"Morris Dovey" wrote:
> I had one similar experience in Minnesota - I spent a good part of
> one day pushing snow off the roof so our 1850's "little house on the
> prairie" wouldn't collapse under the weight.
That was SOP for my guy in Buffalo on at least a 3-4 times/winter
basis.
BTW, here in crispy SoCal (57F) today, the lawn service people were
busy mowing grass.
Lew
On Dec 9, 10:30=A0am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> We have snow. Photo of (3rd floor) window.
>
> =A0 =A0http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Tree640.jpg
>
> National Guard is out rescuing folks caught on I-80 and I-35.
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Man, I sure hope for your sake (and the people below you) that it's a
balcony we're looking at. <G>
Morris Dovey wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>> On Dec 9, 10:30 am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> We have snow. Photo of (3rd floor) window.
>>>
>>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Tree640.jpg
>>>
>>> National Guard is out rescuing folks caught on I-80 and I-35.
>>
>> Man, I sure hope for your sake (and the people below you) that it's a
>> balcony we're looking at. <G>
>
> It is, of course. An hour later, the snow has accumulated nearly a foot
> higher. We've only had about 16" of snow, but the wind is piling it up
> in sheltered spots.
>
> This is unusual weather for this area (and I recall that it was normal
> when I lived just 150 miles north of Des Moines), but the weather folks
> provided a full week of warning that we had moist gulf air, a
> low-pressure system from the left coast, and Saskatchewan cold scheduled
> to collide yesterday afternoon. The original forecast was only off by
> about two hours, and everyone had a chance to prepare.
>
> In Des Moines, they plowed all night to maintain at least a one-lane
> passage on all streets for emergency vehicles. I suspect those drivers
> are pretty tired by now.
>
> I understand that in rural areas they're expecting 8-12' drifts, and
> that they've recalled the plow trucks because of the unusually high winds.
>
> It's a great day to stay indoors with a fire in the fireplace. :)
>
Here's Accu-Weather's Chief Meteorologist Joe Bastardi yesterday on his
European blog:
<Quote>
U.S. MODEL ENGULFING EUROPE IN SNOW NEXT 15 DAYS.
I have been telling people in the States now for a couple of weeks that
a "December to remember" is on the way, and over here we have the best
setup for a widespread white Christmas in many a year. Well, today I
will try, on our free site at accuweather.com, to cut a video showing
what is the most widespread snowcover I have ever seen a model forecast
as fully all of Europe is forecasted to be covered in snow by the 23rd!
Now this is an extreme event, something out of the Victorian era, and we
should take it with a grain of salt. In fact, it's a bit early for my
liking, as I felt it would be during the middle and late parts of winter
when we would see this, hence the big debate in the fall with Hadley
over the warm winter that we didn't see for Europe, but up until
recently, they were. In fact, the winter of 2002-2003 looks better to me
as a base forecast, but that is just the base. It doesn't mean it can't
be a bit colder. Here in the States, it is colder earlier also than that
winter which had a rather mild December. This December will be no such
thing.
In any case, the free site hit I will do as my vblog today will give a
double shot of arctic love to my friends across the pond... though in a
couple of weeks that shoreline may have a lot of snow on it.
Again, this is the kind of thing I expected to see this winter... winter
"backing in" from the northeast, but I am a bit skeptical because it is
early. Then again, if the theories on sunspot cycles are right, and by
2030 we are returning to the time of Dickens and Victoria, might as well
start now. The sooner the better with the agenda-driven people meeting
to decide the fate of the planet.
</Quote>
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Morris Dovey wrote:
>
> I had one similar experience in Minnesota - I spent a good part of one
> day pushing snow off the roof so our 1850's "little house on the
> prairie" wouldn't collapse under the weight. (That was back in the days
> when it didn't bother me to put up seven cords every year and shovel a
> 600' driveway by hand.) Now, I'm enough older to be happy down here in
> sunny, tropical Iowa. :)
>
Having lived in sub-tropical Minnesota, you must know all the Iowa jokes?
Q:What do they call 100 tractors circling a McDonald's in Iowa?
A: Prom night.
Iowa: We Do Amazing Things With Corn
Iowa: Just east of Omaha
Iowa: It's easy to spell
etc....
Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 9, 10:30 am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We have snow. Photo of (3rd floor) window.
>>
>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Tree640.jpg
>>
>> National Guard is out rescuing folks caught on I-80 and I-35.
>
> Man, I sure hope for your sake (and the people below you) that it's a
> balcony we're looking at. <G>
It is, of course. An hour later, the snow has accumulated nearly a foot
higher. We've only had about 16" of snow, but the wind is piling it up
in sheltered spots.
This is unusual weather for this area (and I recall that it was normal
when I lived just 150 miles north of Des Moines), but the weather folks
provided a full week of warning that we had moist gulf air, a
low-pressure system from the left coast, and Saskatchewan cold scheduled
to collide yesterday afternoon. The original forecast was only off by
about two hours, and everyone had a chance to prepare.
In Des Moines, they plowed all night to maintain at least a one-lane
passage on all streets for emergency vehicles. I suspect those drivers
are pretty tired by now.
I understand that in rural areas they're expecting 8-12' drifts, and
that they've recalled the plow trucks because of the unusually high winds.
It's a great day to stay indoors with a fire in the fireplace. :)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Morris Dovey wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>> On Dec 9, 10:30 am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> We have snow. Photo of (3rd floor) window.
>>>
>>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Tree640.jpg
>>>
>>> National Guard is out rescuing folks caught on I-80 and I-35.
>>
>> Man, I sure hope for your sake (and the people below you) that it's a
>> balcony we're looking at. <G>
>
> It is, of course. An hour later, the snow has accumulated nearly a foot
> higher. We've only had about 16" of snow, but the wind is piling it up
> in sheltered spots.
>
> This is unusual weather for this area (and I recall that it was normal
> when I lived just 150 miles north of Des Moines), ...
We just slid by on the south side out here, getting just a dusting of
snow but most of the cold and a lot of the wind as the low passed east.
I'd have thought that would've been pretty normal when it snowed there
as well--we never expect to get snow w/o wind out here; I know you get a
fair amount less wind than we but still...
I recall a late spring snow in Lynchburg, VA and the Blue Ridge the year
after moved there after getting out of school. About 2-ft of snow and
the wind didn't blow at all!!! Gorgeous to look at and late enough
roads pretty much melted on their own. The biggest recollection was it
was first time I'd ever seen snow actually stay on trees, fenceposts,
etc., etc., ... I never believed it was possible to get such pictures
in reality; I had always thought the Christmas card scenes, etc., were
fake... :)
Worst blowing/drifting in my memory here was spring '57 -- after it was
over (3 days of snow w/ up to 70mph wind) we've picture of brother and
myself head-level high w/ a 30-ft light pole in the yard that was in
line w/ a row of trees and windcharger tower between the two houses.
Buried our small one-story house entirely; we rode it out in
grandparents 2-story which fortunately had hot-water gas heat.
--
dpb wrote:
> Morris Dovey wrote:
>> This is unusual weather for this area (and I recall that it was normal
>> when I lived just 150 miles north of Des Moines), ...
>
> We just slid by on the south side out here, getting just a dusting of
> snow but most of the cold and a lot of the wind as the low passed east.
>
> I'd have thought that would've been pretty normal when it snowed there
> as well--we never expect to get snow w/o wind out here; I know you get a
> fair amount less wind than we but still...
There's a windy "belt" across the state extending about 30 miles below
the Minnesota state line. Through most of the rest of the state we coil
up the wind and save it to enjoy with hail in spring. ;)
>
> I recall a late spring snow in Lynchburg, VA and the Blue Ridge the year
> after moved there after getting out of school. About 2-ft of snow and
> the wind didn't blow at all!!! Gorgeous to look at and late enough
> roads pretty much melted on their own. The biggest recollection was it
> was first time I'd ever seen snow actually stay on trees, fenceposts,
> etc., etc., ... I never believed it was possible to get such pictures
> in reality; I had always thought the Christmas card scenes, etc., were
> fake... :)
That sounds a lot like the snowfall we enjoyed in Poughkeepsie (lower
Hudson River Valley area in New York). 'Tis beautiful indeed!
> Worst blowing/drifting in my memory here was spring '57 -- after it was
> over (3 days of snow w/ up to 70mph wind) we've picture of brother and
> myself head-level high w/ a 30-ft light pole in the yard that was in
> line w/ a row of trees and windcharger tower between the two houses.
> Buried our small one-story house entirely; we rode it out in
> grandparents 2-story which fortunately had hot-water gas heat.
I had one similar experience in Minnesota - I spent a good part of one
day pushing snow off the roof so our 1850's "little house on the
prairie" wouldn't collapse under the weight. (That was back in the days
when it didn't bother me to put up seven cords every year and shovel a
600' driveway by hand.) Now, I'm enough older to be happy down here in
sunny, tropical Iowa. :)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
jo4hn wrote:
> Having lived in sub-tropical Minnesota, you must know all the Iowa jokes?
I heard a lot - but doubt I heard anywhere near all. I hadn't really
thought much about it, but nearly all the Minnesota jokes I've heard
were being told my Minnesotans (in Minnesota).
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On 2009-12-09, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> higher. We've only had about 16" of snow, but the wind is piling it up
> in sheltered spots.
Been there, shoveled that.
nb ...CO at 8000ft