On Feb 13, 6:42=A0pm, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood. Someo=
ne has
> suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction. This will be us=
ed on
> the outside of my house with a good coat of latex paint covering it. Tks.=
Chuck
I had a gorgeous cedar clapboard job ruined because the nails gave up
the ghost. The dark streaks made it an eyesore. If it's painted
you'll _probably_ not have a problem with galvanized nails, but I'd
use stainless anyway. It's cheap insurance.
R
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:28:21 GMT, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
>HeyBub wrote:
>> Chuck wrote:
>>> Thank you. The siding that I am replacing has galvanized nails and I
>>> see no sign of stain. The siding was installed in 1972. I will go
>>> with galvanized. Now to see if I can use a nail gun.
>>
>> CAUTION: There're two kinds of galvanized: dipped and plated. Make sure you
>> get the dipped.
>>
>>
>Thanks. I decided to go with SS screws. Thanks for the help. Chuck
Good choice. The SS screws won't rust like the galvanized. SS won't
streak wood like galvanized.
On Feb 13, 3:42=A0pm, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood. Someo=
ne has
> suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction. This will be us=
ed on
> the outside of my house with a good coat of latex paint covering it. Tks.=
Chuck
Hot-dip galvanized nails should work ok, provided that they have a
good, thick coating. The problem I've seen in the past few years is
that the coating is not nearly as thick as in the past, and it can
crack and flake when being pounded in to the wood. Of course, a path
for water into the steel will lead to bleeding.
When I installed my cedar deck, all of the reputable advice (e.g., not
from the fastener manufacturers) recommended stainless steel fasteners
for cedar, so I swallowed hard and bought stainless. Still looks
great! Except now I kick myself for not swallowing a bit harder and
buying ipe decking.
HeyBub wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
>> Thank you. The siding that I am replacing has galvanized nails and I
>> see no sign of stain. The siding was installed in 1972. I will go
>> with galvanized. Now to see if I can use a nail gun.
>
> CAUTION: There're two kinds of galvanized: dipped and plated. Make sure you
> get the dipped.
>
>
Thanks. I decided to go with SS screws. Thanks for the help. Chuck
Nova wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
>> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood.
>> Someone has suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction.
>> This will be used on the outside of my house with a good coat of latex
>> paint covering it. Tks. Chuck
>
> Hot dipped galvanized nails should be okay. See:
>
> http://www.soundcedar.com/lumber/siding/installation/nails.php
>
Thank you. The siding that I am replacing has galvanized nails and I see no sign
of stain. The siding was installed in 1972. I will go with galvanized. Now to
see if I can use a nail gun.
Chuck wrote:
> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood.
> Someone has suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction.
> This will be used on the outside of my house with a good coat of latex
> paint covering it. Tks. Chuck
Hot dipped galvanized nails should be okay. See:
http://www.soundcedar.com/lumber/siding/installation/nails.php
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood. Someone has
> suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction. This will be used on
> the outside of my house with a good coat of latex paint covering it. Tks. Chuck
>
Yes, sounds right. When we bought cedar to clad my folks' retirement
home, the supplier warned us against galv and suggested bronze or
stainless nails. We used the bronze ... just have to be careful to hit
them square on (which is why we didn't let my father nail any). He's an
old sailor with two left hands and 10 thumbs.
-P.
You can buy screws for cedar they are brown anodized coated
http://www.sportcompactcar.info/4084364/987676/Phillips-Ii-Cedar-Screws-User-Review-44763.html
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood.
> Someone has suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction. This
> will be used on the outside of my house with a good coat of latex paint
> covering it. Tks. Chuck
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:42:18 GMT, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
>Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood. Someone has
>suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction. This will be used on
>the outside of my house with a good coat of latex paint covering it. Tks. Chuck
Well, McFeeley's is in the business of selling stainless steel nails,
so they might be a bit overselling, but here's a link that claims hot
dip galvanized nails aren't the best option with Western Red cedar:
http://www.mcfeelys.com/stainless-nails
On the other hand, the Cedar Shake & Shingle Bureau recommends
stainless, hot-dipped zinc, or aluminum nails.
http://www.cedarbureau.org/installation/wall_manual/page05.htm
Suffice to say, the coating on a galvanized nail might fail and might
stain, while stainless will not.
If you go with galvanized, get double hot-dipped nails, which should
eliminate defects in the coating that will stain.
>> Jim
Nova wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
>> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood.
>> Someone has suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction.
>> This will be used on the outside of my house with a good coat of
>> latex paint covering it. Tks. Chuck
>=20
> Hot dipped galvanized nails should be okay. See:
>=20
> http://www.soundcedar.com/lumber/siding/installation/nails.php
If you do not want the nails to "bleed" all over the holes use =
stainless.
The reaction is to the stuff in cedar that makes it the wood resist =
rotting.
Does not matter if the nails are painted over they will rust in short =
order.
Mine did and I switched to stainless - no more rot and no more bleeding
P D Q
Gerald Ross wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
>> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood.
>> Someone has suggested that I will get some sort of chemical
>> reaction. This will be used on the outside of my house with a good
>> coat of latex paint covering it. Tks. Chuck=20
>=20
> My 30 year old cedar sided house has spiral galvanized nails, acrylic
> "stain" and nary a rust spot. Maybe those old nails were better.
Does "They don't make them like they used to." soud familiar?? <G>
P D Q
PDQ wrote:
> Gerald Ross wrote:
>> Chuck wrote:
>>> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood.
>>> Someone has suggested that I will get some sort of chemical
>>> reaction. This will be used on the outside of my house with a good
>>> coat of latex paint covering it. Tks. Chuck
>> My 30 year old cedar sided house has spiral galvanized nails, acrylic
>> "stain" and nary a rust spot. Maybe those old nails were better.
>
> Does "They don't make them like they used to." soud familiar?? <G>
>
> P D Q
OK I am gonna use SS. Screws. Square drive and about 2 1/2" long,
Thanks to all for the input. Really appreciate it. Chuck
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood.
> Someone has suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction. This
> will be used on the outside of my house with a good coat of latex paint
> covering it. Tks. Chuck
I have not heard that "you" can't". ;~) I build more fences than the
average wood worker. I build them with cedar and galvanized ring shank
nails, in a nail gun. You will get some discoloration, eventually, if left
exposed to the elements.
IF you are also using any "modern pressure treated wood" be sure and get
the ACQ specified galvanized nails or they will react with the PT wood and
fail prematurely.
Chuck wrote:
> Has anyone heard that I can't use galvanized nails with cedar wood. Someone has
> suggested that I will get some sort of chemical reaction. This will be used on
> the outside of my house with a good coat of latex paint covering it. Tks. Chuck
My 30 year old cedar sided house has spiral galvanized nails, acrylic
"stain" and nary a rust spot. Maybe those old nails were better.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
All stressed out, and no one to choke...