Compressed Air

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
>>> that would make a good substitute?
>>
>> Why not?
>
>
> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
> of the can that its not just "air").
>
> I can use them outside, but I've dealt with enough reactions (after using
> them
> inside) to make me consider another solution that I can use conveniently
> for the rest of
> my days.
>
> I would like to use it in the computer case and the CPU fan, especially,
> and I
> can think of woodworking applications too.
>
> The $9.99 foot pump looks like a great idea if it would get the job done.
>
Maybe a small fireplace bellows??

"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Kind of hard to tell from your post whether you're cleaning a computer or

> I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a vacuum
hose..
> works great and also collects the crap instead of blowing it all over the
> house..

That reminds me of the time during my computer infancy days when I was
vacuuming up dust around my computer motherboard. The vacuum sucked a chip
right off the motherboard and amid a sizable quantity of cursing and
swearing, I spent the next hour carefully digging garbage out of my vacuum
bag until I found the lost chip.

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
> that would make a good substitute?

Why not?

> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
filling
> up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable attachments.

What do you want to do with your compressed air?

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
> of the can that its not just "air").

> The $9.99 foot pump looks like a great idea if it would get the job done.

If the $10 foot pump doesn't work, then you might consider a CO2 filled
canister which is the same gas you create when you exhale. I saw an ad
recently where they were selling these canisters for truckers and people to
fill flat tires. Yes, it is likely bigger than you're probably thinking
about, but I'm willing to bet one can obtain a smaller version.

The big version was advertised as being able to fill almost 10 truck tires
and you had to go to a place locally to fill it up, but something similar
might be a work around for you to consider.

In article <[email protected]>,
Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Please remove splinters before emailing

> I got mine from Harbor Fright.

Hmmmm!

In article <[email protected]>,
Ed Edelenbos <[email protected]> wrote:
> Murphy was an optimist.

In this town Murphy is an optometrist

(Well, OK, he's an optician)

Bill wrote:
> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>>>
>>>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>>>
>>>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a physician
>>>> or poison control center immediately.
>>>>
>>>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>>>
>>>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>>>
>>>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
>>> general.
>>> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>>>
>>> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild shortness of
>>> breath
>>> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work fast
>>> and
>>> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather throw
>>> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>>>
>>> The previously mentioned refillable cans might work (from HB). They
>>> didn't however,
>>> say whether they could be filled with air. I'll investigate.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102
>
> Can you fill them with a meaningful amount of air only, or do you need to
> use a liquid to absorb the pressure? I'm reminded of my old "water filled
> rocket" (that one pumped up, and then released) that I had when I was a kid.
> It didn't work well with just air. Great fun for $.99 (yes, cents!).
>
>
This ain't a water rocket, it's a spray can. Put water in--water comes
out. Put air in and air comes out. It has a valve stem on the side
just like a tire and you pump it up like a tire.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Murphy was an optimist.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:41:18 GMT, "CC" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
>> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty
>> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>>
>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
>> attachments.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>
>You didn't say why you couldn't use the compressed air tanks,
>I'm guessing you are talking about the quart cans of compressed
>air and the propellant is the problem, If that is so, you could buy
>a 5 gallon air tank that can be filled with air from a compressor and
>then use as needed.
>http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-KT0500-5GAL-Airtight/dp/B0000CBJFA
>
>They are sold by many companies, Google for portable air tank
>CC

They still sell those "refillable" aerosol cans, that you fill with a
compressor?


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>
>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>
>>
>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>
>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>
>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a physician
>> or poison control center immediately.
>>
>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>
>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>
>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>
>
>
> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
> general.
> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>
> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild shortness of
> breath
> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work fast
> and
> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather throw
> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>
> The previously mentioned refillable cans might work (from HB). They
> didn't however,
> say whether they could be filled with air. I'll investigate.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>>>
>>>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>>>
>>>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a
>>>> physician
>>>> or poison control center immediately.
>>>>
>>>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>>>
>>>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>>>
>>>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
>>> general.
>>> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>>>
>>> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild shortness
>>> of breath
>>> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work fast
>>> and
>>> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather throw
>>> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>>>
>>> The previously mentioned refillable cans might work (from HB). They
>>> didn't however,
>>> say whether they could be filled with air. I'll investigate.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102
>
> Can you fill them with a meaningful amount of air only, or do you need to
> use a liquid to absorb the pressure? I'm reminded of my old "water
> filled rocket" (that one pumped up, and then released) that I had when I
> was a kid. It didn't work well with just air. Great fun for $.99 (yes,
> cents!).
>

I don't know.

"Gerald Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:6%[email protected]...
> Bill wrote:
>> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>>>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>>>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>>>>
>>>>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>>>>
>>>>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a
>>>>> physician
>>>>> or poison control center immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
>>>> general.
>>>> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>>>>
>>>> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild shortness
>>>> of breath
>>>> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work
>>>> fast and
>>>> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather throw
>>>> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>>>>
>>>> The previously mentioned refillable cans might work (from HB). They
>>>> didn't however,
>>>> say whether they could be filled with air. I'll investigate.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297
>>>
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102
>>
>> Can you fill them with a meaningful amount of air only, or do you need to
>> use a liquid to absorb the pressure? I'm reminded of my old "water
>> filled rocket" (that one pumped up, and then released) that I had when I
>> was a kid. It didn't work well with just air. Great fun for $.99 (yes,
>> cents!).
> This ain't a water rocket, it's a spray can. Put water in--water comes
> out. Put air in and air comes out. It has a valve stem on the side just
> like a tire and you pump it up like a tire.
>
> --
> Gerald Ross
> Cochran, GA
>
> Murphy was an optimist.
>
>

If it doesn't work, a brush probably would.

Actually as I think it through... water is NOT compressible (or, only
inconsequentially so).

Ed

mac davis wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:41:18 GMT, "CC" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
>>> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty
>>> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>>>
>>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
>>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
>>> attachments.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>
>>You didn't say why you couldn't use the compressed air tanks,
>>I'm guessing you are talking about the quart cans of compressed
>>air and the propellant is the problem, If that is so, you could buy
>>a 5 gallon air tank that can be filled with air from a compressor and
>>then use as needed.
>>http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-KT0500-5GAL-Airtight/dp/B0000CBJFA
>>
>>They are sold by many companies, Google for portable air tank
>>CC
>
> They still sell those "refillable" aerosol cans, that you fill with a
> compressor?
>
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing

I got mine from Harbor Fright.

--
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Cochran, GA

And you thought space was warped....

mac davis wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:14 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
>> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty
>> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>>
>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
>> attachments.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
> Kind of hard to tell from your post whether you're cleaning a
> computer or painting a truck..
> Most folks that use canned air are cleaning stuff like keyboards, is
> that the job?
>
> I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a
> vacuum hose.. works great and also collects the crap instead of
> blowing it all over the house..

I run my keyboard through the dishwasher.

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...

> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
> of the can that its not just "air").
>

Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?

For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.

Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a physician
or poison control center immediately.

Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.

oh yeah... and it's flammable too.

If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty
> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>
> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
> attachments.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill

You didn't say why you couldn't use the compressed air tanks,
I'm guessing you are talking about the quart cans of compressed
air and the propellant is the problem, If that is so, you could buy
a 5 gallon air tank that can be filled with air from a compressor and
then use as needed.
http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-KT0500-5GAL-Airtight/dp/B0000CBJFA

They are sold by many companies, Google for portable air tank
CC

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
> that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty dish washing
> detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>
> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
> attachments.
>
> Any recommendations?

The darkroom department in photo stores sell huge enema bulbs, usually used
to blow off film and lenses. Same idea as a turkey baster, but with a larger
bulb and shorter, stiffer tip. They also sell delicate little ones with a
soft brush at the tip, but I find these to be less useful.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/541904-REG/Giottos_AA1903_Rocket_Air_Blower_.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=search&A=search&Q=&ci=0&sb=ps&sq=desc&sortDrop=Relevance&ac=&bsi=&bhs=t&shs=blower&ci=426&basicSubmit=Submit+Query

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:14 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
>that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty dish washing
>detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>
>The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for filling
>up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable attachments.
>
>Any recommendations?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill
>
One of these puts out quite a forceful stream of air for a brief time
(i.e. each press of the foot). Its cetainly better than a detergent
bottle. It comes with 2 nozzles that restrict the airflow for a higher
velocity.

http://www.target.com/Airhead-Bellows-Foot-Pump/dp/B000FE9CGE/sr=1-1/qid=1232892611/ref=sr_1_1/184-2956600-9063142?ie=UTF8&index=target&rh=k%3Afoot%20pump&page=1

Gerald Ross wrote:
> mac davis wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:41:18 GMT, "CC" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
>>>> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty
>>>> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>>>>
>>>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
>>>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
>>>> attachments.
>>>>
>>>> Any recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>>You didn't say why you couldn't use the compressed air tanks,
>>>I'm guessing you are talking about the quart cans of compressed
>>>air and the propellant is the problem, If that is so, you could buy
>>>a 5 gallon air tank that can be filled with air from a compressor and
>>>then use as needed.
>>>http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-KT0500-5GAL-Airtight/dp/B0000CBJFA
>>>
>>>They are sold by many companies, Google for portable air tank
>>>CC
>>
>> They still sell those "refillable" aerosol cans, that you fill with a
>> compressor?
>>
>>
>> mac
>>
>> Please remove splinters before emailing
>
> I got mine from Harbor Fright.
>
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:08:14 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>>>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
>>>> that would make a good substitute?
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>
>>
>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>
>> I can use them outside, but I've dealt with enough reactions (after using
>> them
>> inside) to make me consider another solution that I can use conveniently
>> for the rest of
>> my days.
>>
>> I would like to use it in the computer case and the CPU fan, especially,
>> and I
>> can think of woodworking applications too.
>>
>> The $9.99 foot pump looks like a great idea if it would get the job done.
>>
>Maybe a small fireplace bellows??
>
>
I use the foot pump to blow dust off the sensor of my dSLR. It puts
out waaaaay more air than the little squeeze bulbs normally
recommended for that job.

-dickm

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Yes, the "propellant" in the cans of compressed air is my problem. The
air
> tanks look like a reasonable possibility (as does a foot pump), perhaps.
Is
> the air that comes out of the tanks always free from "static electricity"?

My guess would be "yes" since compressed air usually results in moisture
permitting static electricity to travel to the metal sides of a compressor.

Anyone?

On Jan 25, 3:24=A0pm, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> >> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. =A0Is there a de=
vice
> >> that would make a good substitute?
>
> > Why not?
>
> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
> of the can that its not just "air").
>
I think that could be because they accidentally packaged some Chinese
farts during manufacture.
Good thing those cans aren't made in Texas, eh?

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:57:28 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:


>> I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a
>> vacuum hose.. works great and also collects the crap instead of
>> blowing it all over the house..
>
>I run my keyboard through the dishwasher.

A friend used to work for Delta Airlines and used to clean keyboards in some
kind of electra-static vat, like you'd use for jewelry..
He said they'd go in there for an hour or so and then be blown dry with air..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Bill wrote:
> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty
> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>
> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
> attachments.
>
> Any recommendations?

What are you looking to do with it? For blowing off dust those little
powered basketball inflators are pretty much worthless--put out about
as much air volume as a hand powered tire pump. On the other hand a
low pressure foot pump will move a surprising amount of dust but won't
give you more than 5 PSI or so of pressure.



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"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
>> that would make a good substitute?
>
> Why not?


Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
of the can that its not just "air").

I can use them outside, but I've dealt with enough reactions (after using
them
inside) to make me consider another solution that I can use conveniently for
the rest of
my days.

I would like to use it in the computer case and the CPU fan, especially, and
I
can think of woodworking applications too.

The $9.99 foot pump looks like a great idea if it would get the job done.

Thanks,
Bill

dadiOH wrote:
> mac davis wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:14 -0500, "Bill"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
>>> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use
>>> empty
>>> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than
>>> that.
>>>
>>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are
>>> for
>>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
>>> attachments.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>>
>> Kind of hard to tell from your post whether you're cleaning a
>> computer or painting a truck..
>> Most folks that use canned air are cleaning stuff like keyboards,
>> is
>> that the job?
>>
>> I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a
>> vacuum hose.. works great and also collects the crap instead of
>> blowing it all over the house..
>
> I run my keyboard through the dishwasher.

While that works for some, it doesn't work for all.

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Ted wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> dadiOH wrote:
>>> mac davis wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:14 -0500, "Bill"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there
>>>>> a
>>>>> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use
>>>>> empty
>>>>> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are
>>>>> for
>>>>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with
>>>>> suitable
>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>> Kind of hard to tell from your post whether you're cleaning a
>>>> computer or painting a truck..
>>>> Most folks that use canned air are cleaning stuff like keyboards,
>>>> is
>>>> that the job?
>>>>
>>>> I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a
>>>> vacuum hose.. works great and also collects the crap instead of
>>>> blowing it all over the house..
>>>
>>> I run my keyboard through the dishwasher.
>>
>> While that works for some, it doesn't work for all.
>>
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>>
>>
> One of the women at work tried to wash her keyboard with ice water.
> Needless to say I had to replace it. I think it was the ice that
> killed it.

I tried it on a nice Unicomp that got a can of soda spilled into it
(not much to lose--it was dead anyway). While the keys don't stick
anymore, a couple of them also don't send codes.

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"CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
>> that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty dish washing
>> detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>>
>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for
>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
>> attachments.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>
> You didn't say why you couldn't use the compressed air tanks,
> I'm guessing you are talking about the quart cans of compressed
> air and the propellant is the problem, If that is so, you could buy
> a 5 gallon air tank that can be filled with air from a compressor and
> then use as needed.
> http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-KT0500-5GAL-Airtight/dp/B0000CBJFA
>
> They are sold by many companies, Google for portable air tank
> CC

Thanks for this, and *all*, of the kind replies to my post!

Yes, the "propellant" in the cans of compressed air is my problem. The air
tanks look like a reasonable possibility (as does a foot pump), perhaps. Is
the air that comes out of the tanks always free from "static electricity"?

Bill

Bill wrote:
> "CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a
>>> device that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use
>>> empty
>>> dish washing detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than
>>> that.
>>>
>>> The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are
>>> for
>>> filling up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable
>>> attachments.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>
>> You didn't say why you couldn't use the compressed air tanks,
>> I'm guessing you are talking about the quart cans of compressed
>> air and the propellant is the problem, If that is so, you could buy
>> a 5 gallon air tank that can be filled with air from a compressor
>> and
>> then use as needed.
>> http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-KT0500-5GAL-Airtight/dp/B0000CBJFA
>>
>> They are sold by many companies, Google for portable air tank
>> CC
>
> Thanks for this, and *all*, of the kind replies to my post!
>
> Yes, the "propellant" in the cans of compressed air is my problem.
> The air tanks look like a reasonable possibility (as does a foot
> pump), perhaps. Is the air that comes out of the tanks always free
> from "static electricity"?

None of it's static free. The higher the flow rate the more static.

Incidentally, pennytech solution--air hose and spare tire. When the
tire is empty pump it up at the gas station.


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"phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>
>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>
>
> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>
> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>
> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a physician
> or poison control center immediately.
>
> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>
> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>
> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.



Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in general.
Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.

If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild shortness of
breath
for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work fast and
get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather throw
a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.

The previously mentioned refillable cans might work (from HB). They didn't
however,
say whether they could be filled with air. I'll investigate.

Thanks,
Bill

"Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>>
>>>
>>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>>
>>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>>
>>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a physician
>>> or poison control center immediately.
>>>
>>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>>
>>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>>
>>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
>> general.
>> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>>
>> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild shortness of
>> breath
>> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work fast
>> and
>> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather throw
>> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>>
>> The previously mentioned refillable cans might work (from HB). They
>> didn't however,
>> say whether they could be filled with air. I'll investigate.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102

Can you fill them with a meaningful amount of air only, or do you need to
use a liquid to absorb the pressure? I'm reminded of my old "water filled
rocket" (that one pumped up, and then released) that I had when I was a kid.
It didn't work well with just air. Great fun for $.99 (yes, cents!).

"Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Gerald Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:6%[email protected]...
>> Bill wrote:
>>> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>>>>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>>>>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a
>>>>>> physician
>>>>>> or poison control center immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
>>>>> general.
>>>>> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild shortness
>>>>> of breath
>>>>> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work
>>>>> fast and
>>>>> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather
>>>>> throw
>>>>> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297
>>>>
>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102
>>>


Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try one of these refillable aerosal cans.

The manual says fillable to 90 psi. Think a normal manual bicycle pump
will provide sufficient pressure?

Thanks,
Bill

"Kerry Montgomery" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gerald Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:6%[email protected]...
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>>>>>>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>>>>>>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a
>>>>>>>> physician
>>>>>>>> or poison control center immediately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
>>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild
>>>>>>> shortness of breath
>>>>>>> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work
>>>>>>> fast and
>>>>>>> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather
>>>>>>> throw
>>>>>>> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102
>>>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try one of these refillable aerosal
>> cans.
>>
>> The manual says fillable to 90 psi. Think a normal manual bicycle pump
>> will provide sufficient pressure?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>
> Bill,
> Depends on the pump - a good floor pump will go past 110 psi without any
> trouble.
> Kerry

That's what I was curious about. Thanks!
Bill

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:42:58 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Kind of hard to tell from your post whether you're cleaning a computer or
>
>> I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a vacuum
>hose..
>> works great and also collects the crap instead of blowing it all over the
>> house..
>
>That reminds me of the time during my computer infancy days when I was
>vacuuming up dust around my computer motherboard. The vacuum sucked a chip
>right off the motherboard and amid a sizable quantity of cursing and
>swearing, I spent the next hour carefully digging garbage out of my vacuum
>bag until I found the lost chip.
>
>

When it comes to motherboards, blow never suck. A shop-type blowgun
can damage electronics, so the $5 can of (clean) compressed air is
recommended. The mini-vac accessory kit is a good idea for keyboards,
remote controls, phones, and printers.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:42:58 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Kind of hard to tell from your post whether you're cleaning a computer or
>
>> I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a vacuum
>hose..
>> works great and also collects the crap instead of blowing it all over the
>> house..
>
>That reminds me of the time during my computer infancy days when I was
>vacuuming up dust around my computer motherboard. The vacuum sucked a chip
>right off the motherboard and amid a sizable quantity of cursing and
>swearing, I spent the next hour carefully digging garbage out of my vacuum
>bag until I found the lost chip.
>
>
I don't even try to vac the CPU with all the dust I get here... not to mention
hair from a dog and too many cats..
It goes outside 2 or 3 times a year and gets blown out with the compressor..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:14 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
>that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty dish washing
>detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>
>The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for filling
>up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable attachments.
>
>Any recommendations?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill
>
Kind of hard to tell from your post whether you're cleaning a computer or
painting a truck..
Most folks that use canned air are cleaning stuff like keyboards, is that the
job?

I use a mini-vac accessory kit from Harbor Freight that goes on a vacuum hose..
works great and also collects the crap instead of blowing it all over the
house..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> "Gerald Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:6%[email protected]...
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because I am allergic/sensitive to something that comes out of
>>>>>>>> those aerosal cans, and many like them (they warn you on the side
>>>>>>>> of the can that its not just "air").
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something like difluoroethane, perhaps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For inhalation: Move person to fresh air.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skin or eyes: Flush with water. If irritation persists, call a
>>>>>>> physician
>>>>>>> or poison control center immediately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ingestion: Do not induce vomiting. Call physician immediately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh yeah... and it's flammable too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so, I'd bet you've misnamed your reaction to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I don't enjoy using the stuff. I'm "chemically sensitive" in
>>>>>> general.
>>>>>> Working with plywood gives me even more grief by comparison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I use the spray cans indoors, I'll just experience a mild
>>>>>> shortness of breath
>>>>>> for 15 or 20 minutes. If I put a fan on, open the window, and work
>>>>>> fast and
>>>>>> get out of the room, I can get away with it. Frankly, I'd rather
>>>>>> throw
>>>>>> a few bucks at the problem and avoid the excitement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65297
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1102
>>>>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try one of these refillable aerosal cans.
>
> The manual says fillable to 90 psi. Think a normal manual bicycle pump
> will provide sufficient pressure?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>

Bill,
Depends on the pump - a good floor pump will go past 110 psi without any
trouble.
Kerry

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:14 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>I cannot use the cans of compressed air in the house. Is there a device
>that would make a good substitute? My dad used to use empty dish washing
>detergeant bottles, but I want more pressure than that.
>
>The small "air compressors" I see online that look like they are for filling
>up basketballs, etc. might work if they came with suitable attachments.
>
>Any recommendations?

Not without knowing the application. Sometimes air from an
inexpensive foot pump is all that's needed.


>
>Thanks,
>Bill
>