I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best shape"
shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee Valley.
The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with the
blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in the
plane.
First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the blade
to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half way
off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the nut.
So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
Deb
Dr. Deb wrote:
>
> I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best
> shape"
> shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee Valley.
> The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with
> the blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in
the
> plane.
>
> First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>
> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the
> blade
> to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half
> way off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the nut.
>
> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
>
> Deb
\For th ose of you who suggested moving the frog. I did but it made no
difference.
John mentioned that the cap irons might be different and he may be on to
something. I put the old cap iron on the Veritas blade and made wonderful
shavings with the adjuster having about two or three threads showing.
BTW, this plane has the Bailey style frog adjuster on it. Would that make a
difference?
Deb
On Apr 13, 8:21=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the =
blade to engage. ...
>
> Try moving the frog back a bit.
Whoops! I should have said to move the frog forward ....
On Friday, April 12, 2013 6:20:15 PM UTC-5, Dr. Deb wrote:
> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
Can you see if the blade is flat onto/against the frog? I am wondering if it is not (properly) flat against the frog.
If I'm understanding the problem correctly, loosen the frog and move it forward a bit.
Sonny
"Dr. Deb" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>Final, followup.
>I called Lee Valley. Their only answer was to sent the cap iron back for a
>refund. It seems Vertias only makes one cap iron, which takes us to the
>Lie
>Neilson link and a custom cap iron. EXCEPT for the fact that the original
>cap iron does a great job ! I am pulling gossimer thin shavings and it
>just
>does not get better than that, at least, not in my shop. :-)
That works... !
From a practical standpoint, thicker irons and chip breakers come in handy
for reducing/eliminating chatter on hard wood (physically, not type) but for
many woods you will not see a difference anyway. Also, a No 7 is generally
used for flattening / jointing surfaces and other planes, e.g., No 4, used
for finishing. As such a bit of minor chatter may never negatively impact
your work anyway.
John
"Dr. Deb" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best shape"
>shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee Valley.
>The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with
>the
>blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in the
>plane.
>First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the
>blade
>to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half way
>off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the nut.
>So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
It could be normal but not right at the same time as the lengths of the chip
breaker/cap iron varied over time on Stanley planes. Lie-Nielson mentions
this issue on their site http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?sku=CB
I guess the first question would be, How do the dimensions of the Veritas
cap iron match up to the dimensions of the original Stanley? If it varies
more than the .01" that L-N mentions then perhaps you need a custom cap
iron.
John
On 4/12/2013 6:20 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>
> I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best shape"
> shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee Valley.
> The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with the
> blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in the
> plane.
>
> First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>
> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the blade
> to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half way
> off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the nut.
>
> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
>
> Deb
>
What does Lee Valley say?
Leon wrote:
> On 4/12/2013 6:20 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>>
>> I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best
>> shape"
>> shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee
>> Valley.
>> The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with
>> the blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in
>> the plane.
>>
>> First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>>
>> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the
>> blade
>> to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half
>> way off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the
>> nut.
>>
>> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
>>
>> Deb
>>
>
>
> What does Lee Valley say?
They were closed by the time I got the cap from UPS and installed. But I
will call them Monday.
woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/12/2013 8:46 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/12/2013 6:20 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best
>>>> shape"
>>>> shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee
>>>> Valley.
>>>> The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it
>>>> with the blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and
mounted
>>>> it in the plane.
>>>>
>>>> First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>>>>
>>>> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the
>>>> blade
>>>> to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half
>>>> way off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the
>>>> nut.
>>>>
>>>> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
>>>>
>>>> Deb
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What does Lee Valley say?
>>
>>
>> They were closed by the time I got the cap from UPS and installed. But
>> I will call them Monday.
>>
> so generally the cap iron controls the depth of blade. Since the notch
> for the blade height on the no 7 is cap iron. Move it closer to the edge
> of the blade., if not, if the blade is that long, they have given you
> many , many years of sharpening. Which blade did you get, O1, A1, or
> PMV11?
>
A2 blade with the cap iron. Of course its the cap iron that is causing the
problem.
Deb
On 4/13/2013 5:24 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Apr 13, 8:21 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the blade to engage. ...
>>
>> Try moving the frog back a bit.
>
> Whoops! I should have said to move the frog forward ....
>
Try moving it side-to-side.
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:46:11 -0500, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]>
>They were closed by the time I got the cap from UPS and installed.
But I
>will call them Monday.
My suggestion is that you email them instead, possibly with a picture
of the plane and new blade.
Call one person on the phone and you *might* talk to two or three to
possibly get a possible answer. Email them and you may get an answer
from a much larger knowledge pool.
On 4/12/2013 8:46 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2013 6:20 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best
>>> shape"
>>> shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee
>>> Valley.
>>> The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with
>>> the blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in
>>> the plane.
>>>
>>> First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>>>
>>> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the
>>> blade
>>> to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half
>>> way off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the
>>> nut.
>>>
>>> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
>>>
>>> Deb
>>>
>>
>>
>> What does Lee Valley say?
>
>
> They were closed by the time I got the cap from UPS and installed. But I
> will call them Monday.
>
so generally the cap iron controls the depth of blade. Since the notch
for the blade height on the no 7 is cap iron. Move it closer to the edge
of the blade., if not, if the blade is that long, they have given you
many , many years of sharpening. Which blade did you get, O1, A1, or PMV11?
--
Jeff
Dr. Deb wrote:
>
> I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best
> shape"
> shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee Valley.
> The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with
> the blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in
the
> plane.
>
> First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>
> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the
> blade
> to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half
> way off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the nut.
>
> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
>
> Deb
Final, followup.
I called Lee Valley. Their only answer was to sent the cap iron back for a
refund. It seems Vertias only makes one cap iron, which takes us to the Lie
Neilson link and a custom cap iron. EXCEPT for the fact that the original
cap iron does a great job ! I am pulling gossimer thin shavings and it just
does not get better than that, at least, not in my shop. :-)
Thanks for all the imput.
Deb
Deb
On 4/12/2013 7:46 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2013 6:20 PM, Dr. Deb wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Stanley No 7 from Ebay and the blade was "Not in the best
>>> shape"
>>> shall we say. So. I ordered a Veritas blade and cap iron from Lee
>>> Valley.
>>> The cap iron was back ordered and I just got it today. I paired it with
>>> the blade and gave myself a 32nd inch blade exposure and mounted it in
>>> the plane.
>>>
>>> First the good news is, it makes wonderful shavings.
>>>
>>> The bad news is, I have to adjust the screw all the way out to get the
>>> blade
>>> to engage. By "all the way out" I mean that the adjusting knob is half
>>> way off the screw and the wishbone is almost out of the groove in the
>>> nut.
>>>
>>> So, is this normal or is there something I am not doing?
>>>
>>> Deb
>>>
>>
>>
>> What does Lee Valley say?
>
>
> They were closed by the time I got the cap from UPS and installed. But I
> will call them Monday.
>
It certainly does not sound right.