Has anyone used laminate (for counter tops) outside? I want to do
a couple of projects for outside that don't require laminate, but it
is a huge
consideration. I'm just wondering how long it would last outdoors and
if
the glue would hold in the extreme cold of the northern states or
direct
sunlight in the summer.
Lou
"Lou" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
>> Laminate itself can handle the moisture and the heat. many can handle
>> the UV as well. Your concerns should focus on the substrate you will
>> be going to adhere to. Also, in high heat, direct sunlight, regular
>> contact cement might get soft. A PVA, like Wilsonart 3000 would be a
>> better choice, again, as long as you can seal off any water from
>> getting to the bond.
>> I think a slab of acrylic solid surface would serve you a lot better.
>
> It's funny but I was just looking at that Wilsonart 3000. I will
> probably
> be bonding to grade A exterior plywood. The reason I can't use solid
> surface is because a lot of the surfaces will be curved.
> Lou
>
Keep in mind that an exterior plywood does well out doors but that does not
mean that it will not absorb water and possibly compromise the bond
On Dec 31, 5:27=A0pm, Lou <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Laminate itself can handle the moisture and the heat. many can handle
> > the UV as well. Your concerns should focus on the substrate you will
> > be going to adhere to. Also, in high heat, direct sunlight, regular
> > contact cement might get soft. A PVA, like Wilsonart 3000 would be a
> > better choice, again, as long as you can seal off any water from
> > getting to the bond.
> > I think a slab of acrylic solid surface would serve you a lot better.
>
> It's funny but I was just looking at that Wilsonart 3000. I will
> probably
> be bonding to grade A exterior plywood. =A0The reason I can't use solid
> surface is because a lot of the surfaces will be curved.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lou
That has never stopped me.<G> 325 degrees F and you can bend and twist
that stuff like putty...assuming it is acrylic like Corian, Gibraltar,
Staron and Meganite.
Exterior plywood is okay as long as you prepare the edges.
>
> There is indeed a difference between wet and 'wet'.
> I suppose the ideal combo would be Wilsonart 3000 onto Exterra. Me
> thinks the bond would have to be submerged totally for quite a long
> time for the bond to fail. Interesting problem though.
> Laminate is used in shower and tub surrounds all the time. It is
> essentially phenolic.
Some of the stuff I'm making will be boxes and cabinets so the entire
outside
of each will be covered. The insides will only be covered with a
sealant such
as paint or poly. I then plan to either, tape of the corners caulk and
paint (match colors)
or put a plastic corner trim on each corner with caulking underneath.
Lou
>
> Laminate itself can handle the moisture and the heat. many can handle
> the UV as well. Your concerns should focus on the substrate you will
> be going to adhere to. Also, in high heat, direct sunlight, regular
> contact cement might get soft. A PVA, like Wilsonart 3000 would be a
> better choice, again, as long as you can seal off any water from
> getting to the bond.
> I think a slab of acrylic solid surface would serve you a lot better.
It's funny but I was just looking at that Wilsonart 3000. I will
probably
be bonding to grade A exterior plywood. The reason I can't use solid
surface is because a lot of the surfaces will be curved.
Lou
On Dec 31, 1:46=A0pm, Lou <[email protected]> wrote:
> Has anyone used laminate (for counter tops) outside? I want to do
> a couple of projects for outside that don't require laminate, but it
> is a huge
> consideration. I'm just wondering how long it would last outdoors and
> if
> the glue would hold in the extreme cold of the northern states or
> direct
> sunlight in the summer.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lou
Laminate itself can handle the moisture and the heat. many can handle
the UV as well. Your concerns should focus on the substrate you will
be going to adhere to. Also, in high heat, direct sunlight, regular
contact cement might get soft. A PVA, like Wilsonart 3000 would be a
better choice, again, as long as you can seal off any water from
getting to the bond.
I think a slab of acrylic solid surface would serve you a lot better.
On Dec 31, 7:36=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lou" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:aa4c3b58-0b85-4547-8049-8e1ba7ba919d@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >> Laminate itself can handle the moisture and the heat. many can handle
> >> the UV as well. Your concerns should focus on the substrate you will
> >> be going to adhere to. Also, in high heat, direct sunlight, regular
> >> contact cement might get soft. A PVA, like Wilsonart 3000 would be a
> >> better choice, again, as long as you can seal off any water from
> >> getting to the bond.
> >> I think a slab of acrylic solid surface would serve you a lot better.
>
> > It's funny but I was just looking at that Wilsonart 3000. I will
> > probably
> > be bonding to grade A exterior plywood. =A0The reason I can't use solid
> > surface is because a lot of the surfaces will be curved.
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Lou
>
> Keep in mind that an exterior plywood does well out doors but that does n=
ot
> mean that it will not absorb water and possibly compromise the bond
There is indeed a difference between wet and 'wet'.
I suppose the ideal combo would be Wilsonart 3000 onto Exterra. Me
thinks the bond would have to be submerged totally for quite a long
time for the bond to fail. Interesting problem though.
Laminate is used in shower and tub surrounds all the time. It is
essentially phenolic.