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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

29/12/2003 4:56 PM

Cutting Box Joints

I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box joints and
I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm looking
for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com


This topic has 16 replies

KC

"Keith Carlson"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

31/12/2003 4:11 AM

"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:56:23 -0500, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
>
> > I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
joints and
> > I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
looking
> > for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?
>
> I built this one and it works well:
>
> http://www.netexperts.cc/~lambertm/Wood/lynnjig.html
>
> -Doug

In the pdf file at this site, he says don't worry about it being square to
the table, that will buck out.

Can someone please explain what he means by "buck out"? Does this mean even
if the jig is not perfectly square to the blade, the angles of the cuts will
compensate when the joint is assembled and it will still be tight? And if
so, I'm wondering if this is true only if you're stacking all the pieces to
cut them at the same time?

Danke

Gs

"George"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 7:31 AM

Router my favorite. See the examples at
http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html under box joint jigs. Simple to make,
even simpler to adjust, and with a spiral bit, even plywood will work.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
joints and
> I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
looking
> for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
>
>

Gs

"George"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 9:47 AM

The "fence" is the key in your miter jig, the bit your blade. You butt the
fence to make the first groove, then straddle for subsequent. For the
opposite piece, you run a pusher board through against the fence, then use
the distance established by the groove to reference the first cutout. I've
had good success with middle school kids on this setup. Wouldn't let 'em
near the tablesaw.

If you've not seen the router guys, and have a desire, I can e-mail you some
demo pics I did a year or so ago for another guy, or perhaps put 'em up on
my personal page.

Let me know.

"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 07:31:40 -0500, "George"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Router my favorite. See the examples at
> >http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html under box joint jigs. Simple to
make,
> >even simpler to adjust, and with a spiral bit, even plywood will work.
>
> George,
> How is this used?
>
> <http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=boxj-->
>
> Is there a part not shown in the photo?
>
> Thanks,
> Barry

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 12:59 PM

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 07:31:40 -0500, "George"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Router my favorite. See the examples at
>http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html under box joint jigs. Simple to make,
>even simpler to adjust, and with a spiral bit, even plywood will work.

George,
How is this used?

<http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=boxj-->

Is there a part not shown in the photo?

Thanks,
Barry

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

29/12/2003 10:27 PM


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" writes:

> I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
joints and
> I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
looking
> for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck.

Given you have a dado, then look at Fred Bingham's book, Practical Yacht
Joinery.

20 minutes and a couple of scraps of wood, you have a box joint jig.

Is that enough bang for the buck <G>?


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 9:39 PM

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

> I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
> joints and
> I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
> looking
> for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?

Like others have said, make one. Plans abound. Try it. You'll like it.
They're a little ugly to my eye, but *strong* and easy.

Plan to cut your pieces just a bit oversized and cut the fingers just a bit
too long. That way you can plane off all the glue you missed wiping up at
the same time you make the ends of the fingers smooth as a baby's butt.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 6:03 PM

Looks like a good concept, but what makes it worth $20? Why wouldn't one
made out of scrap work just as well?

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

29/12/2003 10:13 PM

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:56:23 -0500, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

> I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box joints and
> I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm looking
> for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?

I built this one and it works well:

http://www.netexperts.cc/~lambertm/Wood/lynnjig.html

-Doug

PA

"Phil Anderson"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 10:46 AM

I watched the video of this jig in use. Looks like it would be a pain to
use. Very slow. The demonstrator (Mark of Mark's Woodshop) even says
something like "it's kinda slow and tedious." Turning that knob several
time for every cut isn't my cup of tea.

--

Best Regards, Phil

Living In The Woods Of Beautiful Bonney Lake Washington
Visit My Web Site www.madrona.bizhosting.com


TomL recommends:

> Lynn jig. Some scrap hardwood and a threaded steel rod...oh, and a few
> nuts and some Tnuts. Works like a charm.
>
> TomL

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 6:31 PM

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:47:44 -0500, "George"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The "fence" is the key in your miter jig, the bit your blade.

OH! It's used with a miter gauge. <G> Now it all makes sense.

Thanks!
Barry

JC

"James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

29/12/2003 4:32 PM

Ditto Lynn's jig. I built an oversize one and the design still works well.
There are others that involve making a small sled with a pin but in my view,
they are not very
flexible in terms of varying the finger size. If this is the only piece
you'll ever use box joints on, then
it might make sense. Lynn's jig allows you to make whatever size fingers
you want.
Good luck,
cc

"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:56:23 -0500, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
>
> > I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
joints and
> > I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
looking
> > for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?
>
> I built this one and it works well:
>
> http://www.netexperts.cc/~lambertm/Wood/lynnjig.html
>
> -Doug

Tt

TomL

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 2:24 AM

Lynn jig. Some scrap hardwood and a threaded steel rod...oh, and a few
nuts and some Tnuts. Works like a charm.

TomL

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:56:23 -0500, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box joints and
>I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm looking
>for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?

Mm

"Mike"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

31/12/2003 12:13 AM

Try this. It's not free but I built one and it works great.
http://plansnow.com/boxjoint.html

Mike

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
joints and
> I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
looking
> for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
>
>

JD

"James D Kountz"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

29/12/2003 10:16 PM

If you have a dado head for the table saw this is a very easy jig to make.
Depending on the size of stock you're going to be using you can also make a
nice jig for the router. So a google search man theres plenty of variations
for making a box joint jig out there.

Jim


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
joints and
> I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
looking
> for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
>
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

30/12/2003 1:11 AM

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:56:23 -0500, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box joints and
>I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm looking
>for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck. Ideas?

Don't buy one. They are very easy to make, either for a tablesaw dado
blade or router table with a straight-cutting bit.

MO

"My Old Tools"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 29/12/2003 4:56 PM

29/12/2003 5:45 PM

I use a sled with a drop in pin board. Very easy to setup any size.

--
Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ditto Lynn's jig. I built an oversize one and the design still works
well.
> There are others that involve making a small sled with a pin but in my
view,
> they are not very
> flexible in terms of varying the finger size. If this is the only piece
> you'll ever use box joints on, then
> it might make sense. Lynn's jig allows you to make whatever size fingers
> you want.
> Good luck,
> cc
>
> "Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:56:23 -0500, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> >
> > > I've been suckered into a project where I'm going to need to cut box
> joints and
> > > I'm looking for a jig. I've noted a number of them on the web but I'm
> looking
> > > for suggestions on what will give me the most bang for the buck.
Ideas?
> >
> > I built this one and it works well:
> >
> > http://www.netexperts.cc/~lambertm/Wood/lynnjig.html
> >
> > -Doug
>
>


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