On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:23:45 -0700, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
>> It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than
>> double our current costs.
>> Joe in Ca.
> ------------------------------------
> Is that the coal or the oil industry doing the calculating?
>
> Lew
I'm curious, what does a kwh cost in CA?
Here (AL) it is around 12 cents tax and all,
Alabama Power is 60% coal, 20% nuke 13% gas and oil, and
the rest is hydro.
basilisk
DGDevin wrote:
> "HeyBub" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> World's largest solar installation to be in California desert.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/23x9xov
>>
>
>> Exactly what one would expect of California.
>
> Yeah, electricity without burning fossil fuels, what will those crazy
> hippies try next? Pollution is meant to be, there's something in the
> Bible somewhere about it, I think I heard that.
Psst. Oil is not used to generate power. Gas certainly is, but it's
non-polluting. True, about half our electrical energy is generated by coal,
but there are only ten coal-fired electrical generators (at five sites) in
California and combined produce less than 1% of the state's electricity.
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>HeyBub wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> "dpb" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
>>>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
>>> exist.
>>>
>>
>> Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses
>> transistors anymore.
>>
>
>Sure they do. Everyone uses transistors - more now than ever. They just
>use them in smaller and denser packaging.
And indiscretely. (proper spelling for this context)
--
We're all here because we're not all there.
"dpb" wrote:
> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
--------------------------------------
Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
exist.
One of the basic functions of gov't IMHO.
Help to provide an environment to develop solutions that the private
sector can't afford to do by themselves.
Lew
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
> It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than
> double our current costs.
> Joe in Ca.
------------------------------------
Is that the coal or the oil industry doing the calculating?
Lew
"dpb" wrote:
> No problem w/ R&D; not so much keen after that. If it'll be cost
> effective, it'll get picked up.
-------------------------
In this case, the technology appears sound.
SFWIW, even Chevron has a piece of the action.
Sun heats oil via parabolic mirrors, oil drives boiler to produce
steam, steam drives turbine, turbine drives generator.
Heating the oil is about all that is new.
In this case gov't provides a kick in the pants to get things started
via tax incentives.
Next thing you know, more geothermal.
Lots of it available here in SoCal.
Lew
"basilisk" wrote:
> I'm curious, what does a kwh cost in CA?
> Here (AL) it is around 12 cents tax and all,
> Alabama Power is 60% coal, 20% nuke 13% gas and oil, and
> the rest is hydro.
-----------------------------------
As a small residential customer, my last invoice from SCE was $20.38
for 215 KWH or about 9.5 cents/KWH.
This was a summer invoice, winter rates are lower.
Lew
HeyBub wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "dpb" wrote:
>>
>>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
>>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
>> --------------------------------------
>> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
>> exist.
>>
>
> Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses
> transistors anymore.
>
Sure they do. Everyone uses transistors - more now than ever. They just
use them in smaller and denser packaging.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Deisel oil would never be used for that...LOL
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Psst. Oil is not used to generate power. Gas certainly is, but it's
non-polluting. True, about half our electrical energy is generated by coal,
but there are only ten coal-fired electrical generators (at five sites) in
California and combined produce less than 1% of the state's electricity.
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>HeyBub wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> "dpb" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
>>>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
>>> exist.
>>>
>>
>> Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses
>> transistors anymore.
>>
>
>Sure they do. Everyone uses transistors - more now than ever. They just
>use them in smaller and denser packaging.
Large discrete transistors also still have their place.
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:42:10 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 30, 12:56 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On Oct 29, 7:42 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>
>> >> She's got rack that makes any good, red-blooded conservative drool.
>> >> ----------------------
>> >> Until she opens her mouth.
>>
>> >Egggggzactly.
>>
>> She's been coalescing the Republicans like no other speaker so far,
>
>
>I just happen to think that the USA is too prominent on this planet
>for a Palin-like creature to use as an experiment.
I agree, surprisingly enough. I like the woman but don't want her as a
politician. She's doing fine where she is now.
>To run a corporation the size of the US government, you need someone
>with genuine abilities, not Palin, not Obama, not W, not Gore, but
>somebody with a military background who knows how things work, and
>doesn't take any bullshit from any weak-assed politicians, has big
>enough balls to have the rest of the planet take notice, and is not
>afraid to prosecute corruption and hang all the lobbyists.
Amen!
>And some prison reform:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMvLOiz_wT4
I absolutely love it! But the one rectangular state ought to cover
'em all.
--
Small opportunities are often the beginning of great enterprises.
-- Demosthenes
On Oct 29, 7:42=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote:
>
> She's got rack that makes any good, red-blooded conservative drool.
> ----------------------
> Until she opens her mouth.
>
> Lew
Egggggzactly.
"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> World's largest solar installation to be in California desert.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/23x9xov
>
> Exactly what one would expect of California.
Yeah, electricity without burning fossil fuels, what will those crazy
hippies try next? Pollution is meant to be, there's something in the Bible
somewhere about it, I think I heard that.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> DGDevin wrote:
> > "HeyBub" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> >> World's largest solar installation to be in California desert.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/23x9xov
> >>
> >
> >> Exactly what one would expect of California.
> >
> > Yeah, electricity without burning fossil fuels, what will those crazy
> > hippies try next? Pollution is meant to be, there's something in the
> > Bible somewhere about it, I think I heard that.
>
> Psst. Oil is not used to generate power.
It isn't? Then what pray tell is the liquid that is burned by power
plants?
While it's not going into many new plant startups, it most assuredly is
being used.
> Gas certainly is, but it's
> non-polluting.
By what standard? By the standards of the AGW advocates it most
assuredly _is_ polluting.
> True, about half our electrical energy is generated by coal,
> but there are only ten coal-fired electrical generators (at five sites) in
> California and combined produce less than 1% of the state's electricity.
However California is run by loons so it doesn't have much relevance.
HeyBub wrote the following:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>> World's largest solar installation to be in California desert.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/23x9xov
>>
>>
>
> Exactly what one would expect of California.
Land of the Eloi.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
It's very compicated. They have a chart with hundreds of rates on it
depending on quantity used, area you live in, time of day, day of the week,
amd season.
Basically, I remember a few years ago, it was 31 cents on peak and 3 cents
off peak / per kWh. Maybe more now.
"basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I'm curious, what does a kwh cost in CA?
Here (AL) it is around 12 cents tax and all,
Alabama Power is 60% coal, 20% nuke 13% gas and oil, and
the rest is hydro.
basilisk
He thinks it's a "nun with a sex change"
"Markem" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Let see the if we do not use transistors, you are not upon the
internet.
Mark
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "dpb" wrote:
>
>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
> --------------------------------------
> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
> exist.
>
Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses transistors
anymore.
I'll give you the internet inasmuch as it was invented by a senator from
Tennessee.
On Oct 30, 12:56=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 29, 7:42=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Robatoy" wrote:
>
> >> She's got rack that makes any good, red-blooded conservative drool.
> >> ----------------------
> >> Until she opens her mouth.
>
> >Egggggzactly.
>
> She's been coalescing the Republicans like no other speaker so far,
I just happen to think that the USA is too prominent on this planet
for a Palin-like creature to use as an experiment.
To run a corporation the size of the US government, you need someone
with genuine abilities, not Palin, not Obama, not W, not Gore, but
somebody with a military background who knows how things work, and
doesn't take any bullshit from any weak-assed politicians, has big
enough balls to have the rest of the planet take notice, and is not
afraid to prosecute corruption and hang all the lobbyists. And some
prison reform:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEMvLOiz_wT4
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:48:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 29, 7:42 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>
>> She's got rack that makes any good, red-blooded conservative drool.
>> ----------------------
>> Until she opens her mouth.
>
>Egggggzactly.
She's been coalescing the Republicans like no other speaker so far,
and I sincerely hope it has made a huge difference which will show at
the polls on Tuesday, Nov 2, 2010.
If not, look for some sort of bloodbath to begin shortly. So many
people are on short fuses, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
>> It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than
>> double our current costs.
>> Joe in Ca.
> ------------------------------------
> Is that the coal or the oil industry doing the calculating?
>
You're overlooking all the "green" jobs that will be created by current
government incentives.
For example, due to government mandates, the last GE incandescent light-bulb
plant in the U.S. is scheduled to be closed, but the loss of jobs will be
more than offset by an increased number of "green" job workers in China as
they produce all our needed CFLs.
Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than double our
current costs.
Joe in Ca.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> World's largest solar installation to be in California desert.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/23x9xov
>
>
>
> Lew
>
>
Next thing you know, mushrooms are growing underneath the panels and then
snakes and other wildlife come and a whole new eco system starts.
What kind of eco impact will these disturbances have on the whole world?...
glaciers starting in Ca?
When will mankind start leaving things as they were supposed to
be...petroleum comsumption and smog?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
World's largest solar installation to be in California desert.
http://tinyurl.com/23x9xov
Lew
On Oct 29, 8:46=A0am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
> > Lew Hodgett wrote:
> >> "dpb" wrote:
>
> >>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
> >>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
> >> exist.
>
> > Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses
> > transistors anymore.
>
> Sure they do. =A0Everyone uses transistors - more now than ever. =A0They =
just
> use them in smaller and denser packaging.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
Dual core Itanium has close to 2 billion of them.
On Oct 29, 11:32=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 29, 8:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> >> Large discrete transistors also still have their place.
>
> >Yup, just look at power amplifiers in sound reinforcement. Forklift
> >battery chargers, Sarah Palin's dildo, the list is endless.
>
> You have SUCH a hardon for our Sarah, Toy. =A0Cracks me up, it does.
>
She's got rack that makes any good, red-blooded conservative drool.
On 27 Oct 2010 21:51:25 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> writes:
>>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:42:01 -0700, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
>>>It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than double our
>>>current costs.
>>
>>That's impossible. Grayout Davis already quintupled it before he left
>>orifice.
>
>You really know not whereof you speak.
OK, so I exaggerated by 3% or so. So sue me. I was kidding about that
asshole who was the governor when I left the state, not the cost of
the greenies. Your AB 32 demands 1/3 of your electricity to be
renewable, so your costs are of your own making. Pfffft!
So you think Gray Davis did NOT force things and cause you
Californicators to pay way more than you were paying by signing long
contracts at exhorbitant prices? You really should pay more
attention, Scott.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gubernatorial_recall_election,_2003
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
On Oct 29, 8:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >HeyBub wrote:
> >> Lew Hodgett wrote:
> >>> "dpb" wrote:
>
> >>>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
> >>>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
> >>> --------------------------------------
> >>> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
> >>> exist.
>
> >> Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses
> >> transistors anymore.
>
> >Sure they do. =A0Everyone uses transistors - more now than ever. =A0They=
just
> >use them in smaller and denser packaging.
>
> Large discrete transistors also still have their place.
Yup, just look at power amplifiers in sound reinforcement. Forklift
battery chargers, Sarah Palin's dildo, the list is endless.
On 10/26/2010 12:56 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "dpb" wrote:
>
>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
> --------------------------------------
> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
> exist.
And, government or not, without folks like Clarence Zener, one of my
college physics professors (and my ex's boss, who was his secretary for
a few years while I was in college).
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
Larry Jaques wrote:
...
> Cool. Sure beats the massive and expensive-to-run natural-gas
> installations ...
...
> builders must break ground by the end of the year to take advantage of
> federal stimulus funds."
...
Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at all
w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
NG, while a sorry choice for many reasons the primary being that it's
too valuable/useful for other purposes than central station generation,
has the distinct advantage (along w/ other conventional generation
technologies) of being both relatively inexpensive _and_ reliable,
neither of which is the above.
And speaking of "massive"; footprint is invisible in comparison to on a
per MW basis.
--
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "dpb" wrote:
>
>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
> --------------------------------------
> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
> exist.
>
> One of the basic functions of gov't IMHO.
...
No problem w/ R&D; not so much keen after that. If it'll be cost
effective, it'll get picked up.
--
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "dpb" wrote:
>
>> No problem w/ R&D; not so much keen after that. If it'll be cost
>> effective, it'll get picked up.
>
> -------------------------
> In this case, the technology appears sound.
...
> In this case gov't provides a kick in the pants to get things started
> via tax incentives.
...
Which means they're playing the gov't, and the technology doesn't pay on
its own merit. Subsidizing more expensive technology for the sake of
alternative agenda.
--
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 23:09:07 -0500, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses transistors
>anymore.
Let see the if we do not use transistors, you are not upon the
internet.
Mark
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:42:01 -0700, <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
>It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than double our
>current costs.
That's impossible. Grayout Davis already quintupled it before he left
orifice.
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:36:52 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>World's largest solar installation to be in California desert.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/23x9xov
Cool. Sure beats the massive and expensive-to-run natural-gas
installations they were putting in around the time I left CA. That was
a couple months after the natural gas pipeline bottleneck was causing
CA trouble. Brilliant they weren't.
"But there may be a reason for the speed of the project's approval:
builders must break ground by the end of the year to take advantage of
federal stimulus funds."
I think they meant to say "break sand". Blythe is out in Fort
Stinkin' Desert.
--
Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right,
but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks.
-- Jimmy Wales
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 29, 11:32 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On Oct 29, 8:56 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> >> Large discrete transistors also still have their place.
>>
>> >Yup, just look at power amplifiers in sound reinforcement. Forklift
>> >battery chargers, Sarah Palin's dildo, the list is endless.
>>
>> You have SUCH a hardon for our Sarah, Toy. Cracks me up, it does.
>
>She's got rack that makes any good, red-blooded conservative drool.
A bit large, but not a bad body at all. She's definitely one of the
nicest looking politicians I've ever seen.
But, no, I meant the misogynist hardon, your continual rag on her.
--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman
On Oct 29, 6:25=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 29, 11:32=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 29, 8:56=A0am, [email protected] wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> >> >> Large discrete transistors also still have their place.
>
> >> >Yup, just look at power amplifiers in sound reinforcement. Forklift
> >> >battery chargers, Sarah Palin's dildo, the list is endless.
>
> >> You have SUCH a hardon for our Sarah, Toy. =A0Cracks me up, it does.
>
> >She's got rack that makes any good, red-blooded conservative drool.
>
> A bit large, but not a bad body at all. =A0She's definitely one of the
> nicest looking politicians I've ever seen.
>
> But, no, I meant the misogynist hardon, your continual rag on her.
>
WTF, I'll take the obvious bait, I have a beer to finish so I have a
little time.....
Nothing misogynist to it. I rag on stupid people who want to run for
office.
The only reason she has any traction at all is because of her school
mistress tits and every republican, latent or otherwise, wants to be
punished by her because they have been naughty.
She's a totally doable dolt. If I wasn't otherwise committed, I'd hit
it, but it'd be highly unlikely I would be discussing Sartre with her.
Your CPU, you are accessing the Internet with, contains millions of
transistors.
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses transistors
anymore.
I'll give you the internet inasmuch as it was invented by a senator from
Tennessee.
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 23:09:07 -0500, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "dpb" wrote:
>>
>>> Gives away the underlying problem -- it wouldn't be being done at
>>> all w/o the stimulus and the other incentives.
>> --------------------------------------
>> Without gov't incentives, the transistor and the internet wouldn't
>> exist.
The airplane was invented without the help of government.
>Huh? The transistor was developed by Bell Labs. But no one uses transistors
>anymore.
Huh? I use transistors every day. BTW, the *bipolar* transistor was invented
by Bell Labs.
>I'll give you the internet inasmuch as it was invented by a senator from
>Tennessee.
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 29, 8:56 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> Large discrete transistors also still have their place.
>
>Yup, just look at power amplifiers in sound reinforcement. Forklift
>battery chargers, Sarah Palin's dildo, the list is endless.
You have SUCH a hardon for our Sarah, Toy. Cracks me up, it does.
--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
>> It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than double
>> our current costs.
>> Joe in Ca.
> ------------------------------------
> Is that the coal or the oil industry doing the calculating?
Every corporation has a CEO and every CEO at a minimum needs to maintain
his level of compensation. So, if your selling less product you need to
increase the unit price in order to maintain. Executive Compensation 101,
straight out of the insurance industry handbook.
Dave in Houston
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> writes:
>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:42:01 -0700, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Yep it is going to be here in Calif. too bad.
>>It is estimated that so called Green Energy is going to more than double our
>>current costs.
>
>That's impossible. Grayout Davis already quintupled it before he left
>orifice.
You really know not whereof you speak.
No TOU billing where you are?
Are PG&E?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
As a small residential customer, my last invoice from SCE was $20.38
for 215 KWH or about 9.5 cents/KWH.
This was a summer invoice, winter rates are lower.
"basilisk" wrote:
> I'm curious, what does a kwh cost in CA?
> Here (AL) it is around 12 cents tax and all,
> Alabama Power is 60% coal, 20% nuke 13% gas and oil, and
> the rest is hydro.
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