Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
Thanks in advance.
Jerry
Hi Jerry,
It's great that you're thinking about this - I also work in the
basement with a lot of power tools. About 10 years ago, I decided
that I have to get used to wearing some hearing protection -
if not simply because both my parents gradually lost some
of their hearing as they aged.
I now wear something when I mow the lawn, use the power
washer or work in the shop. It's a no-brainer and simply
dumb not to - just like eye protection.
What to buy? I think anything is better than nothing. I
sort of set a -25 DB "standard" for myself and it seems
to work fine. If I see a -23 DB on sale, that's fine too.
About $15 at the BORG.
Like anything in audio, every DB costs exponential
$ in either direction.
Lou
In article <cMKsd.196950$HA.12153@attbi_s01>, Maskman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
> a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
> Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry
>
>
Shouldn't have put in the batteries then...
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:33 GMT, Badger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Like the Peltier (sp?) neck band type myself,
>
> Peltor. Keep an eye out on the UK mil-surplus trade for Peltors, but
> get the fat-dome sort, not the useless thin-dome under-the-helmet
> ones.
>
> I used to have a set of Peltier earmuffs, but one ear got roasted and
> the other got frostbite...
I use a pair of Pelter.
Maskman wrote:
> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
> a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
> Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry
Maskman wrote:
> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all
the
> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection.
I have
> a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a
pair of
> Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as
well.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry
Maskman wrote:
> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all
the
> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection.
I have
> a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a
pair of
> Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as
well.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry
Jerry,
I bought a Peltor muff type hearing protector from Harbor Freight in
Little Rock for about half the cost for the same model in wood working
catelogs I've seen. Protection is 29-31 db. I forget the exact rating.
I paid about 15-16 dollars. Much better than other protectors I've had
and comfortable!
Dan
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 03:54:44 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
><snip>
>> I got a couple extras last time. If
>> you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
>> saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
>> work just fine for all 4 tasks.
>
>9mm router bits? Carving tools? Dovetail saw?
>
>Whatcha saying here, Larry? ;-)
Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool. I use
the muffs for range practice. When they had the machine-gun shoot,
wearing both plugs and muffs was jusssssssst right. ;)
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
>> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I
>have
[...snip...]
>
>Consumer Reports recommended, and I tend to agree, that a belt/suspenders
>approach is best - muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
>very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>grosses my wife out, though.
>
>Then any muffs at the BORG will probably suffice.
>
This thread is already dead, but anyway, I put the foam inserts in as
soon as I get into the shop. Then I put the Peltors on when I fire up
the router, or the shop vac, etc. But not the table saw.
>> Jim
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 01:43:12 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
>to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
>better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
>uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.
I prefer the ear plugs and find them more comfortable than the ear-muffs.
Maybe if I found a set of muffs that didn't spring too tight and didn't
flatten my ears like little pancakes, I would have a different opinion. I
buy sets of 100 pairs of plugs and re-use each pair several times -- a box
lasts a long time.
>
>On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
>>time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
>>a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
>>Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
>>Thanks in advance.
>>Jerry
>>
I don't remember the brand, but I use a pair sold at wal-mart in the
sporting goods department for shooting. They are affordable ($10-$15),
comfortable and work very well. I keep mine on a hook attached to my Dewalt
thickness planer, as I wear them EVERY time I use it. I will somethime use
them with other tools, especially if for a prolonged amount of time.
Joe in Denver
my woodworking website:
http://www.the-wildings.com/shop/
"Maskman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:cMKsd.196950$HA.12153@attbi_s01...
> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I
> have a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a
> pair of Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit
> as well.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry
>
>I don't remember the brand, but I use a pair sold at wal-mart in the
>sporting goods department for shooting. They are affordable ($10-$15),
i've got a pair of those and a couple of others the idea being i'll just leave
them at the machine. of course eventually they all end up some place far from
the noise.
bob making sawdust in salem or.
Joe Wilding writes:
>I don't remember the brand, but I use a pair sold at wal-mart in the
>sporting goods department for shooting. They are affordable ($10-$15),
>comfortable and work very well. I keep mine on a hook attached to my Dewalt
>thickness planer, as I wear them EVERY time I use it. I will somethime use
>them with other tools, especially if for a prolonged amount of time.
>
I've got several brands--the most comfortable, thus the most used, are a pair
of AOSafety folding ear muffs. I try to always keep a set of muffs on the
jointer, planer and table saw and near the router table as well. Emphasize the
tools with universal motors, which are the noisiest. Wearing hearing protection
all the time any power tool is in use is probably a good idea.
I've got several types of the "in your ear" kind, and find they do generally
work a little better, but are something of a nuisance to get in and sometimes
to keep in. They are also sometimes harder to FIND, so for two reasons, they're
less likely to be used.
Wish I'd started wearing hearing protection 40 years or so ago. Now, any of the
protectors are a stopgap to try to retain what hearing is left for as long as
possible.
Charlie Self
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."
Edgar Bergen, (Charlie McCarthy)
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:
>Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
>time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
>a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
>Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
>Thanks in advance.
Find the local Harbor Freight store and look for their sales.
A kit with dust mask, goggles, and decent muffs is normally $10,
on sale for $5 quite often. I got a couple extras last time. If
you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
work just fine for all 4 tasks.
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
>very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>grosses my wife out, though.
It grosses ME out. <G>
Barry
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:09:07 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
>
> I prefer the ear plugs and find them more comfortable than the ear-muffs.
> Maybe if I found a set of muffs that didn't spring too tight and didn't
> flatten my ears like little pancakes, I would have a different opinion. I
> buy sets of 100 pairs of plugs and re-use each pair several times -- a box
> lasts a long time.
I'm a target shooter and have always prefered the yellow foam in-the-ear
type. Much better for me since most muffs preclude wearing a brimmed hat and
I find I can hear fine (conversation, etc.) with them in.
_Everyone_ Is different WRT this however. The key is comfort and convenience,
if you don't like them you won't use them. Every high dB encounter causes
damage, even "just one more pass" with the planer without protection.
-Bruce
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:22:00 -0700, Andy Dingley wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 08:09:31 -0800, Larry Jaques
> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.
>
> Black powder in 9mm ? That's either deeply perverse, or you're using
> a nitro powder. Some of use care, y'know?
>
> I suppose you _could_ load a 9mm semi-auto with black powder. But
> you'd have to change calibre for each round; 9mm, 8.5mm, 8mm... You'd
> be firing .22s by the time you got some fouling in there.
9mm revolver load?
-Bruce
Larry Jaques wrote:
> Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.
The first time my eldest son (four years old) saw a gun was in a framing
shop with me, where they were displaying their ability to put an object
in a deep frame. As a result, I was caught completely flat-footed when
he asked me what it was. "A machine for making holes over long
distances" is what I came up with, and he spent a little while thinking
a gun was kinda like a drill press for when you couldn't be bothered to
walk over to whatever you were drilling in.
-BAT
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 16:10:56 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
wrote:
>When you wear a pair of decent muffs, IME you realise that the "mask
>and muff set" ones are not as good as you might think.
Some of them even cut the noise down, but I'd still prefer to skip the
sweaty ears and the head-vice effect.
3M are making some _really_ comfortable earmuffs these days.
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:36:22 -0500, Bob G.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>However in my shop....I have not found I really need to use them...
>
>Bob Griffiths. . .
Are you already damaged? <G>
My FIL dosen't "need" hearing protection either, but we have to repeat
everything we say to him more than once.
Barry
>
>I'm a target shooter and have always prefered the yellow foam in-the-ear
>type. Much better for me since most muffs preclude wearing a brimmed hat and
>I find I can hear fine (conversation, etc.) with them in.
>_Everyone_ Is different WRT this however. The key is comfort and convenience,
>if you don't like them you won't use them. Every high dB encounter causes
>damage, even "just one more pass" with the planer without protection.
>
>-Bruce
===============================================
I am a Skeet and Trap shooter ...and until about 5 years ago I fired
at least 500 rounds each week in competation, and more for practice...
I too prefer plugs over muffs ... (Lee Sonic is the brand I use...)
However in my shop....I have not found I really need to use them...
Bob Griffiths. . .
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:17:37 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
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When you wear a pair of decent muffs, IME you realise that the "mask
and muff set" ones are not as good as you might think. They are not
bad at high frequencies, but even then they are not as good as a
decent set.
>Find the local Harbor Freight store and look for their sales.
>A kit with dust mask, goggles, and decent muffs is normally $10,
>on sale for $5 quite often. I got a couple extras last time. If
>you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
>saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
>work just fine for all 4 tasks.
>
>
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<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
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>I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>grosses my wife out, though.
Hah! Fun ain't it?
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>grosses my wife out, though.
Hey Buck,
Put them in your own ears... <bg>
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:07:15 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 02:15:55 GMT, "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones from
>>Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
>>never put them to any power tool test.
I've never tried the Bose ones, but if you're looking for something a
little less expensive, Koss makes a pair for around $20. The plugs
that come with the headphones (They are in-ear bud style) aren't
really very good as far as NRR goes, but you can get any pair of foam
earplugs, and put them on the phones as a replacement. I've tried a
bunch of different hearing protection, and finally just gave up and
use the regular foam earplugs (without the headphone) these days.
They do make your ears itch a bit for the first couple of months when
they're in, but your ears do get used to them eventually. The biggest
thing you can do to help with the itch is just to clean out your ears
everytime you get out of the shower.
>I've used them in light aircraft, and see no reason why they wouldn't
>work in a shop. I'd be nervous about dropping them.
>
>However, earmuffs the cost of a 13" planer aren't my ideal solution.
><G>
>
>Barry
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> Let's hope you have shown him what a gun was by now. You have taught
> him to respect them and to stay away from them until he's old enough
> to safety-train, I hope?
Well, "by now" is three months later. But, yes, he knows to respect
them, knows they're dangerous, etc. He's been taught the basic NRA
Eddie Eagle routine.
-BAT
"Roy Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:roy-
>
> I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
> use one of these...
>
> http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm
I don't bother with hearing protection for the lawn either. I can hardly
hear the mower when grandson is pushing it.
In the shop I have a pair of the muff type and they work well enough. In
the winter, I hold them in front of the heater for a few seconds before
putting them on.
In article <[email protected]>, novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com wrote:
>Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.
Some years back, SWMBO talked me into going to a meeting of her garden club.
Members and guests were asked to give their names and their favorite gardening
tools. When it came around to me, I introduced myself and said that my
favorite gardening tool was a twelve-gauge pump action rabbit remover. :-)
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Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> I got a couple extras last time. If
> you want more muffling, add foam earplugs, but I run the table
> saw, router, a gas weedeater, and a 9mm with the muffs on. They
> work just fine for all 4 tasks.
9mm router bits? Carving tools? Dovetail saw?
Whatcha saying here, Larry? ;-)
Patriarch
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 08:09:31 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.
Black powder in 9mm ? That's either deeply perverse, or you're using
a nitro powder. Some of use care, y'know?
I suppose you _could_ load a 9mm semi-auto with black powder. But
you'd have to change calibre for each round; 9mm, 8.5mm, 8mm... You'd
be firing .22s by the time you got some fouling in there.
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:33 GMT, Badger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>One day I'll buy some with FM radio built in, maybe...
Howdy,
I will mention that I have a pair, and though it is
certainly pleasant to listen to the radio while I am on my
tractor, the noise reduction aspect is not great.
All the best,
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Ba r r y wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 02:15:55 GMT, "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones
>>from
>>Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
>>never put them to any power tool test.
>
>
> I've used them in light aircraft, and see no reason why they wouldn't
> work in a shop. I'd be nervous about dropping them.
>
> However, earmuffs the cost of a 13" planer aren't my ideal solution.
> <G>
You might find this of interest
<http://www.thetravelinsider.info/roadwarriorcontent/planequietnc6headphones.htm>.
Bose isn't the only game in town.
Woodcraft has an active noise cancelling earmuff with no audio connection
for 30 bucks
<http://www.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=5128&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1049%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CShop%20Safety%20%26%20Accessories&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1110%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CSafety%20%2D%20Ears&Gift=False&mscssid=F1142FF9ED5241F095D266AE2DE68E8E>
In the same price range as Bose, but a pro product, not a consumer product,
and again with no music capability, you find "Wolf Ears",
<http://www.ayoob.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Ayoob&Product_Code=1030A>.
I met someone who had a set of those at a shooting range one time and he
let me try them--they are absolutely superb in that environment--not sure
how they work with power tools though, but suspect they're fine. Note that
they're built into a David Clark Model 27, which is an excellent passive
hearing protector in its own right.
Or if price is no object, David Clark has a good range of electronic noise
cancelling headsets in the $600 range
<http://www.davidclark.com/HeadsetPgs/aviation.shtml#enc>.
>
> Barry
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:22:00 +0000, Andy Dingley
> <[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>
>>On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 08:09:31 -0800, Larry Jaques
>><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.
>>
>>Black powder in 9mm ? That's either deeply perverse, or you're using
>>a nitro powder. Some of use care, y'know?
>
> (Psst, black-colored powder, ya damned literalist.) ;)
Never seen any black-colored nitro powder. It's all gray.
Perhaps you meant a black-colored firearm?
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:42:43 -0500, Roy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
>use one of these...
>
>http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm
I could probably finish my lawn in 10-12 hours with that. <G>
Reel mowers do a nice job, though. They're the standard golf course
machine when ganged together.
Barry
Barry responds:
>>I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
>>use one of these...
>>
>>http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm
>
>
>I could probably finish my lawn in 10-12 hours with that. <G>
>
>Reel mowers do a nice job, though. They're the standard golf course
>machine when ganged together.
Yes, well, we cut something like 1-1/2 acres. No thanks.
Given a choice, I wouldn't cut anything other than the pieces around my shop
and in front of the house, but my wife removes that choice. So it's to Briggs &
Stratton we go.
Charlie Self
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."
Edgar Bergen, (Charlie McCarthy)
On 06 Dec 2004 14:35:16 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>Barry responds:
>
>>>I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
>>>use one of these...
>>>
>>>http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm
>>
>>
>>I could probably finish my lawn in 10-12 hours with that. <G>
>>
>>Reel mowers do a nice job, though. They're the standard golf course
>>machine when ganged together.
>
>Yes, well, we cut something like 1-1/2 acres. No thanks.
>
>Given a choice, I wouldn't cut anything other than the pieces around my shop
>and in front of the house, but my wife removes that choice. So it's to Briggs &
>Stratton we go.
The golf course versions cut 20-30 foot swaths and go 25 MPH, with 10,
12, or more reels hitched together. If the yard is wide open, it
could cut your acre and a half in about 2 minutes!
Barry
Barry responds:
>>Yes, well, we cut something like 1-1/2 acres. No thanks.
>>
>>Given a choice, I wouldn't cut anything other than the pieces around my shop
>>and in front of the house, but my wife removes that choice. So it's to
>Briggs &
>>Stratton we go.
>
>The golf course versions cut 20-30 foot swaths and go 25 MPH, with 10,
>12, or more reels hitched together. If the yard is wide open, it
>could cut your acre and a half in about 2 minutes!
It's not wide open--we planted more than 60 trees about 10-17 years ago, there
are three buildings, and it is not flat and smooth. We could probably bush hog
half an acre at the back, but my wife has butterfly bushes and some shrubs
there which are hard to mark out, so it combines a rotary rider and a rotary
push.
Charlie Self
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."
Edgar Bergen, (Charlie McCarthy)
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:22:00 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 08:09:31 -0800, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.
>
>Black powder in 9mm ? That's either deeply perverse, or you're using
>a nitro powder. Some of use care, y'know?
(Psst, black-colored powder, ya damned literalist.) ;)
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>
> I can imagine. I like the orange bell-shaped plugs and use them
> inverted, wide side in. Since I sleep with them (Damned neighbor
> dogs), that way, my ears don't hurt in the morning. I sleep on my
> side so I found that the wide part made the outer part of my ear
> hurt when squished into a pillow for hours.
>
I never pack a suitcase without them either. I usually end up in a hotel
with a bunch of conventioneers. Once I ended up in a Louisville Hotel which
happened to be hosting the Kentucy State Funeral Director's convention.
Thet're a lively crowd....
In article <[email protected]>,
"Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote:
[snip]
muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
> very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
> grosses my wife out, though.
>
That is called 'doing the Wolfowitz'..
>
>
sandman notes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>[snip]
>
> muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
>> very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>> grosses my wife out, though.
>>
>That is called 'doing the Wolfowitz'..
Is that new or regional or was mine regional? When we were kids, some wiseacres
would wet down a finger and stick it into the ear of the unsuspecting victim at
the desk in front of us. Known as a "wet Willie" at that time.
That was our idea of big time hell raising in school.
Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
I still do that, the wet willie that is.
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>sandman notes:
>
>>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>[snip]
>>
>> muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
>>> very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>>> grosses my wife out, though.
>>>
>>That is called 'doing the Wolfowitz'..
>
>Is that new or regional or was mine regional? When we were kids, some wiseacres
>would wet down a finger and stick it into the ear of the unsuspecting victim at
>the desk in front of us. Known as a "wet Willie" at that time.
>
>That was our idea of big time hell raising in school.
>
>Charlie Self
>"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:33 GMT, Badger <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Like the Peltier (sp?) neck band type myself,
Peltor. Keep an eye out on the UK mil-surplus trade for Peltors, but
get the fat-dome sort, not the useless thin-dome under-the-helmet
ones.
I used to have a set of Peltier earmuffs, but one ear got roasted and
the other got frostbite...
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:05:49 -0500, Kenneth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>>grosses my wife out, though.
>
>Hey Buck,
>
>Put them in your own ears... <bg>
Dang it! How about a Windex Alert notice before posting something like
that? Do you know how hard it is to get iced tea off the monitor and out
of the keyboard?
:-)
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 02:15:55 GMT, "mark"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
>> to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
>> better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
>> uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.
>>
>
>I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones from
>Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
>never put them to any power tool test.
>
Howdy,
I had two pair...
They work when there is a noise at a steady frequency (such
as in an airplane) but they have a very serious flaw:
I was wearing pair #1 on a flight, and fell asleep. I was
awakened to a fierce high frequency whine. It had, of
course, come from the headset.
Eventually, I found that by manipulating the ear cups, I
could make the set produce that noise, and so returned them
to Bose.
They gave me a new pair with no hassle.
Pair #2 (a newer model that allows the earcups to rotate for
packing) did precisely the same thing in it also produced
the same deafening noise.
I returned those and was amazed when the Bose storekeeper
said "Yeah, they all do that..."
In my opinion, the Bose noise-canceling headset is a
dangerous item to wear.
All the best,
--
Kenneth
If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 02:15:55 GMT, "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones from
>Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
>never put them to any power tool test.
I've used them in light aircraft, and see no reason why they wouldn't
work in a shop. I'd be nervous about dropping them.
However, earmuffs the cost of a 13" planer aren't my ideal solution.
<G>
Barry
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:50:28 -0700, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
>9mm revolver load?
Oddly enough I have shot 9mm revolver - some funny Ruger (?) thing
firing dog-cheap Israeli mil-surplus from half-moon clips. They were
too rubbish to shoot reliably in a semi-auto, but they worked in a
revolver.
Black powder revolver is still a mucky business though. After a while
it just stops going round 8-)
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
>time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection.
Don't limit yourself to muffs. Plugs are cheap, work with face
shields and hard hats, and handy for hot, humid days. I keep some
throwaways around just for the days when they are more comfortable and
for visitors.
As for muffs, I like Peltor. I have some 29 and 31 dB NRR models that
are comfy. I haven't seen a good set of muffs in home centers. Check
gun shops, industrial supply houses (Grainger), and real tool stores.
Our local BORGs only carry 21 dB models.
Barry
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:33 GMT, Badger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Like the Peltier (sp?) neck band type myself,
>
>
> Peltor. Keep an eye out on the UK mil-surplus trade for Peltors, but
> get the fat-dome sort, not the useless thin-dome under-the-helmet
> ones.
>
> I used to have a set of Peltier earmuffs, but one ear got roasted and
> the other got frostbite...
>
OOPS, bit of a mis-spelling that, probably crossed wires with a laser
diode cooling project thats in me mind at the moment (work)...
Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:07:25 GMT, "Maskman" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
>time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
>a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
>Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
>Thanks in advance.
>Jerry
>
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:46:56 -0800, "Brett A. Thomas" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Let's hope you have shown him what a gun was by now. You have taught
>> him to respect them and to stay away from them until he's old enough
>> to safety-train, I hope?
>
>Well, "by now" is three months later. But, yes, he knows to respect
>them, knows they're dangerous, etc. He's been taught the basic NRA
>Eddie Eagle routine.
Bueno, Bwana.
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:00:45 -0500, Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I never pack a suitcase without them either. I usually end up in a hotel
> with a bunch of conventioneers. Once I ended up in a Louisville Hotel
> which happened to be hosting the Kentucy State Funeral Director's
> convention. Thet're a lively crowd....
Reminds me of a stay in a hotel that was housing the attendees of a
Shriners convention. Too bad the funeral guys weren't there - while
gathered in the hotel lounge, one of the Shriners dropped dead and fell
backwards off his bar stool. His buddies covered him up with a table
cloth, said a few words in his memory and continued pounding down their
libations. I wasn't thirsty any longer...
-Doug
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:54:07 -0700, Bruce wrote:
> I'm a target shooter and have always prefered the yellow foam in-the-ear
Does shooting require a different i-t-e foam than the Walgreens plugs
have? (I.e., you're only interested in short-duration narrow-band events.)
Back on topic, I go with the Hearos 33 Db plugs. I wear them to movies,
too. Besides the hearing-safety issue, it's just so much more relaxing to
block out the din of power tools.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:44:11 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>Consumer Reports recommended, and I tend to agree, that a belt/suspenders
>approach is best - muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
>very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
>grosses my wife out, though.
I can imagine. I like the orange bell-shaped plugs and use them
inverted, wide side in. Since I sleep with them (Damned neighbor
dogs), that way, my ears don't hurt in the morning. I sleep on my
side so I found that the wide part made the outer part of my ear
hurt when squished into a pillow for hours.
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loutent <[email protected]> wrote:
> I now wear something when I mow the lawn, use the power
> washer or work in the shop.
I don't bother with hearing protection when I mow the lawn. Instead, I
use one of these...
http://www.reelmowersetc.com/standard_Light.htm
> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I
have
> a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair
of
> Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry
>
Consumer Reports recommended, and I tend to agree, that a belt/suspenders
approach is best - muffs and plugs. The Howard Leight Orange plugs work
very well. I find that spitting on them helps insert them in the ear. It
grosses my wife out, though.
Then any muffs at the BORG will probably suffice.
Maskman wrote:
> Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
> time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
> a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
> Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry
Like the Peltier (sp?) neck band type myself, doesn't get in the way of
my face shield or dust mask, just check the attenuation graph is good
for the type of sound your dealing with, some are poor at certain
frequencies.
One day I'll buy some with FM radio built in, maybe...
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:48:32 -0800, "Brett A. Thomas" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Black powder-powered steel-and-composite perp-stopping tool.
>
>The first time my eldest son (four years old) saw a gun was in a framing
>shop with me, where they were displaying their ability to put an object
>in a deep frame. As a result, I was caught completely flat-footed when
>he asked me what it was. "A machine for making holes over long
>distances" is what I came up with, and he spent a little while thinking
>a gun was kinda like a drill press for when you couldn't be bothered to
>walk over to whatever you were drilling in.
Let's hope you have shown him what a gun was by now. You have taught
him to respect them and to stay away from them until he's old enough
to safety-train, I hope?
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"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Get a pair that's comfortable to wear, otherwise you'll be less likely
> to put them on. I have tried in-the-ear types that are supposed to be
> better at reducing dBs, but I find these to be a hassle and somewhat
> uncomfortable. I like the lightweight muff type.
>
I know they're pricey, but has anyone tried the noise reduction phones from
Bose? I've heard my brother's pair (he uses them for traveling) but he's
never put them to any power tool test.
In article <cMKsd.196950$HA.12153@attbi_s01>, "Maskman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Probably discussed here all the time but then again I'm not here all the
>time. Can I get some suggestions for muff type hearing protection. I have
>a small basement workshop crammed with noise making tools. I have a pair of
>Thunder 29's but the headband has broken and thus they don't fit as well.
I use Peltor muff-type protectors. Comfortable and effective. A bit pricy,
but this is not an area where you should be trying to cut costs: there's only
ten or fifteen dollars difference between the Peltors and the cheapo
home-center protectors that block only 2/3 as much sound.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
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