Jay Pique wrote:
>Not if you want to make money.
Everyone should feel free to knock themselves out with their
flow charts and three dimensional shop layouts. Me? I'm
still living in the world where the rec. in rec.woodworking
means recreational so I won't be bunching up my panties and
puckering up my sphincter over the fact that my radial arm
saw is against the far wall of the shop (where it fits best)
and you have to go past the jointer (between the door and
the radial arm saw/where it fits best) to get to it. Oh,
and at the risk of everyone breaking out in hives, I have my
other machines scattered all about the shop (where they fit
best) with no regard for work flow.
UA100, who, in case the above comments weren't clear, thinks
fretting over work flow in a hobbyist shop is about the
silliest thing anyone could ever waste their time on...
In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I am an ever learning woodworker and was wondering if you older peeps
> could recomend some books that have proved worth the read. I purchased
> a Router resource and was amazed at how much it propelled my knowledge
> of the tool forward.
> Specifically really good books on sharpening, jigs, work flow, etc.
Just hit the library and see what's in their catalog...
Mark & Juanita wrote:
> No, I don't live in a neigborhood with an HOA (deliberately bought where
> there wasn't one); some of our best friends do. The stories they tell are
> amazing (and people are concerned about the federal government being
> fascist? Some of these rules make fascism seem downright civilized).
Me too and me neither. Or me neither and me too. It was really hard to
find a place that didn't involve one of those abominations, but I did.
Fascist bastards can all kiss my lily white ass. It really makes me wonder
what country this is anyway when a bunch of nosy pricks with nothing better
to do than measure your grass can force you to move out of a house you OWN.
Although sometimes the fascist bastards are the town/city council. Some
localities have grass laws and stuff. This one has some new trash can
thing. They've put out a thing about garbage cans being taken in by 5:00
or something like that.
Well, I got news for you people. I don't have any better place to put my
outdoor trashcan than out by the curb, so that's where it stays. I'm kinda
looking forward to someone saying something to me about it. I'm going to
buy a bunch of trashcans and put them across the front of my property with
rocks in them, and then tell the fascist bastards it's my new fence. Then
I'll let the grass get 48" high and put a few Firebirds and Camaros up on
blocks in the weeds. Oh, and paint my house purple, with a mailbox that's
every bit of 6" too high, and the wrong color.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
Rick wrote:
> For more fun, reseed with "Meadow In A Can", a mixture of wildflowers
> (some call 'em weeds) and declare your yard a wildlife sanctuary! The
> bunny-hugging, HOA version of a cat with buttered toast on it's back
> dropped out a window ... perpetual motion!
:)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
On 31 Dec 2004 09:48:36 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>I am an ever learning woodworker and was wondering if you older peeps
>could recomend some books that have proved worth the read. I purchased
>a Router resource and was amazed at how much it propelled my knowledge
>of the tool forward.
>Specifically really good books on sharpening, jigs, work flow, etc.
My favourites for the specifics you list. But go to the library or a
WW show to browse to see what suits you before buying.
"Sharpening": by Leonard Lee or Jim Kingshott
Jigs: "Proven shop tips" or More proven shop tips" both by Taunton.
Work flow: "The Workshop Boook" by Landis.
Barry Lennox
Norman D. Crow wrote:
> "Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:52:15 -0600, Unisaw A100 wrote:
>>
>>> UA100, who, in case the above comments weren't clear, thinks
>>> fretting over work flow in a hobbyist shop is about the silliest
>>> thing anyone could ever waste their time on...
>>
>> Well, I have to plan my work flow! First, the car & pick-me-up
>> truck have to flow outa the shop. Then, I have to cut whatever tool
>> I need to use from the tightly packed herd and roll it out into the
>> enormous void left by flowing the cars/trucks into the driveway.
>> When I'm done making a mess and before nightfall, all these critters
>> have to flow back to their respective spots so the HOA busybody
>> won't think I'm leaving my vehicles in the driveway and
>> participating in some verboten activity in my garage.
>>
> HOA?
I'm guessing Home Owners' Association.
-- Mark
[email protected] wrote in news:1104515316.761777.217030
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> I am an ever learning woodworker and was wondering if you older peeps
> could recomend some books that have proved worth the read. I purchased
> a Router resource and was amazed at how much it propelled my knowledge
> of the tool forward.
> Specifically really good books on sharpening, jigs, work flow, etc.
>
I'd recommend this one (disclaimer: I probably don't qualify as an "older
peep"):
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1561580686/103-3595877-
1455004?v=glance
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 16:57:14 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm guessing Home Owners' Association.
I feel for those of you who have to deal with them.
Barry
"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:52:15 -0600, Unisaw A100 wrote:
>
> > UA100, who, in case the above comments weren't clear, thinks fretting
over
> > work flow in a hobbyist shop is about the silliest thing anyone could
ever
> > waste their time on...
>
> Well, I have to plan my work flow! First, the car & pick-me-up truck have
> to flow outa the shop. Then, I have to cut whatever tool I need to use
> from the tightly packed herd and roll it out into the enormous void left
> by flowing the cars/trucks into the driveway. When I'm done making a mess
> and before nightfall, all these critters have to flow back to their
> respective spots so the HOA busybody won't think I'm leaving my vehicles
> in the driveway and participating in some verboten activity in my garage.
>
HOA?
--
Nahmie
Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot.
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 11:22:59 -0500, "Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:52:15 -0600, Unisaw A100 wrote:
>>
>> > UA100, who, in case the above comments weren't clear, thinks fretting
>over
>> > work flow in a hobbyist shop is about the silliest thing anyone could
>ever
>> > waste their time on...
>>
>> Well, I have to plan my work flow! First, the car & pick-me-up truck have
>> to flow outa the shop. Then, I have to cut whatever tool I need to use
>> from the tightly packed herd and roll it out into the enormous void left
>> by flowing the cars/trucks into the driveway. When I'm done making a mess
>> and before nightfall, all these critters have to flow back to their
>> respective spots so the HOA busybody won't think I'm leaving my vehicles
>> in the driveway and participating in some verboten activity in my garage.
>>
>HOA?
Home-Owners'-Association. Also known as "old people with nothing better
to do with their time than walk around and report violations". And
eeeviiillll violations they are, things like parking cars on the street
without a party permit, leaving one's garbage cans on the curb past
sundown, or [gasp] worse, leaving them on the side of the garage where
someone can see them. Oh, and I almost forgot, leaving one's garage door
open longer than required to park the car inside and get the groceries into
the house.
No, I don't live in a neigborhood with an HOA (deliberately bought where
there wasn't one); some of our best friends do. The stories they tell are
amazing (and people are concerned about the federal government being
fascist? Some of these rules make fascism seem downright civilized).
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:30:34 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Not if you want to make money.
Work flow gets pretty damn simple if there's only one of you in the
workshop.
(and yes, I've designed stuff for car production lines too)
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
=============snip================
> Then
> I'll let the grass get 48" high and put a few Firebirds and Camaros up on
> blocks in the weeds. Oh, and paint my house purple, with a mailbox that's
> every bit of 6" too high, and the wrong color.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
For more fun, reseed with "Meadow In A Can", a mixture of wildflowers (some
call 'em weeds) and declare your yard a wildlife sanctuary! The
bunny-hugging, HOA version of a cat with buttered toast on it's back dropped
out a window ... perpetual motion!
Rick
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:48:36 -0800, megold.andrew wrote:
> I am an ever learning woodworker and was wondering if you older peeps
> could recomend some books that have proved worth the read. I purchased a
> Router resource and was amazed at how much it propelled my knowledge of
> the tool forward.
> Specifically really good books on sharpening, jigs, work flow, etc.
The Feb '05 (current) Fine WoodWorking has "27 books every woodworker
should read". Should be a good place to start.
--
Joe Wells
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:52:22 -0600, Unisaw A100 wrote:
> Look for books or videos by,
>
> Jim Tolpin
> Sandor Nagyszalanczy
> Lonnie Bird
> Tage Frid
> Frank Klausz
> Pat Warner
> Bob Flexner
> Sam Maloof
> Bill Hylton
> Kelly Mehler
> Mark Duginske
> Jeff Jewitt
> Ernie Conover
> George Nakashima
> Curtis Erpelding
> John White
> James Krenov
> Garrett Hack
> Leonard Lee
> Mario Rodriguez
> Charlie Self
> Scott Landis
> Michael Dresdner
John Feirer
Ian Kirby
Doug Stowe
Patrick Spielman
Nick Engler
Percy Blandford
Roy Moungovan
William Wheeler
Charles Hayward
--
To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:52:15 -0600, Unisaw A100 wrote:
> UA100, who, in case the above comments weren't clear, thinks fretting over
> work flow in a hobbyist shop is about the silliest thing anyone could ever
> waste their time on...
Well, I have to plan my work flow! First, the car & pick-me-up truck have
to flow outa the shop. Then, I have to cut whatever tool I need to use
from the tightly packed herd and roll it out into the enormous void left
by flowing the cars/trucks into the driveway. When I'm done making a mess
and before nightfall, all these critters have to flow back to their
respective spots so the HOA busybody won't think I'm leaving my vehicles
in the driveway and participating in some verboten activity in my garage.
So, yeah - there's a lot of "flow" involved in my "rec".
- Doug
--
To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)
Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Specifically really good books on sharpening, jigs, work flow, etc.
>
>Work flow? Raw wood comes in the door, gets worked up and
>something nice goes out the door. That's all you need to
>know about work flow.
Not if you want to make money.
JP
Look for books or videos by,
Jim Tolpin
Sandor Nagyszalanczy
Lonnie Bird
Tage Frid
Frank Klausz
Pat Warner
Bob Flexner
Sam Maloof
Bill Hylton
Kelly Mehler
Mark Duginske
Jeff Jewitt
Ernie Conover
George Nakashima
Curtis Erpelding
John White
James Krenov
Garrett Hack
Leonard Lee
Mario Rodriguez
Charlie Self
Scott Landis
Michael Dresdner
and others.
The list above are some of my favorites. Others can add to
it with names missed.
>Specifically really good books on sharpening, jigs, work flow, etc.
Work flow? Raw wood comes in the door, gets worked up and
something nice goes out the door. That's all you need to
know about work flow.
UA100