Anybody got any aloe?

Always agree on a price before labor and material purchases begin.

Hey, I resemble that remark! I'm a programmer and I have lots of
screwdrivers...never killed anyone yet with the screwdrivers or my
software....

rob


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:47:41 -0600, Patriarch
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
><snip>
>> And _always_ be on guard when you see an electrician with a drill in
>> his hand. For some reason the breed never seems to look on the other
>> side to see what the hell may be there.
>>
>Is that like the old adage "Beware the programmer who carries a
>screwdriver?"

So anyway, now that you've had time to heal, and you can finally sit
down; how is the new saw? I saw one at Woodcraft in the cities & was
intrigued.

P.

In article <[email protected]>,
Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
><snip>
>> And _always_ be on guard when you see an electrician with a drill in
>> his hand. For some reason the breed never seems to look on the other
>> side to see what the hell may be there.
>>
>Is that like the old adage "Beware the programmer who carries a
>screwdriver?"

The connundrum: "Which is more dangerous, the hardware engineer with the
'root password', or the software engineer with a screwdriver?"

(it is wise to beware of *either* one!! :)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:27:12 -0500, George <george@least> wrote:
>
> I only paid $150/hour for a guy to climb the towers and change lightbulbs!
> A job I would _never_ do myself.

How high of a tower? 60 feet, I don't mind. More than that, maybe.

Dave

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:46:48 -0500, George <george@least> wrote:
>
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:27:12 -0500, George <george@least> wrote:
>> >
>> > I only paid $150/hour for a guy to climb the towers and change
> lightbulbs!
>> > A job I would _never_ do myself.
>>
>> How high of a tower? 60 feet, I don't mind. More than that, maybe.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Up to 1000, normal 200-400. Business sold, but there's money in climbing
> for a fool.

That's beyond my tolerance. I don't mind heights, and a logical
thinker would realize that 1000 feet kills you as dead as 200 feet,
but...yeah, here's some money, please go do that for me.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Man, did my ass get smoked this morning. I called an electrician to
install
> 220V service in my garage for my new bandsaw. He had to move one breaker
to the
> top of the box to free up two spaces in the bottom of the box. Then he
had to
> string some cable up between some open studs and drill through the top
plate in
> order to run the cable down another open stud in a more convenient spot,
then
> install an outlet. He also replaced the 7' cord that came with my bandsaw
with
> another that would actually reach. The price: $547 !!!
>
> On a related note, the bandsaw's sweet. Gotta go soak my rear end in a
bucket
> of ice....
>

Sounds more like K-Y is in order. You _did_ get an estimate, no?

Caveat Emptor

It makes a difference where you live and what/who you know. If the
electrician is a neighbor, relative expect a small charge. However, if the
guy has to drive 75 miles in the snow bound tundra the price will certainly
reflect this time.

I have a friend who is an electrician, the price goes up if the customer
insists on helping!

Morale: Always get an estimate before allowing an work to be done.

Dave


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Man, did my ass get smoked this morning. I called an electrician to
> install 220V service in my garage for my new bandsaw. He had to move one
> breaker to the top of the box to free up two spaces in the bottom of the
> box. Then he had to string some cable up between some open studs and
> drill through the top plate in order to run the cable down another open
> stud in a more convenient spot, then install an outlet. He also replaced
> the 7' cord that came with my bandsaw with another that would actually
> reach. The price: $547 !!!
>
> I thought I was going to shit.
>
> Knowing what I know now, I'd have done the job myself the next time. I've
> done plenty of 110V wiring but never tackled 220V service before. I got
> an expensive education today. I deserve it, I guess.... I just picked
> this company out of the phone book.
>
> On the plus side, if the house burns down nobody can point the finger at
> me and say I screwed it up. I didn't get electrocuted. And now I have an
> excuse to buy another 220V tool. 8" jointer perhaps?
>
> On a related note, the bandsaw's sweet. Gotta go soak my rear end in a
> bucket of ice....
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
>
>



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"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

The price: $547 !!!
> >
> >I thought I was going to shit.
> >
> -------------------------
> I am not an electrician... BUT I did run a business for years
>
> Just what did you expect to pay ...?
>
> I know I would be paying for the electrician, the truck he drove up
> in, the tepephone in the office, the guy who answered the phone when I
> called, the insurance on the truck and on the workers health, the heat
> for the office etc...and the list goes on....
>
> My guess is that it took the electrician a couple of hours hours...ON
> SITE... I would have smiled at a $400.00 bill

I only paid $150/hour for a guy to climb the towers and change lightbulbs!
A job I would _never_ do myself.

"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:27:12 -0500, George <george@least> wrote:
> >
> > I only paid $150/hour for a guy to climb the towers and change
lightbulbs!
> > A job I would _never_ do myself.
>
> How high of a tower? 60 feet, I don't mind. More than that, maybe.
>
> Dave

Up to 1000, normal 200-400. Business sold, but there's money in climbing
for a fool.

Rob Jones wrote:
> Hey, I resemble that remark! I'm a programmer and I have lots of
> screwdrivers...never killed anyone yet with the screwdrivers or my
> software....


There's probably been a few that wanted to kill you though... <G>



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

Did he at least kiss you????

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> Man, did my ass get smoked this morning. I called an electrician to install
> 220V service in my garage for my new bandsaw. He had to move one breaker to the
> top of the box to free up two spaces in the bottom of the box. Then he had to
> string some cable up between some open studs and drill through the top plate in
> order to run the cable down another open stud in a more convenient spot, then
> install an outlet. He also replaced the 7' cord that came with my bandsaw with
> another that would actually reach. The price: $547 !!!
>
> I thought I was going to shit.
>
> Knowing what I know now, I'd have done the job myself the next time. I've done
> plenty of 110V wiring but never tackled 220V service before. I got an expensive
> education today. I deserve it, I guess.... I just picked this company out of
> the phone book.
>
> On the plus side, if the house burns down nobody can point the finger at me and
> say I screwed it up. I didn't get electrocuted. And now I have an excuse to
> buy another 220V tool. 8" jointer perhaps?
>
> On a related note, the bandsaw's sweet. Gotta go soak my rear end in a bucket
> of ice....
>
>
>

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message

> Knowing what I know now, I'd have done the job myself the next time.

Never seems to be any rhyme or reason to it. Get an entire two story house
wired for $7500, labor and materials, then call them out to add ten feet of
under cabinet circuit the architect forgot, at the end of an already
existing run, and they want a tenth of the total price for the ten feet.

And _always_ be on guard when you see an electrician with a drill in his
hand. For some reason the breed never seems to look on the other side to see
what the hell may be there.

--
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Last update: 11/06/04

George wrote:

> Up to 1000, normal 200-400. Business sold, but there's money in climbing
> for a fool.

I like climbing. I'd love to earn $150 an hour. How can I get paid $150 an
hour to change light bulbs?

(I'd be more worried about lightning than falling. Lightning would be bad.)

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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> And _always_ be on guard when you see an electrician with a drill in
> his hand. For some reason the breed never seems to look on the other
> side to see what the hell may be there.
>
Is that like the old adage "Beware the programmer who carries a
screwdriver?"

Bob G. wrote:
> Just what did you expect to pay ...?


I really had no idea what it would cost. None. I guess I thought it would be
$250-$300. $550 kind of cleared my sinuses.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

Ouch!!!! I just installed my own subpanel and 220V run for around $75 (the
biggest
expense was the breakers). Live and learn I suppose.
Cheers,
cc

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Man, did my ass get smoked this morning. I called an electrician to
> install 220V service in my garage for my new bandsaw. He had to move one
> breaker to the top of the box to free up two spaces in the bottom of the
> box. Then he had to string some cable up between some open studs and
> drill through the top plate in order to run the cable down another open
> stud in a more convenient spot, then install an outlet. He also replaced
> the 7' cord that came with my bandsaw with another that would actually
> reach. The price: $547 !!!
>
> I thought I was going to shit.

Good ole Union labor Huh.





> Knowing what I know now, I'd have done the job myself the next time. I've
> done plenty of 110V wiring but never tackled 220V service before. I got
> an expensive education today. I deserve it, I guess.... I just picked
> this company out of the phone book.
>
> On the plus side, if the house burns down nobody can point the finger at
> me and say I screwed it up. I didn't get electrocuted. And now I have an
> excuse to buy another 220V tool. 8" jointer perhaps?
>
> On a related note, the bandsaw's sweet. Gotta go soak my rear end in a
> bucket of ice....
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
>
>

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:30:39 -0500, Eddie Munster
<[email protected]> wrote:

should have bought him dinner, too.. *g*

>Did he at least kiss you????
>
>Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
>> Man, did my ass get smoked this morning. I called an electrician to install
>> 220V service in my garage for my new bandsaw. He had to move one breaker to the
>> top of the box to free up two spaces in the bottom of the box. Then he had to
>> string some cable up between some open studs and drill through the top plate in
>> order to run the cable down another open stud in a more convenient spot, then
>> install an outlet. He also replaced the 7' cord that came with my bandsaw with
>> another that would actually reach. The price: $547 !!!
>>
>> I thought I was going to shit.
>>
>> Knowing what I know now, I'd have done the job myself the next time. I've done
>> plenty of 110V wiring but never tackled 220V service before. I got an expensive
>> education today. I deserve it, I guess.... I just picked this company out of
>> the phone book.
>>
>> On the plus side, if the house burns down nobody can point the finger at me and
>> say I screwed it up. I didn't get electrocuted. And now I have an excuse to
>> buy another 220V tool. 8" jointer perhaps?
>>
>> On a related note, the bandsaw's sweet. Gotta go soak my rear end in a bucket
>> of ice....
>>
>>
>>



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

You need to get an estimate. I had an electrician (a friend from
someone at work) to hook up my shop subpanel to main and check all
circuits I installed. He took about 40 minutes. For his work, I
agreed to give him a used Radar range oven which he needed. We both
felt like we got a good deal.

sounds about right, I guess it matter were you live. here it costs 150. just
for them to say hi.

Len
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Man, did my ass get smoked this morning. I called an electrician to
> install 220V service in my garage for my new bandsaw. He had to move one
> breaker to the top of the box to free up two spaces in the bottom of the
> box. Then he had to string some cable up between some open studs and
> drill through the top plate in order to run the cable down another open
> stud in a more convenient spot, then install an outlet. He also replaced
> the 7' cord that came with my bandsaw with another that would actually
> reach. The price: $547 !!!
>
> I thought I was going to shit.
>
> Knowing what I know now, I'd have done the job myself the next time. I've
> done plenty of 110V wiring but never tackled 220V service before. I got
> an expensive education today. I deserve it, I guess.... I just picked
> this company out of the phone book.
>
> On the plus side, if the house burns down nobody can point the finger at
> me and say I screwed it up. I didn't get electrocuted. And now I have an
> excuse to buy another 220V tool. 8" jointer perhaps?
>
> On a related note, the bandsaw's sweet. Gotta go soak my rear end in a
> bucket of ice....
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
>
>

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:58:44 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Man, did my ass get smoked this morning. I called an electrician to install
>220V service in my garage for my new bandsaw. He had to move one breaker to the
>top of the box to free up two spaces in the bottom of the box. Then he had to
>string some cable up between some open studs and drill through the top plate in
>order to run the cable down another open stud in a more convenient spot, then
>install an outlet. He also replaced the 7' cord that came with my bandsaw with
>another that would actually reach. The price: $547 !!!
>
>I thought I was going to shit.
>
-------------------------
I am not an electrician... BUT I did run a business for years

Just what did you expect to pay ...?

I know I would be paying for the electrician, the truck he drove up
in, the tepephone in the office, the guy who answered the phone when I
called, the insurance on the truck and on the workers health, the heat
for the office etc...and the list goes on....

My guess is that it took the electrician a couple of hours hours...ON
SITE... I would have smiled at a $400.00 bill

Bob Griffiths

I'm like you ,BUT...how much time was the guy there ???

Service calls usually have a minimum and then a hourly
rate on top of that.They call it "windshield time" and
next time "ASK questions"....

In your area of NC, contractors are getting TOP dollar
for just being there...



Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

> I really had no idea what it would cost. None. I guess I thought it would be
> $250-$300. $550 kind of cleared my sinuses.
>
>
>