In article <[email protected]>, sal <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I will have to do this, as the crap is very annoying, the regulars are
> entertaining and knowledgeable.
--> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664
There's your problem...
sal wrote:
> I guess this NG. is a goner.
>
> Sal
I guess it is if that's what you think. Good luck in your quest to find
what you really want. There's something out there for everyone.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:33:15 -0500, sal wrote:
> I guess this NG. is a goner.
>
> Sal
Sal,
Are you referring to the Rasta Khan crap?
I don't see this junk usually, but I suspended
filtering trying to see what you were talking about.
Get a real newsreader and learn to filter, you won't ever see
the junk.
basilisk
--
A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse
"FrozenNorth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 9/05/12 6:13 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> sal wrote:
>>>>> I apologize to the newsgroup for my political crap.
>>>>
>>>> There's a simple, easy solution -- if you don't like the off-topic
>>>> "political crap", then DON'T READ IT
>>>
>>> By the same token there are (political N/G ) if you want to air your
>>> opinion, I'm just interested in rec.woodworking.
>>>
>>
>> That's fair - and that's why there are filters built into newsreaders.
>> Every newsgroup suffers OT stuff - it just cannot be avoided. To say
>> that
>> you're only interested in a particular topic is a bit over the edge. If
>> that's the case, then the hard line is for you to learn how to use a
>> newsreader. It's not really all about you.
>>
> or visit moderated web forums.....and give up on usenet.
>
> --
> Froz...
>
>
> Have I missed something?It is not really about me.I can use a filter.All I
> said was that the political comments were not even listed O.T. I'm thick
> skinned , but I see others are not.
Sal
sal wrote:
>> Have I missed something?It is not really about me.I can use a
>> filter.All I said was that the political comments were not even
>> listed O.T. I'm thick skinned , but I see others are not.
>
> Sal
Well - then mark them to be ignored. It's not that hard. Newsgroups have
never been as pristine as to be totally on-topic. You are right that the OT
disclaimer should be in the subject line, but hell - it's just the way it
is. Most of the time it's there, and sometimes it's not. Then there are
the on topic threads that get dragged off topic - by even the best of those
here (just ask them, they'll tell you they are the best...). It's just how
it is. Always been that way. Not worth complaining about.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"sal" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> I guess this NG. is a goner.
>
> Sal
>
>
Well, today it wasn't too bad. I'm not sure how much my filters got, but
we do have several on-topic threads going on.
I wouldn't mind finding an active woodworking forum that's not segmented
into many pieces or requires something that looks like a real name. That's
what I liked about the wRECk when it was more active.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On 9/4/2012 5:52 AM, Han wrote:
> "sal" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> I guess this NG. is a goner.
>>
>> Sal
> I apologize to the newsgroup for my political crap.
There's a simple, easy solution -- if you don't like the off-topic
"political crap", then DON'T READ IT.
"ChairMan" wrote:
> I think OE gets a bad rap, I've used it for years for txt based NGs
> along with OE quotefix
> and its works just fine. Easy, straight-forward and don't have to be
> a geek to use it. I can killfile anyone and anything with the click
> of the mouse.
> Binaries are a differnt story, OE sucks for binaries
---------------------------
That's why AstraWeb exists.
Loves binaries.
OE6 for the other stuff.
Lew
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:44:35 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>I tried Agent, and for me it did nothing more that what I wanted out of
>OLE. I am sure it is a great program but it had way too much going on
>for me. IMHO simpler is better.
Yes, you're correct there. Forte threw everything including the
kitchen sink into Agent. I'm pretty familiar with it now, but once in
awhile I still get lost trying to find out how to do something. But,
for me it's better it's there and I don't need it, than not have the
capability when I need to do something.
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, sal <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I will have to do this, as the crap is very annoying, the regulars
>> are entertaining and knowledgeable.
>
> --> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664
>
> There's your problem...
Not really - he can block whatever he wants in OE.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:31:09 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>lumberjocks.com
>sawmillcreek.org
http://festoolownersgroup.com/
Much, much more general woodworking than just some forums dealing with
Festool tools.
http://forum.canadianwoodworking.com/forum.php
And no, you don't have to subscribe to their magazine to take part in
the forums.
Might as well work up a list for those looking for something else
sal wrote:
>>> I apologize to the newsgroup for my political crap.
>>
>> There's a simple, easy solution -- if you don't like the off-topic
>> "political crap", then DON'T READ IT
>
> By the same token there are (political N/G ) if you want to air your
> opinion, I'm just interested in rec.woodworking.
>
That's fair - and that's why there are filters built into newsreaders.
Every newsgroup suffers OT stuff - it just cannot be avoided. To say that
you're only interested in a particular topic is a bit over the edge. If
that's the case, then the hard line is for you to learn how to use a
newsreader. It's not really all about you.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:44:35 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>>
>
>I tried Agent, and for me it did nothing more that what I wanted out of
>OLE. I am sure it is a great program but it had way too much going on
>for me. IMHO simpler is better.
The older versions of OLE were great. The new Live version sucks. I'm
using Agent now.
"basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4Id1s.537513$%[email protected].
> Are you referring to the Rasta Khan crap?
> I don't see this junk usually, but I suspended
> filtering trying to see what you were talking about.
>
> Get a real newsreader and learn to filter, you won't ever see
> the junk.
>
> basilisk
>
>
>
> --
> A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse
I will have to do this, as the crap is very annoying, the regulars are
entertaining and knowledgeable.
Sal
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:44:35 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>>
>
>I tried Agent, and for me it did nothing more that what I wanted out of
>OLE. I am sure it is a great program but it had way too much going on
>for me. IMHO simpler is better.
The older versions of OLE were great. The new Live version sucks. I'm
using Agent now.
=========================================================================
+1
On 9/4/2012 6:58 AM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, sal <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I will have to do this, as the crap is very annoying, the regulars are
>> entertaining and knowledgeable.
>
> --> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664
>
> There's your problem...
>
I actually wish I had Outlook Express back, not possible with Win 8. I
use Thunderbird instead.
"Dave Balderstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:040920120558118115%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, sal <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I will have to do this, as the crap is very annoying, the regulars are
>> entertaining and knowledgeable.
>
> --> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664
> > There's your problem...
I think OE gets a bad rap, I've used it for years for txt based NGs along
with OE quotefix
and its works just fine. Easy, straight-forward and don't have to be a geek
to use it. I can killfile anyone and anything with the click of the mouse.
Binaries are a differnt story, OE sucks for binaries
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:34:59 -0400, tiredofspam wrote:
>
>> I don't like leaving my real name. People have no filter and say what
>> they want. I was surprised at how much an employer knew about me at my
>> interview.
>
> And I don't like people who don't use their real name. They "say what
> they want" without taking responsibility for it.
>
> And an employer who denies someone a job because they said something
> online the employer didn't like should be tarred and feathered. Luckily,
> I never had a boss like that and I disagreed with a bunch of them :-)
> Now I'm retired and don't have a boss (what's that, dear?).
>
You might change your mind when you get a stalker that doesn't like what you
say and posts all your personal info he can find along with your childrens
and grandkids info. And believe me, there are kooks that will do it and more
BTDT from experience and never again
On 9/3/2012 10:14 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> "sal" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> I guess this NG. is a goner.
>>
>> Sal
>>
>>
>
> Well, today it wasn't too bad. I'm not sure how much my filters got, but
> we do have several on-topic threads going on.
>
> I wouldn't mind finding an active woodworking forum that's not segmented
> into many pieces or requires something that looks like a real name.
I don't like leaving my real name. People have no filter and say what
they want. I was surprised at how much an employer knew about me at my
interview. Very un-nerving. What people respond to you can also taken
into account as I found out. I had to answer for the responses. Again
un-nerving. You won't find my name in a group, or participating in
Facebook, or other social networking either. My friends tried to get me
to join early on. Funny how some of them pulled out for a while because
of how people can be real horses asses.
That's
> what I liked about the wRECk when it was more active.
I was more active on the binaries... I miss that too.
>
> Puckdropper
>
As for this being a goner, probably.. but I'm not likely to join one of
the forums. It takes too much time to got through those.
The more we go forward, the more backward we appear to be. What you had
fed to you, you now have to go get yourself.
"sal" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> I guess this NG. is a goner.
>
> Sal
I apologize to the newsgroup for my political crap. The only excuse I have
is that I feel I should let my viewpoint be heard too (most often I reply,
not start a new thread or redirect from woodworking to poloitics.)
I use my real nickname (it's uncommon in the US), but since this is usenet,
no other easy traces. Occasionally a real email address may pop up, either
in response to a request, or to get a private response.
Also, because I retired and do not expect to have to ever apply for a job
again, I couldn't care about potential employers reading my crap they can
go ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
"sal" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> "basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4Id1s.537513$%[email protected].
>> Are you referring to the Rasta Khan crap?
>> I don't see this junk usually, but I suspended
>> filtering trying to see what you were talking about.
>>
>> Get a real newsreader and learn to filter, you won't ever see
>> the junk.
>>
>> basilisk
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse
>
>
> I will have to do this, as the crap is very annoying, the regulars are
> entertaining and knowledgeable.
>
> Sal
Xnews is free ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On 9/4/2012 12:42 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:34:59 -0400, tiredofspam wrote:
>
>> I don't like leaving my real name. People have no filter and say what
>> they want. I was surprised at how much an employer knew about me at my
>> interview.
>
> And I don't like people who don't use their real name. They "say what
> they want" without taking responsibility for it.
>
Well I try to avoid that. Mostly I try to keep positive and not trash
anyone too bad. Occasionally though there are those who deserve it.
> And an employer who denies someone a job because they said something
> online the employer didn't like should be tarred and feathered.
Well luckily I wasn't denied a job at that point, but who knows when I
wasn't even considered. As far as tarring and feathering, it is what it
is (I hate that saying but it's true here) and you you have to live with
that today.
Luckily,
> I never had a boss like that and I disagreed with a bunch of them :-)
> Now I'm retired and don't have a boss (what's that, dear?).
>
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:45:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>I actually wish I had Outlook Express back, not possible with Win 8. I
>use Thunderbird instead.
I used it for awhile and then on a whim, upgraded to Forte Agent 6.
Best $30 I've spent in a long time. News, groups, save, delete,
reload, preview, messaging what I want, months back if desired, it
does it all. If I can think of something I'd like it to it, chances
are that capability is already programmed into it.
For the occasional crap program I've bought, Agent makes up for all of
them in spades.
"sal" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
I guess this NG. is a goner.
Sal
=======================================================
Looks like it's still here to me.
Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:51 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> I guess it is if that's what you think. Good luck in your quest to find
>> what you really want. There's something out there for everyone.
>
> I keep telling people if they want a busy woodworking group, but
> without all the politics, religion and swearing, then they should have
> a look at the Festool Owners Group. Registration is limited to a valid
> email address.
>
> Although it's a moderated group, that moderation is pretty benign as
> long as you don't get into the three taboos listed above. And, a major
> part the woodworking discussions have nothing at all to do with
> Festool.
>
> But, if those limitations are also too much to bear, then the rec is
> one of the few alternatives.
>
lumberjocks.com and
sawmillcreek.org
both offer something different (than what we have here).
lumberjocks has a lot of members and they have a really huge
skill-range, maybe too huge. sawmillcreek has a classified ad and "sale
awareness" section in their forum (but you have to pay $6 a year to
access that part). If it leads you to something once a year, you surely
get your $6-worth! It pointed me to a new Delta 14" BS for $150 and,
just recently, to a 2 year subscription to Wood magazine for $9.60.
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:34:59 -0400, tiredofspam wrote:
> I don't like leaving my real name. People have no filter and say what
> they want. I was surprised at how much an employer knew about me at my
> interview.
And I don't like people who don't use their real name. They "say what
they want" without taking responsibility for it.
And an employer who denies someone a job because they said something
online the employer didn't like should be tarred and feathered. Luckily,
I never had a boss like that and I disagreed with a bunch of them :-)
Now I'm retired and don't have a boss (what's that, dear?).
--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:14:04 -0500, ChairMan wrote:
> You might change your mind when you get a stalker that doesn't like what
> you say and posts all your personal info he can find along with your
> childrens and grandkids info. And believe me, there are kooks that will
> do it and more BTDT from experience and never again
I've had a couple that posted scurrilous lies about me till they got
tired of it. Personal info is limited as I don't use Facebook or Twitter
or any social media unless you count newsgroups and Yahoo groups. I'm
sure a dedicated hacker could get into whatever files the government
might have on me (i.e. security clearances and the like) but I don't stay
awake wondering about it.
I have been known to write letters to the editor and even a few columns
for our local newspaper, so I'm more likely to find an irate local on my
doorstep. That's why God invented Smith & Wesson :-).
--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
On 9/05/12 6:13 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> sal wrote:
>>>> I apologize to the newsgroup for my political crap.
>>>
>>> There's a simple, easy solution -- if you don't like the off-topic
>>> "political crap", then DON'T READ IT
>>
>> By the same token there are (political N/G ) if you want to air your
>> opinion, I'm just interested in rec.woodworking.
>>
>
> That's fair - and that's why there are filters built into newsreaders.
> Every newsgroup suffers OT stuff - it just cannot be avoided. To say that
> you're only interested in a particular topic is a bit over the edge. If
> that's the case, then the hard line is for you to learn how to use a
> newsreader. It's not really all about you.
>
or visit moderated web forums.....and give up on usenet.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:51 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>I guess it is if that's what you think. Good luck in your quest to find
>what you really want. There's something out there for everyone.
I keep telling people if they want a busy woodworking group, but
without all the politics, religion and swearing, then they should have
a look at the Festool Owners Group. Registration is limited to a valid
email address.
Although it's a moderated group, that moderation is pretty benign as
long as you don't get into the three taboos listed above. And, a major
part the woodworking discussions have nothing at all to do with
Festool.
But, if those limitations are also too much to bear, then the rec is
one of the few alternatives.
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:52:10 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>sal wrote:
>
>>> Have I missed something?It is not really about me.I can use a
>>> filter.All I said was that the political comments were not even
>>> listed O.T. I'm thick skinned , but I see others are not.
>>
>> Sal
>
>Well - then mark them to be ignored. It's not that hard. Newsgroups have
>never been as pristine as to be totally on-topic. You are right that the OT
>disclaimer should be in the subject line, but hell - it's just the way it
>is. Most of the time it's there, and sometimes it's not. Then there are
>the on topic threads that get dragged off topic - by even the best of those
>here (just ask them, they'll tell you they are the best...). It's just how
>it is. Always been that way. Not worth complaining about.
It's not a bug. It's a feature.
On 9/4/2012 8:35 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:45:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> I actually wish I had Outlook Express back, not possible with Win 8. I
>> use Thunderbird instead.
>
> I used it for awhile and then on a whim, upgraded to Forte Agent 6.
> Best $30 I've spent in a long time. News, groups, save, delete,
> reload, preview, messaging what I want, months back if desired, it
> does it all. If I can think of something I'd like it to it, chances
> are that capability is already programmed into it.
>
> For the occasional crap program I've bought, Agent makes up for all of
> them in spades.
>
I tried Agent, and for me it did nothing more that what I wanted out of
OLE. I am sure it is a great program but it had way too much going on
for me. IMHO simpler is better.