In article <[email protected]>, R.H.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Also, after the last photo there's a link to a combination tool that I
> created a while ago. If I can just sell a few million of these, I could
> retire early and spend more time working on the web site. ;-)
Tell the truth, Rob. You've really been designing Klingon
switchblades...
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On Nov 7, 11:15 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1136. I don't think it's a slim jim.
1137. Some sort of rabbet plane for wood that uses saw teeth instead
of a plane blade. Perhaps for across the grain rabbits.
Thanks
Karl
1136: Gauge, not sure what for. Varies from 7/8" to 1-7/8"
1137: Old router. from back before curves were invented.
1138: Scale, for distance in inches
1139: Cast iron steamer, not a bed warmer the top would be solid
instead of vented
1140: Liquid gas furnace/light reflector
1141: Pipe bender for up to 1 inch stock
Dave FL
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:49:24 -0500, "R.H."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> R.H. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A visitor of the site sent me the following description and photos, maybe
>>> someone will know what it is:
>>>
>>>
>>> My brother works at a local cemetary, and when he was digging out a bush
>>> he found the attached. We thought it might be a decorative attachment
>>> for a headstone, but as you can see, there is nothing to attach with. It
>>> is 6 1/2 inches long, 1 1/2 inches high, and 1/4 inch deep. The metal
>>> appears to be bronze. The cameo looks like a white stone, and the picture
>>> of a man and woman sitting on something appear to be dressed in
>>> pre-victorian garb. The man seems to be wearing a white wig. Maybe you
>>> or one of your readers might know what this is and when it was
>>> manufactured. I could find nothing about it on the net. It seems a
>>> curious thing to find in a cemetary. Any help you or one of your readers
>>> might shed on this would be most appreciated.
>>>
>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aabrnz-2.jpg
>>>
>> It may have been soldered. Lead/tin solder is less noble than brass, so
>> galvanic corrosion eats up the solder. In addition, the two metals expand
>> and contract at different rates.
>
>
>Yes, I was thinking that it was probably glued, soldered or otherwise
>affixed to a headstone. I guess that we'll never know for sure but I
>thought that I would ask here in case someone had seen something like it.
Hi Rob,
As you probably already know, they do some pretty elaborate
stuff with gravestone/monuments nowadays. If they haven't
already, the person asking should check with some of the
monument suppliers. Especially some of those that were close
by to where this was found. A lot of the time they put a
sticker on the monument that tells who the maker/supplier
was. I suspect the cameo/picture had some special meaning to
somebody buried there and was once attached to the monument
(shrug).
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Several new photos and a few links can be found on the answer page:
http://pzphotosans205-4.blogspot.com/
Also, after the last photo there's a link to a combination tool that I
created a while ago. If I can just sell a few million of these, I could
retire early and spend more time working on the web site. ;-)
Rob
"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
>
> Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
> http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
>
> Also see WWJ Vol 25-3 June 2001 pg 82.
> Art
>
> PS for the non woodworkers WWJ - WoodWorkers Journal.
Thanks! Just updated the answer page and emailed the owner of it.
Rob
> This patent isn't exact, but very similar in function to the
> tool in question. Patent number 2,170,389 issued Aug 22,
> 1939. See:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2170389
>
> It uses a rotary cutter, but the spring/pressure adjustment,
> clamp and folding method are very close to the same.
Just added the patent link to the answer page, thanks for finding that.
Rob
A couple more for this week, I know the answer to this first one, it's about
3" tall:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aaa1.jpg
Bottom view of it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aaa2.jpg
A visitor of the site sent me the following description and photos, maybe
someone will know what it is:
My brother works at a local cemetary, and when he was digging out a bush he
found the attached. We thought it might be a decorative attachment for a
headstone, but as you can see, there is nothing to attach with. It is 6 1/2
inches long, 1 1/2 inches high, and 1/4 inch deep. The metal appears to be
bronze. The cameo looks like a white stone, and the picture of a man and
woman sitting on something appear to be dressed in pre-victorian garb. The
man seems to be wearing a white wig. Maybe you or one of your readers might
know what this is and when it was manufactured. I could find nothing about
it on the net. It seems a curious thing to find in a cemetary. Any help
you or one of your readers might shed on this would be most appreciated.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aabrnz-2.jpg
Rob
"Smaug Ichorfang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> A couple more for this week, I know the answer to this first one, it's
>> about 3" tall:
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aaa1.jpg
>>
>>
> Is it possible you have it upsidedown? Looks like if it was inverted, it
> could hold bunches of flowers (or buds).
It's not upsidedown, but then I wouldn't say that it's right side up either,
when in use it isn't at rest on a table.
Rob
"Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> R.H. wrote:
>
>>
>> A visitor of the site sent me the following description and photos, maybe
>> someone will know what it is:
>>
>>
>> My brother works at a local cemetary, and when he was digging out a bush
>> he found the attached. We thought it might be a decorative attachment
>> for a headstone, but as you can see, there is nothing to attach with. It
>> is 6 1/2 inches long, 1 1/2 inches high, and 1/4 inch deep. The metal
>> appears to be bronze. The cameo looks like a white stone, and the picture
>> of a man and woman sitting on something appear to be dressed in
>> pre-victorian garb. The man seems to be wearing a white wig. Maybe you
>> or one of your readers might know what this is and when it was
>> manufactured. I could find nothing about it on the net. It seems a
>> curious thing to find in a cemetary. Any help you or one of your readers
>> might shed on this would be most appreciated.
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aabrnz-2.jpg
>>
> It may have been soldered. Lead/tin solder is less noble than brass, so
> galvanic corrosion eats up the solder. In addition, the two metals expand
> and contract at different rates.
Yes, I was thinking that it was probably glued, soldered or otherwise
affixed to a headstone. I guess that we'll never know for sure but I
thought that I would ask here in case someone had seen something like it.
Rob
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A couple more for this week, I know the answer to this first one, it's
>about 3" tall:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aaa1.jpg
>
> Bottom view of it:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aaa2.jpg
>
The answer for this object: it's an ear trumpet, or hearing trumpet, it's
held up to the ear to amplify sound.
A wide variety of them can be seen half way down this page:
http://www.phisick.com/zent.htm
Rob
R.H. wrote:
>
> A visitor of the site sent me the following description and photos,
> maybe someone will know what it is:
>
>
> My brother works at a local cemetary, and when he was digging out a bush
> he found the attached. We thought it might be a decorative attachment
> for a headstone, but as you can see, there is nothing to attach with.
> It is 6 1/2 inches long, 1 1/2 inches high, and 1/4 inch deep. The
> metal appears to be bronze. The cameo looks like a white stone, and the
> picture of a man and woman sitting on something appear to be dressed in
> pre-victorian garb. The man seems to be wearing a white wig. Maybe you
> or one of your readers might know what this is and when it was
> manufactured. I could find nothing about it on the net. It seems a
> curious thing to find in a cemetary. Any help you or one of your
> readers might shed on this would be most appreciated.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aabrnz-2.jpg
>
It may have been soldered. Lead/tin solder is less noble than brass, so
galvanic corrosion eats up the solder. In addition, the two metals
expand and contract at different rates.
In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>The latest set has just been posted:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
1136: An LPDA made by someone who just doesn't get it.
1137: Ye Olde Movie Camera
1138: Body fat calipers
1139: Dutch oven, with perforated lid. Or world's worst pressure cooker.
1140: Ye Olde Patio Heater, with light
1141: I'm pretty sure it doesn't make pasta.
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1140 Censer (Guess) Wall mounted smell maker.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1136 a gauge, not sure of the specific purpose
1137 - rabbet plane, but not really a plane
1138 - and indexed caliper
1139 - a top for a dutch oven, get it really hot and put it on top to
brown the top crust?
1140 - A three light gas lantern?
1141 - Something to score and bend conduit?
R.H. wrote:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
"Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave wrote:
>> 1136: Gauge, not sure what for. Varies from 7/8" to 1-7/8"
>
> As closely as I can measure from the photo, the smallest is 22mm (7/8")
> and the largest 47mm (almost 1 7/8"), but the increments are not linear or
> exponential:
> 22, 26, 27, 28, 29, 33, 36, 43, 46, 47.
>
>> 1138: Scale, for distance in inches
>
> Maybe it was used to sort wood posts, either for sale or for milling.
1136 could be part of a clock spring gauge. Some of the older English clocks
had very wide mainsprings.
Steve R.
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Dave wrote:
> 1136: Gauge, not sure what for. Varies from 7/8" to 1-7/8"
As closely as I can measure from the photo, the smallest is 22mm (7/8")
and the largest 47mm (almost 1 7/8"), but the increments are not linear
or exponential:
22, 26, 27, 28, 29, 33, 36, 43, 46, 47.
> 1138: Scale, for distance in inches
Maybe it was used to sort wood posts, either for sale or for milling.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> A couple more for this week, I know the answer to this first one, it's
> about 3" tall:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/_aaa1.jpg
>
>
Is it possible you have it upsidedown? Looks like if it was inverted, it
could hold bunches of flowers (or buds).
"Northe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1140: egg candler (?)
>
> Northe
egg candler is that i thought too (because it's got fabric around the holes
to cushion the eggs), but i can't figure out why an egg candler would need
three holes. and, does it make sense to have a device that gets HOT to be
attached directly and so closely to a wall, that may be flammable?
b.w.
Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
Also see WWJ Vol 25-3 June 2001 pg 82.
Art
PS for the non woodworkers WWJ - WoodWorkers Journal.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Several new photos and a few links can be found on the answer page:
>
>
> http://pzphotosans205-4.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Also, after the last photo there's a link to a combination tool that I
> created a while ago. If I can just sell a few million of these, I could
> retire early and spend more time working on the web site. ;-)
>
>
>
> Rob
>
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:31:49 -0500, Bill Rider <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Artemus wrote:
>> Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
>>
>> Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
>> http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
>>
>>
>The similarity is intriguing. So are the differences.
>
>1. The tool shown in use is made to clamp securly in a vise.
>
>2. The tool shown in use has a frame to hold the other end of the armature.
>
>3. The tool shown in use doesn't clamp the armature. If it were
>clamped, it might be bent or otherwise damaged, and it would be time
>consuming for the workman to line up each slot for cutting.
>
>If the tool in question was used for the same purpose as the tool shown
>in use, I wonder how it was set up.
Hey Bill,
I see what you are saying, but there is no doubt that it is "A Mica
Under-cutter". If I hadda guess at the differences, it would be that
the one in RH's "CCV" list is, versus the one in the photos from
Artemus, designed for larger commutators than those from cars or of
small motors. I would think it is designed to clamp onto some part of
the brush-gear while the machine is still in situ. And in either
case, the workman STILL has"to line up each slot for cutting". In
fact, while I've never seen one of these, the motorized units for the
same job still require you " to line up each slot for cutting ". I
also suspect that, even as with a similar purpose tool from Ideal
Electric which I've used (all too often!!) that is "totally" manual,
the "cutter" is a piece of hack-saw blade. Interesting to note that
once you get past a certain size commutator, and providing it isn't of
an extreme voltage, the "slot size" (width) is the same on them all.
Take care.
Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.
Brian Lawson wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:31:49 -0500, Bill Rider <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Artemus wrote:
>>> Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
>>>
>>> Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
>>> http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
>>>
>>>
>> The similarity is intriguing. So are the differences.
>>
>> 1. The tool shown in use is made to clamp securly in a vise.
>>
>> 2. The tool shown in use has a frame to hold the other end of the armature.
>>
>> 3. The tool shown in use doesn't clamp the armature. If it were
>> clamped, it might be bent or otherwise damaged, and it would be time
>> consuming for the workman to line up each slot for cutting.
>>
>> If the tool in question was used for the same purpose as the tool shown
>> in use, I wonder how it was set up.
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> I see what you are saying, but there is no doubt that it is "A Mica
> Under-cutter". If I hadda guess at the differences, it would be that
> the one in RH's "CCV" list is, versus the one in the photos from
> Artemus, designed for larger commutators than those from cars or of
> small motors. I would think it is designed to clamp onto some part of
> the brush-gear while the machine is still in situ. And in either
> case, the workman STILL has"to line up each slot for cutting". In
> fact, while I've never seen one of these, the motorized units for the
> same job still require you " to line up each slot for cutting ". I
> also suspect that, even as with a similar purpose tool from Ideal
> Electric which I've used (all too often!!) that is "totally" manual,
> the "cutter" is a piece of hack-saw blade. Interesting to note that
> once you get past a certain size commutator, and providing it isn't of
> an extreme voltage, the "slot size" (width) is the same on them all.
>
> Take care.
>
> Brian Lawson,
> Bothwell, Ontario.
Until I saw Artemus' photos I didn't imagine the sawing motion that
would result from moving the lever. I guess the tool was designed for
rigidity rather than strength and the D handle was to reduce fatigue
from making dozens of cuts.
I wonder if the long clamp screw was somehow easier to reach in situ.
Do you know why the tool has a notch by one of the hinge screws?
According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
O.K. Posting from RCM again.
1136) Looks like either a set of measures of very similar sizes
(plus a different set of similar sizes on the other side), or a
guide for spacing parts in an assembly.
1137) Hmm ... it looks semi-related to a wood plane, except
that the working end is closer to a file.
I presume that the two aluminum knobs in front adjust
individually the depths of the two "file" sections. The knob on
the side adjusts the offset relative to the side guide plate, or
perhaps the position of the swinging guide plate standing clear
from the overall assembly.
The box on top also appears to serve to adjust the depth of cut,
so I would *really* like to have it in my hands for examination,
rather than just the few photos. That would also help me to
determine whether the "files" on the bottom are hardened, or
rubber brake assemblies instead.
Perhaps the aluminum knobs simply serve to clamp the files in
place once they are set to depth by the center knob on the top.
1138) A caliper -- given the shape, perhaps for measuring the width
and fore-to-aft dimensions of a person's skull in half-inch
increments.
1139) It looks as though it is for holding a fire around a central
container (which is not present as shown). Perhaps for
generating steam to power something from the collection
partially shown behind the main object?
1140) For heating three containers -- perhaps some kind of paint or
wax, or perhaps cups of tea. Powered by a kerosene lantern,
based on the control knobs at the narrow section and the glass
chimney protected inside the top.
1141) I don't see anything for moving the blade relative to the main
frame, but it still might be for cutting semi-circular grooves
in the end of the round object clamped by the lower section.
A good puzzling set this week.
Now to see what others have guessed.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Here we go again...
1136 -- This appears to be a gauge for checking/measuring the width or
spacing of something. Is it possibly for spacing the frets when
building a stringed instrument--perhaps a ukulele?
1137 -- This would seem to cut rabbets in the edge of a narrow strip of
some material. The cutters don't look particularly suited for wood, so
possibly it's for shaping countertop material at joints or around sinks.
1138 -- A tool to measure/check the diameter of shafting?
1139 -- This I'm quite sure of; it's a humidifier for use on a wood
stove, kept filled with water that simmers as the stove heats. Very
good to have; with it, you can sometimes even keep the relative humidity
in the double digits while heating with wood. (OK, maybe I'm
exaggerating the drying effects a little bit, but wood stoves do tend to
dry out the inside air a lot.)
1140 -- A very peculiar contraption; it's meant to be wall-mounted, and
contains a lamp for heat or light, oddly with two wick adjusters and
presumably two wicks. The glass or mirror panels make one suspect some
optical device, perhaps to compare samples of something. The large
lined holes could hold eggs, but I have no idea why you'd need to check
three eggs at once for blood or chicks. Perhaps this is used when
grading maple syrup (which is graded by darkness)?
1141 -- This could be used to find and mark the center of stock prior to
chucking it in a lathe. The thumbscrew adjustment for the blade depth
would seem to be superfluous for such uses, though.
Now to read other's ideas.
--
Andrew Erickson
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot
Oops, did it again.
ABPW = alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
Art
"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I agree. The link I provided was the closest I could find on the web.
> However the WWJ issue has a pic which is virtually identical to Rob's.
> I'll post a shot of the pic on ABPW. I took it with my camera and the
> quality is only so-so. I don't have a scanner.
> In use I would assume the armature is held by some other device and
> the is clamped to the armature shaft next to the commutator.
> Art
>
> "Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Artemus wrote:
> > > Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
> > >
> > > Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
> > > http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
> > >
> > >
> > The similarity is intriguing. So are the differences.
> >
> > 1. The tool shown in use is made to clamp securly in a vise.
> >
> > 2. The tool shown in use has a frame to hold the other end of the armature.
> >
> > 3. The tool shown in use doesn't clamp the armature. If it were
> > clamped, it might be bent or otherwise damaged, and it would be time
> > consuming for the workman to line up each slot for cutting.
> >
> > If the tool in question was used for the same purpose as the tool shown
> > in use, I wonder how it was set up.
>
>
Artemus wrote:
> Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
>
> Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
> http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
>
>
The similarity is intriguing. So are the differences.
1. The tool shown in use is made to clamp securly in a vise.
2. The tool shown in use has a frame to hold the other end of the armature.
3. The tool shown in use doesn't clamp the armature. If it were
clamped, it might be bent or otherwise damaged, and it would be time
consuming for the workman to line up each slot for cutting.
If the tool in question was used for the same purpose as the tool shown
in use, I wonder how it was set up.
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:31:49 -0500, Bill Rider
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Artemus wrote:
>> Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
>>
>> Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
>> http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
>>
>>
>The similarity is intriguing. So are the differences.
>
>1. The tool shown in use is made to clamp securly in a vise.
>
>2. The tool shown in use has a frame to hold the other end of the armature.
>
>3. The tool shown in use doesn't clamp the armature. If it were
>clamped, it might be bent or otherwise damaged, and it would be time
>consuming for the workman to line up each slot for cutting.
>
>If the tool in question was used for the same purpose as the tool shown
>in use, I wonder how it was set up.
This patent isn't exact, but very similar in function to the
tool in question. Patent number 2,170,389 issued Aug 22,
1939. See:
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2170389
It uses a rotary cutter, but the spring/pressure adjustment,
clamp and folding method are very close to the same.
--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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1141. Electric motor armature undercutter for cutting the mica
to below the surface of the metal on the commutator.
Art
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 04:15:29 -0500, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>The latest set has just been posted:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
1136: That's a "Slim Jim" for opening car doors when one locks their
keys inside the car. Worked on older model cars. Not sure if it works
on today's models.
Dunno the rest.
Dave
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:04:54 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, R.H.
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Also, after the last photo there's a link to a combination tool that I
>> created a while ago. If I can just sell a few million of these, I could
>> retire early and spend more time working on the web site. ;-)
>
>Tell the truth, Rob. You've really been designing Klingon
>switchblades...
Hey, if he chromes them and puts pretty, fancy grips on them, he could
probably sell them by the job lot to various knife catalog/comic books
like Smoky Mountain Knives..
Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
Also see WWJ Vol 25-3 June 2001 pg 82.
Art
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Several new photos and a few links can be found on the answer page:
>
>
> http://pzphotosans205-4.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Also, after the last photo there's a link to a combination tool that I
> created a while ago. If I can just sell a few million of these, I could
> retire early and spend more time working on the web site. ;-)
>
>
>
> Rob
>
Artemus wrote:
> Oops, did it again.
> ABPW = alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
> Art
>
> "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I agree. The link I provided was the closest I could find on the web.
>> However the WWJ issue has a pic which is virtually identical to Rob's.
>> I'll post a shot of the pic on ABPW. I took it with my camera and the
>> quality is only so-so. I don't have a scanner.
>> In use I would assume the armature is held by some other device and
>> the is clamped to the armature shaft next to the commutator.
>> Art
>>
>> "Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Artemus wrote:
>>>> Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
>>>>
>>>> Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
>>>> http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The similarity is intriguing. So are the differences.
>>>
>>> 1. The tool shown in use is made to clamp securly in a vise.
>>>
>>> 2. The tool shown in use has a frame to hold the other end of the armature.
>>>
>>> 3. The tool shown in use doesn't clamp the armature. If it were
>>> clamped, it might be bent or otherwise damaged, and it would be time
>>> consuming for the workman to line up each slot for cutting.
>>>
>>> If the tool in question was used for the same purpose as the tool shown
>>> in use, I wonder how it was set up.
>>
>
>
Thanks.
In 1930 an undercutter was patented that was like a utility knife with a
saw blade. I suppose our model was designed to make sure the blade
sawed on the same path every stroke. Maybe the shaft was taped to
protect it from the clamp.
The clamp screw is long. Maybe it served as a lever to help get the
blade lined up with a slot before tightening.
I agree. The link I provided was the closest I could find on the web.
However the WWJ issue has a pic which is virtually identical to Rob's.
I'll post a shot of the pic on ABPW. I took it with my camera and the
quality is only so-so. I don't have a scanner.
In use I would assume the armature is held by some other device and
the is clamped to the armature shaft next to the commutator.
Art
"Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Artemus wrote:
> > Hmmm, previous post didn't show up on my server so I repeat ....
> >
> > Re #1141 - I couldn't find a patent but look at #10 here:
> > http://www.streetcruizin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65548
> >
> >
> The similarity is intriguing. So are the differences.
>
> 1. The tool shown in use is made to clamp securly in a vise.
>
> 2. The tool shown in use has a frame to hold the other end of the armature.
>
> 3. The tool shown in use doesn't clamp the armature. If it were
> clamped, it might be bent or otherwise damaged, and it would be time
> consuming for the workman to line up each slot for cutting.
>
> If the tool in question was used for the same purpose as the tool shown
> in use, I wonder how it was set up.
R.H. wrote:
> Several new photos and a few links can be found on the answer page:
>
>
> http://pzphotosans205-4.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Also, after the last photo there's a link to a combination tool that I
> created a while ago. If I can just sell a few million of these, I could
> retire early and spend more time working on the web site. ;-)
>
>
>
> Rob
The guesses for 1141 don't look plausible to me. A simple lever handle
would be adequate for those uses. I think a D handle is used for
pushing, like a snow shovel, or pulling, like a wagon.
I don't know why you would need a fancy tool to pull pipe or tubing. I
think it's for cable. A long piece could be heavy to drag, wouldn't
bend easily like a rope, and could injure the hand with broken wires.
I think it was built with a clamp, a hinge, and a handle for workers who
had to drag cable, perhaps in a shipyard.
Somebody installing a cable might want to put a ferrule on the end. I
think the toothed blade is to crimp a ferrule with dimpled, longitudinal
corrugations. The adjustment screw for the blade would be for crimping
various diameters. You would clamp the ferrule, set the blade screw,
pull the lever, loosen the clamp, rotate the tool around the ferrule,
make another dimpled corrugation, and so on.
There's a notch by the hinge screw on the near side. I wonder what
that's for.