I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
Thanks for your help.
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:53:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
>>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
>>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>
>Amazon shows it at 79.99 including shipping.
Do you have a link for that? The closest I see is the thin-kerf
version for 89.99.
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:30:23 -0500, Karl <[email protected]> wrote:
>When I saw the demo at the woodworking show by me, the guy stated that you need
>to use a blade stiffener with the blade. A 10" blade would need a 5"
>stiffener. Anyone use the blade without the stiffener?
>
I've used my WWII with and without. I don't see or hear a difference.
I do think Forrest recommends the stiffener with the thin kerf version
of the their blades, no so much the 1/8".
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:30:34 -0800, Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:
>LRod wrote:
>
>> Incidentally, I have never used a thin kerf blade, even on an
>> underpowered, light duty saw (old Craftsman). I think they cause more
>> problems than they solve.
>
>And I've used the thin kerf Freud blades (as you say, LU something or other)
>for years and never had a problem.
Actually, aren't all their thin kerf blades TK something or other?
The problems to which I refer aren't really related to production vs
non-production. I just feel they are more prone to vibration (although
it may be just the teeth that are narrower--not the plate), they may
need stabilizer/stiffeners which can affect depth of cut, and they
certainly throw off every calculation that depends on a .125" kerf.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
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On Feb 12, 12:17 am, Joe Bleau <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:26:15 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came
> >>>out.
>
> >I am very much interested in your advice and opinions of their blades. I
> >have only been in Woodworking less than a year and still learning a lot.
> >Had to get a part time job to support the hobby. Thanks for your help.
>
> SNIP
>
> I have always sworn by Forrest blades but lately I have been hearing
> about others that outperform the WWII. I opened this thread hoping to
> find some input on these new blades.
>
> Joe
ridge carbide makes a good blade.
"Jim Behning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My Delta blade amazed me with the quality of cuts yesterday.
> That blade must be 15-20 years old. Granted I have not used it much
> but it left burn free edges when properly fed.
>
Many people bash Delta blades, but the one that came with my Delta
contractors saw has served me well. Nice smooth cuts. I have a Freud blade I
use too, but the Delta blade is usually in the TS.
Greg
LRod wrote:
> Incidentally, I have never used a thin kerf blade, even on an
> underpowered, light duty saw (old Craftsman). I think they cause more
> problems than they solve.
And I've used the thin kerf Freud blades (as you say, LU something or other)
for years and never had a problem.
But I don't do production runs where the blade is in constant use for hours -
if I did I'd use a regular kerf blade.
--
It's turtles, all the way down
When I saw the demo at the woodworking show by me, the guy stated that you need
to use a blade stiffener with the blade. A 10" blade would need a 5"
stiffener. Anyone use the blade without the stiffener?
Will wrote:
> I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
> I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
> getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
> heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
> S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
> impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
> the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
> top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
> Thanks for your help.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:53:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came
>>>out.
>>>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>>>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>>>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is
>>>with
>>>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>>>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount
>>>on
>>>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>>>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>
>>Amazon shows it at 79.99 including shipping.
>
> Do you have a link for that? The closest I see is the thin-kerf
> version for 89.99.
They also had the old style for $79.99 at the WW show. What I got is their
latest model out. The one I got is the advanced model.
Also, They told me the thin kerf model is only for low horse power saw
models. I have a Grizzly G0444Z and they said not to use a thin kerf blade
on ts's over 2 hp.
Again, my model saw is WW10406125. Check it out on the WWII site.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>Thanks for your help.
>
Amazon shows it at 79.99 including shipping.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
I'm a little puzzled by "new Woodworker II blade that just came out".
There's no announcement of a new blade on the Forrest site and that
blade has been on the market since at least 1992.
If you're just talking about the regular 10 inch 40 tooth 1/8 inch
kerf Woodworker II, Coastal Tool <http://www.coastaltool.com> has it
for 95 bucks and shipping.
It's certainy a top of the line blade, many consider it to be _the_
top of the line blade.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:10:54 -0500, J. Clarke <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:53:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
>>>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>>>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>>>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
>>>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>>>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>>>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>>>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>
>>Amazon shows it at 79.99 including shipping.
>
>Do you have a link for that? The closest I see is the thin-kerf
>version for 89.99.
http://www.amazon.com/Forrest-WW10407125-Woodworker-10-Inch-40-Tooth/dp/B0000223VQ/sr=8-1/qid=1171248392/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9465961-4824436?ie=UTF8&s=hi
Look for the 20% off code in the middle of the page.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>Thanks for your help.
I see you already bought one so this is sort of moot, but I'll add my
thoughts anyway. When I was first made aware of the WW blades they
were over $100 when that was real money. I couldn't justify that and
somehow wound up with a Freud LU-something or other--they have the
goofiest, non-sequitir numbers for their blades. At the time it was a
little over half the price. I believe the price spread is a little
smaller nowadays.
Now, I have bought maybe a half dozen Freud blades over the years, and
they have yet to disappoint. It's hard for me to believe that the
Forrest is worth twice as much (or 30% more nowadays). It has yet to
be demonstrated to me that it is. So, I'll continue to go for the
value.
That said, I've never heard anyone complain about a Forrest blade,
which is worth something.
Incidentally, I have never used a thin kerf blade, even on an
underpowered, light duty saw (old Craftsman). I think they cause more
problems than they solve.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
Wow! Thanks for that lead. Anytime I can get a WWII for $79.00
including shipping and taxes I will grab it. I have never gotten one
that cheap, even at a WW show. I just put in my order. Just hope
Amazon does not screw it up as they did last time.
Joe
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:19:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:10:54 -0500, J. Clarke <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:53:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
>>>>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>>>>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>>>>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
>>>>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>>>>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>>>>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>>>>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Amazon shows it at 79.99 including shipping.
>>
>>Do you have a link for that? The closest I see is the thin-kerf
>>version for 89.99.
>
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Forrest-WW10407125-Woodworker-10-Inch-40-Tooth/dp/B0000223VQ/sr=8-1/qid=1171248392/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9465961-4824436?ie=UTF8&s=hi
>
>Look for the 20% off code in the middle of the page.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came out.
>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is with
>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>Thanks for your help.
>
There are a lot of WW2 blades that Forest makes. I think I viewed at
least ten 10" blades I could use. Lots of people like their Forest
blades. My Delta blade amazed me with the quality of cuts yesterday.
That blade must be 15-20 years old. Granted I have not used it much
but it left burn free edges when properly fed.
Some folks maintain that the "best" blade in the world wil perform
poorly on a miss- ligned saw. A mediocre blade on a well aligned saw
could outperform the "best."
http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/woodfaq_3.html#Section_3.5
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=table+saw+blade+rec.woodworking&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&sa=X&oi=groups&ct=title
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came
>>out.
>>I heard they have a demo setup at the St. Louis show and was planning on
>>getting it there. I thought you could get a discount at the show, but I
>>heard the price at the show is about 5 dollars higher there than it is
>>with
>>S&H on the web. They want $120 plus sales tax at the show. I was of the
>>impression that if you buy something at a show one could get a discount on
>>the purchase, but I guess that isn't true. My question is this blade a
>>top-of-the-line blade or is there some better out there?
>
> I'm a little puzzled by "new Woodworker II blade that just came out".
> There's no announcement of a new blade on the Forrest site and that
> blade has been on the market since at least 1992.
>
> If you're just talking about the regular 10 inch 40 tooth 1/8 inch
> kerf Woodworker II, Coastal Tool <http://www.coastaltool.com> has it
> for 95 bucks and shipping.
>
> It's certainy a top of the line blade, many consider it to be _the_
> top of the line blade.
>
I went ahead and bought the blade this afternoon. The label on the carton
says:
Woodworker II 10" 40 teeth 5/8 Hole
Alternate Top Bevel/Raker .125 Kerf #6 O.D.
Catalog No. WW10406125 Serial 503828
Special #6 OD Top Grind
I am very much interested in your advice and opinions of their blades. I
have only been in Woodworking less than a year and still learning a lot.
Had to get a part time job to support the hobby. Thanks for your help.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:26:15 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:47 -0600, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I am thinking about getting the new Woodworker II blade that just came
>>>out.
>>
>I am very much interested in your advice and opinions of their blades. I
>have only been in Woodworking less than a year and still learning a lot.
>Had to get a part time job to support the hobby. Thanks for your help.
>
>
SNIP
I have always sworn by Forrest blades but lately I have been hearing
about others that outperform the WWII. I opened this thread hoping to
find some input on these new blades.
Joe