Nope. Those of us with iron planers adjust roller pressure and the
chipbreaker.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That's how we ALL reduce snipe. stoutman's post recounted a different
> scenario.
>
> Dave
>
> toller wrote:
>
> > FWIW
> > I got rid of of my snipe problem by adjusting the tables.
> >
> >
It exerts the first pressure aft of the cutterhead, before even the outfeed
roller. Should have springs enough to help against unsupported boards
climbing into it. Those without springs should be close.
Best setup series for generic iron planers I ever saw was in FWW, though I
can't recall the issue. It was almost the same as my manual on the Invicta.
Quick search at the Taunton site ought to turn it.
"TheNewGuy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> George, can you elaborate on how the chipbreaker affects snipe?
>
> -Chris
>
> George wrote:
> > Nope. Those of us with iron planers adjust roller pressure and the
> > chipbreaker.
>
Sharp blades can snipe plenty if you've got a snipe-prone machine (some
brands are worse than others) or if the tables aren't adjusted properly.
I'm not sure the fact that the blades are sharp, in and of itself,
would reduce snipe one iota. Then again, maybe I'm wrong.
Dave
mac davis wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:54:30 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Besides which, the OP stated that new blades sniped less. wouldn't new
>>blades be longer than the worn ones, and thefore, proves the point,
>>because the only change in position is RELATIVE; the relative height of
>>the blades in relation to the rollers.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> they might also be sharper, right?
> would that effect snipe?
>
>
>
>>David wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The rollers are the key; they put less pressure onto the workpiece if
>>>the blades are longer than the earlier set.
>>>
>>>Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The blades are closer to the table than the old blades, by a hair?
>>>>>That would reduce, by a bit, the pressure from the rollers for the
>>>>>same depth of cut as before you changed blades. Could that explain
>>>>>the reduction in snipe for you?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Seems blades being closer to the table would increase snipe.
>>>>
>
>
>
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing
The rollers are the key; they put less pressure onto the workpiece if
the blades are longer than the earlier set.
Leon wrote:
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>The blades are closer to the table than the old blades, by a hair? That
>>would reduce, by a bit, the pressure from the rollers for the same depth
>>of cut as before you changed blades. Could that explain the reduction in
>>snipe for you?
>>
>
>
>
> Seems blades being closer to the table would increase snipe.
>
>
Stop gloating...
Dave
George wrote:
> Nope. Those of us with iron planers adjust roller pressure and the
> chipbreaker.
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>That's how we ALL reduce snipe. stoutman's post recounted a different
>>scenario.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>toller wrote:
>>
>>
>>>FWIW
>>>I got rid of of my snipe problem by adjusting the tables.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
Besides which, the OP stated that new blades sniped less. wouldn't new
blades be longer than the worn ones, and thefore, proves the point,
because the only change in position is RELATIVE; the relative height of
the blades in relation to the rollers.
Dave
David wrote:
> The rollers are the key; they put less pressure onto the workpiece if
> the blades are longer than the earlier set.
>
> Leon wrote:
>
>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> The blades are closer to the table than the old blades, by a hair?
>>> That would reduce, by a bit, the pressure from the rollers for the
>>> same depth of cut as before you changed blades. Could that explain
>>> the reduction in snipe for you?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems blades being closer to the table would increase snipe.
>>
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The blades are closer to the table than the old blades, by a hair? That
> would reduce, by a bit, the pressure from the rollers for the same depth
> of cut as before you changed blades. Could that explain the reduction in
> snipe for you?
>
Seems blades being closer to the table would increase snipe.
stoutman wrote:
> I've had my planer for about 6-months and NEVER changed the blades...ALWAYS
> had leading and trailing end snipe.
>
> Changed my blades and the snipe is 'significantly' reduced.
>
> How could that be?
>
> The only thing I can think of is that the blades were not factory set
> correctly.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
Seen the same.
Smaller bites seem to reduce snipe as well.
And feeding the board at an angle to the knives can reduce snipe.
--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek
"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I've had my planer for about 6-months and NEVER changed the
> blades...ALWAYS had leading and trailing end snipe.
>
> Changed my blades and the snipe is 'significantly' reduced.
>
> How could that be?
>
> The only thing I can think of is that the blades were not factory set
> correctly.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Blade sharpness significantly impacts how hard the machine has to work to
reduce the surface of your stock. If the stock is cut more easily, then
the forces which would cause snipe (stock moving relative to the cutter
head after the ends move across the rollers) would have less relative
effect.
Or something like that, I would think.
It's an idea. But I'm in software. Ask a hardware engineer.
And change the blades when the sound the planer makes seems to change. At
least take them out, and clean the gunk off of them. Maybe a quick hone
with some 800 grit wrapped around a chunk of maple.
Patriarch
mac davis <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> damn... another problem with living on the west coast... I've never
> even SEEN a chunk of maple.. (or cherry, mesquite, birch, etc.)
>
Lotsa big leaf maple in Norcal, Oregon & Washington. Good turning stuff.
There's a 48" log of paper birch, 15" diameter, on my driveway that a
friend rescued from the chippers when the tree trimmers were done.
I'm near Oakland, CA.
Friends are good to have. There's walnut due in this weekend.
Patriarch
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:19:19 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
Maybe it's just my area, Central Calif....
all soft wood here...
When I lived in the Bay area, especially San Carlos, there were white oaks all
over the place as street trees...
>Your kidding. I'm just outside Seattle and I cut two 50' maples out of my
>front yard.
>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> damn... another problem with living on the west coast... I've never even
>SEEN a
>> chunk of maple.. (or cherry, mesquite, birch, etc.)
>>
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Your kidding. I'm just outside Seattle and I cut two 50' maples out of my
front yard.
"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> damn... another problem with living on the west coast... I've never even
SEEN a
> chunk of maple.. (or cherry, mesquite, birch, etc.)
>
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:58:11 -0500, Patriarch <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> I've had my planer for about 6-months and NEVER changed the
>> blades...ALWAYS had leading and trailing end snipe.
>>
>> Changed my blades and the snipe is 'significantly' reduced.
>>
>> How could that be?
>>
>> The only thing I can think of is that the blades were not factory set
>> correctly.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>
>Blade sharpness significantly impacts how hard the machine has to work to
>reduce the surface of your stock. If the stock is cut more easily, then
>the forces which would cause snipe (stock moving relative to the cutter
>head after the ends move across the rollers) would have less relative
>effect.
>
>Or something like that, I would think.
>
>It's an idea. But I'm in software. Ask a hardware engineer.
>
>And change the blades when the sound the planer makes seems to change. At
>least take them out, and clean the gunk off of them. Maybe a quick hone
>with some 800 grit wrapped around a chunk of maple.
>
>Patriarch
damn... another problem with living on the west coast... I've never even SEEN a
chunk of maple.. (or cherry, mesquite, birch, etc.)
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
it is possible that the blades weren't jointed and all knives in your cutter
head weren't tangent to the outfeed table. Thus would result in the one
knife creating the snipe.
"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my planer for about 6-months and NEVER changed the
> blades...ALWAYS
> had leading and trailing end snipe.
>
> Changed my blades and the snipe is 'significantly' reduced.
>
> How could that be?
>
> The only thing I can think of is that the blades were not factory set
> correctly.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:54:30 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>Besides which, the OP stated that new blades sniped less. wouldn't new
>blades be longer than the worn ones, and thefore, proves the point,
>because the only change in position is RELATIVE; the relative height of
>the blades in relation to the rollers.
>
>Dave
they might also be sharper, right?
would that effect snipe?
>
>David wrote:
>
>> The rollers are the key; they put less pressure onto the workpiece if
>> the blades are longer than the earlier set.
>>
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> The blades are closer to the table than the old blades, by a hair?
>>>> That would reduce, by a bit, the pressure from the rollers for the
>>>> same depth of cut as before you changed blades. Could that explain
>>>> the reduction in snipe for you?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems blades being closer to the table would increase snipe.
>>>
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
I guess so. That does make sense.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The blades are closer to the table than the old blades, by a hair? That
> would reduce, by a bit, the pressure from the rollers for the same depth
> of cut as before you changed blades. Could that explain the reduction in
> snipe for you?
>
> Dave
>
> stoutman wrote:
>> I've had my planer for about 6-months and NEVER changed the
>> blades...ALWAYS
>> had leading and trailing end snipe.
>>
>> Changed my blades and the snipe is 'significantly' reduced.
>>
>> How could that be?
>>
>> The only thing I can think of is that the blades were not factory set
>> correctly.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:26:10 -0500, Patriarch <[email protected]>
wrote:
>mac davis <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
><snip>
>> damn... another problem with living on the west coast... I've never
>> even SEEN a chunk of maple.. (or cherry, mesquite, birch, etc.)
>>
>
>Lotsa big leaf maple in Norcal, Oregon & Washington. Good turning stuff.
>There's a 48" log of paper birch, 15" diameter, on my driveway that a
>friend rescued from the chippers when the tree trimmers were done.
>
>I'm near Oakland, CA.
>
>Friends are good to have. There's walnut due in this weekend.
>
>Patriarch
hmm... I'll have to beat on my kid up at Fort Lewis to find me some hardwood!
I have a garage and side yard full of logs and blanks now, but all pine, fir,
etc...
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
The blades are closer to the table than the old blades, by a hair? That
would reduce, by a bit, the pressure from the rollers for the same depth
of cut as before you changed blades. Could that explain the reduction
in snipe for you?
Dave
stoutman wrote:
> I've had my planer for about 6-months and NEVER changed the blades...ALWAYS
> had leading and trailing end snipe.
>
> Changed my blades and the snipe is 'significantly' reduced.
>
> How could that be?
>
> The only thing I can think of is that the blades were not factory set
> correctly.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>