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woodchucker

03/02/2014 2:25 PM

metal detector

My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
alone a piece of metal in wood.

I always thought it was a little too finicky.

Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??

--
Jeff


This topic has 21 replies

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woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 2:26 PM

On 2/3/2014 2:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>
> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>
> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>

well I pried the case open.

after looking for a while, and then starting to test, I found a cold
solder joint, and a wire with black rot..

Soldered in a new one... and all is now ok. Reassembled with CA.


--
Jeff

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 7:00 PM

On 2/4/2014 6:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 09:08:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/3/2014 1:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>
>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>>
>>
>>
>> This may be a little too low tech but 4~5 short stacks of rare earth
>> magnets glued to a stick should be attracted to something ferrous in the
>> wood.
>>
>> A stack of about 8 rare earth magnets "IS" my stud finder that works
>> effortlessly every time.
>
> Excellent idea. I've used magnetic stud finders before but they
> haven't been great (not enough oomph). The ultrasound finders I have
> aren't real accurate. I kinda have to fumble around finding both
> (fuzzy edges) and split the difference. A 2x shows up as four or five
> inches wide. Not so good.
>



And the beauty to the rare earth magnets is that they stick to the wall.
This is good when you walk away to pick up the pencil you just dropped
before marking the spot. ;~)

If you lightly hold the magnets above the surface you will feel them
almost jump out of your hand when you get near a nail or screw.

Wrap a little bit of masking tape over the end so that the magnets do
not mark the wall.

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 9:08 AM

On 2/3/2014 1:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>
> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>
> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>


This may be a little too low tech but 4~5 short stacks of rare earth
magnets glued to a stick should be attracted to something ferrous in the
wood.

A stack of about 8 rare earth magnets "IS" my stud finder that works
effortlessly every time.

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 9:13 AM

On 2/4/2014 8:39 AM, willshak wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> woodchucker wrote:
>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>
>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>
>> I use a cat's paw driven briskly into the wood... Otherwise, an
>> oxy-acetylene torch will melt the stuff right out of there..
>>
>
> What post are you answering?
> A metal detector is used to find metal, not remove it.
>
>


;~) I think Mike's tongue might have been planted in his cheek.

I think a oxy-acetylene torch might do more than melt the stuff.

h

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

03/02/2014 5:37 PM

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:00:15 -0800, Pat Barber <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2/3/2014 11:25 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>
>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>
>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>
>
>The one used by many none-woodworker types:
>
>They offer several different models:
>
>http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_division_promotions_us.aspx
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Garrett-Pro-Pointer-Detector-Includes-Holster/dp/B005D4V27S/ref=lp_554036_1_4?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1391464566&sr=1-4



I think that there was a recent " recall "
.. on a certain Wizard model ..
John T.


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Puckdropper

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

05/02/2014 6:38 AM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 2/4/2014 9:30 PM, Markem wrote:
>>
>> Also beware when putting them together they can raise a nasty blood
>> blister in a pinch.
>>
>> Mark
>>
> Yeah, you don't want them flying together, that is for sure.
>

Someone on the Internet suggested that it's a bad idea to put one in either
pants pocket... Especially the big ones.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

k

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 7:37 PM

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 09:08:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 2/3/2014 1:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>
>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>
>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>
>
>
>This may be a little too low tech but 4~5 short stacks of rare earth
>magnets glued to a stick should be attracted to something ferrous in the
>wood.
>
>A stack of about 8 rare earth magnets "IS" my stud finder that works
>effortlessly every time.

Excellent idea. I've used magnetic stud finders before but they
haven't been great (not enough oomph). The ultrasound finders I have
aren't real accurate. I kinda have to fumble around finding both
(fuzzy edges) and split the difference. A 2x shows up as four or five
inches wide. Not so good.

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 11:30 PM

On 2/4/2014 10:39 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> And the beauty to the rare earth magnets is that they stick to the
>> wall. This is good when you walk away to pick up the pencil you just
>> dropped before marking the spot. ;~)
>
> You drop it? Hell, I usually forget it over on the table saw. Or on the
> torches...
>
>


;~)

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 11:29 PM

On 2/4/2014 9:30 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:00:02 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/4/2014 6:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 09:08:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/3/2014 1:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>>>>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This may be a little too low tech but 4~5 short stacks of rare earth
>>>> magnets glued to a stick should be attracted to something ferrous in the
>>>> wood.
>>>>
>>>> A stack of about 8 rare earth magnets "IS" my stud finder that works
>>>> effortlessly every time.
>>>
>>> Excellent idea. I've used magnetic stud finders before but they
>>> haven't been great (not enough oomph). The ultrasound finders I have
>>> aren't real accurate. I kinda have to fumble around finding both
>>> (fuzzy edges) and split the difference. A 2x shows up as four or five
>>> inches wide. Not so good.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And the beauty to the rare earth magnets is that they stick to the wall.
>> This is good when you walk away to pick up the pencil you just dropped
>> before marking the spot. ;~)
>>
>> If you lightly hold the magnets above the surface you will feel them
>> almost jump out of your hand when you get near a nail or screw.
>>
>> Wrap a little bit of masking tape over the end so that the magnets do
>> not mark the wall.
>
> Also beware when putting them together they can raise a nasty blood
> blister in a pinch.
>
> Mark
>
Yeah, you don't want them flying together, that is for sure.

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 2:15 PM

On 2/4/2014 1:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 2/3/2014 2:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>
>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>
>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>
>
> well I pried the case open.
>
> after looking for a while, and then starting to test, I found a cold
> solder joint, and a wire with black rot..
>
> Soldered in a new one... and all is now ok. Reassembled with CA.
>
>


Well send it to me and I'll send you some of my magnets. ;~)

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 11:25 PM

On 2/4/2014 8:00 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 2/4/2014 6:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 09:08:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/3/2014 1:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>>>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>>
>>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This may be a little too low tech but 4~5 short stacks of rare earth
>>> magnets glued to a stick should be attracted to something ferrous in the
>>> wood.
>>>
>>> A stack of about 8 rare earth magnets "IS" my stud finder that works
>>> effortlessly every time.
>>
>> Excellent idea. I've used magnetic stud finders before but they
>> haven't been great (not enough oomph). The ultrasound finders I have
>> aren't real accurate. I kinda have to fumble around finding both
>> (fuzzy edges) and split the difference. A 2x shows up as four or five
>> inches wide. Not so good.
>>
>
>
>
> And the beauty to the rare earth magnets is that they stick to the wall.
> This is good when you walk away to pick up the pencil you just dropped
> before marking the spot. ;~)
>
> If you lightly hold the magnets above the surface you will feel them
> almost jump out of your hand when you get near a nail or screw.
>
> Wrap a little bit of masking tape over the end so that the magnets do
> not mark the wall.

I use a single rare earth magnet on a chain to find studs. It finds it
just by letting it hang and moving it around.



--
Jeff

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 12:30 PM

On 2/4/2014 10:16 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> ;~) I think Mike's tongue might have been planted in his cheek.
>>
>
> Yup!
>
>
>> I think a oxy-acetylene torch might do more than melt the stuff.
>
> Yeahbut now I'm on a mission to explore this wood-welding stuff that was
> posted here a couple of weeks ago. And you guys were laughing at me for
> suggesting oxy-acetylene all this time... I knew there was genius in my
> thoughts...
>


I was the one that posted the wood welding site. There was no torch
involved. LOL

Sound waves man, sound waves. ;~)

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

03/02/2014 4:20 PM

woodchucker wrote:
> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>
> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>
> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??

I use a cat's paw driven briskly into the wood... Otherwise, an
oxy-acetylene torch will melt the stuff right out of there..

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

03/02/2014 2:00 PM

On 2/3/2014 11:25 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>
> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>
> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>

The one used by many none-woodworker types:

They offer several different models:

http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_division_promotions_us.aspx

http://www.amazon.com/Garrett-Pro-Pointer-Detector-Includes-Holster/dp/B005D4V27S/ref=lp_554036_1_4?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1391464566&sr=1-4

ww

willshak

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 9:39 AM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> woodchucker wrote:
>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>
>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>
>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>
> I use a cat's paw driven briskly into the wood... Otherwise, an
> oxy-acetylene torch will melt the stuff right out of there..
>

What post are you answering?
A metal detector is used to find metal, not remove it.


--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 11:14 AM

willshak wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> woodchucker wrote:
>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw
>>> let alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>
>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>
>> I use a cat's paw driven briskly into the wood... Otherwise, an
>> oxy-acetylene torch will melt the stuff right out of there..
>>
>
> What post are you answering?
> A metal detector is used to find metal, not remove it.

Was trying to be humorous. I will try harder next time...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 11:16 AM

Leon wrote:

> ;~) I think Mike's tongue might have been planted in his cheek.
>

Yup!


> I think a oxy-acetylene torch might do more than melt the stuff.

Yeahbut now I'm on a mission to explore this wood-welding stuff that was
posted here a couple of weeks ago. And you guys were laughing at me for
suggesting oxy-acetylene all this time... I knew there was genius in my
thoughts...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 11:39 PM

Leon wrote:

> And the beauty to the rare earth magnets is that they stick to the
> wall. This is good when you walk away to pick up the pencil you just
> dropped before marking the spot. ;~)

You drop it? Hell, I usually forget it over on the table saw. Or on the
torches...


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

k

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 8:20 PM

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:00:02 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 2/4/2014 6:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 09:08:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/3/2014 1:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>>>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>>
>>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This may be a little too low tech but 4~5 short stacks of rare earth
>>> magnets glued to a stick should be attracted to something ferrous in the
>>> wood.
>>>
>>> A stack of about 8 rare earth magnets "IS" my stud finder that works
>>> effortlessly every time.
>>
>> Excellent idea. I've used magnetic stud finders before but they
>> haven't been great (not enough oomph). The ultrasound finders I have
>> aren't real accurate. I kinda have to fumble around finding both
>> (fuzzy edges) and split the difference. A 2x shows up as four or five
>> inches wide. Not so good.
>>
>
>
>
>And the beauty to the rare earth magnets is that they stick to the wall.
> This is good when you walk away to pick up the pencil you just dropped
>before marking the spot. ;~)
>
>If you lightly hold the magnets above the surface you will feel them
>almost jump out of your hand when you get near a nail or screw.
>
>Wrap a little bit of masking tape over the end so that the magnets do
>not mark the wall.

Great tips. Thanks! Now, to find my magnet stash. ;-)

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

03/02/2014 6:22 PM

On 2/3/2014 5:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:00:15 -0800, Pat Barber <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/3/2014 11:25 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>
>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>>
>>
>> The one used by many none-woodworker types:
>>
>> They offer several different models:
>>
>> http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_division_promotions_us.aspx
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Garrett-Pro-Pointer-Detector-Includes-Holster/dp/B005D4V27S/ref=lp_554036_1_4?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1391464566&sr=1-4
>
>
>
> I think that there was a recent " recall "
> .. on a certain Wizard model ..
> John T.
>
>
> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: [email protected] ---
>
mine is quite a few years old. I didn't see the recall on their website.



--
Jeff

Mm

Markem

in reply to woodchucker on 03/02/2014 2:25 PM

04/02/2014 9:30 PM

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:00:02 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 2/4/2014 6:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 09:08:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/3/2014 1:25 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> My wizard III stopped working. I tried replacing the battery, tried
>>>> adjusting, but it is not consistently able to pick up my tablesaw let
>>>> alone a piece of metal in wood.
>>>>
>>>> I always thought it was a little too finicky.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have a very good metal detector other than the wizard??
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This may be a little too low tech but 4~5 short stacks of rare earth
>>> magnets glued to a stick should be attracted to something ferrous in the
>>> wood.
>>>
>>> A stack of about 8 rare earth magnets "IS" my stud finder that works
>>> effortlessly every time.
>>
>> Excellent idea. I've used magnetic stud finders before but they
>> haven't been great (not enough oomph). The ultrasound finders I have
>> aren't real accurate. I kinda have to fumble around finding both
>> (fuzzy edges) and split the difference. A 2x shows up as four or five
>> inches wide. Not so good.
>>
>
>
>
>And the beauty to the rare earth magnets is that they stick to the wall.
> This is good when you walk away to pick up the pencil you just dropped
>before marking the spot. ;~)
>
>If you lightly hold the magnets above the surface you will feel them
>almost jump out of your hand when you get near a nail or screw.
>
>Wrap a little bit of masking tape over the end so that the magnets do
>not mark the wall.

Also beware when putting them together they can raise a nasty blood
blister in a pinch.

Mark


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