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Electric Comet

27/11/2016 1:21 PM

chisel and knife source


know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
are just shaped and not sharpened










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Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 9:21 PM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o1i4ic$a65$2
@dont-email.me:

> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:20:35 -0500
> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a couple in my garage.
>
> have on chisel in the shop but it is too far gone to rescue but still
> has uses
>
> it is officially repurposed never to be a chisel
>

You need to cut a precision screwdriver tip on the end and use it to punch
open various cans. It's only useful if it's your best/favorite
screwdriver!

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Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 9:25 PM

"Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> "Electric Comet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
>> are just shaped and not sharpened
>
>
> Yeah, they are called old dull files.
>
>
>

Has anyone ever sent them out to Boggs Tool?

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[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

01/12/2016 4:13 PM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> writes:

>
>still looking for a chisel source

That's more properly stated as

"I'm still looking for references to a source that provides oil-hardening bar stock
appropriate for making my own chisels".

Note punctuation, capitalization and sentence structure.

You may try calling Ron.

http://www.hocktools.com/

Or getting bar stock from a supplier:

http://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Raw-Materials/Flat-Stock/Oil-Hardening-Flat-Stock?navid=12101782

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

27/11/2016 1:29 PM

On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
> are just shaped and not sharpened

Cut/shape your own from an old saw blade and/or (auto) leaf spring.

Sonny

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 4:07 PM

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

>"Electric Comet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
>> are just shaped and not sharpened


>Yeah, they are called old dull files.

Those, a Hibachi grill, charcoal, hairdryer, piece of old railroad track or
a big vice with an anvil back, and a large cross peen hammer will suffice
for a forge and tools to get you started... Do the rough shaping of the
blade blank at the forge and then move to a grinder and/or files for
shaping... not as efficient as the forges I worked with at Colonial
Williamsburg but it worked in a pinch when I was living in a condo one
summer. ;~)



Sk

Swingman

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 3:05 PM

On 11/27/2016 5:31 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> Yes try Texas Knife Supply in Houston,TX great people to work with. Very helpful. Not sure if they carry chisels but they should.
> good luck

Great store. Was just there at least three times in August and didn't
see any chisel blanks, but the knife blade selection, and quality, is
excellent.

My son-in-law made three knives while he was here from the UK, and he
knew all about Texas Knife Supply before he got here.

Made the fancy one in photos below for Leon, and the plain one for me
... yep, that's par for the course around here. LOL

https://goo.gl/photos/FV7a8ZxmXp4PANRc7

(Leon has a neighbor who's a world class gun engraver, who did the
engraving for him, so I can't hold that against him). ;)

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Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

27/11/2016 5:20 PM

On 11/27/2016 4:21 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>
> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
> are just shaped and not sharpened
>

Sounds like a couple in my garage.

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 3:50 AM

Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in news:94f83bad-6d19-4d70-a7ec-
[email protected]:

> On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
>> are just shaped and not sharpened
>
> Cut/shape your own from an old saw blade

Please don't. Old saws are better off refurbed into working
saws than chopped up into other things (or painted, or otherwise
made unuseable as saws).

As for knives, pretty sure Ron Hock still makes knife blanks.

http://www.hocktools.com/

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

29/11/2016 1:08 AM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

>
> "John McCoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in news:94f83bad-6d19-4d70-a7ec-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
>>>> are just shaped and not sharpened
>>>
>>> Cut/shape your own from an old saw blade
>>
>> Please don't. Old saws are better off refurbed into working
>> saws than chopped up into other things (or painted, or otherwise
>> made unuseable as saws).
>
> I think he is thinking of circular saw blades.

Oh. That's fine then :-)

Altho, I have an idea that the steel used in those blades
isn't really suitable for hand forming into knives and things.
But I'm not really a steel guy, so I may be mis-remembering.

John

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

27/11/2016 1:31 PM

On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
> are just shaped and not sharpened

Google knife & chisel blanks.

http://toolmakingart.com/2012/04/16/making-tools-with-hss-blanks/

Sonny

w

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

27/11/2016 3:31 PM

On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 2:21:26 PM UTC-7, Electric Comet wrote:
> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
> are just shaped and not sharpened

Yes try Texas Knife Supply in Houston,TX great people to work with. Very helpful. Not sure if they carry chisels but they should.
good luck

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 3:36 PM

On 11/28/2016 3:05 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/27/2016 5:31 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Yes try Texas Knife Supply in Houston,TX great people to work with.
>> Very helpful. Not sure if they carry chisels but they should.
>> good luck
>
> Great store. Was just there at least three times in August and didn't
> see any chisel blanks, but the knife blade selection, and quality, is
> excellent.
>
> My son-in-law made three knives while he was here from the UK, and he
> knew all about Texas Knife Supply before he got here.
>
> Made the fancy one in photos below for Leon, and the plain one for me
> ... yep, that's par for the course around here. LOL
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/FV7a8ZxmXp4PANRc7
>
> (Leon has a neighbor who's a world class gun engraver, who did the
> engraving for him, so I can't hold that against him). ;)
>

Darn Close To Hardwood Products!

dx

"dadiOH"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 6:54 AM


"John McCoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in news:94f83bad-6d19-4d70-a7ec-
> [email protected]:
>
>> On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>>> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
>>> are just shaped and not sharpened
>>
>> Cut/shape your own from an old saw blade
>
> Please don't. Old saws are better off refurbed into working
> saws than chopped up into other things (or painted, or otherwise
> made unuseable as saws).

I think he is thinking of circular saw blades.

BL

"Bob La Londe"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 1:28 PM

"Electric Comet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
> are just shaped and not sharpened


Yeah, they are called old dull files.


EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 12:38 PM

On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:20:35 -0500
Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sounds like a couple in my garage.

have on chisel in the shop but it is too far gone to rescue but still
has uses

it is officially repurposed never to be a chisel







EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 2:11 PM

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:28:32 -0700
"Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, they are called old dull files.

much too brittle

have broken plenty in half





BL

"Bob La Londe"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 3:21 PM

"Electric Comet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:28:32 -0700
> "Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, they are called old dull files.
>
> much too brittle
>
> have broken plenty in half

Sure if you aren't going to bother forging and tempering.... Kinda critical
in knife making.

BL

"Bob La Londe"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

28/11/2016 4:01 PM

"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o1i4ic$a65$2
> @dont-email.me:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:20:35 -0500
>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like a couple in my garage.
>>
>> have on chisel in the shop but it is too far gone to rescue but still
>> has uses
>>
>> it is officially repurposed never to be a chisel
>>
>
> You need to cut a precision screwdriver tip on the end and use it to punch
> open various cans. It's only useful if it's your best/favorite
> screwdriver!

Funny. I grab a screwdriver out of he drawer all the time to stir with when
I am making rubber worms. I always seem to grab a good screwdriver instead
of one of those I really should throw away.



BL

"Bob La Londe"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

30/11/2016 3:01 PM

John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Electric Comet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> know of a source for chisels or knives with no handles and the blades
>>> are just shaped and not sharpened
>
>
>>Yeah, they are called old dull files.
>
> Those, a Hibachi grill, charcoal, hairdryer, piece of old railroad track
> or a big vice with an anvil back, and a large cross peen hammer will
> suffice for a forge and tools to get you started... Do the rough shaping
> of the blade blank at the forge and then move to a grinder and/or files
> for shaping... not as efficient as the forges I worked with at Colonial
> Williamsburg but it worked in a pinch when I was living in a condo one
> summer. ;~)

Betchyer neighbors loved to here that. KA-CHANG! KA-CHANG! KA-CHANG!
LOL.


EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

01/12/2016 7:44 AM

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:21:04 -0700
"Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sure if you aren't going to bother forging and tempering.... Kinda
> critical in knife making.

you missed the point of the question and it was clear too








EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

01/12/2016 7:48 AM

On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:31:05 -0800 (PST)
[email protected] wrote:

> Yes try Texas Knife Supply in Houston,TX great people to work with.
> Very helpful. Not sure if they carry chisels but they should. good
> luck

the knives look good and the prices are not bad


might also try stripping the plastic handles off some hf knives
as they are even cheaper


still looking for a chisel source





BL

"Bob La Londe"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

01/12/2016 11:43 AM

"Electric Comet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:21:04 -0700
> "Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sure if you aren't going to bother forging and tempering.... Kinda
>> critical in knife making.
>
> you missed the point of the question and it was clear too

No you missed the point. Unless you are just making round tipped butter
knives. In that case the point was left off on purpose.

You didn't ask, "Where can I buy nearly finished knife blades that I can do
a mind numbingly miniscule amount of work on and then brag to all my friends
about how I made it?"

Files make excellent knife blades by somebody who is willing to do the work.
If you aren't willing to do the work just go buy a knife. Really. Its like
making tools. If its not about "the making" its always easier to just buy
one. Even a good one.






BL

"Bob La Londe"

in reply to Electric Comet on 27/11/2016 1:21 PM

01/12/2016 11:46 AM

"Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Electric Comet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:21:04 -0700
>> "Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure if you aren't going to bother forging and tempering.... Kinda
>>> critical in knife making.
>>
>> you missed the point of the question and it was clear too
>
> No you missed the point. Unless you are just making round tipped butter
> knives. In that case the point was left off on purpose.
>
> You didn't ask, "Where can I buy nearly finished knife blades that I can
> do a mind numbingly miniscule amount of work on and then brag to all my
> friends about how I made it?"
>
> Files make excellent knife blades by somebody who is willing to do the
> work. If you aren't willing to do the work just go buy a knife. Really.
> Its like making tools. If its not about "the making" its always easier to
> just buy one. Even a good one.

P.S. Unless your blank pre froged and tempered blank is made out of HSS you
will most likely ruin it when you slap it up against the grinder anyway.




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