Any Reason Not To Use A Rockler Cross Cut Sled?

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use
> >>
> >> any reason not to just try it
> >
> > Not having one might be a reason.
> >d
> You asked, and I quote:
>
> "If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
> continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
> to your good ole sled?"
>
> This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
> someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
> reason to not "just try it"?

Wait...hold on...what's that word? Oh yeah...

Idiot

On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>
> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and
> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>
> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything inherently wrong with the
> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes, it is
> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have to
> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>
> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>
> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>


Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby. It
is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are almost 20
years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 8:52:36 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> On 4/17/2018 5:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> >> On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use
> >>>>
> >>>> any reason not to just try it
> >>>
> >>> Not having one might be a reason.
> >>> d
> >> You asked, and I quote:
> >>
> >> "If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
> >> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
> >> continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
> >> to your good ole sled?"
> >>
> >> This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
> >> someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
> >> reason to not "just try it"?
> >
> > Wait...hold on...what's that word? Oh yeah...
> >
> > Idiot
> >
> Yes, you would have to be an idiot not to "just try a tool" someone gave
> you rather than ask what everyone thinks.
>
> -1
>

I like that. You gave your own post a -1. Saved me the trouble.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use
>
> any reason not to just try it

Not having one might be a reason.

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> > On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
> >> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
> >>>
> >>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
> >>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
> >>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
> >>> inherently wrong with the
> >>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
> >>> is another $38. Yes, it is
> >>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
> >>> Califormia. But you don't have to
> >>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
> >>>
> >>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
> >>> there a specific reason (or
> >>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
> >>> made sled, other than the
> >>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
> >>>
> >>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
> >>>
> >> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
> >> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
> >> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
> >> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
> >>
> >> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
> >>
> >
> > I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
> > https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>
> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
> where you got your painted plywood?
>
> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
> and did. Excellent.
>

You just can't help yourself can you?

On 4/15/2018 10:57 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/15/18 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled.
>>>>> I've made 2 of my own, a large one and a small one. They work
>>>>> perfectly fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
>>>>> anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes,
>>>>> it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes,
>>>>> it is constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents
>>>>> of Califormia. But you don't have to pay for it and you don't
>>>>> live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
>>>>> table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
>>>>> forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
>>>>> than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>
>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.  If you are going to get it for
>>>> free, jump on it.  If you were going to buy you should consider
>>>> the Dubby. It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.
>>>> Mine are almost 20 years old.  Very accurate.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I should show mine, again.   :-) https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>
>> Very nice Mike.  I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted
>> white from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of
>> sliding tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and
>> wonder if that's where you got your painted plywood?
>>
>
> The sheet I used is actually regular old melamine covered particle board.
> I use the stuff for temporary project tables because it's cheap, flat,
> bright, and glue doesn't stick to it.  I had just finished a bookcase
> job and had the sheets from the tables, so I used them for the sled and
> my outfeed table.
> https://youtu.be/LRgwJzlFrOE

Just a note here Mike. Glue Does stick to Melamine, if you are careful
you can get it off. My old Jet cabinet saw had the same material for
the right extension table, AKA my glue up station. There were chunks of
Melamine missing where glue would drip and a scrap piece of wood would
be placed. ;~) If the glue simply dried/cured on the surface I used a
cabinet scraper to remove the blob.



>
>
>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>  some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I
>> buy it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff.
>> You can, and did.  Excellent.
>>
>
> Thanks, Jack.  For me it all depends on whether I have more time than
> money or more money than time.  Sometimes, I'll pay to buy a jig or
> device I need to finish a paid project.  But most times, I do like the
> satisfaction of building them myself.

True! It often makes sense to build a jig as it can be so unique that
you can not buy one. And then there are times when time is money and
getting the job done on time out weighs the cost of the jig.

>
> I think for people new to woodworking, building jigs is an excellent way
> to learn and practice many different skills and techniques.
>
>
+1

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 3:26:17 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
> > On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
> >>
> >> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've=20
> >> made 2 of my own, a large one and
> >> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
> >>
> >> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything=
=20
> >> inherently wrong with the
> >> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform=
=20
> >> is another $38. Yes, it is
> >> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of=20
> >> Califormia. But you don't have to
> >> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
> >>
> >> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is=
=20
> >> there a specific reason (or
> >> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home=20
> >> made sled, other than the
> >> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
> >>
> >> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
> >>
> >=20
> >=20
> > Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.=C2=A0 If you are going to get it for f=
ree,=20
> > jump on it.=C2=A0 If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubb=
y.=C2=A0 It=20
> > is larger and you can buy for either side get both.=C2=A0 Mine are almo=
st 20=20
> > years old.=C2=A0 Very accurate.
> >=20
> > http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-=
sled/=20
> >=20
>=20
> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>=20
>=20

Nice!

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:57:23 AM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/15/18 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
> > On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> >> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
> >>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled.
> >>>> I've made 2 of my own, a large one and a small one. They work
> >>>> perfectly fine.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
> >>>> anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes,
> >>>> it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes,
> >>>> it is constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents
> >>>> of Califormia. But you don't have to pay for it and you don't
> >>>> live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
> >>>>
> >>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
> >>>> table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
> >>>> forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
> >>>> than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
> >>>>
> >>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
> >>>>
> >>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for
> >>> free, jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider
> >>> the Dubby. It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.
> >>> Mine are almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
> >> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
> >
> > Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted
> > white from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of
> > sliding tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and
> > wonder if that's where you got your painted plywood?
> >
>
> The sheet I used is actually regular old melamine covered particle board.
> I use the stuff for temporary project tables because it's cheap, flat,
> bright, and glue doesn't stick to it. I had just finished a bookcase
> job and had the sheets from the tables, so I used them for the sled and
> my outfeed table.
> https://youtu.be/LRgwJzlFrOE
>
>
> > Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
> > actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
> > some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
> > Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I
> > buy it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff.
> > You can, and did. Excellent.
> >
>
> Thanks, Jack. For me it all depends on whether I have more time than
> money or more money than time. Sometimes, I'll pay to buy a jig or
> device I need to finish a paid project.

Oh My Gosh! How could you? Tool Snob! Tool Snob! Tool Snob!

;-)

Spalted Walt <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR/PORTABLE TABLE SAW"

.... and Will Sampson says the opposite @ 0:10 in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XhMukW7Xt0

:-/

On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>
>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>
>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>
>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>> and did. Excellent.
>>
>
> You just can't help yourself can you?
>

At least those that buy the tools, that he applies his tool snobbery
too, actually build something. I do not recall seeing any thing lately
that he has accomplished with his favored tools. Can you guess who
appears under another name when Leon makes a comment about Festool?

On 4/14/2018 2:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>
>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>
>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>> inherently wrong with the
>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>
>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>> there a specific reason (or
>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>> made sled, other than the
>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>
>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.  If you are going to get it for free,
>> jump on it.  If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.  Mine are
>> almost 20 years old.  Very accurate.
>>
>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>
>
> I guess I should show mine, again.   :-)
> https://youtu.be/DPg5xde


Pretty cool!

DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
[...]
>
> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
> anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]
>
> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
> table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
> forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
> than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make sure it actually cuts
square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Squares
http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square
that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the same day, then I'd say
that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.

(Set the two alleged "squares" on my jointer bed, facing each other and touching at the
bottoms... and measured a gap at the top of nearly 1/16". Repeated on the jointer fence and
the table saw, just to make sure; same results. Repeated that test in the store, too, when I
returned them, in hopes that I just got a bad pair. Nope, they were all like that, and many
were even worse.)

Out by 1/32" over only 6" doesn't meet *my* definition of square. Hopefully the sled is better.

FWIW, I wound up buying a set of four Jevons 3D Squares http://www.jevonstoolco.com/ at
the Woodworking Show a short time later. He guarantees 0.002" max per 6" and according
to my Starrett square it's actually 0.000, which I like a lot better than 0.030...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 4:54:14 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> > If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
>> > reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
>> > emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>> >
>> > www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>
>> Do either of the ones you've made include the angle gauge and pivot or
>> are they simply crosscut as virtually every homemade (regardless of how
>> precise of simple or fancy) I've ever seen has been?
>
>So that would be a vote for the Rockler unit, I guess.
>
>>
>> What's the downside of simply accepting something offered as for free
>> and trying it out to see if it will replace something else; you can
>> always pass it on if not or throw it in the dustbin if it's really
>> useless...
>>
>
>No downside, merely trying to prevent the "It's $200! I could build one in
>10 minutes for free with scraps" argument. Trying to ensure folks stay
>focused on the pro and cons of the device itself.
>
>After all, this is usenet. ;-)
>
OK, my money is on:

<https://www.woodcraft.com/products/incra-miter-express>
and
<https://www.woodcraft.com/products/incra-miter-gauge-1000hd>

;-)

I would (did) spend another $130 and get the incredibly accurate incra 5000.

On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 11:13:47 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:=20
>=20
> > You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
> [...]
> >=20
> > The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
> > anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]
> >=20
> > If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
> > table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
> > forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
> > than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>=20
> Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make =
sure it actually cuts=20
> square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Sq=
uares=20
> http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square=20
> that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the sam=
e day, then I'd say=20
> that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.
>=20

Good point, although as long as the fence has room past 90=C2=B0, making it=
square should be
simple. The video shows the user cutting off a small piece as part of the s=
etup, so squaring
it appears possible.=20

Granted, if the gauge is unusable, or inaccuracies have to compensated for,=
that's certainly a=20
drawback.=20

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 4:54:14 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> ...
>
> > If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
> > reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
> > emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
> >
> > www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>
> Do either of the ones you've made include the angle gauge and pivot or
> are they simply crosscut as virtually every homemade (regardless of how
> precise of simple or fancy) I've ever seen has been?

So that would be a vote for the Rockler unit, I guess.

>
> What's the downside of simply accepting something offered as for free
> and trying it out to see if it will replace something else; you can
> always pass it on if not or throw it in the dustbin if it's really
> useless...
>

No downside, merely trying to prevent the "It's $200! I could build one in
10 minutes for free with scraps" argument. Trying to ensure folks stay
focused on the pro and cons of the device itself.

After all, this is usenet. ;-)

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>
>I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and
>a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>
>The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything inherently wrong with the
>Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes, it is
>constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have to
>pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>
>If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
>reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
>emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>
>www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

If someone gave it to me I would use it, would also be grateful
especially those big numbers on the angle indicator.

But I am not going to stimulate the economy and spend the over $190 at
Rockler. Emotional attachment is to the money.

On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 08:50:20 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 4/17/2018 1:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:17:40 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/16/2018 12:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:23:44 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/15/2018 11:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>>>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>>>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>>>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>>>>>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>>>>>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>>>>>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>>>>>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>>>>>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>>>>>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>>>>>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>>>>>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
>>>>>> often out of touch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, perfect punctuation, and you actually typed something before sending.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Even a blank post has a higher information content than yours.
>>>>
>>> -1
>>
>> You only prove my point.
>>
>-2

...and insist on digging.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:17:40 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 4/16/2018 12:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:23:44 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/15/2018 11:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>>>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>>>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>>>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>>>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>>>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>>>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>>>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>>>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>>>>
>>>> Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
>>>> often out of touch.
>>>
>>> Hey, perfect punctuation, and you actually typed something before sending.
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>> Even a blank post has a higher information content than yours.
>>
>-1

You only prove my point.

DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:

> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>
> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and
> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>
> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything inherently wrong with the
> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes, it is
> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have to
> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>
> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>
> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

"THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR/PORTABLE TABLE SAW"

From the 1st comment of this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4MFLb_MKs

"I bought one, with the cheer leading from my local Rockler staff, buried on the
info somewhere on the back page on line 16 or 18 is the most vital information
you need to know. "THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR/PORTABLE TABLE SAW"
Seems to me that this relevant bit of information should be oh I don't know on
the first line or even on the box! Second it would have been nice to have had
the staff at least mention this small but ever so pertinent bit of information."

On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
...

> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>
> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Do either of the ones you've made include the angle gauge and pivot or
are they simply crosscut as virtually every homemade (regardless of how
precise of simple or fancy) I've ever seen has been?

What's the downside of simply accepting something offered as for free
and trying it out to see if it will replace something else; you can
always pass it on if not or throw it in the dustbin if it's really
useless...

--

On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>
>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>
>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>> inherently wrong with the
>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>
>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>> there a specific reason (or
>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>> made sled, other than the
>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>
>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>
>
>
> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.  If you are going to get it for free,
> jump on it.  If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.  It
> is larger and you can buy for either side get both.  Mine are almost 20
> years old.  Very accurate.
>
> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>

I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>
>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>
>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>> inherently wrong with the
>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>
>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>> there a specific reason (or
>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>> made sled, other than the
>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>
>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>
>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>
>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>
>
> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
where you got your painted plywood?

Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
and did. Excellent.

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

On 4/15/18 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>
>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled.
>>>> I've made 2 of my own, a large one and a small one. They work
>>>> perfectly fine.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
>>>> anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes,
>>>> it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes,
>>>> it is constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents
>>>> of Califormia. But you don't have to pay for it and you don't
>>>> live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>
>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
>>>> table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
>>>> forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
>>>> than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>
>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>
>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for
>>> free, jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider
>>> the Dubby. It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.
>>> Mine are almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>
>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>
> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted
> white from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of
> sliding tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and
> wonder if that's where you got your painted plywood?
>

The sheet I used is actually regular old melamine covered particle board.
I use the stuff for temporary project tables because it's cheap, flat,
bright, and glue doesn't stick to it. I had just finished a bookcase
job and had the sheets from the tables, so I used them for the sled and
my outfeed table.
https://youtu.be/LRgwJzlFrOE


> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I
> buy it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff.
> You can, and did. Excellent.
>

Thanks, Jack. For me it all depends on whether I have more time than
money or more money than time. Sometimes, I'll pay to buy a jig or
device I need to finish a paid project. But most times, I do like the
satisfaction of building them myself.

I think for people new to woodworking, building jigs is an excellent way
to learn and practice many different skills and techniques.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 4/15/18 11:44 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/15/2018 10:57 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 4/15/18 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut
>>>>>> sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and a small one.
>>>>>> They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there
>>>>>> is anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut
>>>>>> sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is
>>>>>> another $38. Yes, it is constructed of materials known to
>>>>>> be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have
>>>>>> to pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you
>>>>>> don't.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and
>>>>>> drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or reasons)
>>>>>> that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>> made sled, other than the emotional attachment to your good
>>>>>> ole sled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it
>>>>> for free, jump on it. If you were going to buy you should
>>>>> consider the Dubby. It is larger and you can buy for either
>>>>> side get both. Mine are almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>
>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood
>>> painted white from an above ground pool I destructed and made a
>>> couple of sliding tables from it, looks just like the stuff you
>>> used, and wonder if that's where you got your painted plywood?
>>>
>>
>> The sheet I used is actually regular old melamine covered particle
>> board. I use the stuff for temporary project tables because it's
>> cheap, flat, bright, and glue doesn't stick to it. I had just
>> finished a bookcase job and had the sheets from the tables, so I
>> used them for the sled and my outfeed table.
>> https://youtu.be/LRgwJzlFrOE
>
> Just a note here Mike. Glue Does stick to Melamine, if you are
> careful you can get it off. My old Jet cabinet saw had the same
> material for the right extension table, AKA my glue up station.
> There were chunks of Melamine missing where glue would drip and a
> scrap piece of wood would be placed. ;~) If the glue simply
> dried/cured on the surface I used a cabinet scraper to remove the
> blob.
>

Well, yeah, I didn't mean it doesn't stick at all. But it doesn't "hold."
I use a piece of hardwood with a sharply cut edge to slide along the
surface. When it hits a dried glue blob, the blob just "pops!" right
off a flies through the air. It's kind of fun, actually... like popping
bubble wrap.


>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash
>>> like some in this group seem to require in order to cut a
>>> straight line. Something about the more you spend, the straighter
>>> the line, or 'I buy it because I can'. I like the 'I build it
>>> because I can' stuff. You can, and did. Excellent.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, Jack. For me it all depends on whether I have more time
>> than money or more money than time. Sometimes, I'll pay to buy a
>> jig or device I need to finish a paid project. But most times, I
>> do like the satisfaction of building them myself.
>
> True! It often makes sense to build a jig as it can be so unique
> that you can not buy one. And then there are times when time is
> money and getting the job done on time out weighs the cost of the
> jig.
>

Exactly! I'm actually thinking about buying one of those Kreg cabinet
hinge installation jigs. They look like they save a LOT of time in
measuring/marking and they let you do it with one hand.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 4/15/2018 9:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>
>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>
>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>
>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>> and did. Excellent.
>>
>
> You just can't help yourself can you?

Didn't know I was supposed to do that?

Please delete offensive response and replace it with just a "+1"



--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

On 4/15/2018 11:25 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>
>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>
>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>
>>
>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>
> Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
> often out of touch.

Hey, perfect punctuation, and you actually typed something before sending.

+1

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

On 4/15/2018 11:29 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>
>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>
>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>
>>
>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>
>
> At least those that buy the tools, that he applies his tool snobbery
> too, actually build something. I do not recall seeing any thing lately
> that he has accomplished with his favored tools. Can you guess who
> appears under another name when Leon makes a comment about Festool?

No, who? This should be a good one?

My festering tool comments are out there for all to see with my name
plastered all over them. I never had a need to use another name, never
will.


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On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:

> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use

any reason not to just try it

On 4/16/2018 12:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:23:44 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/2018 11:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>>>
>>>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>>>
>>> Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
>>> often out of touch.
>>
>> Hey, perfect punctuation, and you actually typed something before sending.
>>
>> +1
>
> Even a blank post has a higher information content than yours.
>
-1

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On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
>> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use
>>
>> any reason not to just try it
>
> Not having one might be a reason.
>
You asked, and I quote:

"If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
to your good ole sled?"

This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
reason to not "just try it"?

I can't help myself, I have to give the Comet a

+1

with or w/o punctuation.

I also can't help adding that if someone gave me one, I'd just try it,
and if I discovered a reason to forgo it's use, I'd try to sell the damn
thing to someone that can't cut a straight line w/o an over priced
gadget. Otherwise, I'd brag endlessly about how I easily cut straight
lines with this overpriced tool and everyone serious about cutting
straight lines should own one...

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On 4/17/2018 1:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:17:40 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/16/2018 12:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:23:44 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/15/2018 11:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>>>>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>>>>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>>>>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>>>>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>>>>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>>>>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>>>>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>>>>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
>>>>> often out of touch.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, perfect punctuation, and you actually typed something before sending.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Even a blank post has a higher information content than yours.
>>>
>> -1
>
> You only prove my point.
>
-2

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On 4/17/2018 5:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use
>>>>
>>>> any reason not to just try it
>>>
>>> Not having one might be a reason.
>>> d
>> You asked, and I quote:
>>
>> "If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
>> continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
>> to your good ole sled?"
>>
>> This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
>> someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
>> reason to not "just try it"?
>
> Wait...hold on...what's that word? Oh yeah...
>
> Idiot
>
Yes, you would have to be an idiot not to "just try a tool" someone gave
you rather than ask what everyone thinks.

-1

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"Jack" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

On 4/17/2018 5:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use
>>>>
>>>> any reason not to just try it
>>>
>>> Not having one might be a reason.
>>> d
>> You asked, and I quote:
>>
>> "If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
>> continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
>> to your good ole sled?"
>>
>> This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
>> someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
>> reason to not "just try it"?
>
> Wait...hold on...what's that word? Oh yeah...
>
> Idiot
>
Yes, you would have to be an idiot not to "just try a tool" someone gave
you rather than ask what everyone thinks.

-1
But if you are not going to use it, wouldn't the resale value be higher if
it is still mint?
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On 4/20/2018 9:15 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 8:52:36 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/17/2018 5:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any reason not to just try it
>>>>>
>>>>> Not having one might be a reason.
>>>>> d
>>>> You asked, and I quote:
>>>>
>>>> "If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>> there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
>>>> continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
>>>> to your good ole sled?"
>>>>
>>>> This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
>>>> someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
>>>> reason to not "just try it"?
>>>
>>> Wait...hold on...what's that word? Oh yeah...
>>>
>>> Idiot
>>>
>> Yes, you would have to be an idiot not to "just try a tool" someone gave
>> you rather than ask what everyone thinks.
>>
>> -1
>>
>
> I like that. You gave your own post a -1. Saved me the trouble.
>
-2

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On 4/20/2018 11:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 08:50:20 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2018 1:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:17:40 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/16/2018 12:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:23:44 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/15/2018 11:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>>>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>>>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>>>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>>>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>>>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>>>>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>>>>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>>>>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>>>>>>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>>>>>>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>>>>>>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>>>>>>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>>>>>>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>>>>>>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>>>>>>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>>>>>>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
>>>>>>> often out of touch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, perfect punctuation, and you actually typed something before sending.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Even a blank post has a higher information content than yours.
>>>>>
>>>> -1
>>>
>>> You only prove my point.
>>>
>> -2
>
> ...and insist on digging.
>
-3

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On 4/22/18 10:13 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
> [...]
>>
>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
>> anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]
>>
>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
>> table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
>> forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
>> than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>
> Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make sure it actually cuts
> square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Squares
> http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square
> that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the same day, then I'd say
> that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.
>
> (Set the two alleged "squares" on my jointer bed, facing each other and touching at the
> bottoms... and measured a gap at the top of nearly 1/16". Repeated on the jointer fence and
> the table saw, just to make sure; same results. Repeated that test in the store, too, when I
> returned them, in hopes that I just got a bad pair. Nope, they were all like that, and many
> were even worse.)
>
> Out by 1/32" over only 6" doesn't meet *my* definition of square. Hopefully the sled is better.
>
> FWIW, I wound up buying a set of four Jevons 3D Squares http://www.jevonstoolco.com/ at
> the Woodworking Show a short time later. He guarantees 0.002" max per 6" and according
> to my Starrett square it's actually 0.000, which I like a lot better than 0.030...
>

I had the same experience with the Rockler "squares."
I left a review on their site, stating such, along with the many other
similar reviews.
I don't know how they sell any of them with those reviews.


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On 4/23/18 5:51 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 11:13:47 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
>> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>> [...]
>>>
>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
>>> anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]
>>>
>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
>>> table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
>>> forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
>>> than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>
>> Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make sure it actually cuts
>> square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Squares
>> http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square
>> that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the same day, then I'd say
>> that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.
>>
>
> Good point, although as long as the fence has room past 90°, making it square should be
> simple. The video shows the user cutting off a small piece as part of the setup, so squaring
> it appears possible.
>
> Granted, if the gauge is unusable, or inaccuracies have to compensated for, that's certainly a
> drawback.
>

You last sentence could be used as a blanket statement for most of
Rockler's jigs/accessories.

Great ideas for jigs, but when it comes down to actually manufacturing
them, they often fall short in the details. Sometimes plastic just
doesn't cut it when trying to replicate things that other companies are
doing with machined metal.


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On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:23:44 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 4/15/2018 11:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>>>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>>>
>>>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>>>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>>>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>>>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>>>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>>>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>>>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>>>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>>>> and did. Excellent.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You just can't help yourself can you?
>>>
>> Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
>> often out of touch.
>
>Hey, perfect punctuation, and you actually typed something before sending.
>
>+1

Even a blank post has a higher information content than yours.

On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>>
>>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
>>>> jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
>>>> almost 20 years old. Very accurate.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
>>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>>
>> Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
>> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
>> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
>> where you got your painted plywood?
>>
>> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
>> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
>> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
>> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
>> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
>> and did. Excellent.
>>
>
> You just can't help yourself can you?
>
Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
often out of touch.

On 4/15/2018 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
>>>>
>>>> I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
>>>> made 2 of my own, a large one and
>>>> a small one. They work perfectly fine.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
>>>> inherently wrong with the
>>>> Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
>>>> is another $38. Yes, it is
>>>> constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
>>>> Califormia. But you don't have to
>>>> pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)
>>>>
>>>> If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
>>>> there a specific reason (or
>>>> reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
>>>> made sled, other than the
>>>> emotional attachment to your good ole sled?
>>>>
>>>> www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled
>>>>
>>> Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.  If you are going to get it for free,
>>> jump on it.  If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
>>> It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.  Mine are
>>> almost 20 years old.  Very accurate.
>>>
>>> http://www.in-lineindustries.com/products/dubby-the-original-table-saw-sled/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I guess I should show mine, again.   :-)
>> https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk
>
> Very nice Mike.  I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
> from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
> tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
> where you got your painted plywood?
>
> Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
> actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
> some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
> Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
> it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
> and did.  Excellent.
>