Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

18/09/2013 1:22 PM

Finishing "Hardwood" floor

Last weekend I sanded out and stained a 100+ year old straight grain Fir fl=
oor in a room about 12 x 12. I have some water based satin poly to lay down=
this weekend. Everything I read says use a pad. At Home Depot the best I c=
ould find was a 7" wide pad with a holder than can be attached to a typical=
roller pole. It has foam as a base like a typical foam brush which is cove=
red by about 1\4" thick pad of a micro fiber type material.

Anyone have experience doing this? Does this sound like the right equipment=
?=20

It says can be recoated in 2 hours but no more than 2 coats a day. I am fig=
uring 2 coats on Saturday and another one or two on Sunday but I think I ne=
ed to scuff it before the Sunday coats which I am not looking forward to. P=
robably have to do that on my knees although I thought maybe using my drywa=
ll pole sander if I can find a fine enough grit.


This topic has 9 replies

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

20/09/2013 10:39 AM


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> Fir is not hardwood. I get a laugh from some TV shows where real estate=
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> agents take people around to look at houses. The dumb agent was telling h=
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> client that the house had pine hardwood floors.

Yup, Fir is not a Hardwood. This is why I have "Hardwood" in quotes in the =
heading because calling it a Hardwood floor is much easier than saying "I h=
ave slats of straight grain Fir laid down on the floor of a house from wall=
to wall butted against each other and nailed down then sanded flat.

Also, Hardwood is really about the type of tree, broadleaf vs conifer and u=
sually denotes something about actual hardness but Southern White Pine is p=
retty fricken hard (I am told) and I know Poplar is nearly as soft as Pine =
but is indeed a hardwood.

En

"EXT"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

20/09/2013 11:37 AM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Last weekend I sanded out and stained a 100+ year old straight grain Fir
> floor in a room about 12 x 12. I have some water based satin poly to lay
> down this weekend. Everything I read says use a pad. At Home Depot the
> best I could find was a 7" wide pad with a holder than can be attached to
> a typical roller pole. It has foam as a base like a typical foam brush
> which is covered by about 1\4" thick pad of a micro fiber type material.
>
> Anyone have experience doing this? Does this sound like the right
> equipment?
>
> It says can be recoated in 2 hours but no more than 2 coats a day. I am
> figuring 2 coats on Saturday and another one or two on Sunday but I think
> I need to scuff it before the Sunday coats which I am not looking forward
> to. Probably have to do that on my knees although I thought maybe using my
> drywall pole sander if I can find a fine enough grit.
>

Fir is not hardwood. I get a laugh from some TV shows where real estate
agents take people around to look at houses. The dumb agent was telling her
client that the house had pine hardwood floors.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

23/09/2013 11:29 AM

On Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:27:45 AM UTC-7, Leon wrote:
> On 9/20/2013 12:39 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
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> >> Fir is not hardwood. I get a laugh from some TV shows where real estat=
e
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> >>
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> >> agents take people around to look at houses. The dumb agent was tellin=
g her
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> >>
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> >> client that the house had pine hardwood floors.
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> >
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> > Yup, Fir is not a Hardwood. This is why I have "Hardwood" in quotes in =
the heading because calling it a Hardwood floor is much easier than saying =
"I have slats of straight grain Fir laid down on the floor of a house from =
wall to wall butted against each other and nailed down then sanded flat.
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> >
>=20
> > Also, Hardwood is really about the type of tree, broadleaf vs conifer a=
nd usually denotes something about actual hardness but Southern White Pine =
is pretty fricken hard (I am told) and I know Poplar is nearly as soft as P=
ine but is indeed a hardwood.
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> >
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> Southern Yellow Pine, SYP is pretty fricken hard.
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> And to add, Basla is technically, by definition, a hardwood.

That's right SYP not white pine.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

19/09/2013 7:29 PM

On 9/19/2013 4:05 PM, Morgans wrote:
>
>
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Last weekend I sanded out and stained a 100+ year old straight grain
>> Fir floor in a room about 12 x 12. I have some water based satin poly
>> to lay down this weekend. Everything I read says use a pad. At Home
>> Depot the best I could find was a 7" wide pad with a holder than can
>> be attached to a typical roller pole. It has foam as a base like a
>> typical foam brush which is covered by about 1\4" thick pad of a micro
>> fiber type material.
>>
>> Anyone have experience doing this? Does this sound like the right
>> equipment?
>>
>> It says can be recoated in 2 hours but no more than 2 coats a day. I
>> am figuring 2 coats on Saturday and another one or two on Sunday but I
>> think I need to scuff it before the Sunday coats which I am not
>> looking forward to. Probably have to do that on my knees although I
>> thought maybe using my drywall pole sander if I can find a fine enough
>> grit.
>>
> I used a lamb's wool pad. Worked well for me.
>
> Jim in NC
Same here .
I used it w/ both shellac and oil based poly
Works with both.

--
Jeff

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

23/09/2013 11:35 AM

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:22:10 PM UTC-7, SonomaProducts.com wrote=
:
> Last weekend I sanded out and stained a 100+ year old straight grain Fir =
floor in a room about 12 x 12. I have some water based satin poly to lay do=
wn this weekend. Everything I read says use a pad. At Home Depot the best I=
could find was a 7" wide pad with a holder than can be attached to a typic=
al roller pole. It has foam as a base like a typical foam brush which is co=
vered by about 1\4" thick pad of a micro fiber type material.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Anyone have experience doing this? Does this sound like the right equipme=
nt?=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> It says can be recoated in 2 hours but no more than 2 coats a day. I am f=
iguring 2 coats on Saturday and another one or two on Sunday but I think I =
need to scuff it before the Sunday coats which I am not looking forward to.=
Probably have to do that on my knees although I thought maybe using my dry=
wall pole sander if I can find a fine enough grit.


Follow\Update.

I used Rustoleum Pro Finisher water based polyurethane from Home Depot. Use=
d the 7" wide micro fiber applicator screwed onto a pole. The applicator ha=
d a little hinge to it so it made it real easy to use.

The finish was great top work with. No smell, I just washed it on and kind =
of scrubbed it in then did a smooth pass to flatten and even it out. Stayed=
totally open so you could rework for a few minutes in the same spot no pro=
b. I had 2 1/2" wide flooring and did 6 slats at a time about a 3 foot sect=
ion per dip in the pan. Did two coats of satin and it looks great.

No idea how durable but actually not too worried as it is a distressed look=
anyway with 100+ years of "character" anyway.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

18/09/2013 6:58 PM

"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Last weekend I sanded out and stained a 100+ year old
> straight grain Fir floor in a room about 12 x 12. I have
> some water based satin poly to lay down this weekend.
> Everything I read says use a pad. At Home Depot the best
> I could find was a 7" wide pad with a holder than can be
> attached to a typical roller pole. It has foam as a base
> like a typical foam brush which is covered by about 1\4"
> thick pad of a micro fiber type material.
>
> Anyone have experience doing this? Does this sound like
> the right equipment?

I've used similar but not on floors. Mine is covered with a material sort
of like plush?mohair/velvet...vertical fibers maybe 3/16 long, close
together but not densly so. It works well.

There are similar commercial devices that are much wider.

--

dadiOH
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"Morgans"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

19/09/2013 4:05 PM



"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Last weekend I sanded out and stained a 100+ year old straight grain Fir
> floor in a room about 12 x 12. I have some water based satin poly to lay
> down this weekend. Everything I read says use a pad. At Home Depot the
> best I could find was a 7" wide pad with a holder than can be attached to
> a typical roller pole. It has foam as a base like a typical foam brush
> which is covered by about 1\4" thick pad of a micro fiber type material.
>
> Anyone have experience doing this? Does this sound like the right
> equipment?
>
> It says can be recoated in 2 hours but no more than 2 coats a day. I am
> figuring 2 coats on Saturday and another one or two on Sunday but I think
> I need to scuff it before the Sunday coats which I am not looking forward
> to. Probably have to do that on my knees although I thought maybe using my
> drywall pole sander if I can find a fine enough grit.
>
I used a lamb's wool pad. Worked well for me.

Jim in NC

k

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

20/09/2013 11:22 PM

On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>
>> Fir is not hardwood. I get a laugh from some TV shows where real estate
>>
>> agents take people around to look at houses. The dumb agent was telling her
>>
>> client that the house had pine hardwood floors.
>
>Yup, Fir is not a Hardwood. This is why I have "Hardwood" in quotes in the heading because calling it a Hardwood floor is much easier than saying "I have slats of straight grain Fir laid down on the floor of a house from wall to wall butted against each other and nailed down then sanded flat.
>
>Also, Hardwood is really about the type of tree, broadleaf vs conifer and usually denotes something about actual hardness but Southern White Pine is pretty fricken hard (I am told) and I know Poplar is nearly as soft as Pine but is indeed a hardwood.

...as is Balsa (a hardwood).

Ll

Leon

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 18/09/2013 1:22 PM

22/09/2013 9:27 AM

On 9/20/2013 12:39 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Fir is not hardwood. I get a laugh from some TV shows where real estate
>>
>> agents take people around to look at houses. The dumb agent was telling her
>>
>> client that the house had pine hardwood floors.
>
> Yup, Fir is not a Hardwood. This is why I have "Hardwood" in quotes in the heading because calling it a Hardwood floor is much easier than saying "I have slats of straight grain Fir laid down on the floor of a house from wall to wall butted against each other and nailed down then sanded flat.
>
> Also, Hardwood is really about the type of tree, broadleaf vs conifer and usually denotes something about actual hardness but Southern White Pine is pretty fricken hard (I am told) and I know Poplar is nearly as soft as Pine but is indeed a hardwood.
>


Southern Yellow Pine, SYP is pretty fricken hard.


And to add, Basla is technically, by definition, a hardwood.


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