Rob H. <[email protected]> writes:
>I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
2951 Tubing Bender
Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
2947 - A tap for a wine barrel
2949 - Pipe thread cleaner
2950 - Big ass bullet
2951 - Tubing bender
The Other J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:kuldvg$4vc
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> I don't know enough to refute you, but the crucibles I saw when I
> googled, have thinner walls. The diameter of the hole appears to be
> about 60mm.
'Makes no sense to spend all your fuel heating the crucible, and hardly any
heating the contents!
Lloyd
"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...
I need some help with the fifth one this week:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Rob
2948 Tool for grinding and finish of motor valves. WW
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>
Just a wild guess:
2950
I think this could be a foundryman's crucible for metal. The marks around
the periphery tally with the use of tongs in handling.
I don't think it's ordnance. It appears to be cast. Cast is relatively
brittle. If it were a shell head, why would there be casting marks on the
base? What would prevent it shattering in the barrel of a gun, especially if
it were packed with explosive material?
Could be a mould for something such as 44mm shell heads, if such a thing
exists.
I'm not much into ordnance.
Nick.
On 8/15/2013 6:18 AM, Larry wrote:
> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 2947 - A tap for a wine barrel
> 2949 - Pipe thread cleaner
> 2950 - Big ass bullet
> 2951 - Tubing bender
2951 -- _VERY_ small tubing if so; I think it's intended for wire instead...
--
In article <[email protected]>, Larry says...
>
>Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>2947 - A tap for a wine barrel
You're on the right track here
>2950 - Big ass bullet
Yes
>2951 - Tubing bender
I think this is most likely right
>2947: If it weren't for the valve(?) in the middle, I'd say a left-handed
corkscrew (unless the image was flipped... then right handed) Maybe for
relieving gas from a barrel? Or installing a tap?
Yes, I flipped it, didn't think about the fact it would change the threads in
the image.
>50: An artillery shell
>
>51: Tubing bender. May be a sparkless type for fuel lines, given that it looks
like bronze bronze
As mentioned previously, these are probably right
>52: rescue tool
Correct
Rob H. wrote:
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>> 2952 Fire Dept. entry tool.
>
> The web site for this tool says it's for military and law enforcement
> but I would
> agree it could be for fire departments also.
I was a fireman for a lot of years and never saw anything like this, either
in real life or in a fire museum. But - that doesn't mean much. What kind
of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It just does not strike my eye as
anything I could see as useful in a fire.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 8/15/13 4:01 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2950: The M256 is a smoothbore gun used on the US M1 and M1A1 tanks.
The bore is 4.7". It's a version of the German Rheinmetall L/44,
meaning the barrel is 44 calibers long. I wonder if this could be a
practice round, dug out of a berm at a target range.
>>> 2952 Fire Dept. entry tool.
>>
>> The web site for this tool says it's for military and law enforcement
>> but I would
>> agree it could be for fire departments also.
>
>I was a fireman for a lot of years and never saw anything like this, either
>in real life or in a fire museum. But - that doesn't mean much. What kind
>of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It just does not strike my eye as
>anything I could see as useful in a fire.
Well, maybe it's not useful for firemen, I just thought it could be used to
smash or pry open stuck doors and windows, looks like a general purpose rescue
tool.
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>>> 2952 Fire Dept. entry tool.
>>>
>>> The web site for this tool says it's for
>>> military and law enforcement
>>> but I would
>>> agree it could be for fire departments also.
>>
>>I was a fireman for a lot of years and never saw
>>anything like this, either
>>in real life or in a fire museum. But - that
>>doesn't mean much. What kind
>>of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It
>>just does not strike my eye as
>>anything I could see as useful in a fire.
>
>
> Well, maybe it's not useful for firemen, I just
> thought it could be used to
> smash or pry open stuck doors and windows, looks
> like a general purpose rescue
> tool.
>
Oh it's a very useful tool for firefighting! It's
called a Halligan Bar...
>2947) Looks like a tap for an old wooden beer keg.
>
> Is the photo reversed, or is that a left-handed thread on
> it?
Good eye, you're right about it being reversed, I'll have to stop doing that
with threaded items.
>2948) The shape and the behavior suggest that it is a tool for
> lapping automotive engine valves into the head. You put
> some valve grinding compound under the lip of the valve, with a
> light spring under it, crank for a while, pull back to let the
> compound run back in, and repeat until you get a full seal
> surface.
>
> I think that you had another of these some time back.
Valve lapping tool is correct.
>2950) Looks like the projectile part of a round for perhaps a
> howitzer. If that 4-1/2" is precise, that would make it just
> below 115mm -- but I think that 110 mm is a more standard size
> for such, which would be about 4.330", or 4-21/64".
>
> The hollow base would likely be stuffed with an explosive
> charge and some delay fuse.
I really can't say how accurate the measurement is, someone sent me the photos
and dimensions.
>2951) This tool is for bending either tubing, or wire of a given
> diameter, and to form either of two different radiuses.
>
> I think the groove in the larger one is a bit wider, appropriate
> for a larger diameter tubing. Not always used for a full 180
> degree bend, but that would be the maximum, and probably a 90
> degree bend would be more common.
>
> Since it appears to be bronze, not steel, it is probably for
> use around flamable gasses -- Hydrogen, or others.
The owner said it was made of brass, and the seller thought it was a spring
winder, though I would bet on tube bender.
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>2950: The M256 is a smoothbore gun used on the US M1 and M1A1 tanks.
>The bore is 4.7". It's a version of the German Rheinmetall L/44,
>meaning the barrel is 44 calibers long. I wonder if this could be a
>practice round, dug out of a berm at a target range.
I don't know much about this one so I sent the photos to a person who runs a
military blog, hopefully he will provide a good reference for it.
>I was a fireman for a lot of years and never saw anything like this, either
>in real life or in a fire museum. But - that doesn't mean much. What kind
>of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It just does not strike my eye as
>anything I could see as useful in a fire.
>
Just took a closer look at the web site, they say it was "designed by the
Swedish
Hostage Rescue Team to improve and increase the breaching and entry options used
by law enforcement and military agencies." So it looks like you are correct
about
it not being for firemen. It's available here:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/5-11-tactical-c6-hammer-pry-entry-tool.html
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >I was a fireman for a lot of years and never
> >saw anything like this, either
>>in real life or in a fire museum. But - that
>>doesn't mean much. What kind
>>of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It
>>just does not strike my eye as
>>anything I could see as useful in a fire.
>>
>
>
> Just took a closer look at the web site, they
> say it was "designed by the
> Swedish
> Hostage Rescue Team to improve and increase the
> breaching and entry options used
> by law enforcement and military agencies." So it
> looks like you are correct
> about
> it not being for firemen. It's available here:
>
> http://www.opticsplanet.com/5-11-tactical-c6-hammer-pry-entry-tool.html
>
Here's another link to this tool:
http://kk.org/cooltools/archives/3594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7RPVoTd1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7RPVoTd1E
Firemen definately use this bar!
BTW, got lots of hits for 'halligan bar' .... ;>)}
Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2947 - Wine tap?
2948 - Valve lapping/grinding tool
2949 -
2950 - 4.5" shell for large gun.
2951 - Tubing bender.
2952 - C6 multi sledge, another of a long line of "improved entry tools"
made for police/fire use.
--
Steve W.
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>> 2952 Fire Dept. entry tool.
>> The web site for this tool says it's for military and law enforcement
>> but I would
>> agree it could be for fire departments also.
>
> I was a fireman for a lot of years and never saw anything like this, either
> in real life or in a fire museum. But - that doesn't mean much. What kind
> of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It just does not strike my eye as
> anything I could see as useful in a fire.
>
It's another "improved" tool. C^ multi sledge. Seen it at the Chiefs
Show this year. Just one more entry tool that "takes the place of
multiple tools"
--
Steve W.
Phil Kangas wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>>> 2952 Fire Dept. entry tool.
>>>>
>>>> The web site for this tool says it's for
>>>> military and law enforcement
>>>> but I would
>>>> agree it could be for fire departments also.
>>>
>>> I was a fireman for a lot of years and never saw
>>> anything like this, either
>>> in real life or in a fire museum. But - that
>>> doesn't mean much. What kind
>>> of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It
>>> just does not strike my eye as
>>> anything I could see as useful in a fire.
>>
>>
>> Well, maybe it's not useful for firemen, I just
>> thought it could be used to
>> smash or pry open stuck doors and windows, looks
>> like a general purpose rescue
>> tool.
>>
>
> Oh it's a very useful tool for firefighting! It's
> called a Halligan Bar...
Oh crap! Forget my earlier post. I looked at the wrong damned picture. No
wonder it didn't look like anything I'd seen or would expect to see in
firefighting. Damn...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Rob H. wrote:
>> I was a fireman for a lot of years and never saw anything like this,
>> either in real life or in a fire museum. But - that doesn't mean
>> much. What kind of fireman's tool is this supposed to be? It just
>> does not strike my eye as anything I could see as useful in a fire.
>>
>
>
> Just took a closer look at the web site, they say it was "designed by
> the Swedish
> Hostage Rescue Team to improve and increase the breaching and entry
> options used by law enforcement and military agencies." So it looks
> like you are correct about
> it not being for firemen. It's available here:
>
> http://www.opticsplanet.com/5-11-tactical-c6-hammer-pry-entry-tool.html
As I said in a different follow up to this thread - I screwed up. My
apologies. I looked at the wrong picture. Though this is different from a
traditional Haligan Tool (Bar), it's close enough for the money.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Mike Marlow" <
> wrote in message
>>> I was a fireman for a lot of years and never
>>> saw anything like this,
>>> either in real life or in a fire museum.
>>> But - that doesn't mean
>>> much. What kind of fireman's tool is this
>>> supposed to be? It just
>>> does not strike my eye as anything I could see
>>> as useful in a fire.
>>>
>>
>>
>
> As I said in a different follow up to this
> thread - I screwed up. My apologies. I looked
> at the wrong picture. Though this is different
> from a traditional Halligan Tool (Bar), it's
> close enough for the money.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
That's ok, Mike, you're off the hook. Carry on
man! ;>)}
On 8/16/13 9:32 AM, Nick wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>>
> Just a wild guess:
> 2950
> I think this could be a foundryman's crucible for metal. The marks around
> the periphery tally with the use of tongs in handling.
> I don't think it's ordnance. It appears to be cast. Cast is relatively
> brittle. If it were a shell head, why would there be casting marks on the
> base? What would prevent it shattering in the barrel of a gun, especially if
> it were packed with explosive material?
> Could be a mould for something such as 44mm shell heads, if such a thing
> exists.
> I'm not much into ordnance.
> Nick.
>
>
I don't know enough to refute you, but the crucibles I saw when I
googled, have thinner walls. The diameter of the hole appears to be
about 60mm.
>That's a very common answer, but shouldn't there be a hole somewhere to let the
beer through? I would have expected a series of small ports between the threads.
I think there is a hole on the other side near the tip of the screw, I should
have taken some more photos but was in a hurry at the time and just took a
couple of shots.
The person at the military blog agreed that 2950 was a projectile but hasn't yet
given more information about it.
My answers for this week have been posted here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/08/set-506.html#answers
Rob
DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2013-08-15, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always (for all you
> seeing this in other newsgroups).
>
> 2947) Looks like a tap for an old wooden beer keg.
>
> Is the photo reversed, or is that a left-handed thread on
> it?
>
> 2948) The shape and the behavior suggest that it is a tool for
> lapping automotive engine valves into the head. You put
> some valve grinding compound under the lip of the valve, with a
> light spring under it, crank for a while, pull back to let the
> compound run back in, and repeat until you get a full seal
> surface.
>
> I think that you had another of these some time back.
>
> 2949) The eye looks a bit thin for hanging it by, so I think that
> it is to clamp the moving part onto a rod going through the 'V'.
>
> The cross bolt is to attach it to some larger structure.
>
> But exactly what is being built with the clamped rods I don't
> know.
>
> 2950) Looks like the projectile part of a round for perhaps a
> howitzer. If that 4-1/2" is precise, that would make it just
> below 115mm -- but I think that 110 mm is a more standard size
> for such, which would be about 4.330", or 4-21/64".
>
> The hollow base would likely be stuffed with an explosive
> charge and some delay fuse.
>
> 2951) This tool is for bending either tubing, or wire of a given
> diameter, and to form either of two different radiuses.
>
> I think the groove in the larger one is a bit wider, appropriate
> for a larger diameter tubing. Not always used for a full 180
> degree bend, but that would be the maximum, and probably a 90
> degree bend would be more common.
>
> Since it appears to be bronze, not steel, it is probably for
> use around flamable gasses -- Hydrogen, or others.
>
> 2962) This looks like a tool for deconstructing (destroying) wood frame
> buildings, or partially so -- such as removing interior walls
> during remodeling.
>
> Perhaps a tool for use by firefighters, as you have frequent
> things related to that field.
>
> Now to post this and then see what others have suggested.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
2962 - I recognized that pry bar end, but the other end was different.
We called it a Halligan tool and it was carried in the trunk of a police
car. The other end had a 90 degree spike for cutting holes in things.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @
willshak wrote:
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2013-08-15, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always (for all you
>> seeing this in other newsgroups).
>>
>> 2947) Looks like a tap for an old wooden beer keg.
>>
>> Is the photo reversed, or is that a left-handed thread on
>> it?
>>
>> 2948) The shape and the behavior suggest that it is a tool for
>> lapping automotive engine valves into the head. You put
>> some valve grinding compound under the lip of the valve, with a
>> light spring under it, crank for a while, pull back to let the
>> compound run back in, and repeat until you get a full seal
>> surface.
>>
>> I think that you had another of these some time back.
>>
>> 2949) The eye looks a bit thin for hanging it by, so I think that
>> it is to clamp the moving part onto a rod going through the 'V'.
>>
>> The cross bolt is to attach it to some larger structure.
>>
>> But exactly what is being built with the clamped rods I don't
>> know.
>>
>> 2950) Looks like the projectile part of a round for perhaps a
>> howitzer. If that 4-1/2" is precise, that would make it just
>> below 115mm -- but I think that 110 mm is a more standard size
>> for such, which would be about 4.330", or 4-21/64".
>>
>> The hollow base would likely be stuffed with an explosive
>> charge and some delay fuse.
>>
>> 2951) This tool is for bending either tubing, or wire of a given
>> diameter, and to form either of two different radiuses.
>>
>> I think the groove in the larger one is a bit wider, appropriate
>> for a larger diameter tubing. Not always used for a full 180
>> degree bend, but that would be the maximum, and probably a 90
>> degree bend would be more common.
>>
>> Since it appears to be bronze, not steel, it is probably for
>> use around flamable gasses -- Hydrogen, or others.
>>
>> 2962) This looks like a tool for deconstructing (destroying) wood
>> frame
>> buildings, or partially so -- such as removing interior walls
>> during remodeling.
>>
>> Perhaps a tool for use by firefighters, as you have frequent
>> things related to that field.
>>
>> Now to post this and then see what others have suggested.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> DoN.
>>
>
>
> 2962 - I recognized that pry bar end, but the other end was different.
> We called it a Halligan tool and it was carried in the trunk of a police
> car. The other end had a 90 degree spike for cutting holes in things.
>
I shoulda said 'punching' holes in things. Mostly used to getting into
locked car doors to rescue people. This was before the Jaws-of-life tool
was invented.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @
willshak wrote:
>
> I shoulda said 'punching' holes in things. Mostly used to getting into
> locked car doors to rescue people. This was before the Jaws-of-life
> tool was invented.
Cops... sheesh! Us firemen used to just use a machinist's punch to take out
a window. Lots easier, faster, etc.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Mike Marlow wrote:
> willshak wrote:
>
>> I shoulda said 'punching' holes in things. Mostly used to getting into
>> locked car doors to rescue people. This was before the Jaws-of-life
>> tool was invented.
>
> Cops... sheesh! Us firemen used to just use a machinist's punch to take out
> a window. Lots easier, faster, etc.
>
Yeah, but that was when the average motorist would fit through the
window opening ..... I carry a res-q-me, basically a window punch and
seat belt cutter you attach to a key ring. Easier than the larger
punches and doesn't need a holster to protect your turn out pockets.
As for the tool shown, It might work good for breaching doors and walls
in a structure.
--
Steve W.
Steve W. wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> willshak wrote:
>>
>>> I shoulda said 'punching' holes in things. Mostly used to getting
>>> into locked car doors to rescue people. This was before the
>>> Jaws-of-life tool was invented.
>>
>> Cops... sheesh! Us firemen used to just use a machinist's punch to
>> take out a window. Lots easier, faster, etc.
>>
>
> Yeah, but that was when the average motorist would fit through the
> window opening ..... I carry a res-q-me, basically a window punch
> and seat belt cutter you attach to a key ring. Easier than the larger
> punches and doesn't need a holster to protect your turn out pockets.
>
We used to use (everyone carried...) the spring loaded machinists punch.
Just put it up agains the window and push. Smaller than a pencil, and very
effective.
> As for the tool shown, It might work good for breaching doors and
> walls in a structure.
Yup.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Steve W. wrote:
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> willshak wrote:
>>>
>>>> I shoulda said 'punching' holes in things. Mostly used to getting
>>>> into locked car doors to rescue people. This was before the
>>>> Jaws-of-life tool was invented.
>>> Cops... sheesh! Us firemen used to just use a machinist's punch to
>>> take out a window. Lots easier, faster, etc.
>>>
>> Yeah, but that was when the average motorist would fit through the
>> window opening ..... I carry a res-q-me, basically a window punch
>> and seat belt cutter you attach to a key ring. Easier than the larger
>> punches and doesn't need a holster to protect your turn out pockets.
>>
>
> We used to use (everyone carried...) the spring loaded machinists punch.
> Just put it up agains the window and push. Smaller than a pencil, and very
> effective.
Still have them on most of the rigs. The keyring unit is basically a
small punch and razor combo. Works great and self shielded so you don't
stab yourself through a pocket.
>
>> As for the tool shown, It might work good for breaching doors and
>> walls in a structure.
>
> Yup.
>
My dept. is currently waiting on red tape to find out if we are eligible
for money to repair/replace rigs that went swimming during the floods in
this area. One vehicle has already been totaled out, waiting to see if
the two engines survive the rehab...
--
Steve W.
>BTW When you need help with answers to some, could you please
> include the number(s) (e.g. 2433) instead of saying "the fifth
> from the top" or "the second and fifth"? Given how far apart
> you space them (at least as seen on my browser), it is easy to
> lose count when scrolling down from the top -- especially if the
> scrolling is somewhat jerky, which can cause me to skip over one
> or two..
>
> Thanks,
> DoN.
Yes I can do that, no problem.
Steve W. wrote:
>
> My dept. is currently waiting on red tape to find out if we are
> eligible for money to repair/replace rigs that went swimming during
> the floods in this area. One vehicle has already been totaled out,
> waiting to see if the two engines survive the rehab...
Ugh! Good thing you don't really need those trucks, huh?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Steve W. wrote:
>
>> My dept. is currently waiting on red tape to find out if we are
>> eligible for money to repair/replace rigs that went swimming during
>> the floods in this area. One vehicle has already been totaled out,
>> waiting to see if the two engines survive the rehab...
>
> Ugh! Good thing you don't really need those trucks, huh?
>
Yeah, Lot's of fun. FEMA says " Wait, don't clean them up till WE can
get there to look at them", The insurance company is screaming that we
should have started cleaning the second we could get to them....
They both showed up last week. The main flooding was June 28 - 30th,
then a few days of waiting to get a road we could even get to the
station on... Figure we had them in an accessible area by the 7th of July.
Won't break my heart if the one is scrapped out, it's a 85 LaFrance on a
Ford chassis. 2 stage pump that hasn't worked right for a LONG time...
--
Steve W.
Steve W. wrote:
>
> Yeah, Lot's of fun. FEMA says " Wait, don't clean them up till WE can
> get there to look at them", The insurance company is screaming that we
> should have started cleaning the second we could get to them....
>
> They both showed up last week. The main flooding was June 28 - 30th,
> then a few days of waiting to get a road we could even get to the
> station on... Figure we had them in an accessible area by the 7th of
> July.
> Won't break my heart if the one is scrapped out, it's a 85 LaFrance
> on a Ford chassis. 2 stage pump that hasn't worked right for a LONG
> time...
Where are you located Steve? Cannot blame you for wanting out from
underneath the LaFrance. Great trucks, but their time has come and gone.
Even the most rural company needs something much better than that today.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Steve W. wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Lot's of fun. FEMA says " Wait, don't clean them up till WE can
>> get there to look at them", The insurance company is screaming that we
>> should have started cleaning the second we could get to them....
>>
>> They both showed up last week. The main flooding was June 28 - 30th,
>> then a few days of waiting to get a road we could even get to the
>> station on... Figure we had them in an accessible area by the 7th of
>> July.
>> Won't break my heart if the one is scrapped out, it's a 85 LaFrance
>> on a Ford chassis. 2 stage pump that hasn't worked right for a LONG
>> time...
>
> Where are you located Steve? Cannot blame you for wanting out from
> underneath the LaFrance. Great trucks, but their time has come and gone.
> Even the most rural company needs something much better than that today.
>
Well according to FEMA we are located just outside nowhere....
BUT we are in the South-East corner of Herkimer County in NY state.
We also have a 75 ALF, 2000 pump built as a tower supply rig. Detroit
powered but try finding the rest of the ALF specific parts !!! Still
pumps good but I modified the transfer valve in that one so it can't
move, strictly a volume pump since we have no real need of high
pressures in a supply rig.
I'd love a newer rig with manual controls, Maybe electronic flow meters
as long as they don't control anything. I HATE the new computer crap,
just one more thing that can fail at the worst time.
--
Steve W.
Steve W. wrote:
>
> Well according to FEMA we are located just outside nowhere....
> BUT we are in the South-East corner of Herkimer County in NY state.
Ok - just down the road from me. You guys got swamped! Unbelievable that
FEMA ignored you guys!
>
>
> We also have a 75 ALF, 2000 pump built as a tower supply rig. Detroit
> powered but try finding the rest of the ALF specific parts !!! Still
> pumps good but I modified the transfer valve in that one so it can't
> move, strictly a volume pump since we have no real need of high
> pressures in a supply rig.
>
> I'd love a newer rig with manual controls, Maybe electronic flow
> meters as long as they don't control anything. I HATE the new
> computer crap, just one more thing that can fail at the worst time.
I've been out of fire service and EMS for a lot of years now, but back when
I was in, my last fire company was in my current home town - a very small
company in Oswego county. I secured a refer truck for the company, got a
local gravel company to use their truck repair capabilities to cut off the
refer, and mount a 2000 gallon tank on the chassis for us, and then brought
the thing up to the station to do the rest of the work. Fabbed and
installed a 12" pneumatic dump in the rear and some other utility type stuff
like racks to hold a porta-pond, etc., wired in emergency lights, radios,
shore-line, etc. It had a 3208 Cat in it with a split shift, so only a
handful of guys could be certified to operate it, which is all the better
with an unbaffled tank. After I left, they eventually added a side dump to
it which I always thought was a good idea, but had never done myself.
If you find yourself out in the Syracuse area, give a yell. Email me and
I'll give you my cell number.
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On 2013-08-15, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the fifth one this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always (for all you
seeing this in other newsgroups).
2947) Looks like a tap for an old wooden beer keg.
Is the photo reversed, or is that a left-handed thread on
it?
2948) The shape and the behavior suggest that it is a tool for
lapping automotive engine valves into the head. You put
some valve grinding compound under the lip of the valve, with a
light spring under it, crank for a while, pull back to let the
compound run back in, and repeat until you get a full seal
surface.
I think that you had another of these some time back.
2949) The eye looks a bit thin for hanging it by, so I think that
it is to clamp the moving part onto a rod going through the 'V'.
The cross bolt is to attach it to some larger structure.
But exactly what is being built with the clamped rods I don't
know.
2950) Looks like the projectile part of a round for perhaps a
howitzer. If that 4-1/2" is precise, that would make it just
below 115mm -- but I think that 110 mm is a more standard size
for such, which would be about 4.330", or 4-21/64".
The hollow base would likely be stuffed with an explosive
charge and some delay fuse.
2951) This tool is for bending either tubing, or wire of a given
diameter, and to form either of two different radiuses.
I think the groove in the larger one is a bit wider, appropriate
for a larger diameter tubing. Not always used for a full 180
degree bend, but that would be the maximum, and probably a 90
degree bend would be more common.
Since it appears to be bronze, not steel, it is probably for
use around flamable gasses -- Hydrogen, or others.
2962) This looks like a tool for deconstructing (destroying) wood frame
buildings, or partially so -- such as removing interior walls
during remodeling.
Perhaps a tool for use by firefighters, as you have frequent
things related to that field.
Now to post this and then see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2013-08-15, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>2947) Looks like a tap for an old wooden beer keg.
>>
>> Is the photo reversed, or is that a left-handed thread on
>> it?
>
>
>
> Good eye, you're right about it being reversed, I'll have to stop doing that
> with threaded items.
At least with the posting to Rec.crafts.metalworking. Most
people here will have a pretty good eye for handedness on threads. :-)
Probably the woodworkers, too, though I think that left-handed wood
screws are pretty uncommon. :-)
[ ... ]
>>2950) Looks like the projectile part of a round for perhaps a
>> howitzer. If that 4-1/2" is precise, that would make it just
>> below 115mm -- but I think that 110 mm is a more standard size
>> for such, which would be about 4.330", or 4-21/64".
>>
>> The hollow base would likely be stuffed with an explosive
>> charge and some delay fuse.
>
>
>
> I really can't say how accurate the measurement is, someone sent me the photos
> and dimensions.
And they probably used a desk ruler or a tape measure, so
getting a reading that accurate would be pretty unlikely. :-)
>>2951) This tool is for bending either tubing, or wire of a given
>> diameter, and to form either of two different radiuses.
>>
>> I think the groove in the larger one is a bit wider, appropriate
>> for a larger diameter tubing. Not always used for a full 180
>> degree bend, but that would be the maximum, and probably a 90
>> degree bend would be more common.
>>
>> Since it appears to be bronze, not steel, it is probably for
>> use around flamable gasses -- Hydrogen, or others.
>
>
>
>
> The owner said it was made of brass, and the seller thought it was a spring
> winder, though I would bet on tube bender.
Well ... brass and bronze look very much alike, especially when
clean. They develop somewhat different patinas, but the real thing is
strength. A tool should be bronze, not brass, and I would be willing to
bet that this one is bronze. If anyone could track down the logo on the
handle it would probably show up listed as bronze -- maybe phosphor
bronze, or maybe even Berylium Copper.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2013-08-16, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>That's a very common answer, but shouldn't there be a hole somewhere to let the
> beer through? I would have expected a series of small ports between the threads.
>
>
> I think there is a hole on the other side near the tip of the screw, I should
> have taken some more photos but was in a hurry at the time and just took a
> couple of shots.
>
> The person at the military blog agreed that 2950 was a projectile but hasn't yet
> given more information about it.
BTW When you need help with answers to some, could you please
include the number(s) (e.g. 2433) instead of saying "the fifth
from the top" or "the second and fifth"? Given how far apart
you space them (at least as seen on my browser), it is easy to
lose count when scrolling down from the top -- especially if the
scrolling is somewhat jerky, which can cause me to skip over one
or two..
Thanks,
DoN.
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> 2949 looks more like a line tap for hooking onto a high tension line .
I'll second this - electrical line clamp / grounding clamp.
A live-line switch-stick tool connects to the loop -
- to tighten / loosen the jaws over the line conductor or stirrup -
- the grounding / connecting lead wire is attached via the hex nut.
John T.
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 2947 - A tap for a wine barrel
> 2949 - Pipe thread cleaner
> 2950 - Big ass bullet
> 2951 - Tubing bender
2949 looks more like a line tap for hooking onto a high tension line .
2948 is for seating valves in an IC engine . 2951 might befor tubing ,
though it's pretty small , I think more like wire maybe .
-- 2950 might be a bullet , but not likely if it's made of steel/iron as it
appears . Maybe a form for crucibles ?
Snag