RH

"Rob H."

03/03/2011 5:59 AM

What is it? Set 378

I need some help figuring out two of them this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html


Rob


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Sonny

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 5:56 AM

Guesses

2179 - Drain pipe cleanout tool and/or root cutter?

2180 - Early model of a physician's reflex hammer (rubber tire
missing)?

Sonny

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lektric dan

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

04/03/2011 2:46 PM

On Mar 4, 4:15=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> >http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
> > Rob
>
> > 2180 is a watchmakers blueing pan.
>
> Sounds like a good use for it, my only reservation is that it might be a
> little small for that but I still like this idea.

Is that felt (or some other fabric) on the back of the brass disk?
That would probably prevent it from being used at any high
temperature. Additionally, I think bluing solutions would eat up the
brass. There doesn't appear to be any staining to indicate it was
used for this. One thin I notice is that all of the screws are plain
slotted style, not Phillips.

Kb

"Kevin(Bluey)"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

04/03/2011 3:15 PM

On 3/3/2011 8:29 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
>
> Rob
2179 wood stove pipe cleaner or sewerage pipe reamer
2181 lawn aerator

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"I'm not young enough to know everything."

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"Ed Huntress"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 10:44 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
>
> Rob

2183 -- Dry-fly tin, for fishing flies. (Wet-fly tins are thinner). This one
looks like it's from the early '50s. I have one just like it and still use
it.

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UB

"Uffe Bærentsen"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 9:08 PM


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>I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html

2182 Used by customs authorities when they lock down goods?




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"Steve"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 9:30 PM



"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...

I need some help figuring out two of them this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html


Rob

2180 is a watchmakers blueing pan.

2183 is a box for holding fishing flies.


Steve R.

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"Steve"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

04/03/2011 6:31 PM



"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...


> I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
>
> Rob
>
> 2180 is a watchmakers blueing pan.


Sounds like a good use for it, my only reservation is that it might be a
little small for that but I still like this idea.


They are small! mine was made from an old mainspring drum from a large
pocket watch.



Steve R.

Su

"Steve"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

04/03/2011 6:35 PM



"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...


>Is that felt (or some other fabric) on the back of the brass disk?
>That would probably prevent it from being used at any high
>temperature.

I just heard back from the owner of it and they said that "the dark surface
is just aged brass patina".

>Additionally, I think bluing solutions would eat up the
>brass. There doesn't appear to be any staining to indicate it was
>used for this. One thin I notice is that all of the screws are plain
>slotted style, not Phillips.

I'm not convinced that it's a bluing pan, though I think that someone made
it for heating something. It's probably a one off, and if that's the case
then it's almost impossible to guess the exact purpose that the person had
in mind.


Rob


You don't use blueing solutions in a blueing pan. You fill the cavity with
brass filings, and heat blue the part over an alcohol lamp. The brass
filings make even contact with the steel part (like a watch hand) being
blued. Am I the only one here that has done it?


Steve R.

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 6:42 AM

2179
2180
2181 - Aerator or plant starter?
2182
2183 - sample holder
2184 - Aviation flight path gauge

On 03/03/2011 05:59 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
>
> Rob

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 6:56 AM

Michael Kenefick <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:O6Lbp.4457
[email protected]:

> 2183 - sample holder

Nah.... it's a fly case for a fly fisherman.

2181 looks a lot like a primitive fiber comb, like for teasing out flax or
raffia, but the handles suggest it was thrust down onto the object, rather
than the object being thrown against it.

It might be a tool for moving/sliding something big and fluffy that has
nowhere to grip, like a bale of some fiber goods.

LLoyd

KW

Kent Walker

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 1:34 PM

2181: Dibble board http://beekman1802.com/general/a-homemade-dibble.html

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 9:13 AM


>> 2183 - sample holder
>
> Nah.... it's a fly case for a fly fisherman.


Correct, it's for storing flies.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 9:17 AM


> 2179 - Drain pipe cleanout tool and/or root cutter?

Not exactly correct but you're not far off.


> 2180 - Early model of a physician's reflex hammer (rubber tire
> missing)?

If you click the link under the photo you will see close-ups of the end
which show it to be a small container with a retractable lid.


Rob


SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 9:22 AM

2179, no clue
2180, Looks like a way to heat something, some kind of
chemical. Which vaporizes for slow release.
2181, Looks like the kind of lawn aerator that an Indian
Fakir would sleep on.
2182. Some kind of pliers and cutter, but for what?
2183. Sample case, to sell or display.
2184, Might be something for surveying, or mapping?

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Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 10:57 AM




2179 For holding an electrical fuse?

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 12:33 PM

2182: A manual can-opener. Heavy duty.

Bill

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"Robert"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 2:20 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
>
> Rob


2179

2180

2181 Lawn aerator

2182 lineman pliers

2183 Fly Box

2184 navigation measuring tool


Robert

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 9:55 PM


> 2184 - Aviation flight path gauge

I don't know if it's specifically for aviation, but you have the right idea
in that it's for measuring distance on a map. Someone sent the photo to me
from Europe, haven't been able to find another one like it on the web.


Rob




> On 03/03/2011 05:59 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

03/03/2011 11:55 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
>
> Rob

2179 -

2180 -

2181 - Looks like a seed bed prep tool. Press it into the soft soil and
you have nice even rows to drop a seed in. Makes transplanting MUCH
easier. I use something similar in my greenhouse.

2182 -

2183 - Fly box for fisherman

2184 - Looks like a map scale.


--
Steve W.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

04/03/2011 5:11 PM


> 2181: Dibble board http://beekman1802.com/general/a-homemade-dibble.html


This answer is correct.

Still uncertain about the two unidentified tools, some of the suggestions
for them sound good but I haven't been able to find proof for them. The
answers for the rest of them can be seen here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html#answers


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

04/03/2011 5:15 PM


> I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>
>
> Rob
>
> 2180 is a watchmakers blueing pan.


Sounds like a good use for it, my only reservation is that it might be a
little small for that but I still like this idea.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

04/03/2011 8:21 PM


>Is that felt (or some other fabric) on the back of the brass disk?
>That would probably prevent it from being used at any high
>temperature.

I just heard back from the owner of it and they said that "the dark surface
is just aged brass patina".

>Additionally, I think bluing solutions would eat up the
>brass. There doesn't appear to be any staining to indicate it was
>used for this. One thin I notice is that all of the screws are plain
>slotted style, not Phillips.

I'm not convinced that it's a bluing pan, though I think that someone made
it for heating something. It's probably a one off, and if that's the case
then it's almost impossible to guess the exact purpose that the person had
in mind.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

05/03/2011 3:03 PM


> Sounds like a good use for it, my only reservation is that it might be a
> little small for that but I still like this idea.
>
>
> They are small! mine was made from an old mainspring drum from a large
> pocket watch.


I thought it looked small compared to this one that I found on the web:

http://hiro.alliancehorlogere.com/en/Tooling/Bluing_Pan

But I guess size isn't really an issue since most watch parts would fit into
the one on my site.


Rob

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

05/03/2011 11:56 PM

On 2011-03-04, lektric dan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 4:15 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I need some help figuring out two of them this week:
>>
>> >http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/03/set-378.html
>>
>> > Rob
>>
>> > 2180 is a watchmakers blueing pan.
>>
>> Sounds like a good use for it, my only reservation is that it might be a
>> little small for that but I still like this idea.

For watchmakers' workpieces -- things like hands (hour, minute,
second hands), which is what is normally blued -- and perhaps screws.

> Is that felt (or some other fabric) on the back of the brass disk?

Should not be. More likely the color from repeated heating.

> That would probably prevent it from being used at any high
> temperature. Additionally, I think bluing solutions would eat up the
> brass. There doesn't appear to be any staining to indicate it was
> used for this.

Bluing of watch and clock hands is not chemical-based. The
metal is polished (probably spring steel), then heated *evenly* to get
just the right thickness of oxidizing (sort of like when tempering
hardened spring or tool steel, and judging the hardness by the color.

> One thin I notice is that all of the screws are plain
> slotted style, not Phillips.

Normal for a watchmaker. I don't think that I have ever seen a
timepiece with Phillips screws. (Nor Allen, nor hex head FTM.)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 03/03/2011 5:59 AM

06/03/2011 12:10 AM

On 2011-03-05, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a good use for it, my only reservation is that it might be a
>> little small for that but I still like this idea.
>>
>>
>> They are small! mine was made from an old mainspring drum from a large
>> pocket watch.
>
>
> I thought it looked small compared to this one that I found on the web:
>
> http://hiro.alliancehorlogere.com/en/Tooling/Bluing_Pan
>
> But I guess size isn't really an issue since most watch parts would fit into
> the one on my site.

That one looks a reasonable size for mantle clock hands. Not
quite big enough to handle tall clock (grandfather clock) hands, but
sufficient for most mantle clocks, I believe.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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