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I found this on a bulletin board like this one and decided to try it. A
little while back, I was browsing through a newsgroup, just like you
are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could
make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment
of $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam", but like
most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you
would need to send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in
the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of
the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There
are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and
talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured
"what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right?" Then I
invested the measly $6.00 (I use the word "measly" because $6
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investment). Well GUESS WHAT!!... Within 7 days, I started getting
money in the mail! I
was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept
coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the
second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I
had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth
week and I have made just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in
rapidly. It's certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more
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and most importantly, why it works.... Also, make sure you print a copy
of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you
need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that
you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing
something so easy! Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully!
(print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch
the money come in! It's easy. It's legal. And, your investment is
only $6.00 (Plus postage)
IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not
illegal; and it is virtually no risk - it really works!!!! If all of
the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive
extraordinary dividends.
PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or
more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful
because of the honesty and integrity of the
participants. Please continue it's success by carefully adhering to
the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business.
In this business your product is not solid and tangible,
it's a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists.
Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists.
However, the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the
income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included
in that list.
Here are the 4 easy steps to success:
STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper
"PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."
Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of
paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent
thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal
them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of
paper stating the phrase "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.",
your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating
a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate
service and you are
paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little
worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the
U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed
legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1) Damon
Bailey
1055 Brookfield Dr.
Medina, OH 44256 #2) Krysta Johnson
9821 Camino Villa #1024
San Antonio, TX 78254 #3) Daniel Torres
2727 W. Oak Ridge Rd.
Bld:8 Apt:3
Orlando Fl. 32809 #4) Elizabeth Ripley
211 Lanier Drive
Apt #1537
Statesboro, GA 30458 #5) Kim Pepin
1056 Centennial Cres.
Corbeil , Ontario, Canada
P0H 1K0 #6) Jonnerson Liew
No. 27, Tanah Emas, Jalan penampang,
Miles 3, P.O. Box 88300
Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia.
STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as
number 6 on the list.
STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as
close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at
least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 32,000+)
All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money
you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to
Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of
these steps for yourself and, whenever you need money, you can use it
again, and again.
PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the
honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully
adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are
of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many
others have received will come your way.
NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either
on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This
VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service.
(Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to
reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the
directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their
participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will
move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1
position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an
opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people
listed above)
Send it now, add your own name to the list and you're in business!
________________________________________
DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS
________________________________________
Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own
posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and
drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy'
from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the
computer's memory.
Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the
top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'.
This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add
your
name to the list.
Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do
your postings in different settings, you'll always have this file to
go back to.
Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various
newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions,
etc.)
Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new
message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste
from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header
that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a
particular group, click the post message button. You're done with
your first one!
Congratulations...THAT'S IT!
All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after
you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each
newsgroup! REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY
YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200
That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world
within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large
amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can
invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. JUST MAKE
SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.
Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a
very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the
letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the
MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons
respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now
those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5
replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125
persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and
only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now
here is the fun part, each of those 625
persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each
only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125
persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at
#1 and if still ONLY 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive
$15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When
your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in
the newsgroups, and send out another
$6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And
start posting again. The thing to remember is do you realize that
thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and
reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you
afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have
said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money?
So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of
new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and
newsgroups
everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to
50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual
Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY
and this will really work!!!
Please keep this going!!! It's incredible... We can all help each
other with some of our financial problems!!! Thanks and have yourself a
great day!
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That is the major problem. I get very tired of having to scroll down half
> a
> page or more to read a response. I already know what has been previously
> said, and if I don't, I can look. Bottom posting forces me to look at
> useless information and actively skip past it. It is not at all unusual to
> have a full page of text with a one line reply underneath it. It is far
> easier to have software that eliminates the problem then try to train
> everyone to become a skilled editor, or to give a crap. Top posting is
> slowly taking over, for the better.
It's especially useful when one does a newsgroup archive search and finds a
long response. I especially love starting and the bottom and reading
backwards...it's so efficient. Truth be told, the biggest problem isn't
bottom- or top-posting, it's that everyone doesn't do the same thing. So,
we end up with the worst case, messages that combine both.
todd
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parted...
Oh wait, I guess somebody did say that before.... ;-)
Oleg Lego wrote:
> The BobS entity posted thusly:
>
> >I could care less about whether I'm in your kill-file or not. A few of you
> >are like little old ladies fluttering over the fact that I called a spammer
> >a village idiot.
>
> I didn't much care who you were calling a village idiot, or why you
> were doing so.
Personally, I think it's demeaning to the village idiot. Nobody wants
to be likened to a spammer. Village idiots were valuable contributors
to the social fabric of a community. Everyone wants to feel superior
to someone, and the village idiot was the go-to guy if you wanted to
feel better about your lot in life.
Nowadays we can just turn on the tube (or read newsgroups) and
entertain ourselves with countless hours of village idiocy. Ain't
technology grand?
R
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> BobS wrote:
>>
>>> another village idiot
>>>
>> Your message gives no indication of who or what you're responding to.
>> And yet you call someone else an idiot?
>>
>> --
>> It's turtles, all the way down
>
> Larry,
>
> This one is done so there is no confusing you. Did you really want me to
> include the spam in the reply? And if you aren't able to figure out who
> the response was to - then you need to go back to school. You looking for
> a fight - you got it Larry. I'll place you right there with him after that
> smart-ass reply.
>
> Bob S.
>
>
>
Larry is not the only one confused! I see no spam, I see no reference to
spam, I just see a post with someone introducing himself as the village
idiot!
Include the spam in the reply? Well, maybe not all of it, but some reference
to it would make your post more relevant!
Greg
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> >>
>
> Okay. Just to un-confuse everyone. Below is the post made by
> [email protected] that I responded to and called him a village
> idiot for making the post. I changed the subject line from "THIS IS NO
> JOKE! IT REALLY WORKS" to Village Idiot. Most newsreaders do show the
> thread with responses to the initial post under it in a directory
> structure. Obviously some do not or the individuals have different
> settings. No big deal really but it does piss me off that someone such as
> Larry had to take the holier than thou attitude.
>
>
I don't think Larry's response was inappropriate.
Your assumption of how everyone else sees the 'net was the funny part!
Rarely do people completely change the header of a post, respond to it, and
delete ALL the original post, then expect people to understand what was
going on!
Greg
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:270420061959386105%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>>
> In thiscase, given that the same spam is showing up in every newsgroup
> I visit, it's most certainly the latter.
>
> The Standard Advice: Ignore, fliter.
My ISP tries to filter out spam, and did well with this one. All I saw was
the "village idiot" post!
I do agree though, I wish people would just ignore spammers and trolls too.
Greg
Greg O wrote:
>
> I don't think Larry's response was inappropriate.
> Your assumption of how everyone else sees the 'net was the funny part!
> Rarely do people completely change the header of a post, respond to
> it, and delete ALL the original post, then expect people to understand
> what was going on!
> Greg
>
Thanks, Greg, but I think we're all beating a dead horse. Bob is never
going to admit he made a mistake. Reminds me of some current (and
previous) politicians :-).
--
It's turtles, all the way down
In article <[email protected]>,
BobS <[email protected]> wrote:
<...snipped...>
>Scott,
>
>Obviously for some, my initial response did not show up directly under the
>spam post and they saw it possibly as a stand-alone post. My news reader
>shows it directly under the spam post. No mistaking who it was aimed at.
>
>Sure seemed to get a lot of people riled up over a spam post someone else
>made. Must be a slow day out there.
>
>Bob S.
>
>
>
The specs for propagation of usenet news do not guarantee that the
order of messages received will be the same on different servers. In
fact a reading of RFC1036 implies the opposite to be much more likely.
In addition different people will use different news readers to sort
messages in different orders. So what seems to to be "no mistaking"
for one person will very likely be ust confusing to another person.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
See, a lot of us still do it right.
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Course it was all text
> messaging back then - and get this - all top-posting too!
In article <[email protected]>, Scott
Lurndal <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not everyone uses your newsreader. For many your post shows up as a
> standalone post. just FYI.
And some of us use news providers who are pretty good at filtering the
spam before it even hits the groups.
Then, we get to see the folks who decide to respond to posts we've
never seen (and would have ignored in any event).
As I see those folks like BobS, who don't have a clue how Usenet works
and what is appropriate behaviour in reponse to spam, forgers and
trolls, I give them an introduction to my killfile. It's amazing how
little I miss them.
In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Don't be so hard on yourself.
Snort!
In article <[email protected]>, Greg O
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think Larry's response was inappropriate.
> Your assumption of how everyone else sees the 'net was the funny part!
> Rarely do people completely change the header of a post, respond to it, and
> delete ALL the original post, then expect people to understand what was
> going on!
And, of course, the correct public response to a spammer is none.
They are either looking for a response (more troolish behaviour, but
still) in which case the correct response is to deny them, or they are
trully spamming, in which case there's no way in hell they're going to
see the outraged response and it's not only a waste of time but makes
the outraged one look like an idiot.
In thiscase, given that the same spam is showing up in every newsgroup
I visit, it's most certainly the latter.
The Standard Advice: Ignore, fliter.
In article <[email protected]>, Greg O
<[email protected]> wrote:
> My ISP tries to filter out spam, and did well with this one. All I saw was
> the "village idiot" post!
I use Supernews for Usenet access, and they're superb. Most of the crap
people complain about I can't see if I want to because it never makes
it to their servers,
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> BobS wrote:
>
>> another village idiot
>>
> Your message gives no indication of who or what you're responding to.
> And yet you call someone else an idiot?
>
Maybe he is trying to introduce himself to the group.
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
"BobS" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
news:[email protected]...
> Okay. Just to un-confuse everyone. Below is the post made by
> [email protected] that I responded to and called him a
> village idiot for making the post. I changed the subject line from
> "THIS IS NO JOKE! IT REALLY WORKS" to Village Idiot.
Finally.
> Most newsreaders do show the thread with responses to the initial
> post under it in a directory structure.
Most newsreaders using the same usenet server you do,
which comes to a fraction of one per cent of a fraction
of usenet users.
Usenet is slightly bigger than Oshkosh Ne.
BjarteR
"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The BobS entity posted thusly:
>
>>I could care less about whether I'm in your kill-file or not. A few of you
>>are like little old ladies fluttering over the fact that I called a
>>spammer
>>a village idiot.
>
> You just don't get it at all. There was no indication that you were
> responding to spam. There was no indication of who or what you were
> responding to.
>
>> Go get a life. Ignore the posts, place me in your
>>kill-file if that makes you feel better but for christ sakes man - grow
>>up.
>
> I didn't much care who you were calling a village idiot, or why you
> were doing so. I did get a bit ruffled at your response to someone who
> also wondered, when you were clearly at fault.
>
> I think the need for growing up is squarely on you.
Oleg,
I believe you're the one that doesn't get it and I'm not going to take the
time to explain it to you. So thank you for your most valuable input, it
was really considerate of you to take the time but not necessary - really.
Bob S.
"BobS" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>Your reference to RFC1036 is correct but... and I'll quote....
>
>"This document defines the standard format for the interchange of
> network News messages among USENET hosts. It updates and replaces
> RFC-850, reflecting version B2.11 of the News program. This memo is
> distributed as an RFC to make this information easily accessible to
> the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard.
> Distribution of this memo is unlimited."
>
>Please note that it states "It does not specify an Internet standard." also
Give over, Bob. You're just digging yourself deeper. De Facto v. De Jure.
>and therefore is ambiguous since the RFC starts out with "Standard for
>Interchange of USENET Messages" - very confusing but your point is well
Welcome to USENET, pal.
scott
The BobS entity posted thusly:
>I could care less about whether I'm in your kill-file or not. A few of you
>are like little old ladies fluttering over the fact that I called a spammer
>a village idiot.
You just don't get it at all. There was no indication that you were
responding to spam. There was no indication of who or what you were
responding to.
> Go get a life. Ignore the posts, place me in your
>kill-file if that makes you feel better but for christ sakes man - grow up.
I didn't much care who you were calling a village idiot, or why you
were doing so. I did get a bit ruffled at your response to someone who
also wondered, when you were clearly at fault.
I think the need for growing up is squarely on you.
That is the major problem. I get very tired of having to scroll down half a
page or more to read a response. I already know what has been previously
said, and if I don't, I can look. Bottom posting forces me to look at
useless information and actively skip past it. It is not at all unusual to
have a full page of text with a one line reply underneath it. It is far
easier to have software that eliminates the problem then try to train
everyone to become a skilled editor, or to give a crap. Top posting is
slowly taking over, for the better.
"DJ Delorie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> While bottom posting is the more common format, it only works when you
> trim the included message.
CW wrote:
> Don't be so hard on yourself.
>
> "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>another village idiot
I do notice that the confused one's tend to be OE users... and one that
uses KNode (a linux proggie:)
Thunderbird doesn't thread (by reference) by default, but it's an option.
er
--
email not valid
"Rick Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> BobS wrote:
>>
>>> another village idiot
>>>
>> Your message gives no indication of who or what you're responding to.
>> And yet you call someone else an idiot?
>>
>
> Maybe he is trying to introduce himself to the group.
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
Rick,
Probably been around here longer than you. I don't recognize your name as a
regular here. Old Larry is just feeling his oats and once in awhile his
mind wanders and he feels that he has to act important and put somebody down
with his worldly words of wisdom. His response earns him the 2nd village
idiot award.
Bob S.
RicodJour wrote:
> Oleg Lego wrote:
>
>>The BobS entity posted thusly:
>>
>>
>>>I could care less about whether I'm in your kill-file or not. A few of you
>>>are like little old ladies fluttering over the fact that I called a spammer
>>>a village idiot.
>>
>>I didn't much care who you were calling a village idiot, or why you
>>were doing so.
>
>
> Personally, I think it's demeaning to the village idiot. Nobody wants
> to be likened to a spammer. Village idiots were valuable contributors
> to the social fabric of a community. Everyone wants to feel superior
> to someone, and the village idiot was the go-to guy if you wanted to
> feel better about your lot in life.
>
> Nowadays we can just turn on the tube (or read newsgroups) and
> entertain ourselves with countless hours of village idiocy. Ain't
> technology grand?
I saw that documentary. Or was it a Monty Python sketch?
It was both!
er
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email not valid
"Markem" <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:48:49 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I believe you're the one that doesn't get it and I'm not going to take the
>>time to explain it to you. So thank you for your most valuable input, it
>>was really considerate of you to take the time but not necessary - really.
>
> No you change the subject line therefore the thread appears to start
> with you. Changing the subject line was the idiocy that start this
> idiocy.
>
> Mark
> (sixoneeight) = 618
And I'll bet you blame everything on the stars not lining up.
What started this, was a snide remark from a supposedly fellow woodworker
who obviously enjoys making comments like that to purposely provoke a
response. He got one and I think he is now on the same plane as the village
idiot that posted the spam.
Bob S.
"2fatty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> What started this, was a snide remark from a supposedly fellow woodworker
>> who obviously enjoys making comments like that to purposely provoke a
>> response. He got one and I think he is now on the same plane as the
>> village idiot that posted the spam.
>>
>
> You're talking about yourself here right?
>
I'll withdraw that. My apologies.
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What started this, was a snide remark from a supposedly fellow woodworker
> who obviously enjoys making comments like that to purposely provoke a
> response. He got one and I think he is now on the same plane as the
> village idiot that posted the spam.
>
You're talking about yourself here right?
The only post I saw was yours where you appeared to have introduced yourself
as the village idiot. Are you really proud of that? What village are you
from? Do the rest of the villagers agree with you?
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> the village
> idiot that posted > Bob S.
>
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:48:49 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I believe you're the one that doesn't get it and I'm not going to take the
>time to explain it to you. So thank you for your most valuable input, it
>was really considerate of you to take the time but not necessary - really.
No you change the subject line therefore the thread appears to start
with you. Changing the subject line was the idiocy that start this
idiocy.
Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
"BobS" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Reply to what? You changed the subject and removed the references; there
>> was no way to attribute your reply to the message to which you were
>> replying.
>>
>> What you should have done was prefaced your message with something to the
>> order of
>>
>> <spam deleted>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Or better yet, just ignore the spammer.
>>
>> scott
>>
>
>Scott,
>
>Obviously for some, my initial response did not show up directly under the
>spam post and they saw it possibly as a stand-alone post. My news reader
>shows it directly under the spam post. No mistaking who it was aimed at.
Not everyone uses your newsreader. For many your post shows up as a
standalone post. just FYI.
s
"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The BobS entity posted thusly:
>
>>Obviously for some, my initial response did not show up directly under the
>>spam post and they saw it possibly as a stand-alone post. My news reader
>>shows it directly under the spam post. No mistaking who it was aimed at.
>
> Well, the view of your newsreader is a bit murky where I'm sitting. A
> post with no clue as to what it was aimed at, and with no referents
> certainly doesn't put you in the best light.
>
>>Sure seemed to get a lot of people riled up over a spam post someone else
>>made. Must be a slow day out there.
>
> I guess maybe you ought to add me to your list of village idiots who
> can't read your mind.
>
"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "BobS" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> BobS wrote:
>>>
>>>> another village idiot
>>>>
>>> Your message gives no indication of who or what you're responding to.
>>> And yet you call someone else an idiot?
>>>
>>> --
>>> It's turtles, all the way down
>>
>>Larry,
>>
>>This one is done so there is no confusing you. Did you really want me to
>>include the spam in the reply? And if you aren't able to figure out who
>>the
>
> Reply to what? You changed the subject and removed the references; there
> was no way to attribute your reply to the message to which you were
> replying.
>
> What you should have done was prefaced your message with something to the
> order of
>
> <spam deleted>
>
> ...
>
> Or better yet, just ignore the spammer.
>
> scott
>
Scott,
Obviously for some, my initial response did not show up directly under the
spam post and they saw it possibly as a stand-alone post. My news reader
shows it directly under the spam post. No mistaking who it was aimed at.
Sure seemed to get a lot of people riled up over a spam post someone else
made. Must be a slow day out there.
Bob S.
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:26:21 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Ya know Mark, I spent 20 years defending these village idiots. Enough - no
>mo
Have fun
Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> This one is done so there is no confusing you. Did you really want me to
>> include the spam in the reply? And if you aren't able to figure out who
>> the response was to - then you need to go back to school. You looking
>> for a fight - you got it Larry. I'll place you right there with him after
>> that smart-ass reply.
>>
>> Bob S.
>
>
> Actually, I am a bit puzzled also.
>
Okay. Just to un-confuse everyone. Below is the post made by
[email protected] that I responded to and called him a village idiot
for making the post. I changed the subject line from "THIS IS NO JOKE! IT
REALLY WORKS" to Village Idiot. Most newsreaders do show the thread with
responses to the initial post under it in a directory structure. Obviously
some do not or the individuals have different settings. No big deal really
but it does piss me off that someone such as Larry had to take the holier
than thou attitude.
So for your reading pleasure and for all those defenders of the
spammers...here's the post that started the ass-kickin contest that you
couldn't associate my one-liner with........ PS - I still think he's the
village idiot and I really don't care what the spam defenders think. To
them, place me in your kill file - please. With fellow wreckers like them -
who needs enemy's....
Bob S.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> BobS <[email protected]> wrote:
> <...snipped...>
>>Scott,
>>
>>Obviously for some, my initial response did not show up directly under the
>>spam post and they saw it possibly as a stand-alone post. My news reader
>>shows it directly under the spam post. No mistaking who it was aimed at.
>>
>>Sure seemed to get a lot of people riled up over a spam post someone else
>>made. Must be a slow day out there.
>>
>>Bob S.
>>
>>
>>
>
> The specs for propagation of usenet news do not guarantee that the
> order of messages received will be the same on different servers. In
> fact a reading of RFC1036 implies the opposite to be much more likely.
> In addition different people will use different news readers to sort
> messages in different orders. So what seems to to be "no mistaking"
> for one person will very likely be ust confusing to another person.
>
>
> --
>
> Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
> [email protected]
>
Larry,
Your reference to RFC1036 is correct but... and I'll quote....
"This document defines the standard format for the interchange of
network News messages among USENET hosts. It updates and replaces
RFC-850, reflecting version B2.11 of the News program. This memo is
distributed as an RFC to make this information easily accessible to
the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard.
Distribution of this memo is unlimited."
Please note that it states "It does not specify an Internet standard." also
and therefore is ambiguous since the RFC starts out with "Standard for
Interchange of USENET Messages" - very confusing but your point is well
taken. Simply said, not all newsreaders and servers will stack and rack the
threads of a message in the same manner. I will never again rename a
specific thread and make a post.....;-)
Bob S.
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Larry,
>
> This one is done so there is no confusing you. Did you really want me to
> include the spam in the reply? And if you aren't able to figure out who
> the response was to - then you need to go back to school. You looking for
> a fight - you got it Larry. I'll place you right there with him after that
> smart-ass reply.
>
> Bob S.
Actually, I am a bit puzzled also.
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> BobS wrote:
>
>> another village idiot
>>
> Your message gives no indication of who or what you're responding to.
> And yet you call someone else an idiot?
>
> --
> It's turtles, all the way down
Larry,
This one is done so there is no confusing you. Did you really want me to
include the spam in the reply? And if you aren't able to figure out who the
response was to - then you need to go back to school. You looking for a
fight - you got it Larry. I'll place you right there with him after that
smart-ass reply.
Bob S.
BobS wrote:
>
> Ya know Mark, I spent 20 years defending these village idiots. Enough - no
> more cheek-turning or putting up with their bullshit.
Not that I want to get in the middle of this pissing jihad, but what's
this "cheek-turning" stuff? Do you view that as defending your honor?
It's usenet - the only thing you'll do is be another bitchy faceless
person. So what's the point?
Listen to Mark - learn to ignore. Feel free to start with me if you
need the practice. ;)
R
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:03:42 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>And I'll bet you blame everything on the stars not lining up.
>
>What started this, was a snide remark from a supposedly fellow woodworker
>who obviously enjoys making comments like that to purposely provoke a
>response. He got one and I think he is now on the same plane as the village
>idiot that posted the spam.
Nope
And you reacted to said snide comment.
One suggestion be a duck.
Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
"Markem" <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:03:42 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>And I'll bet you blame everything on the stars not lining up.
>>
>>What started this, was a snide remark from a supposedly fellow woodworker
>>who obviously enjoys making comments like that to purposely provoke a
>>response. He got one and I think he is now on the same plane as the
>>village
>>idiot that posted the spam.
>
> Nope
>
> And you reacted to said snide comment.
>
> One suggestion be a duck.
>
> Mark
> (sixoneeight) = 618
Ya know Mark, I spent 20 years defending these village idiots. Enough - no
more cheek-turning or putting up with their bullshit.
On 4/30/2006 1:29 AM CW mumbled something about the following:
> That is the major problem. I get very tired of having to scroll down half a
> page or more to read a response. I already know what has been previously
> said, and if I don't, I can look. Bottom posting forces me to look at
> useless information and actively skip past it. It is not at all unusual to
> have a full page of text with a one line reply underneath it. It is far
> easier to have software that eliminates the problem then try to train
> everyone to become a skilled editor, or to give a crap. Top posting is
> slowly taking over, for the better.
>
> "DJ Delorie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> While bottom posting is the more common format, it only works when you
>> trim the included message.
>
>
Here's where you need a PROPER news reader that compresses all the
replied to text to just one line. I don't have to scroll through much
of anything.
The following is what I saw of the previous message that was properly
BOTTOM posted
-------------------
"CW" <[email protected]> writes:
> + See, a lot of us still do it right.
Top posting is proper when (1) you're talking *about* the referenced
text, but not *in reply to* it, and (2) when the reader is blind and
[ rest snipped for brevity ]
----------------------
With a proper newsreader configured properly (OE is not a proper news
reader and is barely a proper email client), one doesn't have to scroll
through the message. If you need a reference to what was being replied,
you expand the compressed section (where the + is).
Part of the reason for bottom posting is because USENET doesn't
guarantee delivery of messages and may deliver messages in the wrong
order. Let's say for example, my news server didn't get your earlier
message, but it got DJ's reply. The logical flow of the message would
make sense (since I never saw the original message). Reading from the
bottom doesn't, especially if my news server missed SEVERAL messages in
the thread before I got to read one.
--
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"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:270420061700522538%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Scott
> Lurndal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not everyone uses your newsreader. For many your post shows up as a
>> standalone post. just FYI.
>
> And some of us use news providers who are pretty good at filtering the
> spam before it even hits the groups.
>
> Then, we get to see the folks who decide to respond to posts we've
> never seen (and would have ignored in any event).
>
> As I see those folks like BobS, who don't have a clue how Usenet works
> and what is appropriate behaviour in reponse to spam, forgers and
> trolls, I give them an introduction to my killfile. It's amazing how
> little I miss them.
Dave,
I could care less about whether I'm in your kill-file or not. A few of you
are like little old ladies fluttering over the fact that I called a spammer
a village idiot. Go get a life. Ignore the posts, place me in your
kill-file if that makes you feel better but for christ sakes man - grow up.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> BobS <[email protected]> wrote:
> <...snipped...>
>>Your reference to RFC1036 is correct but... and I'll quote....
>>
>>"This document defines the standard format for the interchange of
>> network News messages among USENET hosts. It updates and replaces
>> RFC-850, reflecting version B2.11 of the News program. This memo is
>> distributed as an RFC to make this information easily accessible to
>> the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard.
>> Distribution of this memo is unlimited."
>>
>>Please note that it states "It does not specify an Internet standard."
>>also
>>and therefore is ambiguous since the RFC starts out with "Standard for
>>Interchange of USENET Messages" - very confusing but your point is well
>>taken. Simply said, not all newsreaders and servers will stack and rack
>>the
>>threads of a message in the same manner. I will never again rename a
>>specific thread and make a post.....;-)
>>
>>Bob S.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Yes it is ambiguous. Perhaps one reason it has the disclaimer about
> being an internet standard is that usenet predates the internet, in
> the form that we know it today, anyway.
>
> --
>
> Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
> [email protected]
>
Larry,
You have a good memory. Back around 1966 I worked on the world's largest
computer systems at the time (SAGE) and we used a form of email then between
centers and radar sites that was unique to SAGE (Semi-Automatic Ground
Environment). Then about '69, I moved over to Autodin (Automatic Digital
Network) where email (as we know it) really took off. Course it was all text
messaging back then - and get this - all top-posting too! The screens were
for the most part, not screen's but teletype machines using Baudot 5 bit
code. While working at the underground in Omaha (SAC Command Center) we
jerry-rigged an IBM electric typewriter to replace the teletype. About 30
days later, IBM had a working Selectric on the SACC's system (SAC Command
and Control).
I get a chuckle out of some of the comments made here about not knowing
anything of USENET......;-)
Thanks for the trip down memory lane....
Bob S.
"BobS" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> BobS wrote:
>>
>>> another village idiot
>>>
>> Your message gives no indication of who or what you're responding to.
>> And yet you call someone else an idiot?
>>
>> --
>> It's turtles, all the way down
>
>Larry,
>
>This one is done so there is no confusing you. Did you really want me to
>include the spam in the reply? And if you aren't able to figure out who the
Reply to what? You changed the subject and removed the references; there
was no way to attribute your reply to the message to which you were
replying.
What you should have done was prefaced your message with something to the
order of
<spam deleted>
...
Or better yet, just ignore the spammer.
scott
"Bobby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Holy, Moley, Guys!
>
> I'm counting 42 posts here. More to come?
>
> Bobby
>
Nah.....they're just a bunch o' wimps.... I didn't even get to break a
sweat. Packing it up fer the day and we'll try a little trolling tomorrow
to see who we can reel in......;-)
Bob S.
Wait Wait Wait . . . . I want to be the "village idiot premier" That would
make the the V.I.P.
Steve
"Enoch Root" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CW wrote:
> > Don't be so hard on yourself.
> >
> > "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>another village idiot
>
> I do notice that the confused one's tend to be OE users... and one that
> uses KNode (a linux proggie:)
>
> Thunderbird doesn't thread (by reference) by default, but it's an option.
>
> er
> --
> email not valid
In article <[email protected]>,
BobS <[email protected]> wrote:
<...snipped...>
>Your reference to RFC1036 is correct but... and I'll quote....
>
>"This document defines the standard format for the interchange of
> network News messages among USENET hosts. It updates and replaces
> RFC-850, reflecting version B2.11 of the News program. This memo is
> distributed as an RFC to make this information easily accessible to
> the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard.
> Distribution of this memo is unlimited."
>
>Please note that it states "It does not specify an Internet standard." also
>and therefore is ambiguous since the RFC starts out with "Standard for
>Interchange of USENET Messages" - very confusing but your point is well
>taken. Simply said, not all newsreaders and servers will stack and rack the
>threads of a message in the same manner. I will never again rename a
>specific thread and make a post.....;-)
>
>Bob S.
>
>
>
>
Yes it is ambiguous. Perhaps one reason it has the disclaimer about
being an internet standard is that usenet predates the internet, in
the form that we know it today, anyway.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
Don't be so hard on yourself.
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> another village idiot
>
>
The BobS entity posted thusly:
>Obviously for some, my initial response did not show up directly under the
>spam post and they saw it possibly as a stand-alone post. My news reader
>shows it directly under the spam post. No mistaking who it was aimed at.
Well, the view of your newsreader is a bit murky where I'm sitting. A
post with no clue as to what it was aimed at, and with no referents
certainly doesn't put you in the best light.
>Sure seemed to get a lot of people riled up over a spam post someone else
>made. Must be a slow day out there.
I guess maybe you ought to add me to your list of village idiots who
can't read your mind.
"BobS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I could care less about whether I'm in your kill-file or not.
Then you do care. Of course, I couldn't care less if you do or not.
"CW" <[email protected]> writes:
> See, a lot of us still do it right.
Top posting is proper when (1) you're talking *about* the referenced
text, but not *in reply to* it, and (2) when the reader is blind and
using a screen reader, which starts at the top. Yes, they have to
hear the whole thread, over and over again, just to hear the new part
at the bottom. At least, that was what I used to hear from them.
Hopefully their software is smart enough to cope with that problem
now.
Bottom posting is proper when the result reads like a conversation in
a book.
While bottom posting is the more common format, it only works when you
trim the included message. It's amazing how many people just copy the
whole huge message and only add a tiny bit. It used to be that the
news servers would reject messages that had more referenced text than
new text. Sigh, those were the days.
When done right, you end up with interleaved text - each part of the
original message you're replying to (trimmed to the minimum
necessary), has your reply under it, followed by the next bit of the
original message, then your reply to that, etc; and most of the post
is new text.
Odinn <[email protected]> writes:
> The following is what I saw of the previous message that was properly
> BOTTOM posted
Try a different example. I only included that one line when I
replied, so *everyone* saw that ;-)