On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 01:07:53 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:26:51 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>> seeing it):
>>>
>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>> Looks like a "rough and ready" build. I've seen worse - but I've seen
>> a LOT better. It's realistically a 35 dollar piece on a good day.
>> (around here anyway)
>
>How much "capacity" do you think it has? I mean, seeing as it was
>designed for a refrigerator. I assume it doesn't use oil but also
>doesn't have a dual-regulator.
>How much pressure is a refrigerator compressor designed to create? I
>find it a real curious piece! ; )
They use oil - and they quite readilly put out 120psi. We had one at
our old car club when I was a youngster. 3HP electric motor, an old
refrig compressot, and the fuel tank off a semi. Coiuld paint a car
with it (with a good air /oil separator) and ran a small sand blater
as well as any air tools we had.
On 2/2/2014 12:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 2/2/2014 12:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 2/2/2014 9:50 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2014 11:26 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>>> seeing it):
>>>>
>>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>>
>>> Ridiculous.
>>>
>>> The electrical cord was lamp cord.
>>> That's a rube goldberg and needs a lot of work.
>>>
>>
>> It was a refrigerator compressor. It ran on lampcord for years, just
>> like the one in your house. assuming, of course, you have a
>> refrigerator.
>
> Don't know about you, but my refrig used a heavier cord,
> In the days of my childhood it used a heavier cord.
>
> More like 16 or 14 gauge, not 18 gauge.
>
Looks like at least 16 gauge to me, baybe 14. Neither of us knows for
sure, but evidently it worked.
On 2/2/2014 11:10 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/2/2014 9:50 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 2/1/2014 11:26 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>> seeing it):
>>>
>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>
>> Ridiculous.
>>
>> The electrical cord was lamp cord.
>> That's a rube goldberg and needs a lot of work.
>>
>
> It was a refrigerator compressor. It ran on lampcord for years, just
> like the one in your house. assuming, of course, you have a refrigerator.
I hope that you're posting tongue in cheek, Ed. That ain't no household
refrigerator compressor and, even if it was, it would have something
heavier than zip cord.
Who knows what sized motor it had on it when it WAS used as a
refrigerator (probably a large store unit) but even the motor on it now
is likely to require a 14 or 12 ga electrical cord.
More power if the guy gets his $75 but then there IS a sucker born every
minute.<G>
"Bill" wrote:
> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might
> enjoy
> seeing it):
>
> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
-----------------------------------------------
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Takes all kinds.
-----------------------------------------------
"Swingman" wrote:
> Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged
> and leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle
> them into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning
> their daily bread bread. Whereas the current crop of urban
> cool/pavement traveling fauna would starve to death if they couldn't
> buy their food wrapped in saran wrap while they waited on the
> government to bail them out.
>
> Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it, sent a
> SWAT team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the
> family dog in the process.
--------------------------------------------------
Poor baby, tummy feel all better now?
Lew
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 00:41:22 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>Looks like a "rough and ready" build. I've seen worse - but I've seen
>a LOT better. It's realistically a 35 dollar piece on a good day.
>(around here anyway)
$75, $35, give it some more time and maybe he will pay that for
someone to take it away.
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 14:37:35 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 2/2/2014 2:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 2/2/2014 12:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 2/2/2014 12:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 2/2/2014 9:50 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>> On 2/1/2014 11:26 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>>>>> seeing it):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>>
>>>>> The electrical cord was lamp cord.
>>>>> That's a rube goldberg and needs a lot of work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was a refrigerator compressor. It ran on lampcord for years, just
>>>> like the one in your house. assuming, of course, you have a
>>>> refrigerator.
>>>
>>> Don't know about you, but my refrig used a heavier cord,
>>> In the days of my childhood it used a heavier cord.
>>>
>>> More like 16 or 14 gauge, not 18 gauge.
>>>
>>
>> Looks like at least 16 gauge to me, baybe 14. Neither of us knows for
>> sure, but evidently it worked.
>>
>
>I would say that's 18 gauge.
Your eyes are a lot better than mine.
On 2/2/2014 1:54 PM, Bill wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 2/1/2014 11:13 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> "Bill" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>>> seeing it):
>>>>
>>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Takes all kinds.
>>
>> Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged and
>> leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle them
>> into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning their
>> daily bread bread. Whereas the current crop of urban cool/pavement
>> traveling fauna would starve to death if they couldn't buy their food
>> wrapped in saran wrap while they waited on the government to bail them
>> out.
>>
>> Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it, sent a SWAT
>> team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the family dog
>> in the process.
>>
>
> I just wrote the seller a thoughtful note reflecting some of what you
> wrote above--the ingenuity and "get things done" spirit that the
> "compressor builder" surely had, requesting more information about the
> compressor builder. I'll provide an update if he gets back to me. My
> bet would go on the outcome that says he was a "FARMER"!
Bless your heart, Bubba ... to me just the sight of that thing brought
back memories of a youth spent in a culture of self sufficiency and self
reliance, where you wasted nothing, lived and took care of your own by
your wits, hard work, and common sense.
Judging by the whining, crying BS we saw recently during last weeks 1"
of snow, we've come a long way ... all down.
Good to see someone recognize the spirit behind what that contraption
represented. You seem to be in a minority. My hats off to you!
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Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:26:51 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>> seeing it):
>>>
>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>> Looks like a "rough and ready" build. I've seen worse - but I've seen
>> a LOT better. It's realistically a 35 dollar piece on a good day.
>> (around here anyway)
>
> How much "capacity" do you think it has? I mean, seeing as it was
> designed for a refrigerator. I assume it doesn't use oil but also
> doesn't have a dual-regulator.
> How much pressure is a refrigerator compressor designed to create? I find
> it a real curious piece! ; )
That old compressor may run another 50 years. Had an almost identical one
on an old AC system in a studio years ago and got plenty of practice
keeping it running. Unlike current many modern style compressors, those are
definitely, and easily, reparable.
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On 2/9/2014 12:49 AM, Bill wrote:
> He and I dug and poured the foundation for this house together, and over
> the years added rooms and improvements and various do-it-yourself
> activities. He was active along with my older stepbrother in the
> development of one of the first hydrostats for zero-turn lawnmowers,
> which was sold to Art Evans of Dixie Chopper before they grew into the
> larger company they became. Indeed, an interesting man, and the
> compressor was one of his many cobbled-together inventions that got the
> job done without heading to Lowe's with a credit card in hand.
>
> So. I was wrong in my guess that he was a farmer, but I thought his
> choice of words--"cobbled-together" reminded me of those that Swingman used.
This guy appears to have been better educated, with his HS degree, than
most college graduates today ... and a damned sight more useful to
himself, and the world around him, by not being totally reliant on
someone else's labors.
While understandable that modern conveniences and culture puts pay to
much of the necessity for this type of self reliance, it is remarkable
and sad, when viewed with an age based perspective, to look around and
see so little of that, which was instrumental in making this country
exceptional, exhibited in today's culture.
</rant>
Thanks for the follow up.
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy=20
>=20
> seeing it):
> =20
> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
Back in the late fifties, a neighborhood kid made a compressor out of an ol=
d refrigerator and a tank. He primarily used to spray his auto engine with =
Lestoil - and then hose it down. Many of the neighborhood youngsters clean =
their motors. It left everything spotless.
My brother took his TR-2 in for work, and the mechanic was amazed. He'd nev=
er seen an engine so clean.
So, if you have an old TR-2, think about buying this .....
On 2/1/2014 11:13 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Bill" wrote:
>
>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>> seeing it):
>>
>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
> -----------------------------------------------
> Takes all kinds.
Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged and
leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle them
into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning their
daily bread bread. Whereas the current crop of urban cool/pavement
traveling fauna would starve to death if they couldn't buy their food
wrapped in saran wrap while they waited on the government to bail them out.
Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it, sent a SWAT
team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the family dog in
the process.
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On 2/2/2014 2:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/2/2014 12:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 2/2/2014 12:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 2/2/2014 9:50 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> On 2/1/2014 11:26 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>>>> seeing it):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>>>
>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>> The electrical cord was lamp cord.
>>>> That's a rube goldberg and needs a lot of work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It was a refrigerator compressor. It ran on lampcord for years, just
>>> like the one in your house. assuming, of course, you have a
>>> refrigerator.
>>
>> Don't know about you, but my refrig used a heavier cord,
>> In the days of my childhood it used a heavier cord.
>>
>> More like 16 or 14 gauge, not 18 gauge.
>>
>
> Looks like at least 16 gauge to me, baybe 14. Neither of us knows for
> sure, but evidently it worked.
>
I would say that's 18 gauge.
--
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On 2/27/2014 3:52 PM, Bill wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Morgans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>
>>>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>>>>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>>>>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>>>>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>>>>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>>>>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>>>>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the
>>>>> rotor?
>>>> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it.
>>>> These types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
>>>> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot.
>>>> Yours is,
>>>> with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>>>>
>>>> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made
>>>> it, and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
>>> Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
>>> humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
>>> $18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
>>> money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
>>> entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
>>> being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at
>>> all. You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for
>>> now. It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
>>>
>> Yeahbut Bill - why would you not take his advice and just try to get a
>> new
>> motor?
>
> Mike, I spent some good quality time with the humidifier reattaching
> the fan blade. I roto-cut the top to get to it since I didn't have a
> "spanner" driver, then when back
> and snugged it up with some electrical tape. I feel like I won the
> battle thus far. I didn't feel that Jim was advising me (was far as
> whether to repair it or now), he was just telling me how it is...
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
Bill do you have a fairly new house?
If you do, you don't want a humidifier. Too many of the houses today are
so tight, that you are introducing a problem (mold).
If it's an old house, it's drafty and not an issue.
Just an FYI.
--
Jeff
On 2/2/2014 12:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/2/2014 9:50 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 2/1/2014 11:26 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>> seeing it):
>>>
>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>
>> Ridiculous.
>>
>> The electrical cord was lamp cord.
>> That's a rube goldberg and needs a lot of work.
>>
>
> It was a refrigerator compressor. It ran on lampcord for years, just
> like the one in your house. assuming, of course, you have a refrigerator.
Don't know about you, but my refrig used a heavier cord,
In the days of my childhood it used a heavier cord.
More like 16 or 14 gauge, not 18 gauge.
--
Jeff
On 2/2/2014 9:50 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 2/1/2014 11:26 PM, Bill wrote:
>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>> seeing it):
>>
>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>
> Ridiculous.
>
> The electrical cord was lamp cord.
> That's a rube goldberg and needs a lot of work.
>
It was a refrigerator compressor. It ran on lampcord for years, just
like the one in your house. assuming, of course, you have a refrigerator.
On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:26:51 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>seeing it):
>
>http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
My dad had one of these types although it was just a motor, compressor
and a tank. Used it for years in his workshop. Moved it to all over
the community in AL we lived in and it made moves to CA and NM.
I trashed it when he died in 1998 because I didn't trust the tank and
I had a better compressor of my own.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:26:51 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>> seeing it):
>>
>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
> Looks like a "rough and ready" build. I've seen worse - but I've seen
> a LOT better. It's realistically a 35 dollar piece on a good day.
> (around here anyway)
How much "capacity" do you think it has? I mean, seeing as it was
designed for a refrigerator. I assume it doesn't use oil but also
doesn't have a dual-regulator.
How much pressure is a refrigerator compressor designed to create? I
find it a real curious piece! ; )
Bill wrote:
> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
> seeing it):
>
> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
He better get a patent on that real quick. I see a Campbell Hausfeld box
looking on in the background.
--
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In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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Swingman wrote:
> On 2/1/2014 11:13 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Bill" wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>> seeing it):
>>>
>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Takes all kinds.
>
> Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged and
> leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle them
> into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning their
> daily bread. Whereas the current crop of urban cool/pavement traveling
> fauna would starve to death if they couldn't buy their food wrapped in
> saran wrap while they waited on the government to bail them out.
>
> Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it, sent a SWAT
> team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the family dog
> in the process.
>
Yes, I wouldn't have mind meeting the fellow who built it either. That's
what this was really about, "the man" more than "the machine". We
could email the seller and ask for information about the man who built
it and what he used it for. Imagine...a dozen requests...it reminds me
of an Arlo Guthrie song that they play on Thanksgiving...
Bill
Swingman wrote:
> On 2/1/2014 11:13 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Bill" wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>> seeing it):
>>>
>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Takes all kinds.
>
> Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged and
> leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle them
> into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning their
> daily bread bread. Whereas the current crop of urban cool/pavement
> traveling fauna would starve to death if they couldn't buy their food
> wrapped in saran wrap while they waited on the government to bail them
> out.
>
> Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it, sent a SWAT
> team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the family dog
> in the process.
>
I just wrote the seller a thoughtful note reflecting some of what you
wrote above--the ingenuity and "get things done" spirit that the
"compressor builder" surely had, requesting more information about the
compressor builder. I'll provide an update if he gets back to me. My
bet would go on the outcome that says he was a "FARMER"!
Bill
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:39:19 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>woodchucker wrote:
>> On 2/27/2014 3:52 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> Morgans wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>>>>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>>>>>>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>>>>>>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>>>>>>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>>>>>>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>>>>>>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>>>>>>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the
>>>>>>> rotor?
>>>>>> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it.
>>>>>> These types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
>>>>>> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot.
>>>>>> Yours is,
>>>>>> with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made
>>>>>> it, and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
>>>>> Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
>>>>> humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
>>>>> $18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
>>>>> money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
>>>>> entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
>>>>> being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at
>>>>> all. You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for
>>>>> now. It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>> Yeahbut Bill - why would you not take his advice and just try to get a
>>>> new
>>>> motor?
>>>
>>> Mike, I spent some good quality time with the humidifier reattaching
>>> the fan blade. I roto-cut the top to get to it since I didn't have a
>>> "spanner" driver, then when back
>>> and snugged it up with some electrical tape. I feel like I won the
>>> battle thus far. I didn't feel that Jim was advising me (was far as
>>> whether to repair it or now), he was just telling me how it is...
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Bill do you have a fairly new house?
>> If you do, you don't want a humidifier. Too many of the houses today
>> are so tight, that you are introducing a problem (mold).
>>
>> If it's an old house, it's drafty and not an issue.
>>
>> Just an FYI.
>>
>
>That is something to keep in mind. We have been using it for 4 years in
>our 40 year old house with no problems.
>But I surely don't want mold problems!
>
>Bill
>
>
If the RH is too low, use the humidifier with no risk of mold. If you
draw sparks from doorknobs when you walk across a rug, the RH is too
low. Period.
Bill wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 2/1/2014 11:13 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> "Bill" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might
>>>> enjoy seeing it):
>>>>
>>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Takes all kinds.
>>
>> Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged
>> and leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle
>> them into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning
>> their daily bread. Whereas the current crop of urban cool/pavement
>> traveling fauna would starve to death if they couldn't buy their
>> food wrapped in saran wrap while they waited on the government to
>> bail them out. Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it,
>> sent a SWAT
>> team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the family dog
>> in the process.
>>
>
> Yes, I wouldn't have mind meeting the fellow who built it either.
> That's what this was really about, "the man" more than "the machine".
> We could email the seller and ask for information about the man who
> built it and what he used it for. Imagine...a dozen requests...it
> reminds me of an Arlo Guthrie song that they play on Thanksgiving...
>
You might easily be able to find a guy who built one of these Bill.
Compressors like this are as common as copper pennies. Guys have been
building these for ages. They work. Not really powerful, but most of those
guys didn't need a really powerful compressor. I wondered why people seemed
like this was a bit uncommon - you can find rigs like that in any yeard sale
around here.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Bill wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 2/1/2014 11:13 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> "Bill" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>>> seeing it):
>>>>
>>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Takes all kinds.
>>
>> Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged
>> and leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle
>> them into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning
>> their daily bread bread. Whereas the current crop of urban
>> cool/pavement traveling fauna would starve to death if they couldn't
>> buy their food wrapped in saran wrap while they waited on the
>> government to bail them out.
>>
>> Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it, sent a SWAT
>> team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the family dog
>> in the process.
>>
>
> I just wrote the seller a thoughtful note reflecting some of what you
> wrote above--the ingenuity and "get things done" spirit that the
> "compressor builder" surely had, requesting more information about the
> compressor builder. I'll provide an update if he gets back to me. My
> bet would go on the outcome that says he was a "FARMER"!
>
> Bill
>
I just heard back the kind gentleman who posted the ad as follows. I
edited it slightly to help protect the privacy of anyone concerned.
The person who built this compressor was my stepfather, who passed in
1991. He was born in xxxx in 1933, and a 1951 graduate of (a local)
High School. He was a transmission builder for Allison for 30 years, and
worked on the Abrams tank shortly before his retirement. He was a
Freemason and sheriff's deputy in xxx County, and lived most of his life
in xxx, where he rests today. He indeed had a way with "getting things
done", which I carry on to this day. He and I dug and poured the
foundation for this house together, and over the years added rooms and
improvements and various do-it-yourself activities. He was active along
with my older stepbrother in the development of one of the first
hydrostats for zero-turn lawnmowers, which was sold to Art Evans of
Dixie Chopper before they grew into the larger company they became.
Indeed, an interesting man, and the compressor was one of his many
cobbled-together inventions that got the job done without heading to
Lowe's with a credit card in hand.
So. I was wrong in my guess that he was a farmer, but I thought his
choice of words--"cobbled-together" reminded me of those that Swingman
used. I did not use that phrase in my note to him. Who say's you can't
find interesting things on Craigslist?
Bill
Swingman wrote:
> On 2/9/2014 12:49 AM, Bill wrote:
>
>> He and I dug and poured the foundation for this house together, and over
>> the years added rooms and improvements and various do-it-yourself
>> activities. He was active along with my older stepbrother in the
>> development of one of the first hydrostats for zero-turn lawnmowers,
>> which was sold to Art Evans of Dixie Chopper before they grew into the
>> larger company they became. Indeed, an interesting man, and the
>> compressor was one of his many cobbled-together inventions that got the
>> job done without heading to Lowe's with a credit card in hand.
>>
>> So. I was wrong in my guess that he was a farmer, but I thought his
>> choice of words--"cobbled-together" reminded me of those that
>> Swingman used.
>
> This guy appears to have been better educated, with his HS degree,
> than most college graduates today ... and a damned sight more useful
> to himself, and the world around him, by not being totally reliant on
> someone else's labors.
>
> While understandable that modern conveniences and culture puts pay to
> much of the necessity for this type of self reliance, it is remarkable
> and sad, when viewed with an age based perspective, to look around and
> see so little of that, which was instrumental in making this country
> exceptional, exhibited in today's culture.
>
> </rant>
>
> Thanks for the follow up.
>
You're welcome. I think it is satisfying. Thank you for your reply. I
will include your comment (as "a friend's comment") in my e-mail reply
to him.
Bill
> Swingman wrote:
>> While understandable that modern conveniences and culture puts pay to
>> much of the necessity for this type of self reliance, it is
>> remarkable and sad, when viewed with an age based perspective, to
>> look around and see so little of that, which was instrumental in
>> making this country exceptional, exhibited in today's culture.
>>
No kidding. We're old farts and we grew up being taught things like
self-reliance, craftiness, etc. All of my life, I've been able to cope and
create as I needed because of that. To this day, I enjoy the process of
continuing to learn, and to refine skills that I had developed at more
rudimentary levels throughout my life. I never cease to be amazed at how
that concept is almost shunned by society today.
I raised my own kids this way and I'm very proud of each of them for their
own sense of self-reliance, even though they live that out differently than
I do. Few things make me as proud as when my middle daughter takes her car
to the mechanic and tells him what is wrong with it, and what needs to be
repaired - and then... god bless her soul - she negotiates the rate for the
repair. All of my kids exhibit some form of this or another, and I'm happy
to see that in them.
In my professional life I observe the price for the loss of these skills - I
see a generation that lacks in problem solving skills, that lacks in
creative thinking, and that lacks in collaborative thinking. I'm not
talking about the younger generation here - I'm talking about my own peers.
--
-Mike-
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Swingman wrote:
{
This guy appears to have been better educated, with his HS degree, than
most college graduates today ... and a damned sight more useful to
himself, and the world around him, by not being totally reliant on
someone else's labors.
While understandable that modern conveniences and culture puts pay to
much of the necessity for this type of self reliance, it is remarkable
and sad, when viewed with an age based perspective, to look around and
see so little of that, which was instrumental in making this country
exceptional, exhibited in today's culture.
<man, that's beautiful!>
}
I don't consider that a rant! I want to hear remarks like that
broadcast on TV, and in the newspaper (or smart phone--lol)!
Though I don't have exactly the same "perspective" that you have. I have
some experience with what you are talking about from my own experience
and from conversations I have had with others who I could practically
count as relatives (though they aren't really).
I think you've put your finger on some of motivations that make me a
multi-year subscriber to rec.woodworking.
I really enjoyed reading Mike Marlow's reply to your post too! "You go,
girl!!!" : )
Bill
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I raised my own kids this way and I'm very proud of each of them for their
> own sense of self-reliance, even though they live that out differently
> than I do. Few things make me as proud as when my middle daughter takes
> her car to the mechanic and tells him what is wrong with it, and what
> needs to be repaired - and then... god bless her soul - she negotiates the
> rate for the repair. All of my kids exhibit some form of this or another,
> and I'm happy to see that in them.
Yep, I'm pretty handy around a car or other machine, and somehow managed to
pass this down to my daughter, and am now teaching her hubby. My girl never
really worked with me on stuff except for a few minutes when I needed an
extra hand, but when she passed by I always took the time to explain what
was wrong, how I figured it out and how I would fix it. It turned out that
she was listening.
When she took the ASVAB (armed services vocational aptitude battery) She
had the highest score in her school on the mechanics section, including in
beating out the scores of all the gearhead boys in her class!
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Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Swingman wrote:
>>> While understandable that modern conveniences and culture puts pay to
>>> much of the necessity for this type of self reliance, it is
>>> remarkable and sad, when viewed with an age based perspective, to
>>> look around and see so little of that, which was instrumental in
>>> making this country exceptional, exhibited in today's culture.
>>>
> No kidding. We're old farts and we grew up being taught things like
> self-reliance, craftiness, etc. All of my life, I've been able to cope and
> create as I needed because of that. To this day, I enjoy the process of
> continuing to learn, and to refine skills that I had developed at more
> rudimentary levels throughout my life. I never cease to be amazed at how
> that concept is almost shunned by society today.
> <politely snipped>
The fan just came off of the rotor of my humidifier (we cleaned it up
recently after replacing the filter, and I never thought anything of
turning it upside down).
I learned after a bit of browsing that the essential screw was a
"spanner"--a slotted looking screw with a place where
the slot is filled in. It's one you almost-surely don't already have a
driver for! And I needed one with a handle that would reach down into a
cylindrical hole more than an inch; I don't think a bit would fit after
a handle/connector was attached to it. So after a bit of browsing, I
located some, but I went to Plan B anyway (in the spirit of the
gentleman who made the air compressor we were admiring!). By the way,
according to a web site, such screws are frequently used to "prevent
tampering" (what did Kenmore think I was going to do)!!!
Mr. Humidifier meet Mr. RotaryTool. I just cut off a 2" strip of the
grill on one end of the top.
There not much holding the fan blade on (it can be easily lifted off),
but the outward forces are holding the fan blade in place when it
spins. Its a plastic fan blade and a metal rotor--what might be a
suitable adhesive? Maybe just a piece of tape for a tighter friction fit?
Anyway, the unit was up and running again after maybe only 30 minutes or
so. I want to give the air compressor builder some credit because I
thought of him in the same moment I thought of Plan B. The unit is
about 10 years old, but it only works for maybe 4 months out of the
year. And if the blade falls off again, it will be easy to reach in and
put it back on. It would worry me more if I had a dog with a long
tail! : )
Bill
Bill wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Swingman wrote:
>>>> While understandable that modern conveniences and culture puts pay to
>>>> much of the necessity for this type of self reliance, it is
>>>> remarkable and sad, when viewed with an age based perspective, to
>>>> look around and see so little of that, which was instrumental in
>>>> making this country exceptional, exhibited in today's culture.
>>>>
>> No kidding. We're old farts and we grew up being taught things like
>> self-reliance, craftiness, etc. All of my life, I've been able to
>> cope and
>> create as I needed because of that. To this day, I enjoy the process of
>> continuing to learn, and to refine skills that I had developed at more
>> rudimentary levels throughout my life. I never cease to be amazed at
>> how
>> that concept is almost shunned by society today.
>> <politely snipped>
>
>
> The fan just came off of the rotor of my humidifier (we cleaned it up
> recently after replacing the filter, and I never thought anything of
> turning it upside down).
> I learned after a bit of browsing that the essential screw was a
> "spanner"--a slotted looking screw with a place where
> the slot is filled in. It's one you almost-surely don't already have
> a driver for! And I needed one with a handle that would reach down
> into a cylindrical hole more than an inch; I don't think a bit would
> fit after a handle/connector was attached to it. So after a bit of
> browsing, I located some, but I went to Plan B anyway (in the spirit
> of the gentleman who made the air compressor we were admiring!). By
> the way, according to a web site, such screws are frequently used to
> "prevent tampering" (what did Kenmore think I was going to do)!!!
>
> Mr. Humidifier meet Mr. RotaryTool. I just cut off a 2" strip of the
> grill on one end of the top.
>
> There not much holding the fan blade on (it can be easily lifted off),
> but the outward forces are holding the fan blade in place when it
> spins. Its a plastic fan blade and a metal rotor--what might be a
> suitable adhesive? Maybe just a piece of tape for a tighter friction fit?
>
It started squeaking again (that's what drew my attention in the first
place), so I put some electrical tape on the rotor. The rotor seems
very "round" and the hole in the fan blade looks very "round". I would
have expected a D-shape or something. Whoever cut out the new hole that
you stick your hand through could have made it a little less-jagged! At
least the sharp edges may help "prevent tampering". ; )
Bill wrote:
>
>> The fan just came off of the rotor of my humidifier (we cleaned it up
>> recently after replacing the filter, and I never thought anything of
>> turning it upside down).
>
<rest snipped>
Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is in
the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad bearing
or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds appears when
it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After pushing down on the
fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first time I turned it back
on. Maybe apply some white grease to the rotor?
Bill
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It doesn't
> sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that there is at
> least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is in the vertical
> direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad bearing or anything
> like that? I think most of the strange sounds appears when it is
> starting, stopping or changing speeds. After pushing down on the fan
> blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first time I turned it back on.
> Maybe apply some white grease to the rotor?
>
Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it. These
types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass impregnated
plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot. Yours is, with all
descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made it, and
still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
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Morgans wrote:
>
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>
>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the rotor?
>>
> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it. These
> types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot. Yours
> is, with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>
> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made it,
> and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
$18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at all.
You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for now.
It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
Bill
Bill wrote:
> Morgans wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>
>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the
>>> rotor?
>> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it.
>> These types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
>> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot. Yours is,
>> with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>>
>> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made
>> it, and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
>
> Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
> humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
> $18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
> money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
> entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
> being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at
> all. You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for
> now. It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
>
Yeahbut Bill - why would you not take his advice and just try to get a new
motor?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Morgans wrote:
>>>
>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>
>>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>>>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>>>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>>>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>>>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>>>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>>>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the
>>>> rotor?
>>> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it.
>>> These types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
>>> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot. Yours is,
>>> with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>>>
>>> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made
>>> it, and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
>> Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
>> humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
>> $18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
>> money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
>> entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
>> being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at
>> all. You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for
>> now. It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
>>
> Yeahbut Bill - why would you not take his advice and just try to get a new
> motor?
>
Because I would also need a suitable "spanner" screw driver, and who
knows what would follow. It's $109 new.
How much do you suppose a custom motor from Sears is? $60? The value
is just not there.
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Morgans wrote:
>>>
>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>
>>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>>>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>>>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>>>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>>>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>>>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>>>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the
>>>> rotor?
>>> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it.
>>> These types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
>>> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot. Yours is,
>>> with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>>>
>>> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made
>>> it, and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
>> Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
>> humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
>> $18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
>> money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
>> entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
>> being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at
>> all. You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for
>> now. It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
>>
> Yeahbut Bill - why would you not take his advice and just try to get a new
> motor?
Mike, I spent some good quality time with the humidifier reattaching
the fan blade. I roto-cut the top to get to it since I didn't have a
"spanner" driver, then when back
and snugged it up with some electrical tape. I feel like I won the
battle thus far. I didn't feel that Jim was advising me (was far as
whether to repair it or now), he was just telling me how it is...
Bill
Bill wrote:
> Because I would also need a suitable "spanner" screw driver, and who
> knows what would follow. It's $109 new.
> How much do you suppose a custom motor from Sears is? $60? The value
> is just not there.
Ok - I get that. I can't see the motor so I can't offer any
recomnendations. If the repair would really require that much expense, then
I forgo the repair. After all - why pay 50% of the new itemn for a repair
that will only last a short time. I agree with your thinking therel A lot
of these things really prove to be throw away items in the long run. I
recently lubed up a motor shaft on an electic space heater because it was
cheap and easy to do. The lube job lasted a few weeks. Hardly even worth
the effort. The space heater died shortly thereafter.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote ?
>
> Mike, I spent some good quality time with the humidifier reattaching the
> fan blade. I roto-cut the top to get to it since I didn't have a "spanner"
> driver, then when back
> and snugged it up with some electrical tape. I feel like I won the battle
> thus far. I didn't feel that Jim was advising me (was far as whether to
> repair it or now), he was just telling me how it is...
I would advise that you do the homework to look up the new motor price.
It might not be that high. It might be available from a repair company
other than sears. I did replace one on a Kenmore, I think, and I think it
was about 35 bucks. That was still a lot cheaper than a new unit, and it
ran for a few more years.
I echo Mike. It will not likely last more than a few weeks. Then it will
tie up tight. Not usually a fire hazard, but move combustibles from around
it.
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woodchucker wrote:
> On 2/27/2014 3:52 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> Morgans wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>
>>>>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>>>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>>>>>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>>>>>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>>>>>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>>>>>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>>>>>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>>>>>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the
>>>>>> rotor?
>>>>> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it.
>>>>> These types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
>>>>> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot.
>>>>> Yours is,
>>>>> with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made
>>>>> it, and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
>>>> Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
>>>> humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
>>>> $18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
>>>> money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
>>>> entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
>>>> being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at
>>>> all. You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for
>>>> now. It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
>>>>
>>> Yeahbut Bill - why would you not take his advice and just try to get a
>>> new
>>> motor?
>>
>> Mike, I spent some good quality time with the humidifier reattaching
>> the fan blade. I roto-cut the top to get to it since I didn't have a
>> "spanner" driver, then when back
>> and snugged it up with some electrical tape. I feel like I won the
>> battle thus far. I didn't feel that Jim was advising me (was far as
>> whether to repair it or now), he was just telling me how it is...
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Bill do you have a fairly new house?
> If you do, you don't want a humidifier. Too many of the houses today
> are so tight, that you are introducing a problem (mold).
>
> If it's an old house, it's drafty and not an issue.
>
> Just an FYI.
>
That is something to keep in mind. We have been using it for 4 years in
our 40 year old house with no problems.
But I surely don't want mold problems!
Bill
Bill wrote:
>>> Morgans wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>
>>>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything.
So, for the sake of wrapping up the story (which I generally feel a
moral obligation to do), here goes.
Sears is having an "All Kenmore Appliances On Sale" sale today.
So I asked about the sale price of the Kenmore evaporative humidifier,
where I was informed that it was Not an appliance.
I pointed out that it was in the "appliance section", and it was pointed
out to me that there was an imaginary line on the floor and that it was
actually in the "home improvement section". In short, I talked to a
manager who gave me 10%.
So if count the new filter I was able to put on my shelf for next year,
the replacement cost was $81+ tax. Case closed.
Bill
On 2/9/2014 8:57 PM, Bill wrote:
>
> Swingman wrote:
> {
> This guy appears to have been better educated, with his HS degree, than
> most college graduates today ... and a damned sight more useful to
> himself, and the world around him, by not being totally reliant on
> someone else's labors.
>
> While understandable that modern conveniences and culture puts pay to
> much of the necessity for this type of self reliance, it is remarkable
> and sad, when viewed with an age based perspective, to look around and
> see so little of that, which was instrumental in making this country
> exceptional, exhibited in today's culture.
>
> <man, that's beautiful!>
>
> }
>
>
> I don't consider that a rant! I want to hear remarks like that
> broadcast on TV, and in the newspaper (or smart phone--lol)!
YOU WON'T.. that goes against business. If you make it yourself it's
depriving a company and ceo from profits, his bonus.
>
> Though I don't have exactly the same "perspective" that you have. I have
> some experience with what you are talking about from my own experience
> and from conversations I have had with others who I could practically
> count as relatives (though they aren't really).
>
> I think you've put your finger on some of motivations that make me a
> multi-year subscriber to rec.woodworking.
>
> I really enjoyed reading Mike Marlow's reply to your post too! "You go,
> girl!!!" : )
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Jeff
On 2/2/2014 1:37 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 2/2/2014 2:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 2/2/2014 12:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 2/2/2014 12:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 2/2/2014 9:50 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>> On 2/1/2014 11:26 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>>>>> seeing it):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>>
>>>>> The electrical cord was lamp cord.
>>>>> That's a rube goldberg and needs a lot of work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was a refrigerator compressor. It ran on lampcord for years, just
>>>> like the one in your house. assuming, of course, you have a
>>>> refrigerator.
>>>
>>> Don't know about you, but my refrig used a heavier cord,
>>> In the days of my childhood it used a heavier cord.
>>>
>>> More like 16 or 14 gauge, not 18 gauge.
>>>
>>
>> Looks like at least 16 gauge to me, baybe 14. Neither of us knows for
>> sure, but evidently it worked.
>>
>
> I would say that's 18 gauge.
>
>
Regardless the cord looks to be in pretty good shape, it was probably
adequate.
On 2/27/2014 5:39 PM, Bill wrote:
> woodchucker wrote:
>> On 2/27/2014 3:52 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> Morgans wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still getting more "clunking" sounds than usual from the unit. It
>>>>>>> doesn't sound like metal against metal or anything. I noticed that
>>>>>>> there is at least 1/2" of "play" in the rotor of the motor. That is
>>>>>>> in the vertical direction with the rotor up. Is that a sign of bad
>>>>>>> bearing or anything like that? I think most of the strange sounds
>>>>>>> appears when it is starting, stopping or changing speeds. After
>>>>>>> pushing down on the fan blade, I noticed a metalic squeak the first
>>>>>>> time I turned it back on. Maybe apply some white grease to the
>>>>>>> rotor?
>>>>>> Temporary fixes are all you can hope for, from the sounds of it.
>>>>>> These types of motors have "oilite" bearings, which are basic brass
>>>>>> impregnated plan bushings,. When they are shot, they are shot.
>>>>>> Yours is,
>>>>>> with all descriptions of sound and slop in mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can usually get a replacement motor from the company that made
>>>>>> it, and still be economical in repairing vs. replacement.
>>>>> Thank you for telling me a bit about the bearings! I noticed the sane
>>>>> humidifier unit is currently selling for $109, and a filter alone is
>>>>> $18, so I don't think I can justify any further investment of time and
>>>>> money to repair the unit. My recent fan reattachment via Rotary-Tool
>>>>> entry got it back up and running though. The unit alternates between
>>>>> being running quietly and not so quietly for no apparent reason at
>>>>> all. You didn't say anything about "fire risk", so I'll let it be for
>>>>> now. It's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>> Yeahbut Bill - why would you not take his advice and just try to get a
>>>> new
>>>> motor?
>>>
>>> Mike, I spent some good quality time with the humidifier reattaching
>>> the fan blade. I roto-cut the top to get to it since I didn't have a
>>> "spanner" driver, then when back
>>> and snugged it up with some electrical tape. I feel like I won the
>>> battle thus far. I didn't feel that Jim was advising me (was far as
>>> whether to repair it or now), he was just telling me how it is...
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Bill do you have a fairly new house?
>> If you do, you don't want a humidifier. Too many of the houses today
>> are so tight, that you are introducing a problem (mold).
>>
>> If it's an old house, it's drafty and not an issue.
>>
>> Just an FYI.
>>
>
> That is something to keep in mind. We have been using it for 4 years in
> our 40 year old house with no problems.
> But I surely don't want mold problems!
>
> Bill
>
>
>
40 years old is fine, the house was not sealed up like the current crop
of homes.
you have nothing to worry about.
These days they try to get practically no air leakage, and that is the
type of house that should not be humidified. It's natuarally humidified
by the occupants.
They are having mold issues in many of these homes w/o humidifiers. They
talk about wood rotting in a short time due to the moisture.
I read fine homebuilding e letter... it's apparently a big problem.
But they still have the goal of making it even tighter.
Go figure.
--
Jeff
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 14:06:31 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Bill" wrote:
>
>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might
>> enjoy
>> seeing it):
>>
>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>-----------------------------------------------
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>> Takes all kinds.
>-----------------------------------------------
>"Swingman" wrote:
>
>> Yep ... the kind of self reliant individual who can take scavenged
>> and leftover parts that still work, add some ingenuity, and recycle
>> them into something obviously useful, used quite likely in earning
>> their daily bread bread. Whereas the current crop of urban
>> cool/pavement traveling fauna would starve to death if they couldn't
>> buy their food wrapped in saran wrap while they waited on the
>> government to bail them out.
>>
>> Of course, in this day and age, CA will have outlawed it, sent a
>> SWAT team to protect the folks from themselves, and killed the
>> family dog in the process.
>--------------------------------------------------
>Poor baby, tummy feel all better now?
>
That we don't live in Kalifornicate? You bet!
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 13:17:10 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>>
>> seeing it):
>>
>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
>
>Back in the late fifties, a neighborhood kid made a compressor out of an old refrigerator and a tank. He primarily used to spray his auto engine with Lestoil - and then hose it down. Many of the neighborhood youngsters clean their motors. It left everything spotless.
>
>My brother took his TR-2 in for work, and the mechanic was amazed. He'd never seen an engine so clean.
>
>So, if you have an old TR-2, think about buying this .....
To keep a TR2 spotless he must have washed it twice a day-----------
On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:26:51 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I don't want to buy it, I'm just curious (and thought you might enjoy
>seeing it):
>
>http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/4301941733.html
Looks like a "rough and ready" build. I've seen worse - but I've seen
a LOT better. It's realistically a 35 dollar piece on a good day.
(around here anyway)