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"firedamage"

28/02/2006 7:24 AM

fire damage

I have had some fire damage in my kitchen. The cabinets over the stove
have heavy smoke damage. They are stained oak cabines. I am
interested in doing a white pickle on all the cabinets in the kitchen.
If I sand good enough will this cover the smoke damaged cabinets?
I just want to see the wood grain in the white paint or stain. Any
suggestions?


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Jj

"Josh"

in reply to "firedamage" on 28/02/2006 7:24 AM

28/02/2006 8:29 AM


firedamage wrote:
> I have had some fire damage in my kitchen. The cabinets over the stove
> have heavy smoke damage. They are stained oak cabines. I am
> interested in doing a white pickle on all the cabinets in the kitchen.
> If I sand good enough will this cover the smoke damaged cabinets?
> I just want to see the wood grain in the white paint or stain. Any
> suggestions?

It might take a good bit of sanding, but that should work. Most likely
the stain will have penetrated deeper than the smoke. Be prepared to
work hard. If you don't have one already, get a random orbit sander.

If your cabinets are made out of plywood, the outside oak veneer can be
quite thin. Your biggest challenge may be sanding deep enough to
remove the stain, but not so deep that you break through the veneer.
Hopefully the doors and faceframes are real wood.

One other potentially easier possibility that may save you a lot of
hassle and mess: Consider buying a couple of rolls of iron-on or PSA
oak veneer (e.g.
http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=802-058 - that's a
24"x96" roll, but you can also get it in 2.75" x 25' rolls). It's real
wood (but real thin) that you can cut with scissors and glue onto the
face frames. You can just cut out pieces to match the existing rails
and stiles of the face frame, as well as any large expanses of oak
plywood on the sides of the cabinets. Then you can use oak
edge-banding veneer around edges of the wood
(http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=934-946). When
you're done, the existing cabinets will look like brand new virgin oak,
and you can finish them any way you want. It takes stain just like
solid wood. You'll still have to do the doors and drawers by sanding
and refinishing, but those are likely to be solid wood, and you can
remove them and do the dirty work in your garage, basement, etc.

Josh

bc

"booger"

in reply to "firedamage" on 28/02/2006 7:24 AM

28/02/2006 4:38 PM

Something else you need to consider is that during a fire, depending on what
was burning, there can be large amounts of acid in the smoke that may have a
really nasty reaction to any new stain/finish you might apply. Check with
the local fire department and see if someone can point you to someone that
specializes in repairing fire damage. They might be able to give you some
better info.




"firedamage" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have had some fire damage in my kitchen. The cabinets over the stove
> have heavy smoke damage. They are stained oak cabines. I am
> interested in doing a white pickle on all the cabinets in the kitchen.
> If I sand good enough will this cover the smoke damaged cabinets?
> I just want to see the wood grain in the white paint or stain. Any
> suggestions?
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "firedamage" on 28/02/2006 7:24 AM

28/02/2006 3:56 PM


"firedamage" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have had some fire damage in my kitchen. The cabinets over the stove
> have heavy smoke damage. They are stained oak cabines. I am
> interested in doing a white pickle on all the cabinets in the kitchen.
> If I sand good enough will this cover the smoke damaged cabinets?
> I just want to see the wood grain in the white paint or stain. Any
> suggestions?
>

Hard to say here as I suspect that your cabinets are actually Oak veneer
plywood. Sanding too much could go all the way through the Oak veneer.
Proceed with caution with the knowledge that the veneer could only about
1/16" thick at best.

dd

dgadams

in reply to "firedamage" on 28/02/2006 7:24 AM

01/03/2006 8:35 PM

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:24:05 -0800, firedamage wrote:

> I have had some fire damage in my kitchen. The cabinets over the stove
> have heavy smoke damage. They are stained oak cabines. I am
> interested in doing a white pickle on all the cabinets in the kitchen.
> If I sand good enough will this cover the smoke damaged cabinets?
> I just want to see the wood grain in the white paint or stain. Any
> suggestions?

Have a friend who left a candle burning. It was on a glass table with a
small plastic boom box. The BB caught and burned. The smoke from the
burning plastic coated itself into the walls and cabinets in the kitchen.
While it was only smoke damage, they couldn't get the smoke smell out and
had to replace the wallboard and some of the cabinets closest to the fire.
As another poster mentioned smoke can be very acidic which can cause
problems with refinishing. Your situation may not be as bad, but if you
have any doubts I'd suggest consulting with a professional smoke and fire
restoration service. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

D.G. Adams


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