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Christopher Horner

09/01/2006 6:09 AM

Waiting for wood

I'm in Southern California and SWMBO has prodded me to stop acquiring
tools and gadgets, and start actually building something useful. In
that vein, I need to ask a question about wood and weather.

I understand that wood needs to 'acclimatize' when brought home, to
stabilize in other words. My question is where should I let it
acclimatize? In the workshop, which is an uncontrolled environment
(read: a detached garage with no HVAC), or inside the house where the
finished wood product (decorative face frame for cleated alcove shelves)
will be used?

Thanks,

Chris


This topic has 11 replies

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 8:48 AM


"Christopher Horner"
> I'm in Southern California and SWMBO has prodded me to stop acquiring
> tools and gadgets, and start actually building something useful. In that
> vein, I need to ask a question about wood and weather.
>
> I understand that wood needs to 'acclimatize' when brought home, to
> stabilize in other words. My question is where should I let it
> acclimatize? In the workshop, which is an uncontrolled environment (read:
> a detached garage with no HVAC), or inside the house where the finished
> wood product (decorative face frame for cleated alcove shelves) will be
> used?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris

Here in SOCal, using lumber purchased locally, the humidity is stable. Wood
movement is minimal. You should still plan on it when planning and building
your projects, but I have found no need to acclimatize it. Also, as a
hobbyist, the wood does in fact sit during the process anyway.

Dave


Bm

"Bugs"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

10/01/2006 5:10 AM

Wood is going to move as long as the weather changes . . . forever!
Stickering it under cover outdoors works as well as anything to
stabilize it.
Bugs

GG

"George"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 12:41 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Plan ahead for wood movement on your projects.
>

That's it. Anything you store or construct in the garage is going to have
some heavy-duty drying done to it when it comes inside an air-conditioned
space. That is, unless you actively control humidity indoors, then
acclimate to your controlled humidity for a couple of weeks prior to using
purchased lumber.

The reason woodworkers frame panels and finish both sides even when they see
only one, and practice a number of other subtle joinery tricks is to plan
for future movement.

GG

"George"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

10/01/2006 6:23 AM


"Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:CSBwf.7345$M%[email protected]...
> Maybe a moisture meter will be a good addition to your tool collection? It
> would help with knowing that the wood is acclimated. --dave
>

Not really. It'll let him know what the approximate MC of the wood is.
Then he still has to take into account the current average or anticipated RH
of his surroundings to see if it has equalized or how far it has to go.

DJ

"Dave Jackson"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 10:56 PM

Maybe a moisture meter will be a good addition to your tool collection? It
would help with knowing that the wood is acclimated. --dave



"Christopher Horner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:J8uwf.5195$ZA5.1889@fed1read05...
> I'm in Southern California and SWMBO has prodded me to stop acquiring
> tools and gadgets, and start actually building something useful. In that
> vein, I need to ask a question about wood and weather.
>
> I understand that wood needs to 'acclimatize' when brought home, to
> stabilize in other words. My question is where should I let it
> acclimatize? In the workshop, which is an uncontrolled environment (read:
> a detached garage with no HVAC), or inside the house where the finished
> wood product (decorative face frame for cleated alcove shelves) will be
> used?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris

JB

Joe Barta

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 3:39 PM

dondone wrote:

>> Good for her! Woodworking is more fun than tool collecting.
>
> My wishes it were true, but realizes I don't believe it. The one
> with the most tools at the end, wins!

You could start a group rec.woodworking.tool-collecting. And I'd have
to disagree with you, tools are the means, not the end.

I had this boss years ago who would always say "It's better to do the
right thing wrong than the wrong thing right." I've found it to be one
of the most valuable little bits I've ever run into, and it has
adjusted my thinking on many many occasions.

Along those lines, it's better to focus on building with the tools you
have than to focus on building your tools.

Joe Barta

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 2:49 PM


"Christopher Horner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:J8uwf.5195$ZA5.1889@fed1read05...
> I'm in Southern California and SWMBO has prodded me to stop acquiring
> tools and gadgets, and start actually building something useful. In that
> vein, I need to ask a question about wood and weather.
>
> I understand that wood needs to 'acclimatize' when brought home, to
> stabilize in other words. My question is where should I let it
> acclimatize? In the workshop, which is an uncontrolled environment (read:
> a detached garage with no HVAC), or inside the house where the finished
> wood product (decorative face frame for cleated alcove shelves) will be
> used?

YMMV but I have always kept it in the location that I will be cutting and
building. You are never going to be able to completely control the
environment. Keeping it in side and building in another with a different
climate may be a waste of time as typically it is in the work environment
long enough that it will start moving again.
Plan ahead for wood movement on your projects.

dd

"dondone"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 8:28 AM


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Christopher Horner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:J8uwf.5195$ZA5.1889@fed1read05...
>> I'm in Southern California and SWMBO has prodded me to stop acquiring
>> tools and gadgets, and start actually building something useful. In that
>> vein, I need to ask a question about wood and weather.
>
> Good for her! Woodworking is more fun than tool collecting.

My wishes it were true, but realizes I don't believe it. The one with the
most tools at the end, wins!

TT

"Toller"

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 2:40 PM


"Christopher Horner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:J8uwf.5195$ZA5.1889@fed1read05...
> I'm in Southern California and SWMBO has prodded me to stop acquiring
> tools and gadgets, and start actually building something useful. In that
> vein, I need to ask a question about wood and weather.

Good for her! Woodworking is more fun than tool collecting.
>
> I understand that wood needs to 'acclimatize' when brought home, to
> stabilize in other words. My question is where should I let it
> acclimatize? In the workshop, which is an uncontrolled environment (read:
> a detached garage with no HVAC), or inside the house where the finished
> wood product (decorative face frame for cleated alcove shelves) will be
> used?
>
The important thing is that the wood is all the same. You don't want to
glue a panel out of a board that been in a dry place with one that has been
in a humid place. Since your workshop (and presumably the lumber yards) are
uncontrolled, that is what you want.

My wood usually stays in my basement for a while between being purchased and
used, but I have used wood the same day when I have run short and I can't
see where it has ever mattered. There are bigger issues to worry about than
waiting for wood.

DD

David

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

09/01/2006 3:06 PM

Christopher Horner wrote:


oh, I thought the subject line referred to the time between ingesting a
Viagra and the onset of ah...

Dave

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Christopher Horner on 09/01/2006 6:09 AM

11/01/2006 1:31 AM

"George" <George@least> writes:
>
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Plan ahead for wood movement on your projects.
>>
>
>That's it. Anything you store or construct in the garage is going to have
>some heavy-duty drying done to it when it comes inside an air-conditioned

Except the OP is in southern Cal. There is seldom humidity above 50%
there.

scott

>space. That is, unless you actively control humidity indoors, then
>acclimate to your controlled humidity for a couple of weeks prior to using
>purchased lumber.
>
>The reason woodworkers frame panels and finish both sides even when they see
>only one, and practice a number of other subtle joinery tricks is to plan
>for future movement.
>
>


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