RH

Rob H.

02/01/2014 1:05 AM

What is it? Set 526

I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Larger images:

http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV


Rob


This topic has 52 replies

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 4:46 PM

On Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:35:10 AM UTC-6, Rob H. wrote:
> Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them on the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears that the tip is broken. http://imgur.com/ik069Em

Ivory handle needle hook? Broken tip? Looks similar to some wooden, plastic handled needle hooks.

Sonny

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:01 AM

On 1/2/2014 7:52 AM, Snag wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 3070 is a cribbage board minus the pegs . Many have a sliding bottom
> covering a compartment to store the pegs .
>


Obviously, you do not play cribbage. Either that or you only have time
for a VERY short game<g>


UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:04 AM

On 1/2/2014 7:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 1/2/2014 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> 3067, special purpose crimper of some kind?
> 3068, visual demo of an electrical relay
> 3069, belt carried doodad of some kind?

3069 is a dispenser for .22 caliber shells. Load them in and then twist
the knob to dispense any number of shells - one at a time - from the
bottom slot.


Sc

Sonny

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:04 AM

On Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:05:30 AM UTC-6, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Larger images: http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV Rob

3070 - I think it's a custom made artist's brush holder

Sonny

DN

Dr Nick

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 9:16 AM

Rob H. <[email protected]> writes:

> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV

3071 is an adjustable hole cutter for a brace-and-bit type drill. That
looks to have a much easier to use clamp than the one I had. As ever,
several of the others look horribly familiar but I've no idea what they
are.

DN

Dr Nick

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 12:03 PM

Rob H. <[email protected]> writes:

>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>
>>3071 is an adjustable hole cutter for a brace-and-bit type drill. That
>>looks to have a much easier to use clamp than the one I had. As ever,
>>several of the others look horribly familiar but I've no idea what they
>>are.
>
>
> Correct, these are used for cutting gaskets. The person who sent the
> photo would like to know why there is only one blade on this tool when
> typically gasket cutters have two blades as seen at the link below.

I disagree - I think it's one of these rather than a gasket cutter.

http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Draper-40mm-120mm-Hole-Cutter-for-Wood-Or-Plastic-91-3937

DN

Dr Nick

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 12:16 AM

J Burns <[email protected]> writes:

> On 1/2/14, 9:33 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> 3070 is a cribbage board minus the pegs . Many have a sliding bottom
>>>> covering a compartment to store the pegs .
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Obviously, you do not play cribbage. Either that or you only have time
>>> for a VERY short game<g>
>>
>>
>> A few days ago I did a search on cribbage boards and found that they all have a
>> lot more holes than 3070. I didn't see any with the same number of holes as the
>> board on my site. I do think that it's a scoreboard for some type of game but
>> can't say exactly which one.
>>
> The fact that it's finished and laminated makes me wonder if it was
> intended to be exposed to water. I can't think of a kitchen use. How
> about outdoors?
>
> The holes look big enough for .22 caliber cartridges, but I don't know
> why anyone would want to lay out 24.
>
> How about screws? If a mechanic routinely needed to remove 24, he
> could see at a glance if he had them all out and if he had them all
> back in. They would stay clean, and a block of wood would be more
> stable than a tin can. The metal inserts would keep the heads of the
> screws up where he could grasp them easily.
>
> Perhaps the space in the middle was for a 4" piece he didn't want to
> forget to put in before he reinstalled the screws!

It's a most peculiar thing. I agree it looks like a cribbage board but
not only does it have nothing like enough holes, I've never seen one
with such nice metal inlay around each hole.

These, and the pattern of the wood leads me to an obvious question: are
any of the holes electrically connected? They do look suspiciously like
4mm "banana plug" sockets.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 5:44 AM

Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>
>
> Rob
>
3068 looks to be an old WECO telephone transfer relay. Not the rotary
stepper sort, but just a multi-pole double-throw type.

3069 is obviously a belt-hung 22-cal ammunition dispensor -- ostensibly for
the breech-break guys. (I have one, Savage O/U 22/.410, my original 50's
model)

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 5:52 AM

Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV

I take back my WECO comment. 3068 is a railroad crossing signal relay.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:06 AM

Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV

3067 is obviously a scissor-style shear for flat material that can be
accessed at one free end. The thing won't fit OVER anything! No idea
what material, but it's got to be tough stuff for all that compound
leverage!

3071 the 'original' AlPax gasket cutter

3072 a fence wire stretcher (for barbed wire; but can be used for smooth
wire by bending)

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 2:35 AM

Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them
on
the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears
that the tip is broken.

http://imgur.com/ik069Em

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 2:40 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>

>3071 is an adjustable hole cutter for a brace-and-bit type drill. That
>looks to have a much easier to use clamp than the one I had. As ever,
>several of the others look horribly familiar but I've no idea what they
>are.


Correct, these are used for cutting gaskets. The person who sent the photo would
like to know why there is only one blade on this tool when typically gasket
cutters have two blades as seen at the link below.


https://www.google.com/search?
q=antique+%22gasket+cutter%22&safe=off&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X
&ei=sEHFUvCRJsOdyQHWwYHYCw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=784

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:11 AM

3068 Seems to be an electrical relay. Probably a reversing switch.
Intended to be configured as double pole double throw. Perhaps for
controlling a motor.

On 1/2/2014 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>
>
> Rob
>

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:09 AM


>> Correct, these are used for cutting gaskets. The person who sent the
>> photo would like to know why there is only one blade on this tool when
>> typically gasket cutters have two blades as seen at the link below.
>
>I disagree - I think it's one of these rather than a gasket cutter.
>
>http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Draper-40mm-120mm-Hole-Cutter-for-
Wood-Or-Plastic-91-3937


The seller had claimed it was for cutting gaskets but I think you are probably
correct.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:10 AM


>3068 Seems to be an electrical relay. Probably a reversing switch.
>Intended to be configured as double pole double throw. Perhaps for
>controlling a motor.


Yes, it's a DC relay.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:10 AM


>3069 is obviously a belt-hung 22-cal ammunition dispensor -- ostensibly for
>the breech-break guys. (I have one, Savage O/U 22/.410, my original 50's
>model)
>


Correct

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:12 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Lloyd E.
Sponenburgh says...
>
>Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Larger images:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>
>I take back my WECO comment. 3068 is a railroad crossing signal relay.
>
>LLoyd


Yes, text on it says "Type K D.C. Relay, General Railway Signal Company"

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:26 AM


>3067 is obviously a scissor-style shear for flat material that can be
>accessed at one free end. The thing won't fit OVER anything! No idea
>what material, but it's got to be tough stuff for all that compound
>leverage!


I sent the owner an email asking if there was any text on it but haven't heard
back yet.


>3071 the 'original' AlPax gasket cutter


Could be, I have found a couple of gasket cutters with just one blade, so I
can't decide if it's a gasket cutter, hole cutter, or both.


>3072 a fence wire stretcher (for barbed wire; but can be used for smooth
>wire by bending)


Correct

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:33 AM


>> 3070 is a cribbage board minus the pegs . Many have a sliding bottom
>> covering a compartment to store the pegs .
>>
>
>
>Obviously, you do not play cribbage. Either that or you only have time
>for a VERY short game<g>


A few days ago I did a search on cribbage boards and found that they all have a
lot more holes than 3070. I didn't see any with the same number of holes as the
board on my site. I do think that it's a scoreboard for some type of game but
can't say exactly which one.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:43 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>

>3067. Specifically a "Metal Lumber" cutter for cutting the metal angle
>iron that is used for building warehouse style storage in combination
>with 2x4's and plywood for the storage surfaces.
>
>Typically the opposites side has a flat surface perpendicular to the
>blade with an indexing pin to align the holes in the "metal lumber" so
>that when you cut the material the pieces can be made the exact same
>distance with out measuring.
>
>The link shows the cutter with a piece of metal lumber on the opposites
>side.
>
>http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/QJYAAMXQgb1RRpi0/$T2eC16F,!zoE9s5nc3nC
BRRpiz2svQ~~60_35.JPG
>
>I have cut and built hundreds of bins using the is cutter.



Thanks! Looks like you nailed another one, I'll pass this along to the owner of
it.

Rr

"Robert"

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 11:12 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting
> them
> on
> the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it
> appears
> that the tip is broken.
>
> http://imgur.com/ik069Em
>

Ice pick

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/1-point-ice-pick/40710IC.html

Robert

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 9:01 AM


>> http://imgur.com/ik069Em
>>
>
>Ice pick
>
>http://www.webstaurantstore.com/1-point-ice-pick/40710IC.html
>
>Robert



Sounds like a good possibility.
Thanks

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 9:07 AM


>In case he wants to know where to get the material for cutting and
>assembly we used to buy this brand material specifically.
>
>http://www.rel.u-szeged.hu/store/metal_lumber?shelving=1


Ok, I'll forward this link to the owner of the tool. I found a similar cutter in
their catalog.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 12:14 PM

On 1/2/14, 5:35 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them
> on
> the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears
> that the tip is broken.
>
> http://imgur.com/ik069Em
>
I used to make temporary survey pins from 1/2" copper pipe and nails.
I'd cap a 3" piece of pipe, solder the head of a 3" nail to the cap, and
put a band of red reflective tape around the pipe.

I'd stick the nail into the ground. I could center a plumb bob over the
top, and I could sight it from a distance.

The mystery device might have served a similar purpose. The long pin
could be inserted into the ground without much resistance. The bullseye
marks might have been to sight from shorter ranges. For longer ranges,
it might have been rotated so that the solid marks would appear centered.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 1:55 PM

On 1/2/14, 9:33 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> 3070 is a cribbage board minus the pegs . Many have a sliding bottom
>>> covering a compartment to store the pegs .
>>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously, you do not play cribbage. Either that or you only have time
>> for a VERY short game<g>
>
>
> A few days ago I did a search on cribbage boards and found that they all have a
> lot more holes than 3070. I didn't see any with the same number of holes as the
> board on my site. I do think that it's a scoreboard for some type of game but
> can't say exactly which one.
>
It seems to be laminated. Would that be to prevent warping?

I may be a little off base... but how about a board for a maitre
d'outhouse to keep reservations straight? ;)

ss

"shazzbat"

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 7:50 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>
>
> Rob
>

3067 is a dexion angle cutter.
That's the only one I recognise.


Steve

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 2:56 PM

Sonny wrote:
> On Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:05:30 AM UTC-6, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Larger images: http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV Rob
> 3070 - I think it's a custom made artist's brush holder
>
> Sonny


Good thought. Maybe, more generally, a bit holder? That might help
explain why there aren't any far into the center?

Bill

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 1:27 PM

>> http://imgur.com/ik069Em
>>
>I used to make temporary survey pins from 1/2" copper pipe and nails.
>I'd cap a 3" piece of pipe, solder the head of a 3" nail to the cap, and
>put a band of red reflective tape around the pipe.
>
>I'd stick the nail into the ground. I could center a plumb bob over the
>top, and I could sight it from a distance.
>
>The mystery device might have served a similar purpose. The long pin
>could be inserted into the ground without much resistance. The bullseye
>marks might have been to sight from shorter ranges. For longer ranges,
>it might have been rotated so that the solid marks would appear centered.


Not sure if this is right but I'll send it to the owner along with the rest of
the guesses for it. I already sent him the ice pick theory and he thought the
steel might not be strong enough for that, but maybe the tool was not well made.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 6:53 PM

On 1/2/14, 9:33 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> 3070 is a cribbage board minus the pegs . Many have a sliding bottom
>>> covering a compartment to store the pegs .
>>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously, you do not play cribbage. Either that or you only have time
>> for a VERY short game<g>
>
>
> A few days ago I did a search on cribbage boards and found that they all have a
> lot more holes than 3070. I didn't see any with the same number of holes as the
> board on my site. I do think that it's a scoreboard for some type of game but
> can't say exactly which one.
>
The fact that it's finished and laminated makes me wonder if it was
intended to be exposed to water. I can't think of a kitchen use. How
about outdoors?

The holes look big enough for .22 caliber cartridges, but I don't know
why anyone would want to lay out 24.

How about screws? If a mechanic routinely needed to remove 24, he could
see at a glance if he had them all out and if he had them all back in.
They would stay clean, and a block of wood would be more stable than a
tin can. The metal inserts would keep the heads of the screws up where
he could grasp them easily.

Perhaps the space in the middle was for a 4" piece he didn't want to
forget to put in before he reinstalled the screws!

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 4:24 PM

>It's a most peculiar thing. I agree it looks like a cribbage board but
>not only does it have nothing like enough holes, I've never seen one
>with such nice metal inlay around each hole.
>
>These, and the pattern of the wood leads me to an obvious question: are
>any of the holes electrically connected? They do look suspiciously like
>4mm "banana plug" sockets.


They do look like sockets but I can't say for sure if they are or not. I took
the
photos at a tractor show back in the fall, someone was selling it at the flea
market. I don't own it so I can't take a closer look. I'm still thinking it's
some
kind of game board, probably for one that was not well know.

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 7:28 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>>> 3070 is a cribbage board minus the pegs . Many have a sliding bottom
>>> covering a compartment to store the pegs .
>>>
>>
>> Obviously, you do not play cribbage. Either that or you only have time
>> for a VERY short game<g>
>
> A few days ago I did a search on cribbage boards and found that they all have a
> lot more holes than 3070. I didn't see any with the same number of holes as the
> board on my site. I do think that it's a scoreboard for some type of game but
> can't say exactly which one.
>


Everyone whoknows how to play Cribbageknows that each playeruses two
pegs to score the game (up to 121). So this board offers a place to
restthepegs before anyone has won a game, and tally-up to 10 (games).
My "track board" has holes that goes up to 8 (games), but it didn't come
to two pegs for that purpose.

It could be used for any other game too, enablinggambling perhaps where
thepublicexchange of funds may be frowned upon.

It just occurred to me, a game of Euchre is scored up to 10 points (but
the way I heard it, you're supposed to usethe four 5 cards to display
the score). I think that's to distract you while you've being cheated!
; ) Ithink I have never seen what I thought was an "honest" gameof
Euchre. It may have been played, but I can't sayas my background is too
limited.

Bill

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 5:31 PM

>Everyone whoknows how to play Cribbageknows that each playeruses two
>pegs to score the game (up to 121). So this board offers a place to
>restthepegs before anyone has won a game, and tally-up to 10 (games).
>My "track board" has holes that goes up to 8 (games), but it didn't come
>to two pegs for that purpose.


I believe what you say about track boards but I couldn't find any on the web.


>It just occurred to me, a game of Euchre is scored up to 10 points (but
>the way I heard it, you're supposed to usethe four 5 cards to display
>the score). I think that's to distract you while you've being cheated!
>; ) Ithink I have never seen what I thought was an "honest" gameof
>Euchre. It may have been played, but I can't sayas my background is too
>limited.


This could be the answer, the only game score boards with 24 holes that I've
found on the web are these Euchre boards:

http://www.acornwoodproducts.com/images/euchre.jpg

They aren't the exact same configuration but this is the closest I've seen so
far. Anyone know why they would have four pegs if they are only tracking two
scores? Maybe just two extra pegs.

Thanks,
Rob

rM

[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 1:33 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them
>on
>the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears
>that the tip is broken.
>
>http://imgur.com/ik069Em

A decorated awl for decorative work?
Or simply a hairpin?



--
The problem with socialism is there's always
someone with less ability and more need.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 9:50 PM

Matthew Russotto wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them
>> on
>> the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears
>> that the tip is broken.
>>
>> http://imgur.com/ik069Em
>
> A decorated awl for decorative work?
> Or simply a hairpin?
>
>
>

Looks like a carved ivory handled bodkin needle. Or if the tip is gone
it could be a fancy button hook.

--
Steve W.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 10:02 PM

On 1/2/14, 8:31 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Everyone whoknows how to play Cribbageknows that each playeruses two
>> pegs to score the game (up to 121). So this board offers a place to
>> restthepegs before anyone has won a game, and tally-up to 10 (games).
>> My "track board" has holes that goes up to 8 (games), but it didn't come
>> to two pegs for that purpose.
>
>
> I believe what you say about track boards but I couldn't find any on the web.
>
>
>> It just occurred to me, a game of Euchre is scored up to 10 points (but
>> the way I heard it, you're supposed to usethe four 5 cards to display
>> the score). I think that's to distract you while you've being cheated!
>> ; ) Ithink I have never seen what I thought was an "honest" gameof
>> Euchre. It may have been played, but I can't sayas my background is too
>> limited.
>
>
> This could be the answer, the only game score boards with 24 holes that I've
> found on the web are these Euchre boards:
>
> http://www.acornwoodproducts.com/images/euchre.jpg
>
> They aren't the exact same configuration but this is the closest I've seen so
> far. Anyone know why they would have four pegs if they are only tracking two
> scores? Maybe just two extra pegs.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
The euchre boards have smaller holes, and they didn't go to the trouble
of laminating the wood.

Here's a caddy for 1/4" bits.
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:33907
The owner bought it because it provides a tight fit. It also looks more
stable than most bit caddies.

I hate knocking over a caddy and having the bits fall out. If a 1/4"
bit fits snugly in the holes of the mystery item, I wonder if that could
be the purpose. The owner of a craft shop found a source of metal
fittings that would fit a 1/4" bit snugly, and he made stable laminated
caddies for farmers who hated having bits fall out of caddies! Well...
maybe...

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 10:57 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>> Everyone whoknows how to play Cribbageknows that each playeruses two
>> pegs to score the game (up to 121). So this board offers a place to
>> restthepegs before anyone has won a game, and tally-up to 10 (games).
>> My "track board" has holes that goes up to 8 (games), but it didn't come
>> to two pegs for that purpose.
>
> I believe what you say about track boards but I couldn't find any on the web.
Here is a link to a "track board" -- 120 or 121 holes for each player:
http://www.greathallgames.com/acards/cribbage2trkContWE1002.jpg

Here is one of the other sort:: 60 holes for each player--you make 2
"laps" (go around twice):
http://mjdfurniture.com/wp-content/plugins/magic-gallery/uploads/4/DSC00433.JPG


>
>
>> It just occurred to me, a game of Euchre is scored up to 10 points (but
>> the way I heard it, you're supposed to usethe four 5 cards to display
>> the score). I think that's to distract you while you've being cheated!
>> ; ) Ithink I have never seen what I thought was an "honest" gameof
>> Euchre. It may have been played, but I can't sayas my background is too
>> limited.
>
> This could be the answer, the only game score boards with 24 holes that I've
> found on the web are these Euchre boards:
>
> http://www.acornwoodproducts.com/images/euchre.jpg
>
> They aren't the exact same configuration but this is the closest I've seen so
> far. Anyone know why they would have four pegs if they are only tracking two
> scores?

Two pegs are used for each player in normal scoring because SOME PEOPLE
(everyone) has a really tough time remembering exactly where the peg
WAS, AFTER they have removed it from the board. With two pegs, one
merely removes the back peg and advances it the appropriate number of
places ahead of the peg that is in front. The peg that was in front now
becomes the back peg. This helps to keep the game more civil! I
think using two pegs makes sense for keeping track of the number of
games won for the sdame reason. Some people take their Cribbage
seriously (I had a friend who did)! It's a nice social game.

Bill


> Maybe just two extra pegs.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 11:26 PM

Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:57:40 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>> Everyone whoknows how to play Cribbageknows that each playeruses two
>>>> pegs to score the game (up to 121). So this board offers a place to
>>>> restthepegs before anyone has won a game, and tally-up to 10 (games).
>>>> My "track board" has holes that goes up to 8 (games), but it didn't come
>>>> to two pegs for that purpose.
>>> I believe what you say about track boards but I couldn't find any on the web.
>> Here is a link to a "track board" -- 120 or 121 holes for each player:
>> http://www.greathallgames.com/acards/cribbage2trkContWE1002.jpg
>>
>> Here is one of the other sort:: 60 holes for each player--you make 2
>> "laps" (go around twice):
>> http://mjdfurniture.com/wp-content/plugins/magic-gallery/uploads/4/DSC00433.JPG
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> It just occurred to me, a game of Euchre is scored up to 10 points (but
>>>> the way I heard it, you're supposed to usethe four 5 cards to display
>>>> the score). I think that's to distract you while you've being cheated!
>>>> ; ) Ithink I have never seen what I thought was an "honest" gameof
>>>> Euchre. It may have been played, but I can't sayas my background is too
>>>> limited.
>>> This could be the answer, the only game score boards with 24 holes that I've
>>> found on the web are these Euchre boards:
>>>
>>> http://www.acornwoodproducts.com/images/euchre.jpg
>>>
>>> They aren't the exact same configuration but this is the closest I've seen so
>>> far. Anyone know why they would have four pegs if they are only tracking two
>>> scores?
>> Two pegs are used for each player in normal scoring because SOME PEOPLE
>> (everyone) has a really tough time remembering exactly where the peg
>> WAS, AFTER they have removed it from the board. With two pegs, one
>> merely removes the back peg and advances it the appropriate number of
>> places ahead of the peg that is in front. The peg that was in front now
>> becomes the back peg. This helps to keep the game more civil! I
>> think using two pegs makes sense for keeping track of the number of
>> games won for the sdame reason. Some people take their Cribbage
>> seriously (I had a friend who did)! It's a nice social game.
>>
>> Bill
> Indeed. I have a Cribbage pegboard made from a slab of wood cut cross
> section of a tree, all nicely varathaned and set up just tht way.
> Double tracks, 4 pegs
>
> Gunner

I'm sure it's a beautiful Cribbage board. That's a great way to enjoy
the fine wood. Do your rules allow you to take your opponents meld if
they miss counting them?

That rule seems to bring out the absolute "worst" in people, but reminds
me of some old, fond, humorous stories (to be honest, I don't care for
that rule myself!) ; )

If you're not using that rule, try it at your next game and see what I mean!

Cheers,
Bill

>
>>
>>> Maybe just two extra pegs.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>>
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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 5:27 AM

>> I believe what you say about track boards but I couldn't find any on the web.
>Here is a link to a "track board" -- 120 or 121 holes for each player:
>http://www.greathallgames.com/acards/cribbage2trkContWE1002.jpg
>
>Here is one of the other sort:: 60 holes for each player--you make 2
>"laps" (go around twice):
>http://mjdfurniture.com/wp-content/plugins/magic-gallery/uploads/4/DSC00433.JPG



Thanks for the link, I had the wrong impression of a what a track board looked
like and was searching for something else.



>Two pegs are used for each player in normal scoring because SOME PEOPLE
>(everyone) has a really tough time remembering exactly where the peg
>WAS, AFTER they have removed it from the board.


That's makes sense, I guess you can tell that I've never played Cribbage.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 11:37 AM

On 1/2/14, 8:31 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Everyone whoknows how to play Cribbageknows that each playeruses two
>> pegs to score the game (up to 121). So this board offers a place to
>> restthepegs before anyone has won a game, and tally-up to 10 (games).
>> My "track board" has holes that goes up to 8 (games), but it didn't come
>> to two pegs for that purpose.
>
>
> I believe what you say about track boards but I couldn't find any on the web.
>
>
>> It just occurred to me, a game of Euchre is scored up to 10 points (but
>> the way I heard it, you're supposed to usethe four 5 cards to display
>> the score). I think that's to distract you while you've being cheated!
>> ; ) Ithink I have never seen what I thought was an "honest" gameof
>> Euchre. It may have been played, but I can't sayas my background is too
>> limited.
>
>
> This could be the answer, the only game score boards with 24 holes that I've
> found on the web are these Euchre boards:
>
> http://www.acornwoodproducts.com/images/euchre.jpg
>
> They aren't the exact same configuration but this is the closest I've seen so
> far. Anyone know why they would have four pegs if they are only tracking two
> scores? Maybe just two extra pegs.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
I haven't seen any game boards with such big holes, with metal inserts,
or with laminated wood.

A female shopper sees a nicely finished piece of laminated wood with
bright brass inserts. The sign says, "For the man who has everything."
She asks what it's for. The shopkeeper inserts some 1/4" screwdriver
bits, inverts the board, and shows her that they won't fall out. She
gladly pays top dollar because it's aesthetically pleasing, it's not
mass produced, and it looks useful. The beat-up appearance shows that
her husband liked it.

If I had the brainstorm to make such caddies, I'd buy laminated cutting
boards to saw up. I'd buy a cribbage board as a guide for drilling.
I'd enlarge the holes I intended to use, tape over the rest, and clamp
it to my laminated board. Thus it has some resemblance to a cribbage
board and to a cutting board.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 1:44 PM

>I haven't seen any game boards with such big holes, with metal inserts,
>or with laminated wood.


We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I did a search on bit holders and
didn't see any like the board in question. This page has some game boards with
metal inserts:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html/?_nkw=brass%20cribbage%20board

As for the larger holes, maybe whoever made the board had some extra quarter
inch metal inserts and wanted to use them. For now I'm sticking with the Euchre
board theory until some evidence comes along that points in a different
direction.

The rest of them have all been correctly identified this week:


http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/01/set-526.html#answers


I'm still not sure about the ice pick type item, with the tip broken off it's
hard to say for certain what it was for. I'll pass along all of the suggestions
to the owner.

Thanks everyone!

Rob

BB

Bill

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 8:05 PM

Sonny wrote:
> On Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:35:10 AM UTC-6, Rob H. wrote:
>> Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them on the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears that the tip is broken. http://imgur.com/ik069Em
> Ivory handle needle hook? Broken tip? Looks similar to some wooden, plastic handled needle hooks.
>
> Sonny

It looks like it could be a tool for a jeweler, for supportingrings.

Bill

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

05/01/2014 1:14 AM

On 1/3/14, 4:44 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I haven't seen any game boards with such big holes, with metal inserts,
>> or with laminated wood.
>
>
> We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I did a search on bit holders and
> didn't see any like the board in question. This page has some game boards with
> metal inserts:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html/?_nkw=brass%20cribbage%20board
>
> As for the larger holes, maybe whoever made the board had some extra quarter
> inch metal inserts and wanted to use them. For now I'm sticking with the Euchre
> board theory until some evidence comes along that points in a different
> direction.
>

I've googled for game boards and haven't found any with two rows and an
array at each end.

If it was made from a discarded cutting board, perhaps it was to avoid
paying $556.69 for a 24-hole board that looks functionally the same.

<http://www.toolstoday.com/p-4886-24-piece-master-router-bit-set-14-inch-shank-by-amana-tool.aspx>

That would explain the pattern of the mystery item. The single rows
would be for larger routers.

The metal inserts may have been to protect the shanks from rusting after
prolonged contact with possibly damp wood.

GA

Gunner Asch

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:11 PM

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:57:40 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Rob H. wrote:
>>> Everyone whoknows how to play Cribbageknows that each playeruses two
>>> pegs to score the game (up to 121). So this board offers a place to
>>> restthepegs before anyone has won a game, and tally-up to 10 (games).
>>> My "track board" has holes that goes up to 8 (games), but it didn't come
>>> to two pegs for that purpose.
>>
>> I believe what you say about track boards but I couldn't find any on the web.
>Here is a link to a "track board" -- 120 or 121 holes for each player:
>http://www.greathallgames.com/acards/cribbage2trkContWE1002.jpg
>
>Here is one of the other sort:: 60 holes for each player--you make 2
>"laps" (go around twice):
>http://mjdfurniture.com/wp-content/plugins/magic-gallery/uploads/4/DSC00433.JPG
>
>
>>
>>
>>> It just occurred to me, a game of Euchre is scored up to 10 points (but
>>> the way I heard it, you're supposed to usethe four 5 cards to display
>>> the score). I think that's to distract you while you've being cheated!
>>> ; ) Ithink I have never seen what I thought was an "honest" gameof
>>> Euchre. It may have been played, but I can't sayas my background is too
>>> limited.
>>
>> This could be the answer, the only game score boards with 24 holes that I've
>> found on the web are these Euchre boards:
>>
>> http://www.acornwoodproducts.com/images/euchre.jpg
>>
>> They aren't the exact same configuration but this is the closest I've seen so
>> far. Anyone know why they would have four pegs if they are only tracking two
>> scores?
>
>Two pegs are used for each player in normal scoring because SOME PEOPLE
>(everyone) has a really tough time remembering exactly where the peg
>WAS, AFTER they have removed it from the board. With two pegs, one
>merely removes the back peg and advances it the appropriate number of
>places ahead of the peg that is in front. The peg that was in front now
>becomes the back peg. This helps to keep the game more civil! I
>think using two pegs makes sense for keeping track of the number of
>games won for the sdame reason. Some people take their Cribbage
>seriously (I had a friend who did)! It's a nice social game.
>
>Bill

Indeed. I have a Cribbage pegboard made from a slab of wood cut cross
section of a tree, all nicely varathaned and set up just tht way.
Double tracks, 4 pegs

Gunner

>
>
>> Maybe just two extra pegs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>>

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in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:50 AM

On 1/2/2014 8:43 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>
>> 3067. Specifically a "Metal Lumber" cutter for cutting the metal angle
>> iron that is used for building warehouse style storage in combination
>> with 2x4's and plywood for the storage surfaces.
>>
>> Typically the opposites side has a flat surface perpendicular to the
>> blade with an indexing pin to align the holes in the "metal lumber" so
>> that when you cut the material the pieces can be made the exact same
>> distance with out measuring.
>>
>> The link shows the cutter with a piece of metal lumber on the opposites
>> side.
>>
>> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/QJYAAMXQgb1RRpi0/$T2eC16F,!zoE9s5nc3nC
> BRRpiz2svQ~~60_35.JPG
>>
>> I have cut and built hundreds of bins using the is cutter.
>
>
>
> Thanks! Looks like you nailed another one, I'll pass this along to the owner of
> it.
>


In case he wants to know where to get the material for cutting and
assembly we used to buy this brand material specifically.

http://www.rel.u-szeged.hu/store/metal_lumber?shelving=1

Ll

Leon

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:21 AM

On 1/2/2014 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>
>
> Rob
>


3067. Specifically a "Metal Lumber" cutter for cutting the metal angle
iron that is used for building warehouse style storage in combination
with 2x4's and plywood for the storage surfaces.

Typically the opposites side has a flat surface perpendicular to the
blade with an indexing pin to align the holes in the "metal lumber" so
that when you cut the material the pieces can be made the exact same
distance with out measuring.

The link shows the cutter with a piece of metal lumber on the opposites
side.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/QJYAAMXQgb1RRpi0/$T2eC16F,!zoE9s5nc3nCBRRpiz2svQ~~60_35.JPG

I have cut and built hundreds of bins using the is cutter.

SD

"Stanley Daniel de Liver"

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 10:52 AM

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 03:57:40 -0000, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
> Some people take their Cribbage seriously (I had a friend who did)! It's
> a nice social game.

But Dominoes is (are?) violent.


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in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 10:19 PM

On 2014-01-02, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV

Posting in the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking -- no
matter which of the three cross-posted ones you see it in.

3067) *This* one I *know*.

It is for cutting structural angle iron to length. (Usually the
kind which has perforations along its length to bolt things to.

3068) To start with -- before going to the larger images website,
this has the look of telephone wiring.

A pity -- only the first of the images of this is on the
*larger* site. I would really have liked to see the other two
images at higher resolution -- especially the second one with
the relay contacts. O.K. I can zoom in enough. The contacts
do not look designed for either high voltage or high current.

It appears to be two relays, each of which switch the outermost
two terminals between the next two for the upper terminal and
the two nearest the middle for the lower terminal -- working
both ways in from the ends.

O.K. The three upper terminals are the connections to the relay
coils, which are the black columns above the multi-terminal
board, and below the upper terminal board. Center is probably
common to the two relays.

And the relay contacts are in the glass protective housing below.

Still likely to be either telephone, or perhaps telegraph signal
switching gear -- especially given the obvious lack of high
voltage or high current capability.

3069) Looks like a dispenser for something at least partially
cylindrical. Size is hard to judge, but it might work for
something like .38 special handgun cartridges. Likely not for
.45 Auto.

3070) No provisions for wiring on the back, so I guess that it is
a game board -- something like cribbage? Not sure whether it
has enough holes for that game -- I've never played it.

3071) I've never seen one quite like this before, but it is obviously
a circle cutter to go in a brace and bit type drill. (The
tapered square head at the top is a giveaway.)

3072) Looks like a wrench for rotating unfinished wood of say up
to 4" diameter or so -- perhaps with the bark still on.. The
spikes would not work well in metals -- nor too well with
plastics.

Now to post and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 3:02 AM

On 2014-01-02, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>
>>3071 is an adjustable hole cutter for a brace-and-bit type drill. That
>>looks to have a much easier to use clamp than the one I had. As ever,
>>several of the others look horribly familiar but I've no idea what they
>>are.
>
>
> Correct, these are used for cutting gaskets. The person who sent the
> photo would like to know why there is only one blade on this tool when
> typically gasket cutters have two blades as seen at the link below.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?
> q=antique+%22gasket+cutter%22&safe=off&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X
> &ei=sEHFUvCRJsOdyQHWwYHYCw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=784

No need for something running as slow as a brace-and-bit driven
one -- and easier to adjust for size if you are making a single cutout
at a time -- like to clear a piston/cylinder in a head gasket. (In a
drill press, you would want two cutters at the same radius to minimize
off-center weight vibration.)

Now -- with two cutters, you have two choices:

1) For a single hole -- either carefully adjust both cutters to
the same radius from the pivot point, or remove one of the
cutters. (If the latter was done with the one in the puzzle, it
might have been lost over the years.

2) For making a ring gasket -- adjust one for the OD and the other
for the ID. Probably best done with them on opposited sides of
the pilot. Two cuts at the same time.

Enjoy,
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in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

03/01/2014 3:11 AM

On 2014-01-02, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them
> on
> the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears
> that the tip is broken.
>
> http://imgur.com/ik069Em

Well ... the engraving in it looks like typical scrimshaw
engraving. (especially the bands at the ends of the ivory). Not sure
whether that is whale tooth ivory or elephant ivory, however.

If the round dots are copper, then it is work of the Copper
Eskimos. They tended to decorate their scrimshaw with embedded copper.

If scrimshaw, it could be intended to be purely decorative,
rather than functional.

Enjoy,
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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:37 AM

On 1/2/2014 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>
>
> Rob
>
3067, special purpose crimper of some kind?
3068, visual demo of an electrical relay
3069, belt carried doodad of some kind?
3070, sharpening stone?
3071, marking device, for scribing a line
a certain distance from edge of a board
3072, a very nicely made device, but not
sure what purpose.

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in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 7:52 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with 3067 and 3070 in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/kJWTV
>
>
> Rob


3070 is a cribbage board minus the pegs . Many have a sliding bottom
covering a compartment to store the pegs .
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in reply to Rob H. on 02/01/2014 1:05 AM

02/01/2014 8:38 AM

On 1/2/2014 5:35 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Someone just sent me the photos at the link below, I don't plan on posting them
> on
> the site but maybe someone here can identify it. The owner said that it appears
> that the tip is broken.
>
> http://imgur.com/ik069Em
>
Mechanical pencil with far too much "lead" showing?

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