clamps

If you've noticed, these things tend to sit on the shelves a long time. IMO,
clamps in this range are currently overpriced and these "sales" prove the
point ... people simply don't buy them until they're on sale, as we see here
all the time.

I'd bet that sooner or later that the Bessey's, Gros Stabil's, and
Jorgenson's are going to have to have a price shakeout ... and, hopefully
for the woodworker, these little "sales" skirmishes are an indication of
what's to come.

Now, if Jorgenson would add just $7.50 per unit to the sales price of
yesterday, and use the resultant figure as their retail price, most of us
here would still buy a boatload tomorrow, and Jorgenson would move another
"extraordinary amount of clamps" and still make money ... as I'd bet they do
on the "sales" price.

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"Leon" wrote in message

> Apparently these sales are moving an extraordinary amount of clamps.

IMO, it ain't "bullshit" so much as naïveté.

The company "since last spring", with a "huge buy of raw materials",
manufactured then sold all those clamps out of gratitiude to customers they
obviously never had before, lost money on each one, AND then is compelled to
"answer all of your questions, and clear up a lot of the speculation
surrounding" WHY the sale took place?

.... and folks apparently believe every word.

Clampman's post is chock full of words that are guaranteed "button pushers"
in the marketing game ... wouldn't be surprised if he is something other
than CSM as well.

All of which further reinforces my believe that these damn things are
normally priced too high to sell, unless you come up with a gimmick, like an
Anniversary Sale.

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"TT" wrote in message news

> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:52:10 GMT, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] says...
> >> Jack,
> >>
> >> I think you hit the nail on the head. Jorgensen used this "100 year
> >> anniversary" promotion to dump their inventory. A "new and improved"
> >> version will be out shortly.
> >>
> >> Bob
>
> What bullshit! Adjustable's cust service mgr explained the company's
> thinking regarding all the promotions in the Woodnet forums 2 days
> ago. Why don't you do a little research before you spout off, or do
> you figure the company's CSM must be a liar?

If that was indeed a five year supply gone in one hour, then common sense
would indicate that the normal retail price is set too high, and the sale
price was set too low.

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"BigDog" wrote in message
>
> Here is a quote from the website:
>
>
> Sold Out! — We're sorry, but we've completely sold out of our Jorgensen
> Clamp inventory. What was normally a five year supply of clamps sold out
in
> less than one hour.

The indicator is that they sold what was normally a 5 year supply. I think
the clamps were introduced last year IIRC. They probably ordered a 5 year
supply for the sale at the reduced price. A business would be foolish to
keep a 5 year supply of anything on hand. An item should turn 3 to 6 rimes
a year minimum.
I would agree that the sale price was ridiculously low, however selling at
that price was probably cheaper than advertising and they did get the clamp
out and into the hands of the buyers. Word of mouth can be better than
advertising.
I bought several of these clamps in August from another company for the same
price and the inventory was sold out right after I ordered. A week after
ordering I called to follow up on the order and the gentleman laughed and
indicated that I must be calling about the clamps. Yeah I said... He said
that they would ship soon as they had been spending 80% of their time boxing
and shipping these clamps for the last week... I got my clamps a week
later. Apparently these sales are moving an extraordinary amount of clamps.


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If that was indeed a five year supply gone in one hour, then common sense
> would indicate that the normal retail price is set too high, and the sale
> price was set too low.
>
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>
> "BigDog" wrote in message
> >
> > Here is a quote from the website:
> >
> >
> > Sold Out! - We're sorry, but we've completely sold out of our Jorgensen
> > Clamp inventory. What was normally a five year supply of clamps sold out
> in
> > less than one hour.
>
>

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:28:42 GMT, "Myxylplyk" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'd say that Jorgensen will be offering a better clamp for the same price any time now....
>

I have 4. They are good clamps, but I still reach for the K-Body
Besseys first.

Jack,

I think you hit the nail on the head. Jorgensen used this "100 year
anniversary" promotion to dump their inventory. A "new and improved"
version will be out shortly.

Bob


"Myxylplyk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:_O%[email protected]...
> I'd say that Jorgensen will be offering a better clamp for the same price
any time now....
>
> "JackD" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > And that they aren't going to be selling many clamps for the next five
> > years.
> >
> > -Jack
> >
> >
> > "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > If that was indeed a five year supply gone in one hour, then common
sense
> > > would indicate that the normal retail price is set too high, and the
sale
> > > price was set too low.
> > >
> > > --
> > > www.e-woodshop.net
> > >
> > > "BigDog" wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > Here is a quote from the website:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sold Out! - We're sorry, but we've completely sold out of our
Jorgensen
> > > > Clamp inventory. What was normally a five year supply of clamps sold
out
> > > in
> > > > less than one hour.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

I'd say that Jorgensen will be offering a better clamp for the same price any time now....

"JackD" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> And that they aren't going to be selling many clamps for the next five
> years.
>
> -Jack
>
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > If that was indeed a five year supply gone in one hour, then common sense
> > would indicate that the normal retail price is set too high, and the sale
> > price was set too low.
> >
> > --
> > www.e-woodshop.net
> >
> > "BigDog" wrote in message
> > >
> > > Here is a quote from the website:
> > >
> > >
> > > Sold Out! - We're sorry, but we've completely sold out of our Jorgensen
> > > Clamp inventory. What was normally a five year supply of clamps sold out
> > in
> > > less than one hour.
> >
> >
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Jack,
>
> I think you hit the nail on the head. Jorgensen used this "100 year
> anniversary" promotion to dump their inventory. A "new and improved"
> version will be out shortly.
>
> Bob
>
>

Wonder if maybe they've come up with a design that doesn't lock tight
so easily; a problem related by a number of posters.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> If that was indeed a five year supply gone in one hour, then common sense
> would indicate that the normal retail price is set too high, and the sale
> price was set too low.
>

Just out of curiosity, have these Jorgenson clamps even been available
for 5 years? I suppose it is entirely possible, and I've just been
having so much fun that time has flown by that quickly :-)


> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
>
> "BigDog" wrote in message
> >
> > Here is a quote from the website:
> >
> >
> > Sold Out! — We're sorry, but we've completely sold out of our Jorgensen
> > Clamp inventory. What was normally a five year supply of clamps sold out
> in
> > less than one hour.
>
>
>
>

And that they aren't going to be selling many clamps for the next five
years.

-Jack


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If that was indeed a five year supply gone in one hour, then common sense
> would indicate that the normal retail price is set too high, and the sale
> price was set too low.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
>
> "BigDog" wrote in message
> >
> > Here is a quote from the website:
> >
> >
> > Sold Out! - We're sorry, but we've completely sold out of our Jorgensen
> > Clamp inventory. What was normally a five year supply of clamps sold out
> in
> > less than one hour.
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:52:10 GMT, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> Jack,
> >>
> >> I think you hit the nail on the head. Jorgensen used this "100 year
> >> anniversary" promotion to dump their inventory. A "new and improved"
> >> version will be out shortly.
> >>
> >> Bob
>
> What bullshit! Adjustable's cust service mgr explained the company's
> thinking regarding all the promotions in the Woodnet forums 2 days
> ago. Why don't you do a little research before you spout off, or do
> you figure the company's CSM must be a liar?
>

Dunno, were his lips moving? ;-)

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
>
> Just out of curiosity, have these Jorgenson clamps even been available
> for 5 years? I suppose it is entirely possible, and I've just been
> having so much fun that time has flown by that quickly :-)
>


IIRC I read about the new Cabinet Master clamps in Wood Magazine last year
when they were compared and rated superior to GS, and Bessy.
They probably ordered a 5 year supply quantity in preparation for the sale.

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:52:10 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> Jack,
>>
>> I think you hit the nail on the head. Jorgensen used this "100 year
>> anniversary" promotion to dump their inventory. A "new and improved"
>> version will be out shortly.
>>
>> Bob

What bullshit! Adjustable's cust service mgr explained the company's
thinking regarding all the promotions in the Woodnet forums 2 days
ago. Why don't you do a little research before you spout off, or do
you figure the company's CSM must be a liar?