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I am curious as to what the opinion of the group is regarding using Freud /
DeWalt / Forrest Blade Stabilizers. I have researched the archives and there
doesn¹t seem to be a conclusive opinion either for or against using them. I
am not experiencing any real problems with my Delta 10² Contractor¹s Table
saw But I can always use improvements if they are worth the money
the hassle and if they really work you know not a gimmick. If I should
get them do you recommend single or double stabilizers??
Thanks in advance for your advice - it¹s appreciated.
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Joe Shea
[email protected]
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Brian.
I am not experiencing any real problems with my Delta 10" =
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DeWalts stabilizer. I did and it trashed a brand new Freud combo blade. =
While setting up my Delta cab saw for accuracy using dial indicators =
(you won't see the side effects using squares) I checked the face of the =
blade and found that it was bowed outwards or away at both ends. I =
removed the blade stabilizer and checked the flatness of the blade side =
and sure enough it was concaved ".005 at the center and reading the =
packaging confirms this DeWalt for some reason feels that this is =
approiate to control blade warpage, but I disagree especially since my =
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TO USE OR NOT TO USE - BLADE STABILIZERS???If you've got a noisy blade,
they'll quiet it a bit. You lose a bit of depth in the cut, but that's
tolerable. I've got one on mine now because it's a better washer than that
pressed crap that came with it.
"Joseph E. Shea, Jr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD2C96CD.1D30%[email protected]...
I am curious as to what the opinion of the group is regarding using Freud /
DeWalt / Forrest Blade Stabilizers. I have researched the archives and there
doesn't seem to be a conclusive opinion either for or against using them. I
am not experiencing any real problems with my Delta 10" Contractor's Table
saw - But - I can always use improvements - if they are worth the money -
the hassle and if they really work - you know - not a gimmick. If I should
get them - do you recommend single or double stabilizers??
I've got a WWII and a stabilizer. I feel using the
stabilizer is like gilding the lily. With or without it,
the cuts are great. Using it reduces the maximum depth of cut.
David
Joseph E. Shea, Jr. wrote:
> I am curious as to what the opinion of the group is regarding using
> Freud / DeWalt / Forrest Blade Stabilizers. I have researched the
> archives and there doesnt seem to be a conclusive opinion either for or
> against using them. I am not experiencing any real problems with my
> Delta 10 Contractors Table saw But I can always use improvements
> if they are worth the money the hassle and if they really work you
> know not a gimmick. If I should get them do you recommend single or
> double stabilizers??
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice - its appreciated.
> --
> Best Regards,
> Joe Shea
> [email protected]
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thought to see if anyone else has tried it. Oldham, and others, sell =
some pretty nice 8, 8-1/4 fine kerf, carbide blades for around $15-18. =
When working with 4/4 stock and blade stabilizers they do a great job of =
providing a clean cut and provide minimal kerf cut on my 10" cabinet =
saw. The stabilizers provide stiffness out to the edge of the cutting =
range. =20
This provides an economical alternative to the bigger blades for =
precision work.
Anyone else?
Ron
"Joseph E. Shea, Jr." <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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I am curious as to what the opinion of the group is regarding using =
Freud / DeWalt / Forrest Blade Stabilizers. I have researched the =
archives and there doesn't seem to be a conclusive opinion either for or =
against using them. I am not experiencing any real problems with my =
Delta 10" Contractor's Table saw - But - I can always use improvements - =
if they are worth the money - the hassle and if they really work - you =
know - not a gimmick. If I should get them - do you recommend single or =
double stabilizers??
Thanks in advance for your advice - it's appreciated.
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Best Regards,
Joe Shea
[email protected]
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=96 I can=20
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I've had a forest WWII on my Ryobi bt3000 for a few years now, cuts
like glass. When I bought the blade at a WW show, the gentleman from
forest asked the type of saw and sold me a thin kerf blade, based on
my machines' horsepower I'm sure. Also sold me a stabilizer, he said
because it smooths out the thin kerf blade. I have cut both with and
without the stabilizer with no percieved difference in cut, noise,
etc. The cut is only marginally better than the stock Ryobi blade that
came with the saw.
What amazes me is that, one day with little else to do, I measured the
arbor runout on that saw (off the edge of the blade I had verified was
FLAT) and found over .005 runout, but I STILL get glasslike cuts, both
cross and rip.
I agonized for days over buying a new saw to remedy the situation,
then finally realized it's the CUT, stoopid. Kicked myself and went
back to work.
"Joseph E. Shea, Jr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I am curious as to what the opinion of the group is regarding using Freud
/
> DeWalt / Forrest Blade Stabilizers. I have researched the archives and
there
> doesn¹t seem to be a conclusive opinion either for or against using them.
I
> am not experiencing any real problems with my Delta 10² Contractor¹s Table
> saw But I can always use improvements if they are worth the money
> the hassle and if they really work you know not a gimmick. If I should
> get them do you recommend single or double stabilizers??
I don't remember what brand of stabilizers I have, but they were the best
investment I made for my old Crapsman CS. With the stamped steel only on one
side(original), it had quite a bit of wobble in the blade. Put on a set of
stabilizers, reduced runout a *lot*, makes a much nicer saw. I do have to
remove the inner one if using a dado blade though.
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blade. I use their stabilizer and am very happy with the setup.
Jim
www.woodblog.com
"Joseph E. Shea, Jr." <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:BD2C96CD.1D30%[email protected]...
I am curious as to what the opinion of the group is regarding using =
Freud / DeWalt / Forrest Blade Stabilizers. I have researched the =
archives and there doesn't seem to be a conclusive opinion either for or =
against using them. I am not experiencing any real problems with my =
Delta 10" Contractor's Table saw - But - I can always use improvements - =
if they are worth the money - the hassle and if they really work - you =
know - not a gimmick. If I should get them - do you recommend single or =
double stabilizers??
Thanks in advance for your advice - it's appreciated.
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Joe Shea
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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"Joseph E. Shea, Jr." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<BD2C96CD.1D30%[email protected]>...
> I am curious as to what the opinion of the group is regarding using Freud /
> DeWalt / Forrest Blade Stabilizers. I have researched the archives and there
> doesn¹t seem to be a conclusive opinion either for or against using them. I
> am not experiencing any real problems with my Delta 10² Contractor¹s Table
> saw But I can always use improvements if they are worth the money
> the hassle and if they really work you know not a gimmick. If I should
> get them do you recommend single or double stabilizers??
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice - it¹s appreciated.
My 2 cents worth. I've read responses from those who use stabilizer
and think they are great. I'm using a Forrest WWII and their
stabilizer but don not see much difference betw. using and not using a
stabilizer. Probabbly if you're using a blade which may not be
balanced would make a difference. I'm always for whatever works for
you keep doing it!!!!
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Sounds like you are just looking for a gadget to buy.
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"RonB" <[email protected]> writes:
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> else has tried it. Oldham, and others, sell some pretty nice 8, 8-1/4 fine
> kerf, carbide blades for around $15-18. When working with 4/4 stock and
> blade stabilizers they do a great job of providing a clean cut and provide
How big are the flanges on the arbor? On my Metabo TS (20 years old)
the flanges have a diameter of about 12cm, so i don't see the need for
an extra blade stabilizer.
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