I just got a new computer and needed to get it
off the floor and into a cabinet. After careful
measurement, I determined that the FF opening
was exactly 20 inches and my CPU 'box' was
around 18.75 inches.
OK. I'm starting to cipher. I want a full extension
tray so I can get to all the cables when I need to
(a definite step up from before). Went to the BORG
and bought a pair of 100#'s.
Got to thinking. If I lay these babies on their sides
(with the drawer side "up") it would only take about
a half-inch of cherished vertical height.
Plus, it a piece-o-cake install.
Thought some more...but would the pair support
100# in that orientation (CPU 50lb).
Hmmmm. Don't think so.
IIRC, Norm did something similar when he built
a kitchen island with 'recycling bins' a few years
ago.
Anybody ever try this?
Opinions?
Thanks.
Lou
--
You didn't mention if the 20" was the height or width. If it is the width,
the slides only take up 1 1/16" of width, so with a sliding shelf, you have
an extra 1/4" to play with. If the 20" is the height and you have a little
extra width to play with, you can drop your tray within 1/8" of the bottom
FF.
Preston
"Louis Tentromono" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:261120052044551644%[email protected]...
>
> I just got a new computer and needed to get it
> off the floor and into a cabinet. After careful
> measurement, I determined that the FF opening
> was exactly 20 inches and my CPU 'box' was
> around 18.75 inches.
>
> OK. I'm starting to cipher. I want a full extension
> tray so I can get to all the cables when I need to
> (a definite step up from before). Went to the BORG
> and bought a pair of 100#'s.
>
> Got to thinking. If I lay these babies on their sides
> (with the drawer side "up") it would only take about
> a half-inch of cherished vertical height.
>
> Plus, it a piece-o-cake install.
>
> Thought some more...but would the pair support
> 100# in that orientation (CPU " 50lb).
>
> Hmmmm. Don't think so.
>
> IIRC, Norm did something similar when he built
> a kitchen island with 'recycling bins' a few years
> ago.
>
> Anybody ever try this?
>
> Opinions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lou
>
> --
I looked it the Lee Valley cat. and saw the ones you probably bought
and another pair that is supposed to sit under the drawer. The side
mounts have 100# cap and the under drawer have 30#. Looking closely,
I'm having trouble seeing any difference between the two 'styles'.
There are correct ones for under mounts, but I can't think who has
them.
"Louis Tentromono" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:261120052044551644%[email protected]...
>
> I just got a new computer and needed to get it
> off the floor and into a cabinet. After careful
> measurement, I determined that the FF opening
> was exactly 20 inches and my CPU 'box' was
> around 18.75 inches.
>
> OK. I'm starting to cipher. I want a full extension
> tray so I can get to all the cables when I need to
> (a definite step up from before). Went to the BORG
> and bought a pair of 100#'s.
>
> Got to thinking. If I lay these babies on their sides
> (with the drawer side "up") it would only take about
> a half-inch of cherished vertical height.
>
> Plus, it a piece-o-cake install.
>
> Thought some more...but would the pair support
> 100# in that orientation (CPU " 50lb).
>
> Hmmmm. Don't think so.
>
> IIRC, Norm did something similar when he built
> a kitchen island with 'recycling bins' a few years
> ago.
>
> Anybody ever try this?
>
> Opinions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lou
>
> --
They won't be full extension any more as they will sag. Also the ball
bearings will not ride in their correct channels. If you put them on the
sides like they are designed your drawer can be 1/8" from the bottom. If you
do as you're suggesting the drawer bottom will be 3/8+ higher, the opposite
of what you're trying to acheve.
I know you've already spent the money, but they make slides specifically
for the purpose you seek. I have a pair on the slide out shelf in my
kitchen cabinet (I constructed the cabinets). I used the Accuride
slides, but I'm certain the other brands follow suit. These slides are
1/2 Thick as well (IIRC).
Louis Tentromono said the following on 11/26/2005 7:44 PM:
> I just got a new computer and needed to get it
> off the floor and into a cabinet. After careful
> measurement, I determined that the FF opening
> was exactly 20 inches and my CPU 'box' was
> around 18.75 inches.
>
> OK. I'm starting to cipher. I want a full extension
> tray so I can get to all the cables when I need to
> (a definite step up from before). Went to the BORG
> and bought a pair of 100#'s.
>
> Got to thinking. If I lay these babies on their sides
> (with the drawer side "up") it would only take about
> a half-inch of cherished vertical height.
>
> Plus, it a piece-o-cake install.
>
> Thought some more...but would the pair support
> 100# in that orientation (CPU 50lb).
>
> Hmmmm. Don't think so.
>
> IIRC, Norm did something similar when he built
> a kitchen island with 'recycling bins' a few years
> ago.
>
> Anybody ever try this?
>
> Opinions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lou
>
> --
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:44:55 -0500, Louis Tentromono <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>I just got a new computer and needed to get it
>off the floor and into a cabinet. After careful
>measurement, I determined that the FF opening
>was exactly 20 inches and my CPU 'box' was
>around 18.75 inches.
>
>OK. I'm starting to cipher. I want a full extension
>tray so I can get to all the cables when I need to
>(a definite step up from before). Went to the BORG
>and bought a pair of 100#'s.
>
>Got to thinking. If I lay these babies on their sides
>(with the drawer side "up") it would only take about
>a half-inch of cherished vertical height.
>
>Plus, it a piece-o-cake install.
>
>Thought some more...but would the pair support
>100# in that orientation (CPU 50lb).
>
>Hmmmm. Don't think so.
>
>IIRC, Norm did something similar when he built
>a kitchen island with 'recycling bins' a few years
>ago.
>
>Anybody ever try this?
>
>Opinions?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Lou
Take a close look at the drawings with attention to the shapes the
balls ride in. You'll see two tracks, that when installed as
intended, fully support the balls in a vertical orientation. Now,
turn it sideways. The gap between the fixed and the moveable parts
are now at the bottom and top of the balls. In other words, there's
less support. If this were a radial bearing, that'd be the thrust
direction. It's simply not made to be used this way.
However, I suspect they'd probably work, but at reduced capacity. How
much reduced? Who knows? And there'd probably be reduced life, but
under ordinary use I think that wouldn't be a problem.
They make slides for the purpose you want to use them in. Just return
what you bought and get a different pair.
"Louis Tentromono" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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