Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
Those I've seen seem to require a clean-shaven face. As I start doing more
in my shop, I find that sometimes I need more protection than is available
with just my dust collection system.
Thanks in advance.
Ernie Eden
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>, Ernie
Eden <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
While I don't have a specific brand, you'll need one with constant
positive airflow. Since a mask won't seal over your beard, the only
way to stop inflow when you inhale, is to ensure constant outflow.
Kevin
JGS wrote:
> I fit tested respirators for about 18 years and never once found a case where a
> non-clean shaven person had a proper fit. I won several cases of beer in that time
> whenever a bearded guy was sure it fit properly and made the bet. Once challenged
> by the appropriate irritant the lack of fit always became obvious. Cheers, Jg
>
> Gfretwell wrote:
>
>
>>If you are just talking about dust I haven't really had that much problem with
>>a regular mask and I am pretty hairy. Just adjust it up snug and let the sweat
>>do the sealing.
>>When I am using a real respirator shooting Imron or some other nasty stuff, I
>>wet the lips of the mask with a little vaseline. It's gummy but it does seal
>>pretty good.
>
>
the only thing that works well is LOTS of vasoline (bananna oil test).
I worked in Nuke power for a year and after 3 trips inside the
containment bldg I shaved my beard off. It took forever to clean the
vasoline out and it was easily contaminated. Before you ask, no I do
not glow in the dark.... anymore. :-)
I have the old 3M power visior and it is great! no dust, no fog but I
got mine before the price whent through the ceiling. There is one more
out now (I don't remember the name) in the under $200 range that has the
battery and filters on your belt and it NIOSH approved where the power
visior is not. I may put that one on my Christmas list.
BRuce
Michael Daly wrote:
> On 15-Oct-2003, BRuce <BRuce> wrote:
>
>
>> There is one more
>>out now (I don't remember the name) in the under $200 range that has the
>>battery and filters on your belt and it NIOSH approved where the power
>>visior is not. I may put that one on my Christmas lis
>
>
> The Triton? I saw one a couple of weeks ago and was impressed. Looks
> well made. I kinda wish it had generic batteries so I could choose
> between NiCd and NiMH - the former being better for continual use, the
> latter for occasional use. The service rep opened up the filter/battery
> pack to show me. The batteries are soldered-in D cells, NiCd. They
> could just as easily made a D cell compartment to take any cell.
>
> Must be a reasonalbe product if that's all I can complain about. However,
> I haven't used one. www.triton.net.au
>
> Mike
that might of been the one but I didn't see the NIOSH rating nor did I
remember the hearing protection. I will check it out though, look good.
there are several "batteyr stores" that can make replacments and add
connectors... That might be revenu stream for a 3rd party. :-)
BRuce
If you are just talking about dust I haven't really had that much problem with
a regular mask and I am pretty hairy. Just adjust it up snug and let the sweat
do the sealing.
When I am using a real respirator shooting Imron or some other nasty stuff, I
wet the lips of the mask with a little vaseline. It's gummy but it does seal
pretty good.
I fit tested respirators for about 18 years and never once found a case where a
non-clean shaven person had a proper fit. I won several cases of beer in that time
whenever a bearded guy was sure it fit properly and made the bet. Once challenged
by the appropriate irritant the lack of fit always became obvious. Cheers, Jg
Gfretwell wrote:
> If you are just talking about dust I haven't really had that much problem with
> a regular mask and I am pretty hairy. Just adjust it up snug and let the sweat
> do the sealing.
> When I am using a real respirator shooting Imron or some other nasty stuff, I
> wet the lips of the mask with a little vaseline. It's gummy but it does seal
> pretty good.
On 15-Oct-2003, BRuce <BRuce> wrote:
> There is one more
> out now (I don't remember the name) in the under $200 range that has the
> battery and filters on your belt and it NIOSH approved where the power
> visior is not. I may put that one on my Christmas lis
The Triton? I saw one a couple of weeks ago and was impressed. Looks
well made. I kinda wish it had generic batteries so I could choose
between NiCd and NiMH - the former being better for continual use, the
latter for occasional use. The service rep opened up the filter/battery
pack to show me. The batteries are soldered-in D cells, NiCd. They
could just as easily made a D cell compartment to take any cell.
Must be a reasonalbe product if that's all I can complain about. However,
I haven't used one. www.triton.net.au
Mike
In article <4cfjb.114986$ko%[email protected]>,
|>
|> The Triton? I saw one a couple of weeks ago and was impressed. Looks
|> well made. I kinda wish it had generic batteries so I could choose
|> between NiCd and NiMH - the former being better for continual use, the
|> latter for occasional use. The service rep opened up the filter/battery
|> pack to show me. The batteries are soldered-in D cells, NiCd. They
|> could just as easily made a D cell compartment to take any cell.
|>
|> Must be a reasonalbe product if that's all I can complain about. However,
|> I haven't used one. www.triton.net.au
I have only seen the ads, but the Triton looks good. $300 list, $270 street price.
I don't understand why the price is so high in the US. The street price in Britain is
150 UK Pounds, or about $225 US (and I think that includes VAT, so it would be less for
export.) It's almost worth ordering one from England adn
buying an adapter for the charger.
--
--David Wittenberg
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:40:53 -0400, JGS <[email protected]> wrote:
> I fit tested respirators for about 18 years and never once found a case where a
>non-clean shaven person had a proper fit. I won several cases of beer in that time
>whenever a bearded guy was sure it fit properly and made the bet. Once challenged
>by the appropriate irritant the lack of fit always became obvious. Cheers, Jg
>
yep. some sawdust is course enough that the fit is good enough. but sometimes it
is not.
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Ernie Eden wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
There is something called a Resp-O-Rator that might do the trick. Here's
one link: http://www.hartvilletool.com/product.php?search_id=53199 These
are not yet NIOSH aproved yet but but I've heard of people using them.
try searching groups.google.com and the archives at woodcentral.com
jw
You could do like Bill, don't inhale ;>)
Ernie Eden wrote:
>
> Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
> Those I've seen seem to require a clean-shaven face. As I start doing more
> in my shop, I find that sometimes I need more protection than is available
> with just my dust collection system.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ernie Eden
> [email protected]
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Check out the Resp-o-rator:
http://www.hartvilletool.com/product.php?search_id=53199
and a mini one at:
http://www.hartvilletool.com/product.php?search_id=94145
I have one, it works fine. I use it while woodworking and airbrushing.
Only water based, this is only a dust filter.
At $50 bucks, it beats $250 for an air visor, or $450 for an air helmet.
Ernie Eden wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
> Those I've seen seem to require a clean-shaven face. As I start doing more
> in my shop, I find that sometimes I need more protection than is available
> with just my dust collection system.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ernie Eden
> [email protected]
>
>
No masks but a sharp razor should do the trick, only problem where are all
the dust mites going to live?
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"Ernie Eden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
> Those I've seen seem to require a clean-shaven face. As I start doing
more
> in my shop, I find that sometimes I need more protection than is available
> with just my dust collection system.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ernie Eden
> [email protected]
>
>
"Kevin Craig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, Ernie
> Eden <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
>
> While I don't have a specific brand, you'll need one with constant
> positive airflow. Since a mask won't seal over your beard, the only
> way to stop inflow when you inhale, is to ensure constant outflow.
>
> Kevin
There are plenty of positive pressure and/or air flow masks available. The
best type (IMHO) is the battery operated type, which has a battery, filter
and fan on the hip, a hose to a helmet which has a face shield with an
elasticated band that snugs up around the neck and face. Try a web lookup on
"powered respirators".
There are other types which require filtered air from outside the working
area, but the hoses are a pain to work with.
Dont use an ordinary compressor to provide you with compressed air - too
much oil in it usually and that is more harmful than most wood dusts.
I have a beard and can get a seal with silicone face masks, but not with
rubber ones. But its not a seal that I would trust if my life depended on
it.
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replying to Roger Martin, ferd_berful wrote:
I have a Turbine Products Breath-Cool
http://www.turbineproducts.com/breathecool-ii-supplied-air-respirator-system-w-vinyl-hood/
~ $500
It works well for me.
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Ernie Eden <[email protected]> wrote:
: Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
: Those I've seen seem to require a clean-shaven face. As I start doing more
: in my shop, I find that sometimes I need more protection than is available
: with just my dust collection system.
I have a short-cropped beard (and extremely fine hair, which I think has
a lot to do with it), and find that the Dustfoe does well for
nuisance dust. I also successfully used a half-face respirator while
spraying the inside of a new house last Fall, using vaseline to cover my
hair at the seal point. But if you want to protect
your lungs fully from fine dust, you should get a NIOSH certified
air filtration unit. I have the unit sold with the hardhat by
http://www.airwareamerica.com
It's the Airstream system. Not cheap, but cheaper than new lungs.
You can get a similar system without the hardhat.
Another good source is:
www.envirosafety.com
-- Andy Barss
Ernie Eden wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
> Those I've seen seem to require a clean-shaven face. As I start doing
> more in my shop, I find that sometimes I need more protection than is
> available with just my dust collection system.
One of these days I want to get a Racal hood. They cost more than any two
machines I own put together though.
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:59:20 GMT, "Ernie Eden" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Anyone have any ideas on dust masks, etc. for someone with a full beard?
>Those I've seen seem to require a clean-shaven face. As I start doing more
>in my shop, I find that sometimes I need more protection than is available
>with just my dust collection system.
a well designed DC will take care of almost all if not all dust. I have very
little get in my nose anymore and I work with tropicals that really fling the
dust. in the long run the dc route is far more effective then any other method.
far more comfortable too.
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