I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
very, very cold.
Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
ones and put several up in an array to cover the area.
Anyone see a problem with that plan? Other solutions?
Cheers, Phil
Ottawa, Canada
Cold weather bulbs and fixtures readily available
in fluorescence.
dont_panic wrote:
> I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
> area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
> very, very cold.
> Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
> incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
> How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
> ones and put several up in an array to cover the area.
> Anyone see a problem with that plan? Other solutions?
> Cheers, Phil
> Ottawa, Canada
On 5 Aug 2004 09:37:24 -0700, [email protected] (dont_panic) wrote:
>I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
>area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
>very, very cold.
>Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
>incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
>How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
>ones and put several up in an array to cover the area.
>Anyone see a problem with that plan? Other solutions?
Pine tar torch.
Miners lamp.
Car headlights.
On 5 Aug 2004 09:37:24 -0700, [email protected] (dont_panic)
wrote:
>I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
>area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
>very, very cold.
>Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
>incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
>How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
>ones and put several up in an array to cover the area.
>Anyone see a problem with that plan? Other solutions?
>Cheers, Phil
>Ottawa, Canada
I have an unheated shop also. 'course, in AZ it's not quite such a big
deal... but still too cold for comfort. in the winter I illuminate
with halogen. the extra heat is welcome.
Tom Kohlman wrote:
> I live in cold climate too (mid NY state). The T-8 flourescent fixtures
> (about $20US plus bulbs for a 4 footer...leave it to you to do the metric
> and CDN$ conversion) are rated to start down to 0' F (leave it to you to do
> the centigrade conversion) and I have found that to be accurate. For
> serious task lighting I have a few halogen floods mounted from the
> ceiling...hi draw stuff but source of heat. Personally I can't stand to do
> much work at those temps so I keep a kero heater near that heats up the 18
> sq ft (up to you on the metric thing again) in a hurry.
>
> "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > dont_panic wrote:
> >
> > > I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
> > > area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
> > > very, very cold.
> >
> > > Other solutions?
> >
> > [1] Move to a warmer place?
> > [2] Heat the shop?
> >
> > --
> > Morris Dovey
> > DeSoto, Iowa USA
> >
I use two halogen light fixtures s above my workbench. A picture of one such is here:
http://www.woodworking.com/articles/index.cfm?fa=show&id=108
I did not buy them from the above source.
Mine are suspended from the ceiling and aligned end-to-end and wired to come on
together. Each light fixture has a pull chain to turn them on/off, and to switch from
low wattage to high wattage. I have mine wired from a wall switch as well. They are
set to come on when I switch them with the wall switch. They are warm for certain and
the metal and glass parts get very hot. They are not meant for personal heaters
exactly, but they would probably help somewhat. Worth considering. BTW, the light is
fantastic and very bright. That is just what I need over my workbench.
Hoyt W.
If you get High Output Fluoresent fixtures (HO) 800 MA they are rated
-20 F. Just don't get energy saving lamps as they are only rated 60
F. 8' is least expensive, shorter sizes are available but cost much
more.
MikeM
On 5 Aug 2004 09:37:24 -0700, [email protected] (dont_panic)
wrote:
>I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
>area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
>very, very cold.
>Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
>incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
>How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
>ones and put several up in an array to cover the area.
>Anyone see a problem with that plan? Other solutions?
>Cheers, Phil
>Ottawa, Canada
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Ummm, did something happen since I left for work this morning?
> And how are they going to move the Houses of Parliment? :^)
>
> George
>
Hehe I wondered if someone would pick up on that...
I live in Ottawa, the shop is at my cottage on the Quebec side, about
an hour and a half away from my home.
Cheers, Phil
Cottage in Quebec
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Ummm, did something happen since I left for work this morning?
> And how are they going to move the Houses of Parliment? :^)
>
> George
>
Hehe I wondered if someone would pick up on that...
I live in Ottawa, the shop is at my cottage on the Quebec side, about
an hour and a half away from my home.
Cheers, Phil
Cottage in Quebec
I live in cold climate too (mid NY state). The T-8 flourescent fixtures
(about $20US plus bulbs for a 4 footer...leave it to you to do the metric
and CDN$ conversion) are rated to start down to 0' F (leave it to you to do
the centigrade conversion) and I have found that to be accurate. For
serious task lighting I have a few halogen floods mounted from the
ceiling...hi draw stuff but source of heat. Personally I can't stand to do
much work at those temps so I keep a kero heater near that heats up the 18
sq ft (up to you on the metric thing again) in a hurry.
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> dont_panic wrote:
>
> > I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
> > area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
> > very, very cold.
>
> > Other solutions?
>
> [1] Move to a warmer place?
> [2] Heat the shop?
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
>
"Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I live in cold climate too (mid NY state). The T-8 flourescent
> fixtures (about $20US plus bulbs for a 4 footer...leave it to you to
> do the metric and CDN$ conversion) are rated to start down to 0' F
> (leave it to you to do the centigrade conversion) and I have found
> that to be accurate. For serious task lighting I have a few halogen
> floods mounted from the ceiling...hi draw stuff but source of heat.
> Personally I can't stand to do much work at those temps so I keep a
> kero heater near that heats up the 18 sq ft (up to you on the metric
> thing again) in a hurry.
Tom,
That's an interesting size for a shop. I thought mine was small, but 18
square feet. Is it 2'X9'? I would have no problem with the the 9', but the
2' would make me sidle a bit (gr).
Regards,
Hank
(It can get a little cold here in the Catskills)
Try using flourescent tubes that are caled high output they are
available at the home depot. The 8 foot tubes dont have the same
configuation as a normal 8 footer so you would have to buy a whole
fixture as they are deeper to accomadate the larger ballast. These tubes
are the sam style as what are used in outdoor signs .They are a little
pricy but i have them in my workspace and you almost need sunglasses to
work in there. They last a fairly long time and they fire up immediatly
cheers
Ed
On 5 Aug 2004 09:37:24 -0700, [email protected] (dont_panic)
wrote:
>I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
>area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
>very, very cold.
>Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
>incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
>How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
>ones and put several up in an array to cover the area.
>Anyone see a problem with that plan? Other solutions?
>Cheers, Phil
>Ottawa, Canada
For task lighting I use inexpensive draft lamps and make a
wall-mounted base from scrap wood. The lamps are adjustable, cheap,
and swing out of the way. One gets used for my router table and
drill press. Another for my miter saw and another for my lathe. My
band saw has it's own lamp bolted to the frame. Task lighting is very
important. For general lighting, I have ceiling fluorescent lighting
and soldered bowed hardware cloth to the reflectors to prevent
breakage yet easy to replace a tube. Halogen lamps get very hot.
Ummm, did something happen since I left for work this morning?
And how are they going to move the Houses of Parliment? :^)
George
"dont_panic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
> Ottawa, Canada
dont_panic wrote:
> I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
> area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
> very, very cold.
> Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
> incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
> How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
> ones and put several up in an array to cover the area.
> Anyone see a problem with that plan? Other solutions?
I'm a bit puzzled as to why halogen incandescent floods would be OK but
non-halogen incandescent lighting would not.
> Cheers, Phil
> Ottawa, Canada
--
--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:55:56 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>RE: Subject
>
>Think insulation first, then lighting.
>
>Ever try to do any serious wood working in cold temperatures?
>
>Trust me, it ain't easy.
C'mon, Lew. What would a person from the People's Republik
of Kaliforna know about _cold_? <gd&r>
LJ--who went through Pismo Beach on a damp, foggy, 26°F morn
only to learn that CA -can- get cold after all.
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[email protected] (dont_panic) writes:
> I have a new unheated garage/shop needing lighting over the workbench
> area. This is in western Quebec where temperatures in the winter get
> very, very cold.
> Flourescents aren't suitable and I'm not keen on a bunch of bare
> incandescent bulbs so I'm looking for alternatives.
> How about exterior halogen floods? I can get inexpensive low wattage
If you use a decent power on you lamp you will have some heating where
you need it, as long as you are able to mount them in a way that does
not create a fire (see distance limits indicated on the lamp) you get
nice and bright light and a way to unfreeze your hands.
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Think insulation first, then lighting.
>
> Ever try to do any serious wood working in cold temperatures?
>
> Trust me, it ain't easy.
<soapbox>
Woodworkers have an option others don't. A solar heating panel
isn't difficult to build and can provide a significant amount of
heat. From news://alt.solar.thermal: Full sun is about 250
Btu/h-ft^2.
You can see an outside view of my shop heater at
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/pix/solar1.gif
and as much as can be seen from the inside of the shop at
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/pix/shop_sw.gif
The 6' x 12' panel produced slightly more than 100ºF of solar
gain through the Iowa winter, meaning that air was drawn from the
shop into the collector and was returned to the shop warmed by
100+ºF.
My suggestion to heat the shop wasn't a completely smart-ass
response. Total cost of materials for that panel was about US$200
and the annual fuel cost has been (exactly) US$0.
I'm planning to add two more (same size) panels before the end of
November. If it get /too/ hot, I'll dump the excess heat into my
neighbors' space. (-:
</soapbox>
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA