. Is a magnetic particle inspection yoke.
>>Used to detect cracks
>>in steel items. Turn it on with the button and
>>sprinkle very fine
>>steel powder and if there is a crack the powder
>>will stand up on
>>either side of it. Can't be fooled. The coils
>>swivel to accomodate
>>the structure.
>
>
> Good answer, I was going to call it a magnaflux
> device but it looks like
> magnetic
> particle inspection yoke is a more common term
> for it.
>

Hooo Boooy! I finally answered one and got it
right! ;>)}
Magnaflux is the proprietary company name for it.
This one looks to be intended for pipe.


RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

21/02/2014 1:24 PM


>>> 3113. A relay.
>>
>> Correct
>>
>
>Technically a Wire Spring Relay. There were a few of them in the old
>Telco Central Offices, PBX's and Key Systems.
>
>Google Wire Spring Relay Images. I think you will find one or two. :)
>
>LdB


According to the owner it's a flat spring relay, which I think is similar to a
wire spring relay, I really don't know the difference between the two.

The answers for this set have been posted, still not sure about the last one:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/02/set-533.html#answers


Rob

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

22/02/2014 4:10 AM

Thanks for the information on the relay, I'll pass it along to the owner of it
in
case he doesn't already know how it works.

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 9:13 AM

On 2/20/2014 9:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>> 3113, maybe some kind of switching relay,
>> possibly phone system?
>
> Yes, it's an old relay from the phone system
>
SM: Neat, glad to get one, now and again.

>> 3114, it's a long black thing with no
>> discernable detail. Perhaps better photos?
>
> Better photos would certainly help, it's plastic, hollow, and has four slots on
> the end, two of which can be seen in the last photo. I was thinking it could be
> some kind of knot tying device but couldn't find one like it.
>
SM: Makes me wonder if it's some kind of dispenser,
the slot allows for a button to push the item out
the pointy end of the tube.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

20/02/2014 10:16 PM

On 2014-02-20, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the last item this week, number 3114:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/MR0oW

Posting from the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

3109) It distributes some kind of gas or blown content.

I only see one fitting, but I see what appears to be two
triggers. No reservoir such as would be found in a spray paint
gun.

At a guess, it perhaps distributes ionized air to discharge
static charges on something -- in which case it also needs a
high voltage coming into the gun at some point.

3110) A hand-held electromagnet. The push button energizes the
coils. The clips partially hiding behind the right-hand
end suggest that it is powered by clipping onto an automotive
battery,, so I think that it is intended to magnetize something,
rather than de-magnetize, as that would require AC instead of
DC.

It looks as though the knurled nut in the center of the handle
adjusts the spacing of the pole pieces.

At a guess, it is used to re-magnetize the poles in a generator
(predecessor to the current alternator).

It could also be used to pick up objects made of iron or steel.

3111) The point suggests that it is intended to be a non-slip device
on ice outdoors. The bolt at the other end suggests that it may
be a hinged prop for something on ice.

3112) A load binder designed to hook over links of a chain, and
shorten it to tighten it around the load (typically in a flatbed
truck.

3113) A telephone relay -- I think made by Western Electric.

The terminals are intended to be connected to by wire-wrap
tools, not soldering.

It has two coils, given the number of pins at the top surface,
and the fact that wires are soldered to all four pins at the
coil end.

Most of the wire-wrap terminal relays also had wire contacts,
with pairs of spring wires twisted tight and then squeezed
square, but this one has flat contacts. I can't tell which form
the contacts have (A, B, C, or some of the more complex like
break-make-before-break which were common in exchanges. I'm
more familiar with the style of relays made and used by
Automatic Electric -- a quite different style.

3114) What is the material? Is it all metal, or is the shell
plastic? The slots mentioned are barely visible in the photos.

If all metal, I think that it is intended to hold a knife blade
(perhaps a scalpel) with the knob adjusting how far it sticks
out. In that case, the slot in the upper end is to keep the
blade from rotating. One of the expansions of DFHA might
support this: "Doctors Financial Health Advisors"

If the housing is plastic, however, it might be a form of test
probe used in electronics work. The wire connected to the point
held in the end would come out the slot, and again, the knob
would control how much of the point is exposed.

It could also be intended to dispense small parts -- perhaps
ball bearings, or tumblers for pin-tumblers locks. They would
be loaded into the slot at the big end, and slowly shoved out by
turning the knob.

Time to post and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.



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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/02/2014 2:12 AM

22/02/2014 4:35 AM

On 2014-02-21, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>> 3113. A relay.
>>>
>>> Correct
>>>
>>
>>Technically a Wire Spring Relay. There were a few of them in the old
>>Telco Central Offices, PBX's and Key Systems.
>>
>>Google Wire Spring Relay Images. I think you will find one or two. :)
>>
>>LdB
>
>
> According to the owner it's a flat spring relay, which I think is similar to a
> wire spring relay, I really don't know the difference between the two.

I agree that it is a flat spring relay. From the end shown, the
wire-spring relay would have what appears to be squared-off twisted
wires as pins (squared-off to serve as wire-wrap pins). This one shows
flat springs narrowed to make the pins for the wire-wrap connections.

Flat spring contacts (easier to see from the other end) have one
or two silver contact buttons spot welded onto the springs. The two
contact ones are better at controlling bounce pulses, and will have a
slot cut between the two contact points so each applies force
independently.

The wire spring relays have two spring wires for each contact,
each making contact on its own with a rectangular stationary block
(secured on the end of a stiffer single wire), and usually two more
making contact from the other side depending on which direction the
magnetic arm is in at the moment. The contacts are all moved by a
single phenolic frame with notches for each of the wires.

> The answers for this set have been posted, still not sure about the last one:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/02/set-533.html#answers

The function of the first one explains why it has two triggers
-- one for forward, the other for backward thrust. That is a neat
device to show.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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