aa

18/08/2007 8:59 PM

Best plane for shooting

I need to make a new shooting board and have been wondering about what
plane I should use with it. (I've been using a Veritas #5 with the
old shooting board.) I was thinking that a plane with a skewed blade
like the Lie Nielsen #140 might be nice because it would start the
shaving more gracefully. But then I read the details and notice that
they say it produces a tapered shaving, which seems like a problem.
I've also read that big planes are better for shooting because of
their weight.

So what is the best plane to use for shooting?


This topic has 37 replies

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 11:26 PM

Robatoy took a can of maroon spray paint on August 19, 2007 06:45 pm and
wrote the following:

> On Aug 19, 6:24 pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy took a can of maroon spray paint on August 19, 2007 06:16 pm and
>> wrote the following:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 5:38 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >> > On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>>
>> >> >> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>>
>> >> >> Max
>>
>> >> > Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>>
>> >> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but
>> >> just for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
>> >> Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I
>> >> heard a
>> >> jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they
>> >> also had A-10s there.)
>>
>> >> Max
>>
>> > I agree. The B-2 is really elegant and graceful. The A-10 is
>> > scrappier. Apples and oranges, really. Ballet vs kick-boxing.
>> > The F-104 Starfighter has always been my favourite 'looking' aircraft.
>> > ( Severely limited in terms of reliability, safety and usefulness, it
>> > still looks 'hot'.) I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
>> > so ugly. it's beautiful.
>>
>> So you saw it at the CNE air show?
>>
>> So ugly it was ....beautiful.
>> --
>
> No, not at the CNE.
> I don't think there are any B-58's flying any more. I think they
> stopped flying that mach 2 bomber by the end of the 60's. I saw a few
> in France in the mid 60's and it was a sight and sound to behold. It
> had half the range of a B-52 and cost way more to maintain than the
> B-52.
> The B-58 still looks like it is from the future. Hard to believe it is
> 50+years old.
> http://www.b-58hustler.com/
>
> I have seen the A-10 at Sarnia Airshow. We are close to Selfridge AFB
> in Michigan.

Oh, sorry, I meant the A10 Warthog, I've seen it several times here in TO.
--
Lits Slut #9
Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 11:32 AM

On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>
> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>
> Max

Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 3:04 PM

On Aug 19, 3:46 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:32:13 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>
> Yes, they are! Even if they do take bird strikes from the rear. <G>

That's them air-disc brakes.
>
> For now, we still have a detachment with the Connecticut Air National
> Guard.
>
> Have you ever seen a simulated attack demonstration in person? HO-LY
> Crap! If it had any more low-altitude maneuverability, you'd need a
> helicopter license to fly it.

Yes I have. Amazing loiter time...lots of silly acrobatics. Lots of
wing, gobs of engine and amazing survivability. Ever seen those pics
of that one all shot-up during Gulf 1?

A real kick-ass piece of gear.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 3:16 PM

On Aug 19, 5:38 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>
> >> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>
> >> Max
>
> > Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>
> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but just
> for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
> Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I heard a
> jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they also had
> A-10s there.)
>
> Max

I agree. The B-2 is really elegant and graceful. The A-10 is
scrappier. Apples and oranges, really. Ballet vs kick-boxing.
The F-104 Starfighter has always been my favourite 'looking' aircraft.
( Severely limited in terms of reliability, safety and usefulness, it
still looks 'hot'.) I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
so ugly. it's beautiful.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 3:45 PM

On Aug 19, 6:24 pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy took a can of maroon spray paint on August 19, 2007 06:16 pm and
> wrote the following:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 19, 5:38 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> > On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>
> >> >> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>
> >> >> Max
>
> >> > Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>
> >> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but
> >> just for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
> >> Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I heard a
> >> jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they also
> >> had A-10s there.)
>
> >> Max
>
> > I agree. The B-2 is really elegant and graceful. The A-10 is
> > scrappier. Apples and oranges, really. Ballet vs kick-boxing.
> > The F-104 Starfighter has always been my favourite 'looking' aircraft.
> > ( Severely limited in terms of reliability, safety and usefulness, it
> > still looks 'hot'.) I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
> > so ugly. it's beautiful.
>
> So you saw it at the CNE air show?
>
> So ugly it was ....beautiful.
> --

No, not at the CNE.
I don't think there are any B-58's flying any more. I think they
stopped flying that mach 2 bomber by the end of the 60's. I saw a few
in France in the mid 60's and it was a sight and sound to behold. It
had half the range of a B-52 and cost way more to maintain than the
B-52.
The B-58 still looks like it is from the future. Hard to believe it is
50+years old.
http://www.b-58hustler.com/

I have seen the A-10 at Sarnia Airshow. We are close to Selfridge AFB
in Michigan.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 4:35 PM

On Aug 19, 7:15 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:04:59 -0600, "Max"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Two of my all-time favorites are the P-51 Mustang and the Corsair. It sure
> >was nice to see them overhead in Korea. <G>
>
> You guys just keep bringing up more and more aircraft that I can agree
> are 'purty!
>
There's nasty, ugly, purty, nifty, sleek, beautiful and then there's
the Mosquito.
There are so many ways to like a plane. Does anything sound as cool as
a Merlin at idle?... okay two on a Mosquito...or four on a Lancaster.
(My neighbour across the street flew Lanc.. he has a DFC and still
mows his lawn..at age 90.)

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

21/08/2007 6:16 PM

On Aug 18, 11:59 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I need to make a new shooting board and have been wondering about what
> plane I should use with it. (I've been using a Veritas #5 with the
> old shooting board.) I was thinking that a plane with a skewed blade
> like the Lie Nielsen #140 might be nice because it would start the
> shaving more gracefully. But then I read the details and notice that
> they say it produces a tapered shaving, which seems like a problem.
> I've also read that big planes are better for shooting because of
> their weight.
>
> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?

How about the Lie Nielsen #9 - http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?sku=9

JP

aa

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

23/08/2007 1:01 PM

On Aug 19, 12:44 pm, Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If you are looking for an excuse to go and buy another handplane for a
> project, you have our permission. ;-)
>
> As if you really needed to ask.
>
> Patriarch

I'm not looking for permission. I'm looking for recommendations so I
can decide which one to get. :)

I've never used my block plane with my current shooting board because
it has a much narrower side wall and it would cut away the guide edge
and reduce the support I would get if I went back to a bigger plane.
It seems best to use the same plane--or at least a plane with the same
side wall thickness--so that the guide edge is as big as possible for
the plane. (A few years ago I saw a Knight prototype photo showing a
wooden shooting plane that had a really wide side wall for better
contact.)

But some people say they are using lots of different planes. Does
each plane have a dedicated shooting board? Am I overestimating the
importance of this factor? I kind of feel like the guide edge on my
existing shooting board has worn some (it's baltic birch plywood).
Presumably it would wear faster if it was smaller.

I notice that somebody suggested the Lie Nielsen #9, which is of
course an obvious choice, but at $350 for a plane that isn't really
suitable for other jobs, it seems like a tough sell. (Didn't this
plane used to cost upwards of $400?)

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

23/08/2007 4:35 PM

On Aug 23, 4:18 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> RE: Subject.
>
> Actually, a heliicopter.
>
> "The devil made me do it", as Flip would have said.
>
> Lew

Flip was a trailblazer as he was the first gay black entertainer to
fluff off the stereotypical image that fag-schwartze had avoided all
these years. He just didn't 'act' gay, he was a flaming faggot....not
that that there's anything wrong wiff that, you unnerstand....euwwwww.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

24/08/2007 3:53 PM

On Aug 23, 7:55 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Aug 23, 4:18 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>RE: Subject.
>
> >>Actually, a heliicopter.
>
> >>"The devil made me do it", as Flip would have said.
>
> >>Lew
>
> > Flip was a trailblazer as he was the first gay black entertainer to
> > fluff off the stereotypical image that fag-schwartze had avoided all
> > these years. He just didn't 'act' gay, he was a flaming faggot....not
> > that that there's anything wrong wiff that, you unnerstand....euwwwww.
>
> Flip Wilson had two wives and four children?

So?

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 9:15 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need to make a new shooting board and have been wondering about what
> plane I should use with it. (I've been using a Veritas #5 with the
> old shooting board.) I was thinking that a plane with a skewed blade
> like the Lie Nielsen #140 might be nice because it would start the
> shaving more gracefully. But then I read the details and notice that
> they say it produces a tapered shaving, which seems like a problem.
> I've also read that big planes are better for shooting because of
> their weight.
>
> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>

I use a different plane depending on what I'm shooting... for small moldings
a No 4 is fine. For shooting end grain on wider boards I use a No 5 or No 7.
The No 5 is fine up to about 4" wide and the No 7 for wider. Rule of thumb
for me is the wider and harder the stock the more plane mass I want and the
finer the setting.

For jointing the edge of thin stock with a shooting board I use the No 5 or
No 7 depending on the length of the board. Jointing is jointing...

When I'm doing a lot of shooting of different types the No 7 stays on the
bench. It has the mass and length to handle pretty much any shooting need...
though the heavier No 8 would have been handy a few times. ;~)

John

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 8:11 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Aug 19, 3:46 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:32:13 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>>
>> Yes, they are! Even if they do take bird strikes from the rear. <G>
>
> A real kick-ass piece of gear.

...may be, but the leading edge is so soft you have to try to resharpen it
constantly and it still does a terrible job on end grain and not much better
on long grain. I'll stick to my L-Ns for shooting and recall stall spins in
150s and 170s for kicks.

John

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

23/08/2007 1:18 PM

RE: Subject.

Actually, a heliicopter.

"The devil made me do it", as Flip would have said.

Lew

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

23/08/2007 8:30 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Aug 19, 12:44 pm, Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> If you are looking for an excuse to go and buy another handplane for a
>> project, you have our permission. ;-)
>>
>> As if you really needed to ask.
>>
>> Patriarch
>
> I'm not looking for permission. I'm looking for recommendations so I
> can decide which one to get. :)
>
> I've never used my block plane with my current shooting board because
> it has a much narrower side wall and it would cut away the guide edge
> and reduce the support I would get if I went back to a bigger plane.
> It seems best to use the same plane--or at least a plane with the same
> side wall thickness--so that the guide edge is as big as possible for
> the plane. (A few years ago I saw a Knight prototype photo showing a
> wooden shooting plane that had a really wide side wall for better
> contact.)
>
> But some people say they are using lots of different planes. Does
> each plane have a dedicated shooting board? Am I overestimating the
> importance of this factor? I kind of feel like the guide edge on my
> existing shooting board has worn some (it's baltic birch plywood).
> Presumably it would wear faster if it was smaller.
>
> I notice that somebody suggested the Lie Nielsen #9, which is of
> course an obvious choice, but at $350 for a plane that isn't really
> suitable for other jobs, it seems like a tough sell. (Didn't this
> plane used to cost upwards of $400?)

The No 9 is one of those "would be nice to have" things... I use my L-N No
4, 5 and 7 with the same shooting board with no ill effects.

My boys put a bit of wear on the end of the fence when they were learning
how to shoot miters. I simply glued some walnut on the end and dressed it
with a plane and it was as good as new. A side benefit of making the repair
with walnut was it let the boys know that they were rocking the plane when
they saw the dark wood shaving mixed in with lighter colored wood.

John

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 10:24 PM

Robatoy took a can of maroon spray paint on August 19, 2007 06:16 pm and
wrote the following:

> On Aug 19, 5:38 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>>
>> >> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>>
>> >> Max
>>
>> > Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>>
>> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but
>> just for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
>> Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I heard a
>> jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they also
>> had A-10s there.)
>>
>> Max
>
> I agree. The B-2 is really elegant and graceful. The A-10 is
> scrappier. Apples and oranges, really. Ballet vs kick-boxing.
> The F-104 Starfighter has always been my favourite 'looking' aircraft.
> ( Severely limited in terms of reliability, safety and usefulness, it
> still looks 'hot'.) I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
> so ugly. it's beautiful.

So you saw it at the CNE air show?

So ugly it was ....beautiful.
--
Lits Slut #9
Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

20/08/2007 6:54 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>

P51 Mustang.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MF

"Michael Faurot"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 12:54 PM

[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?

I don't about "best" but what I've been using is a wooden plane I
made in the Krenov style with a Hock 1-3/4" blade and chip breaker.
With my wooden plane, I've made it with a large enough opening on
the top for the wedge and blade that this becomes a nature hand
hold when the plane is sitting on its side. I've also used a #5
jack plane, but it's not as easy to grasp as the wooden plane.


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remove ".invalid".

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 3:46 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:32:13 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)


Yes, they are! Even if they do take bird strikes from the rear. <G>

For now, we still have a detachment with the Connecticut Air National
Guard.

Have you ever seen a simulated attack demonstration in person? HO-LY
Crap! If it had any more low-altitude maneuverability, you'd need a
helicopter license to fly it.

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---------------------------------------------

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 7:07 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:04:09 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Ever seen those pics
>of that one all shot-up during Gulf 1?

Yeah! Ignore the yellow warnings and worry about the reds! <G>

>A real kick-ass piece of gear.

It is...

I know a local who flies busses for Delta for a living and A-10's on
weekends. A former employee of mine was an ANG A-10 crew chief, and
worked both Gulf conflicts. I signed his military leave of absence
papers for Gulf 2.

What I would give for a few hours at the controls of one of THOSE!

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---------------------------------------------

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 7:09 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:16:22 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
>so ugly. it's beautiful.

I never thought it ugly at all, a true classic of the 50's.

---------------------------------------------
** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
---------------------------------------------

Mm

Markem

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

21/08/2007 7:45 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:16:22 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Aug 19, 5:38 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>>
>> >> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>>
>> >> Max
>>
>> > Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>>
>> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but just
>> for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
>> Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I heard a
>> jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they also had
>> A-10s there.)
>>
>> Max
>
>I agree. The B-2 is really elegant and graceful. The A-10 is
>scrappier. Apples and oranges, really. Ballet vs kick-boxing.
>The F-104 Starfighter has always been my favourite 'looking' aircraft.
>( Severely limited in terms of reliability, safety and usefulness, it
>still looks 'hot'.) I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
>so ugly. it's beautiful.

My work was done upon the F-4E, the plane that proved with enough
thrust a rock can fly. (Glide ratio for an F-4 1 to 8 with forward
motion being the one).

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 11:57 AM




>> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?

Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )

Max

Nn

Nova

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

23/08/2007 11:55 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 23, 4:18 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>RE: Subject.
>>
>>Actually, a heliicopter.
>>
>>"The devil made me do it", as Flip would have said.
>>
>>Lew
>
>
> Flip was a trailblazer as he was the first gay black entertainer to
> fluff off the stereotypical image that fag-schwartze had avoided all
> these years. He just didn't 'act' gay, he was a flaming faggot....not
> that that there's anything wrong wiff that, you unnerstand....euwwwww.
>

Flip Wilson had two wives and four children?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933400/bio

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

22/08/2007 11:52 PM

Markem <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> writes:
>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:16:22 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Aug 19, 5:38 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> > On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>>>
>>> >> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>>>
>>> >> Max
>>>
>>> > Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>>>
>>> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but just
>>> for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
>>> Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I heard a
>>> jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they also had
>>> A-10s there.)
>>>
>>> Max
>>
>>I agree. The B-2 is really elegant and graceful. The A-10 is
>>scrappier. Apples and oranges, really. Ballet vs kick-boxing.
>>The F-104 Starfighter has always been my favourite 'looking' aircraft.
>>( Severely limited in terms of reliability, safety and usefulness, it
>>still looks 'hot'.) I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
>>so ugly. it's beautiful.
>
>My work was done upon the F-4E, the plane that proved with enough
>thrust a rock can fly. (Glide ratio for an F-4 1 to 8 with forward
>motion being the one).
>

My vote for the most beautiful thing in the sky is the XB-70.

scott

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 11:44 AM

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I need to make a new shooting board and have been wondering about what
> plane I should use with it. (I've been using a Veritas #5 with the
> old shooting board.) I was thinking that a plane with a skewed blade
> like the Lie Nielsen #140 might be nice because it would start the
> shaving more gracefully. But then I read the details and notice that
> they say it produces a tapered shaving, which seems like a problem.
> I've also read that big planes are better for shooting because of
> their weight.
>
> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>

If you are looking for an excuse to go and buy another handplane for a
project, you have our permission. ;-)

As if you really needed to ask.

Patriarch

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

24/08/2007 9:58 PM

Nova <[email protected]> writes:
>Robatoy wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 4:18 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>RE: Subject.
>>>
>>>Actually, a heliicopter.
>>>
>>>"The devil made me do it", as Flip would have said.
>>>
>>>Lew
>>
>>
>> Flip was a trailblazer as he was the first gay black entertainer to
>> fluff off the stereotypical image that fag-schwartze had avoided all
>> these years. He just didn't 'act' gay, he was a flaming faggot....not
>> that that there's anything wrong wiff that, you unnerstand....euwwwww.
>>
>
>Flip Wilson had two wives and four children?
>
>http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933400/bio
>

And an inflatible. Don't ask.

scott

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 7:08 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:38:39 GMT, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but just
>for looks I prefer the B-2.

Ah... The Batmobile... Very cool in it's own right!

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B A R R Y

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 9:53 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:57:02 -0600, "Max"
>Here they are:
>http://tinyurl.com/2zp3lh


Sweeet...

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"Max"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 5:57 PM


"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:04:59 -0600, "Max"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Two of my all-time favorites are the P-51 Mustang and the Corsair. It
>>sure
>>was nice to see them overhead in Korea. <G>
>
> You guys just keep bringing up more and more aircraft that I can agree
> are 'purty!
>
> The Mustang and the Corsair are gorgeous even for those who didn't see
> them overhead while the bullets flew!
>
> The Corsair has significant history for my home state of Connecticut,
> as many were built here in Stratford. One of the remaining flyable
> Corsairs is hangered at Chester Airport, ~15 minutes from my home.
>
> Baa, baa, baa... <G> Pappy just got a field named after him in
> Washington.
>
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Here they are:
http://tinyurl.com/2zp3lh

Max

gc

ghost

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 10:17 PM



Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
The best aircraft I ever saw or "photo shot" was a UH1C "a Charlie
model" gun ship with a 40 mike mike hog frog on the nose and 2.75
rocket tubes on both sides.
They were ugly fer sure and sounded worse.
But they were sure a great sight when "Charlie's or the NVA's 82 mm
mortars were falling about you.
192nd AHC.
Phan Thiet RVN 1969.
Francis

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:57:02 -0600, "Max"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:04:59 -0600, "Max"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Two of my all-time favorites are the P-51 Mustang and the Corsair. It
>>>sure
>>>was nice to see them overhead in Korea. <G>
>>
>> You guys just keep bringing up more and more aircraft that I can agree
>> are 'purty!
>>
>> The Mustang and the Corsair are gorgeous even for those who didn't see
>> them overhead while the bullets flew!
>>
>> The Corsair has significant history for my home state of Connecticut,
>> as many were built here in Stratford. One of the remaining flyable
>> Corsairs is hangered at Chester Airport, ~15 minutes from my home.
>>
>> Baa, baa, baa... <G> Pappy just got a field named after him in
>> Washington.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
>
>Here they are:
>http://tinyurl.com/2zp3lh
>
>Max
>

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 11:53 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:35:31 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Does anything sound as cool as
>a Merlin at idle?

Yeah...

A Merlin at any speed. <G>

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in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 11:15 PM

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:04:59 -0600, "Max"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>Two of my all-time favorites are the P-51 Mustang and the Corsair. It sure
>was nice to see them overhead in Korea. <G>

You guys just keep bringing up more and more aircraft that I can agree
are 'purty!

The Mustang and the Corsair are gorgeous even for those who didn't see
them overhead while the bullets flew!

The Corsair has significant history for my home state of Connecticut,
as many were built here in Stratford. One of the remaining flyable
Corsairs is hangered at Chester Airport, ~15 minutes from my home.

Baa, baa, baa... <G> Pappy just got a field named after him in
Washington.

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BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

23/08/2007 8:05 PM

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:55:25 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Flip Wilson had two wives and four children?

Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy have also played some great women
characters, and quite likely are not gay.

Then there's Sigfried and Roy, who just came out, according to the
tabloid I saw in my local supermarket Tuesday evening. No kidding,
front page news! <G>

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"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 10:09 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need to make a new shooting board and have been wondering about what
> plane I should use with it. (I've been using a Veritas #5 with the
> old shooting board.) I was thinking that a plane with a skewed blade
> like the Lie Nielsen #140 might be nice because it would start the
> shaving more gracefully. But then I read the details and notice that
> they say it produces a tapered shaving, which seems like a problem.
> I've also read that big planes are better for shooting because of
> their weight.
>
> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>
I use a LV bevel up jack plane, a LN 4 1/2, or a Stanley 5 1/2 with my
shooting boards. I use the LV more than the others. The LV has the 25 degree
iron in it when I use it on the shooting board.
I have the 140, but I don't shoot with it. If I were doing smaller pieces I
might very well use it.

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 5:04 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Aug 19, 5:38 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>>
>> >> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>>
>> >> Max
>>
>> > Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)
>>
>> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but
>> just
>> for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
>> Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I heard a
>> jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they also
>> had
>> A-10s there.)
>>
>> Max
>
> I agree. The B-2 is really elegant and graceful. The A-10 is
> scrappier. Apples and oranges, really. Ballet vs kick-boxing.
> The F-104 Starfighter has always been my favourite 'looking' aircraft.
> ( Severely limited in terms of reliability, safety and usefulness, it
> still looks 'hot'.) I always had a thing for the B-58 Hustler...that's
> so ugly. it's beautiful.

The B-58 isn't ugly. <G> It's........menacing. Isn't the F-104 the
"missile with a man in it"?
Two of my all-time favorites are the P-51 Mustang and the Corsair. It sure
was nice to see them overhead in Korea. <G>

Max

LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

23/08/2007 10:58 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Aug 19, 12:44 pm, Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> If you are looking for an excuse to go and buy another handplane for a
>> project, you have our permission. ;-)
>>
>> As if you really needed to ask.
>>
>> Patriarch
>
> I'm not looking for permission. I'm looking for recommendations so I
> can decide which one to get. :)
>
> snip

I use a LV bevel up jack plane with my shooting boards. I sometimes use a 5
1/2 bailey as well. They both do a nice job, the LV gets the nod though.

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/08/2007 8:59 PM

19/08/2007 9:38 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> So what is the best plane to use for shooting?
>>
>> Probably an F-18 Hornet. (sorry, couldn't resist )
>>
>> Max
>
> Naaa.. A-10 (The most beautiful thing in the sky)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The A-10 is quite a machine but just
for looks I prefer the B-2. When my son was attending college in
Warrensburg, MO and I would visit, I would rush outside anytime I heard a
jet, to see if it was a B-2 from Whiteman AFB. (as I recall they also had
A-10s there.)

Max


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