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"Steven Bliss"

30/05/2004 12:10 AM

Greene & Greene

Anyone out there with a source of Greene & Greene woodworking design plans?
I've recently come across a couple of plans in magazines, and plan to build.
I've done the google search, and nothing except their Gamble house they
designed. I don't want a house plan, just furniture, etc. Help, please.


This topic has 16 replies

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"Rumpty"

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

30/05/2004 8:35 PM

>I got to looking at the Shultz book

What is Larry?

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"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 30 May 2004 18:32:01 +0100, Andy Dingley
> <[email protected]> stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>
> >On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:28:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
> ><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.google.com/search?q=greene+%26+greene+furniture+plans
> >>Gorgeous stuff, wot?
> >
> >Risky search though. Like Stickley, there's an awful lot of "Greene
> >and Greene" out there on the web that's anything but authentic in
> >style. Be careful, and compare any plans you find to a decent
> >coffee-table photo book of their original works.
>
> I got to looking at the Shultz book and am seeing more and more
> of why you assail him so. Some of those things are pure crap,
> like the spline groove showing on the leg-front of the somnae.
>
> The old PM Mission Furniture book came out this morning and I
> decided, once again, to change my plan of styles on the
> dictionary/encyclopedia stand here in my office. I don't want
> the tall stand-and-read style after all and may make an octagonal
> tabouret after all. It's about the right size to keep my Webster's
> Hernia Edition and Enco/MSC/McMasters cats off the floor. Doug's
> Elegant Tables book came out, too, so...
>
> Once the oak is cut, I'll have scraps for testing this nastyass
> ammonia. The 30% stuff AIN'T yo mama's 'monia. That's for sure.
> Long sleeves, nitrile gloves, respirator, face shield, and proper
> positioning of my body diagonally upwind of the box -outside- the
> shop are all planned for this project.
>
>
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> Please return Stewardess to her original upright position.
> --------------------------------------
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>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

29/05/2004 8:28 PM

On Sun, 30 May 2004 00:10:50 GMT, "Steven Bliss" <[email protected]>
stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:

>Anyone out there with a source of Greene & Greene woodworking design plans?
>I've recently come across a couple of plans in magazines, and plan to build.
>I've done the google search, and nothing except their Gamble house they
>designed. I don't want a house plan, just furniture, etc. Help, please.

http://www.google.com/search?q=greene+%26+greene+furniture+plans
Gorgeous stuff, wot?


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LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

29/05/2004 8:35 PM

On Sat, 29 May 2004 22:17:15 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:

>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Greene-style-furniture/
>
>http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/architecture/greeneandgreene/index.html This one
>has quite a few original drawings which you can look at.

Most Excellent, sir!


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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

31/05/2004 8:12 PM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 12:17:13 -0500, Robert Galloway
<[email protected]> wrote:

>My brother the agronomist works with anhydrous ammonia fertilizer.

Don't even think it.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

31/05/2004 7:43 AM

On Mon, 31 May 2004 10:48:46 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:

>On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:14:35 -0700, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>I got to looking at the Shultz book and am seeing more and more
>>of why you assail him so.
>
>You mean this ?
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1558704906/codesmiths
>
>
>>Once the oak is cut, I'll have scraps for testing this nastyass
>>ammonia. The 30% stuff AIN'T yo mama's 'monia.
>
>I use 26%. If I'm quick I just throw it in the box unshielded, but
>then I do have a nice ammonia fuming box with a proper lid. If I have
>to full around re-stacking things in it while the dish is open, then I
>use a full-face mask (mil surplus). I don't bother with gloves.

This stuff is from a surveyor's supply store and is actually 29.4%
When I got the jug home, it was pooched out and didn't sit properly,
so I took it outside and cracked the lid. The fumes on my fingertip
let me know that I wanted to use gloves whenever I worked with it
in the future.


>BTW - there is no point in wearing a half-face mask with ammonia. The
>stuff's main point of entry is your eyes anyway.

Good point. (Now where'd I put my diving mask? Goggles are holey.)


>On the subject of fume control, can anyone think of workshop uses for
>a small lab fume cupboard ? It's maybe 2' x 2'6" wide. Friend of
>mine has a couple looking for homes - they're very cute, but I really
>can't think of a use offhand.

Shipping'd be a real bear from Over There.

Happy Memorial Day, guys.

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"Rumpty"

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

30/05/2004 8:32 PM

>Long sleeves, nitrile gloves, respirator, face shield, and proper
positioning of my body diagonally upwind of the box -outside- the
shop are all planned for this project.


Ain't you heard about Minwax.........?

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"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 30 May 2004 18:32:01 +0100, Andy Dingley
> <[email protected]> stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>
> >On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:28:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
> ><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.google.com/search?q=greene+%26+greene+furniture+plans
> >>Gorgeous stuff, wot?
> >
> >Risky search though. Like Stickley, there's an awful lot of "Greene
> >and Greene" out there on the web that's anything but authentic in
> >style. Be careful, and compare any plans you find to a decent
> >coffee-table photo book of their original works.
>
> I got to looking at the Shultz book and am seeing more and more
> of why you assail him so. Some of those things are pure crap,
> like the spline groove showing on the leg-front of the somnae.
>
> The old PM Mission Furniture book came out this morning and I
> decided, once again, to change my plan of styles on the
> dictionary/encyclopedia stand here in my office. I don't want
> the tall stand-and-read style after all and may make an octagonal
> tabouret after all. It's about the right size to keep my Webster's
> Hernia Edition and Enco/MSC/McMasters cats off the floor. Doug's
> Elegant Tables book came out, too, so...
>
> Once the oak is cut, I'll have scraps for testing this nastyass
> ammonia. The 30% stuff AIN'T yo mama's 'monia. That's for sure.
> Long sleeves, nitrile gloves, respirator, face shield, and proper
> positioning of my body diagonally upwind of the box -outside- the
> shop are all planned for this project.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Please return Stewardess to her original upright position.
> --------------------------------------
> http://www.diversify.com Tagline-based T-shirts!
>

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

30/05/2004 12:52 AM

The latest American Woodworker has a plan for a small table.

Preston
"Steven Bliss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone out there with a source of Greene & Greene woodworking design
plans?
> I've recently come across a couple of plans in magazines, and plan to
build.
> I've done the google search, and nothing except their Gamble house they
> designed. I don't want a house plan, just furniture, etc. Help, please.
>
>

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

31/05/2004 11:11 AM

>This book contains some of the ugliest pseudo-Mission pastiche I've yet
seen. There is no craft in its making, and no teaching in the text. Please
avoid this book

You had fun with this Andy!

FWIW One of the best sources for Greene and Greene is the Virtual Archives
site I mentioned above
http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/architecture/greeneandgreene/index.html

There are detailed original drawings which can be resized and printed.

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"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:14:35 -0700, Larry Jaques
> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
> >I got to looking at the Shultz book and am seeing more and more
> >of why you assail him so.
>
> You mean this ?
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1558704906/codesmiths
>
>
> >Once the oak is cut, I'll have scraps for testing this nastyass
> >ammonia. The 30% stuff AIN'T yo mama's 'monia.
>
> I use 26%. If I'm quick I just throw it in the box unshielded, but
> then I do have a nice ammonia fuming box with a proper lid. If I have
> to full around re-stacking things in it while the dish is open, then I
> use a full-face mask (mil surplus). I don't bother with gloves.
>
> BTW - there is no point in wearing a half-face mask with ammonia. The
> stuff's main point of entry is your eyes anyway.
>
>
> On the subject of fume control, can anyone think of workshop uses for
> a small lab fume cupboard ? It's maybe 2' x 2'6" wide. Friend of
> mine has a couple looking for homes - they're very cute, but I really
> can't think of a use offhand.
>
>
> --
> Smert' spamionam

SB

"Steven Bliss"

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

30/05/2004 1:44 AM

Started that this weekend! :-)
"Preston Andreas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The latest American Woodworker has a plan for a small table.
>
> Preston
> "Steven Bliss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Anyone out there with a source of Greene & Greene woodworking design
> plans?
> > I've recently come across a couple of plans in magazines, and plan to
> build.
> > I've done the google search, and nothing except their Gamble house they
> > designed. I don't want a house plan, just furniture, etc. Help,
please.
> >
> >
>
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

30/05/2004 3:14 PM

On Sun, 30 May 2004 18:32:01 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:

>On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:28:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.google.com/search?q=greene+%26+greene+furniture+plans
>>Gorgeous stuff, wot?
>
>Risky search though. Like Stickley, there's an awful lot of "Greene
>and Greene" out there on the web that's anything but authentic in
>style. Be careful, and compare any plans you find to a decent
>coffee-table photo book of their original works.

I got to looking at the Shultz book and am seeing more and more
of why you assail him so. Some of those things are pure crap,
like the spline groove showing on the leg-front of the somnae.

The old PM Mission Furniture book came out this morning and I
decided, once again, to change my plan of styles on the
dictionary/encyclopedia stand here in my office. I don't want
the tall stand-and-read style after all and may make an octagonal
tabouret after all. It's about the right size to keep my Webster's
Hernia Edition and Enco/MSC/McMasters cats off the floor. Doug's
Elegant Tables book came out, too, so...

Once the oak is cut, I'll have scraps for testing this nastyass
ammonia. The 30% stuff AIN'T yo mama's 'monia. That's for sure.
Long sleeves, nitrile gloves, respirator, face shield, and proper
positioning of my body diagonally upwind of the box -outside- the
shop are all planned for this project.


----------------------------------------------------------
Please return Stewardess to her original upright position.
--------------------------------------
http://www.diversify.com Tagline-based T-shirts!

RG

Robert Galloway

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

31/05/2004 12:17 PM

Now you've got me thinking. My brother the agronomist works with
anhydrous ammonia fertilizer. Got to ask him how hard it would be to
get a propane cylinder filled with anhydrous, assuming the pressures are
close and it would be safe. Seems like a much handier way to deal with
the stuff than as a solution. Anybody had any experience with
anhydrous? I do know that the trailer tanks have to be brought in and
secured these days as the meth? makers use the stuff also. If they can
steal it in the middle of the night, must be a handy way it could be
dispensed to us.

rhg



Rumpty wrote:

>>This book contains some of the ugliest pseudo-Mission pastiche I've yet
>
> seen. There is no craft in its making, and no teaching in the text. Please
> avoid this book
>
> You had fun with this Andy!
>
> FWIW One of the best sources for Greene and Greene is the Virtual Archives
> site I mentioned above
> http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/architecture/greeneandgreene/index.html
>
> There are detailed original drawings which can be resized and printed.
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
> Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
>
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>
>
> "Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:14:35 -0700, Larry Jaques
>><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I got to looking at the Shultz book and am seeing more and more
>>>of why you assail him so.
>>
>>You mean this ?
>>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1558704906/codesmiths
>>
>>
>>
>>>Once the oak is cut, I'll have scraps for testing this nastyass
>>>ammonia. The 30% stuff AIN'T yo mama's 'monia.
>>
>>I use 26%. If I'm quick I just throw it in the box unshielded, but
>>then I do have a nice ammonia fuming box with a proper lid. If I have
>>to full around re-stacking things in it while the dish is open, then I
>>use a full-face mask (mil surplus). I don't bother with gloves.
>>
>>BTW - there is no point in wearing a half-face mask with ammonia. The
>>stuff's main point of entry is your eyes anyway.
>>
>>
>>On the subject of fume control, can anyone think of workshop uses for
>>a small lab fume cupboard ? It's maybe 2' x 2'6" wide. Friend of
>>mine has a couple looking for homes - they're very cute, but I really
>>can't think of a use offhand.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Smert' spamionam
>
>
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

30/05/2004 9:54 PM

On Sun, 30 May 2004 20:32:50 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:

>>Long sleeves, nitrile gloves, respirator, face shield, and proper
>positioning of my body diagonally upwind of the box -outside- the
>shop are all planned for this project.
>
>
>Ain't you heard about Minwax.........?

Yes, but I decided to do it properly INSTEAD. ;)

The book was Andy Schultz' "Classic Arts & Crafts Furniture
You Can Build".


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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

30/05/2004 6:32 PM

On Sat, 29 May 2004 20:28:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>http://www.google.com/search?q=greene+%26+greene+furniture+plans
>Gorgeous stuff, wot?

Risky search though. Like Stickley, there's an awful lot of "Greene
and Greene" out there on the web that's anything but authentic in
style. Be careful, and compare any plans you find to a decent
coffee-table photo book of their original works.

--
Smert' spamionam

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

31/05/2004 10:48 AM

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:14:35 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>I got to looking at the Shultz book and am seeing more and more
>of why you assail him so.

You mean this ?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1558704906/codesmiths


>Once the oak is cut, I'll have scraps for testing this nastyass
>ammonia. The 30% stuff AIN'T yo mama's 'monia.

I use 26%. If I'm quick I just throw it in the box unshielded, but
then I do have a nice ammonia fuming box with a proper lid. If I have
to full around re-stacking things in it while the dish is open, then I
use a full-face mask (mil surplus). I don't bother with gloves.

BTW - there is no point in wearing a half-face mask with ammonia. The
stuff's main point of entry is your eyes anyway.


On the subject of fume control, can anyone think of workshop uses for
a small lab fume cupboard ? It's maybe 2' x 2'6" wide. Friend of
mine has a couple looking for homes - they're very cute, but I really
can't think of a use offhand.


--
Smert' spamionam

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

29/05/2004 10:17 PM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Greene-style-furniture/

http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/architecture/greeneandgreene/index.html This one
has quite a few original drawings which you can look at.

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Rumpty

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"Steven Bliss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone out there with a source of Greene & Greene woodworking design
plans?
> I've recently come across a couple of plans in magazines, and plan to
build.
> I've done the google search, and nothing except their Gamble house they
> designed. I don't want a house plan, just furniture, etc. Help, please.
>
>

nn

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 30/05/2004 12:10 AM

31/05/2004 7:04 AM

Ceramics class had a fume hood for spraying glaze on small bisque
fired stuff. Presuming hood equals cupboard.

On Mon, 31 May 2004 10:48:46 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On the subject of fume control, can anyone think of workshop uses for
>a small lab fume cupboard ? It's maybe 2' x 2'6" wide. Friend of
>mine has a couple looking for homes - they're very cute, but I really
>can't think of a use offhand.


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