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"Lew Hodgett"

05/06/2008 3:29 AM

O/T: We've Come a LONG Way

Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a
people.

A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the
USA.

How many would have though it possible even 3 years ago?

I suggest not many.

I'm old enough to remember when Eisenhower sent the troops into Little
Rock.

I'm old enough to remember telling my daughter (Obama's age) that if
she got grades twice as good as her brothers, worked twice as hard as
they did, she would probably earn half as much money.

Fair? Hell no, but the "glass ceiling" existed in corporate America in
those days.

Things aren't perfect, but they are improving.

Regardless of how the election shakes out this November, we as a
people will have demonstrated just how much tolerance we have learned,
and how it has made us better for it.

Lew


This topic has 90 replies

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Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 12:51 PM

On Jun 5, 1:20=A0pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:50:18 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
> >> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
> >> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
> >> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
> >> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
> >> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
> >> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>
> > Tim, while I don't often agree with you, I do generally enjoy reading yo=
ur
> > postings. =A0But I think you've gone overboard this time. =A0You seem to=
be
> > excessively vitriolic and bitter. =A0Get a grip!
>
> I am neither vitriolic or bitter. =A0But neither will I sit by quietly
> while Obama proposes (as he has in the past here in IL) to remove my
> money, my guns, and thus, my liberty. =A0He is a really bad candidate
> who should deservedly lose in a big way.
>

Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.
And owning a gun makes you free!
TRUE freedom would mean I am free without needing a gun. That concept
might be a bit difficult for you...I understand.. here, have a banana.

You call me a bigot, but the truth is, I dislike assholes. And, using
you as an example, they come in all colours and races.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 6:53 AM

On Jun 5, 9:40=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:50=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> [snipped most of old-hat post]
>
> The 'head of state' in almost all cases, is someone who the money-
> lenders 'allow' to be their spokesman and figure head. Bush was such a
> puppet. There have been many more before him and there will a new one
> this coming November. I refer to the true power as money-lenders
> because I like the euphemism and it encapsulates both the greed and a
> bit of historical reference to what happened to them when Jesus went
> postal on them and overturned their tables.
>
> What you got here, is the failure for the peoples to understand that
> nothing has changed. The power is still within the castle walls and
> all we have accomplished, is the change of the names of the burden/tax
> that we as 'serfs' are having extorted from us.
> "Give your money to us, you'll feel safer because we can obliterate
> that bad guy over that hill there.....oh, there isn't one... we'll
> bloody well MAKE/MAKE-BIGGER-THAN-WHAT-HE-REALLY-IS an enemy." BOOGA
> BOOGA... come here, give me half of what you've got and you'll sleep
> better at night."
>
> And when we look up at that castle wall, knowing the privileged ones
> are having caviar, we don't mind, they're keeping us safe.
>
> They're screwing us, and we like it. We like it so much, that we drape
> ourselves in our flags, being a union Jack, Maple Leaf or Stars and
> Stripes.
>
> And when we look up at the castle walls, and word comes down that
> 'those people' on the other side of the forest have something the
> Knights/our protectors want/need, we're happy to get it for them,
> because they love us and keep us safe.
>
> We have been had, people, We've been bullshat. We've been
> Bilderbuggered. [sic as it is]
>
> Soooooo...
> Tim said:
>
> > We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>
> Whatcha gonna do about it Tim? Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> > P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. =A0Honesty, integrity, beauty,
> > =A0 =A0 =A0and truth are the goals for grown ups. =A0Tolerance is for pe=
ople
> > =A0 =A0 =A0who dread being held to account for their actions and views a=
nd
> > =A0 =A0 =A0resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure.
>
> Just like you tolerate being enslaved.
>
> r

WAAAIIITT-A-SECONNNND... did I just get sucked into this thread...my
bad. oopsies.

hR

[email protected] (Ross Hebeisen)

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 5:20 AM

Your point is take'n Lew and I like to look for something good in things
also, however as far as what has really been accomplished from the state
we are now in Porky Pig could have been a valid contender, now that
would have been different. sorry Lew.
ross

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 9:17 AM

On Jun 6, 10:58=A0am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote in message
>
> On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" wrote:
>
> > Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people togeth=
er
> > on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess
> not.....
> > The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>
> > If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> > =A0http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.ht=
ml
>
> I've always been a sucker for factory air ...
>


I love a good cup of coffee, except when it blows out of my nose onto
my keyboard.
You magnificent bastard!

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 12:02 PM

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:36:12 -0700 (PDT), Charlie Self
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jun 5, 1:17 pm, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> > "Leon" wrote:
>>
>> >> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>>
>> > Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
>> > where does that leave the republicans this time around?
>>
>> Does this mean he'll need a new pair of shoes?
>
>Just half-soles.


I heard that the Senator from Arizona has come up with his new
campaign slogan:



"In Your Heart You Know He's RIGHT."



...wait a minute...





Regards,

Tom

Thos.J.Watson - Cabinetmaker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
www.home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 5:19 PM

Robatoy wrote:

> On Jun 8, 12:37 pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>> > On Jun 8, 11:43 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Robatoy wrote:
>> >> > On Jun 8, 12:31 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>>
>> >> > Do you have a license to use "eh"?
>>
>> >> > Papers, please.....
>>
>> >> I was born with one, eh.  But it may have lapsed, eh.
>> >> However, I once lived in C-eh-n-eh-d-eh ...
>>
>> >> --
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> - Tim Daneliuk     [email protected]
>> >> PGP Key:        http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>>
>> > Alllright, limited use license granted.
>>
>> I think we still need to see the paperwork, eh?
>> ;-)
>> --
>> Froz...
>
> Limited use of 'eh' is not the same as being allowed to wear the Hoser
> Badge. Right?
>
> btw.. you watching F1 Montreal this afternoon?
>
> Go LEWIS!!

No, saw a thing on Global News friday night, all them poor little gophers,
crossing the track and nearly getting killed.
;-)
--
Froz...

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 4:37 PM

Robatoy wrote:

> On Jun 8, 11:43 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>> > On Jun 8, 12:31 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>>
>> > Do you have a license to use "eh"?
>>
>> > Papers, please.....
>>
>> I was born with one, eh.  But it may have lapsed, eh.
>> However, I once lived in C-eh-n-eh-d-eh ...
>>
>> --
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> - Tim Daneliuk     [email protected]
>> PGP Key:        http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> Alllright, limited use license granted.

I think we still need to see the paperwork, eh?
;-)
--
Froz...

nn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 10:52 PM

On Jun 5, 3:52 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:


> As always, It got me nowhere. Fun thought.
> Can we talk about all those summer dresses now?

OK.

It is around 100 every day here, hot for this time of year even for
South Texas.

But since you brought it up.

I am remembering a fond time in my life when the girls were wearing
(late 60's ? 70's for sure) those gauzy cotton sun dresses that came
about to their knees. You remember, the kind that was loose, kinda
blew around in a light breeze.

http://www.ranchandcoast.com/july2006/images/sparrow.jpg

http://www.jackiesboutique.com/Coverups_s/2.htm

You didn't need to hang it all out in those days, and it really wasn't
needed. Those were the days when the girls popped on the dress, some
cute footwear, and sans underwear, we took off.

It may be my imagination, but it seems women were a lot nicer in those
days. And like I was at that time, everything was where God intended
it to be, not where it is now. For them, there was no need for
support...

Sigh.

Screw politics.

Give me cute girl in a sun dress and you guys can have all the rest.

Robert

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 12:57 PM

On Jun 6, 12:16=A0pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people toget=
her
> >> on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess not.=
....
> >> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>
> > If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> >http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html
>
> Hmmmm. =A0Trying to picture that. =A0How are your legs? =A0Pics on ABPW?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 shhllluuuurrrrrrrp,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 jo4hn

I was talking about the dress, not the girl. I think that is a nice
dress. The girl? No big deal. I have been rejected by better-looking
wimmin than that.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 10:30 PM

On Jun 8, 12:31=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>

Do you have a license to use "eh"?

Papers, please.....

hR

[email protected] (Ross Hebeisen)

in reply to Robatoy on 07/06/2008 10:30 PM

07/06/2008 11:36 PM

I have not license to use eh.... but will loony's in my shoes pass? in
my penny lofers that is.
hit me with a blue please
ross

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 8:52 AM

On Jun 8, 11:43=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Jun 8, 12:31 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>
> > Do you have a license to use "eh"?
>
> > Papers, please.....
>
> I was born with one, eh. =A0But it may have lapsed, eh.
> However, I once lived in C-eh-n-eh-d-eh ...
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------=
- -
> Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/

Alllright, limited use license granted.

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 1:29 PM

On Jun 5, 3:35 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Jun 5, 12:50 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> SNIP of vitriolic spew
>
> > P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools.
>
> But... without "tolerance" how could anyone be expected to tolerate
> you vomiting up all that paranoid, demented shit from deep inside your
> bowels?
>
> Nope. We need tolerance.
>
> Time to adjust your tin hat and make sure the meds you are taking are
> actually yours.
>
> Robert

Yeah. Astonishing. Tim proved what you posited in your in the very
next post.

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 10:43 AM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Jun 8, 12:31 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>>
>
> Do you have a license to use "eh"?
>
> Papers, please.....

I was born with one, eh. But it may have lapsed, eh.
However, I once lived in C-eh-n-eh-d-eh ...

--
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Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 1:46 PM

On Jun 5, 4:37=A0pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Larry Blanchard wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:50:18 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> >>>> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
> >>>> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
> >>>> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
> >>>> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
> >>>> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
> >>>> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
> >>> Tim, while I don't often agree with you, I do generally enjoy reading =
your
> >>> postings. =A0But I think you've gone overboard this time. =A0You seem =
to be
> >>> excessively vitriolic and bitter. =A0Get a grip!
> >> I am neither vitriolic or bitter. =A0But neither will I sit by quietly
> >> while Obama proposes (as he has in the past here in IL) to remove my
> >> money, my guns, and thus, my liberty. =A0He is a really bad candidate
> >> who should deservedly lose in a big way.
>
> > Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.
>
> Rednecks typically only wear wool when it's cold. =A0It is now summer
> in North America and no wool is required where I live. =A0Also, it's not
> my fault that my Eastern European forebears bestowed me with the DNA
> for skin that gets very red when in the presence of the sun for more
> than 15 milliseconds.
>
> > And owning a gun makes you free!
>
> No. =A0Owning a gun *keeps* you free. =A0*God* made me free, and my predec=
essors
> in this country saw to it that I get to remain so ... oh, and they used gu=
ns
> too.
>
> > TRUE freedom would mean I am free without needing a gun. That concept
> > might be a bit difficult for you...I understand.. here, have a banana.
>
> > You call me a bigot, but the truth is, I dislike assholes. And, using
> > you as an example, they come in all colours and races.
>
> Behold the enlightened defender of truth.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------=
- -
> Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/

Holy shit!! He GETS it TOO!!

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 6:51 AM

On Jun 5, 8:44=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Ross Hebeisen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Your point is take'n Lew and I like to look for something good in things=

> > also, however as far as what has really been accomplished from the state=

> > we are now in Porky Pig could have been a valid contender, now that
> > would have been different. sorry Lew.
> > ross
>
> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.

What difference would it make? The whole electoral process is a sham.
Rife with electronic corruption.
Voter's lists are being manipulated, like in 2000 Florida where people
were turned away because they had the same name as some criminals...
those alone would have changed the outcome of the election. Same shit
in 2004. ... and there WILL be shit in 2008 'IF' the election is
close. Obama only stands a chance if it is a land-slide. Close won't
cut it...'within the margin of manipulation'.

A candidate can be honest, what WILL screw him up is when he resigns
himself to the fact that he allows others to make decision for him,
and as the future POTUS, he'll have to trust those around him.

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 12:20 PM

Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:50:18 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
>
>> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
>> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
>> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
>> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
>> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
>> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>
> Tim, while I don't often agree with you, I do generally enjoy reading your
> postings. But I think you've gone overboard this time. You seem to be
> excessively vitriolic and bitter. Get a grip!
>
>
>

I am neither vitriolic or bitter. But neither will I sit by quietly
while Obama proposes (as he has in the past here in IL) to remove my
money, my guns, and thus, my liberty. He is a really bad candidate
who should deservedly lose in a big way.

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Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/

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Fred the Red Shirt

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 8:08 PM

On Jun 6, 2:35 am, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> > "Leon" wrote:
>
> >> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>
> > Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
> > where does that leave the republicans this time around?
>
> > Lew
>
> I've resisted this thread until this one.
>
> What planet do you live on, or what are you smoking? Maverick John McCain
> sold the bottom of his shoe to the far right fringe of the party? You have
> absolutely got to be kidding! John McCain -- the guy who is buying into
> all this global warming BS? The guy who abrogated the first amendment with
> his McCain/Feingold campaign finance bill? The guy who sponsored the
> McCain/Kennedy amnesty for illegal aliens bill? The candidate that all
> constitutional constructionist conservative pundits are having significant
> problems with being able to recommend, let alone support? The guy who has
> crossed the aisle to rub elbows with the dems more than his own party? The
> guy who helped form the gang of 14 that destroyed the ability of the
> Republican majority to get the Senate to approve judicial nominees when the
> dems used the filibuster in a way that was unprecedented? The John McCain
> who opposed the tax cuts? The John McCain who, in the past several days has
> spent time praising Obama and Hillary and pilloring the President (a member
> of his own party)? That John McCain, far right? Just what do you see
> as "far right" about Maverick John McCain, or just how far left are you?

As I thought. Pat Robertson STILL has not endorsed him.

I think he means the John McCain who decided he really doesn't
tolerate gays after, promised to appoint a judge to the USSC
who will overturn Roe v Wade, and opposes a GI bill as good
as the one his fellow Vietnam Veterans enjoyed because the
President is concerned that it will inhibit retention.

HTF could it inhibit retention? 'Stop/Loss' assures retention.


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FF

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 1:52 PM

On Jun 5, 1:48=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Okay... I surrender. I had to have ONE more funrun at this shit.

As always, It got me nowhere. Fun thought.
Can we talk about all those summer dresses now?

Di

"Dave in Houston"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 8:18 AM


"Tim Daneliuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?

Yeah; what is this, right-wing talk-radio?

Dave in Houston

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 9:57 AM

On Jun 8, 12:37=A0pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Jun 8, 11:43=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Robatoy wrote:
> >> > On Jun 8, 12:31 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>
> >> > Do you have a license to use "eh"?
>
> >> > Papers, please.....
>
> >> I was born with one, eh. =A0But it may have lapsed, eh.
> >> However, I once lived in C-eh-n-eh-d-eh ...
>
> >> --
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
----
> >> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> >> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> > Alllright, limited use license granted.
>
> I think we still need to see the paperwork, eh?
> ;-)
> --
> Froz...

Limited use of 'eh' is not the same as being allowed to wear the Hoser
Badge. Right?

btw.. you watching F1 Montreal this afternoon?

Go LEWIS!!

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 1:33 PM

On Jun 5, 8:44 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Ross Hebeisen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Your point is take'n Lew and I like to look for something good in things
> > also, however as far as what has really been accomplished from the state
> > we are now in Porky Pig could have been a valid contender, now that
> > would have been different. sorry Lew.
> > ross
>
> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.

That simply cannot happen when it costs nearly a billion dollars to
get elected.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 1:09 PM

On Jun 6, 4:01=A0pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:14:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> >http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html
>
> Is that really your color? =A0<G>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> **http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html=A0**
> ---------------------------------------------

I'd have to chose another rouge and lipstick..but suuure

ee

evodawg

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 3:09 PM

Robatoy wrote:

> On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people
>> together on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I
>> guess not..... The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>>
> If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html

If this one was a little shorter I would like it even MORE! Hoping the Mini
Skirt comes back in style and stays in style.
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 11:31 PM

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
> On Jun 7, 1:15 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 5, 7:51 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.
>>> He is NOT a redneck.
>> ...
>>
>> Just for clarification: Was that a compliment, observation, or
>> slap?
>>
>
> I was defending rednecks.
>
> --
>
> FF
>

In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?

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Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 7:14 AM

On Jun 6, 9:17=A0am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people together=

> on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess not....=
.
> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>
If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 1:36 PM

On Jun 5, 1:17 pm, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
> > "Leon" wrote:
>
> >> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>
> > Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
> > where does that leave the republicans this time around?
>
> Does this mean he'll need a new pair of shoes?

Just half-soles.

Ft

Fred the Red Shirt

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 7:58 PM

On Jun 5, 7:51 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> ...
>
> Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.

He is NOT a redneck.

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nn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

04/06/2008 10:48 PM

On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a
> people.

I think we will see how far we have come when we see what the winner
of the election after taking office. Just because folks are of a
certain persuasion doesn't mean they don't have their own agenda.

If it is McCain, will he have an age centered agenda?

If Obama, will he have a racially centered agenda?

Only time will tell.

I am not so sure that we have all jumped on the Rainbow Coalition's
bandwagon as much as we are pretty sick of the same old crap we have
had for the last 16 years.

> Regardless of how the election shakes out this November, we as a
> people will have demonstrated just how much tolerance we have learned,
> and how it has made us better for it.

We'll see about the tolerance level during the campaign. I think more
fur will be flying soon, and the temptation to go for blood will be
too much for the candidates to resist.

Robert

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 4:56 PM

Flash wrote:
>> "McCain has sold his sole to the far right..."
>
>
> And did he sell his halibut to the extremist fish nwhackos on other side?
>
> Flash


Well, at least he now has a propoise for living...

>
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:C4V1k.24032$0O1.23379@trnddc07...
>> "Leon" wrote:
>>
>>> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>> Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party, where
>> does that leave the republicans this time around?
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
>


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Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 6:43 AM

On Jun 5, 8:20=A0am, [email protected] (Ross Hebeisen) wrote:
> Your point is take'n Lew and I like to look for something good in things
> also, however as far as what has really been accomplished from the state
> we are now in Porky Pig could have been a valid contender, now that
> would have been different. sorry Lew.
> ross

I am having a vision of President Porky Pig:

"bdip bdip bdip bdip that ALL FOLKS!!!!" as he slaps this big red
button with a picture of a mushroom on it...

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 11:37 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message I'm with you! A
beautiful woman looks better in the right clothes than
when she's popping out all over.
Take this dress, for instance. Completely hides everything, so you
have no clue if there's anything nice underneath all that material.
http://urbanupdater.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/smockdress.jpg

If you're even contemplating that there might be nothing underneath that
dress, either your eyesight is on its last legs or you've lost the lenses
for your glasses. There's plenty body visible to accurately know exactly
what's not visible.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 6:09 AM

On Jun 6, 1:52=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Give me cute girl in a sun dress and you guys can have all the rest.
>
> Robert

I'm with you! A beautiful woman looks better in the right clothes than
when she's popping out all over.
Take this dress, for instance. Completely hides everything, so you
have no clue if there's anything nice underneath all that material.
http://urbanupdater.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/smockdress.jpg
<g>
Now... back to work ya'll!!

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 6:40 AM

On Jun 5, 1:50=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
[snipped most of old-hat post]

The 'head of state' in almost all cases, is someone who the money-
lenders 'allow' to be their spokesman and figure head. Bush was such a
puppet. There have been many more before him and there will a new one
this coming November. I refer to the true power as money-lenders
because I like the euphemism and it encapsulates both the greed and a
bit of historical reference to what happened to them when Jesus went
postal on them and overturned their tables.

What you got here, is the failure for the peoples to understand that
nothing has changed. The power is still within the castle walls and
all we have accomplished, is the change of the names of the burden/tax
that we as 'serfs' are having extorted from us.
"Give your money to us, you'll feel safer because we can obliterate
that bad guy over that hill there.....oh, there isn't one... we'll
bloody well MAKE/MAKE-BIGGER-THAN-WHAT-HE-REALLY-IS an enemy." BOOGA
BOOGA... come here, give me half of what you've got and you'll sleep
better at night."

And when we look up at that castle wall, knowing the privileged ones
are having caviar, we don't mind, they're keeping us safe.

They're screwing us, and we like it. We like it so much, that we drape
ourselves in our flags, being a union Jack, Maple Leaf or Stars and
Stripes.

And when we look up at the castle walls, and word comes down that
'those people' on the other side of the forest have something the
Knights/our protectors want/need, we're happy to get it for them,
because they love us and keep us safe.

We have been had, people, We've been bullshat. We've been
Bilderbuggered. [sic as it is]

Soooooo...
Tim said:
> We have seen the enemy and he is us...

Whatcha gonna do about it Tim? Any suggestions?
>
> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. =A0Honesty, integrity, beauty,
> =A0 =A0 =A0and truth are the goals for grown ups. =A0Tolerance is for peop=
le
> =A0 =A0 =A0who dread being held to account for their actions and views and=

> =A0 =A0 =A0resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure.

Just like you tolerate being enslaved.

r

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 3:21 AM


"Tim Daneliuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
> and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
> who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
> resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure.

You may want to choose some of your words more carefully. The word
"Tolerance" can take many forms including bigotry, prejudice and hatred of
those who are different. Solely for the reason that I use a wheelchair, I've
experienced "intolerance" a number of times. I'm perfectly fine with being
held to account for my actions. I'm not fine with experiencing prejudice and
intolerance for things that I have no control over.

David Moore

CK

"CM"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 12:36 AM

Damn....summer dresses!!! Now your pushing my buttons. High 90's and low
100's here already. Plenty of summer dresses and shorts. Both are good but a
good summer dress always wins. Especially if its on a female.

cm


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:58e5b96e-7172-4ffc-b6e6-72569fe4dd2e@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 1:48 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Okay... I surrender. I had to have ONE more funrun at this shit.

As always, It got me nowhere. Fun thought.
Can we talk about all those summer dresses now?

Ww

Woodie

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 7:00 PM

Doug Winterburn wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Leon" wrote:
>>
>>> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>>
>> Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
>> where does that leave the republicans this time around?
>
> Does this mean he'll need a new pair of shoes?

or perhaps a new fish.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 5:08 PM


"Leon" wrote:

> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.

Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
where does that leave the republicans this time around?

Lew

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 8:38 PM

Larry Blanchard wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:35:59 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> You have
>> absolutely got to be kidding! John McCain -- the guy who is buying into
>> all this global warming BS? The guy who abrogated the first amendment
>> with
>> his McCain/Feingold campaign finance bill? The guy who sponsored the
>> McCain/Kennedy amnesty for illegal aliens bill? The candidate that all
>> ....
>
> Awwwwww! A bad year for the Limbaughs and their ilk? Gee, I'm really
> sorry.
>
> As the sun slowly sinks on the radio towers of the right ....

You obviously didn't read the original post (or just decided to ignore it)
in which the OP was ranting about how McCain had sold his soul to the far
right.

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 8:35 PM

Robatoy wrote:

> On Jun 6, 1:52 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Give me cute girl in a sun dress and you guys can have all the rest.
>>
>> Robert
>
> I'm with you! A beautiful woman looks better in the right clothes than
> when she's popping out all over.
> Take this dress, for instance. Completely hides everything, so you
> have no clue if there's anything nice underneath all that material.
> http://urbanupdater.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/smockdress.jpg
> <g>
> Now... back to work ya'll!!

Well, if you really want the demure, hidden look, how about:
http://www.merateonline.it/2001/novembre/Immagini/boccaccia_1811_1.jpg

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 8:40 PM

CM wrote:

> You certainly have and eye for design. The print is lovely.
>
> BTW I saw the largest mini skirt ever yesterday. It was making its way
> into a Seven Eleven to buy donuts. I counted four donuts. Must be for the
> kids....... Well maybe not.
>
> cm
>

Oh gads, *that* was a mental image I didn't need.


>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people
>> together on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I
>> guess not.....
>> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>>
> If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 7:35 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:

>
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>
> Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
> where does that leave the republicans this time around?
>
> Lew

I've resisted this thread until this one.

What planet do you live on, or what are you smoking? Maverick John McCain
sold the bottom of his shoe to the far right fringe of the party? You have
absolutely got to be kidding! John McCain -- the guy who is buying into
all this global warming BS? The guy who abrogated the first amendment with
his McCain/Feingold campaign finance bill? The guy who sponsored the
McCain/Kennedy amnesty for illegal aliens bill? The candidate that all
constitutional constructionist conservative pundits are having significant
problems with being able to recommend, let alone support? The guy who has
crossed the aisle to rub elbows with the dems more than his own party? The
guy who helped form the gang of 14 that destroyed the ability of the
Republican majority to get the Senate to approve judicial nominees when the
dems used the filibuster in a way that was unprecedented? The John McCain
who opposed the tax cuts? The John McCain who, in the past several days has
spent time praising Obama and Hillary and pilloring the President (a member
of his own party)? That John McCain, far right? Just what do you see
as "far right" about Maverick John McCain, or just how far left are you?



--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 5:34 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:

>I heard that the Senator from Arizona has come up with his new
>campaign slogan:
>
>"In Your Heart You Know He's RIGHT."
>
>....wait a minute...

Yeah, yeah, I get it. Senator. Arizona. Right. I get it. I'm not *that* old.

Now here's one for the Senator from Illinois:

"In Your Guts You Know He's NUTS."

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 5:48 PM


"Doug Winterburn" wrote:

> Does this mean he'll need a new pair of shoes?

New something.

Should know better than trying to engage brain before morning java<G>.


Lew

CK

"CM"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 2:01 AM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:fcaf5302-4366-4a4f-b482-059a25ff50d2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 8:36 pm, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Damn....summer dresses!!! Now your pushing my buttons. High 90's and low
> 100's here already. Plenty of summer dresses and shorts. Both are good but
> a
> good summer dress always wins. Especially if its on a female.
>
Even better with a light breeze.


mmmmmm......

cm

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 9:58 AM


"Robatoy" wrote in message
On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" wrote:
> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people together
> on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess
not.....
> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>
> If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html

I've always been a sucker for factory air ...

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Last update: 5/14/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

CK

"CM"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 1:26 PM

Glen,

I think I'll go out and get Jill a burka......
Thanks for sharing.

cm
"Glen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here is one that should be of offence to no one.
>
> http://hodja.files.wordpress.com/2006/02/burka.jpg
>
> Glen
>
> --
> "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
> just that they know so much that isn't so."
>
>
> - Ronald Reagan
> "jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people
>>>> together
>>>> on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess
>>>> not.....
>>>> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>>>>
>>> If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
>>> http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html
>>>
>> Hmmmm. Trying to picture that. How are your legs? Pics on ABPW?
>> shhllluuuurrrrrrrp,
>> jo4hn
>
>

ss

"sawzdust"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 5:46 AM

Yeah but it's costing us all a lot of money, for something that needs a
whole lot of renovations. Especially after Bush announced that the Iraq War
was a learn-as-we-go process. Thats way to much dollars for OJT! Tolerance?
I think it's more fear and ignorance related since everybody seems scared
about just everything these days and even though with the History made
yesterday it certainly won't even cover all the bad shit we've done. Instead
of better we are far worse. Iraq, secret prisons, torture all the dead.....
Sorry but we're far worse then in our whole history!

Be honest, after Bush even Hitler or Castro would have a good shot at
running and winning! Obama appears very bright with excellent timing! If he
cleans up the Whitehouse and keeps his promise on an open and honest
government....then America could be a Democracy after all.



"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:u4J1k.39822$yg6.17752@trnddc01...
> Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a
> people.
>
> A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the
> USA.
>
> How many would have though it possible even 3 years ago?
>
> I suggest not many.
>
> I'm old enough to remember when Eisenhower sent the troops into Little
> Rock.
>
> I'm old enough to remember telling my daughter (Obama's age) that if
> she got grades twice as good as her brothers, worked twice as hard as
> they did, she would probably earn half as much money.
>
> Fair? Hell no, but the "glass ceiling" existed in corporate America in
> those days.
>
> Things aren't perfect, but they are improving.
>
> Regardless of how the election shakes out this November, we as a
> people will have demonstrated just how much tolerance we have learned,
> and how it has made us better for it.
>
> Lew
>
>

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 9:16 AM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people together
>> on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess not.....
>> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>>
> If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html
>
Hmmmm. Trying to picture that. How are your legs? Pics on ABPW?
shhllluuuurrrrrrrp,
jo4hn

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 10:17 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>
> Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
> where does that leave the republicans this time around?

Does this mean he'll need a new pair of shoes?

Jb

JCrowe

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 1:44 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>
> Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party,
> where does that leave the republicans this time around?
>
> Lew
>
>
He sold the bottom of his shoe?? Who would want that??

--
They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for
one's country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in
your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason.
-- Ernest Hemingway

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 5:30 AM

Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jun 5, 7:53 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:u4J1k.39822$yg6.17752@trnddc01...
>>
>> > Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a
>> > people.
>>
>> > A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the
>> > USA.
>>
>> Have we forgotten Jessie Jackson running for president and or was it
>> Al Sharpton? Geraldine Ferarro?
>
> None were truly viable candidates. Jesse Jackson? A no chancer, but
> maybe, and I emphasize maybe, one who was necessary to the process of
> getting Obama nominated as a candidate for a major party. I seem to
> recall Ferraro going for VP,

Mondale/Ferraro 1984. Lost to Reagan/Bush The Elder.

> but my memory could be off a bit.
> Sharpton? Tawana Brawley's protector? If he put a hat on all the
> grease in his hair and mind would cause it to slide to whatever coast
> was furthest.

At least he's funny. Jackson's just a shake down artist.
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 7:44 AM


"Ross Hebeisen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Your point is take'n Lew and I like to look for something good in things
> also, however as far as what has really been accomplished from the state
> we are now in Porky Pig could have been a valid contender, now that
> would have been different. sorry Lew.
> ross
>

Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 12:18 PM

On Jun 7, 3:07=A0pm, Fred the Red Shirt <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 7, 1:15 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 5, 7:51 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> =A0...
>
> > >> Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.
>
> > > He is NOT a redneck.
>
> > ...
>
> > Just for clarification: Was that a compliment, observation, or
> > slap?
>
> I was defending rednecks.
>
> --
>
> FF

<G>

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 7:39 AM

On Jun 7, 12:37=A0am, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message I'm with you! A
>
> beautiful woman looks better in the right clothes than
> when she's popping out all over.
> Take this dress, for instance. Completely hides everything, so you
> have no clue if there's anything nice underneath all that material.http://=
urbanupdater.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/smockdress.jpg
>
> If you're even contemplating that there might be nothing underneath that
> dress, either your eyesight is on its last legs or you've lost the lenses
> for your glasses. There's plenty body visible to accurately know exactly
> what's not visible.

That was completely tongue-in-cheek, Dave. (MY cheek)

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 4:02 PM

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 06:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jun 6, 1:52 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Give me cute girl in a sun dress and you guys can have all the rest.
>>
>> Robert
>
>I'm with you! A beautiful woman looks better in the right clothes than
>when she's popping out all over.

I can imagine...

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nn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 12:35 AM

On Jun 5, 12:50 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:

SNIP of vitriolic spew

> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools.

But... without "tolerance" how could anyone be expected to tolerate
you vomiting up all that paranoid, demented shit from deep inside your
bowels?

Nope. We need tolerance.

Time to adjust your tin hat and make sure the meds you are taking are
actually yours.

Robert

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 12:21 PM

jo4hn wrote:
> Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a people.
>>>
>>> A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the USA.
>>>
>>> How many would have though it possible even 3 years ago?
>>>
>>> I suggest not many.
>>>
>>> I'm old enough to remember when Eisenhower sent the troops into
>>> Little Rock.
>>>
>>> I'm old enough to remember telling my daughter (Obama's age) that if
>>> she got grades twice as good as her brothers, worked twice as hard as
>>> they did, she would probably earn half as much money.
>>>
>>> Fair? Hell no, but the "glass ceiling" existed in corporate America
>>> in those days.
>>>
>>> Things aren't perfect, but they are improving.
>>>
>>> Regardless of how the election shakes out this November, we as a
>>> people will have demonstrated just how much tolerance we have
>>> learned, and how it has made us better for it.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You bet. Here's what we've "demonstrated":
>>
>> 1) That a craven, self-interested politician without the remotest
>> shred of
>> personal decency (Hillary) will put personal ambition and lust for
>> power before integrity and love of country.
>>
>> 2) That a corrupt, slick snakeoil salesman (Obama) will don the vernier
>> of civility and make latent their race baiting to attempt the
>> ascent to power.
>>
>> 3) That integrity, honor, and love of country are now trumped by feeble
>> contra-Constitutional agendas of political correctness, impossible
>> outcome management, and general intellectual fantasy
>>
>> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
>> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
>> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
>> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
>> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
>> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>>
>>
>> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
>> and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
>> who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
>> resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure. I will happily
>> vote for a woman or an ethnic minority when one worthy of my
>> vote appears. The two candidates in question are not - they are
>> the very bottom of the political sewer. I have the misfortune
>> of having Obama as one of my US Senators. I regularly stand in
>> awe that a graduate of one of the finest laws schools in the country
>> seems to not have even a passing acquaintance of its Constitution,
>> foundational laws, and traditions.
>>
>>
> Dear God! I am certainly glad that you don't believe the drivel that
> you post here. I would fear for your mental health and your immortal
> soul if you did.
> what have we created?
> jo4hn

I believe every word of what I wrote. But it is theoretical. I doubt
Obama can actually win ...

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Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 9:22 AM

On Jun 5, 10:10=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> You are smoking crack. =A0Nothing has changed? =A0Since when. =A0There
> has been more change for the positive in the past 100 years all
> over this planet than the past 10,000 years of recorded history.
>

I forgot we have cars now too... and Rove... Yes indeed, a lot has
changed.

You are incapable of abstract thought?
The BIG picture, idiot!
Zoom back a little and take a close look at that 'freedom' of yours.
Freedom only exists in the minds of dreamers and then only within the
confines of what your overlords allow you to have.

I thought you were brighter than that... in a Rovian way of course.
(I live a better-than-average life-style and enjoy the toys money buys
me. I have never smoked crack. But you have way too many buttons I can
push for me to continue a conversation with Rove-Light. (You're not as
bright as Karl.)

<G>

Ft

Fred the Red Shirt

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 12:07 PM

On Jun 7, 1:15 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 5, 7:51 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> ...
>
> >> Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.
>
> > He is NOT a redneck.
>
> ...
>
> Just for clarification: Was that a compliment, observation, or
> slap?
>

I was defending rednecks.

--

FF

Ft

Fred the Red Shirt

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 4:06 PM

On Jun 8, 12:31 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 1:15 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
>
> >>> On Jun 5, 7:51 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>> Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.
> >>> He is NOT a redneck.
> >> ...
>
> >> Just for clarification: Was that a compliment, observation, or
> >> slap?
>
> > I was defending rednecks.
> ...
>
> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>

In this instance the tactic was escalation by involving an innocent
third party, sort of like when Saddam Hussein Scudded Israel.

--

FF

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 9:03 AM

On Jun 5, 10:45=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Jun 5, 8:53 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > WAAAIIITT-A-SECONNNND... did I just get sucked into this thread...my
> > bad. oopsies.
>
> HAH!
>
> I knew it!
>
> You can't resist...
>
> Four posts on this OT political thread alone!!
>
> =A0 ;^)
>
> Robert

Don't you have some work to do? <G>

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 2:41 PM

On Jun 5, 5:06=A0pm, "Flash" <[email protected]> wrote:

oowee... Flash has risen from the obscure!!

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

08/06/2008 10:34 AM

On Jun 8, 12:57=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 12:37=A0pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Robatoy wrote:
> > > On Jun 8, 11:43=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Robatoy wrote:
> > >> > On Jun 8, 12:31 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> >> In the absence of a coherent argument, attack the individual, eh?
>
> > >> > Do you have a license to use "eh"?
>
> > >> > Papers, please.....
>
> > >> I was born with one, eh. =A0But it may have lapsed, eh.
> > >> However, I once lived in C-eh-n-eh-d-eh ...
>
> > >> --
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------=
------
> > >> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> > >> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> > > Alllright, limited use license granted.
>
> > I think we still need to see the paperwork, eh?
> > ;-)
> > --
> > Froz...
>
> Limited use of 'eh' is not the same as being allowed to wear the Hoser
> Badge. Right?
>
> btw.. you watching F1 Montreal this afternoon?
>
> Go LEWIS!!

BAD Lewis.

nn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 7:45 AM

On Jun 5, 8:53 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> WAAAIIITT-A-SECONNNND... did I just get sucked into this thread...my
> bad. oopsies.

HAH!

I knew it!

You can't resist...

Four posts on this OT political thread alone!!

;^)

Robert

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 5:54 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
That was completely tongue-in-cheek, Dave. (MY cheek)

Ok, guess I've been a little slow these days. I'm blaming on the recent heat
wave we're in.

nn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 11:49 AM

On Jun 5, 11:03 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't you have some work to do? <G>

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Yeah.... probably.

Tear 'em up buddy. I see you have one solidly hooked as of now.

Robert

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 12:27 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:10a7413c-1afc-47fa-beb4-3b04e724b0eb@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 6, 10:58 am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote in message
>
> On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" wrote:
>
> > Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people
together
> > on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess
> not.....
> > The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>
> > If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
> > http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html
>
> I've always been a sucker for factory air ...


> I love a good cup of coffee, except when it blows out of my nose onto
> my keyboard.
> You magnificent bastard!

LOL .. Do you really get our "magnificent radio gods" up that far North??
:)

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RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 6:29 PM

On Jun 5, 8:36=A0pm, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Damn....summer dresses!!! Now your pushing my buttons. High 90's and low
> 100's here already. Plenty of summer dresses and shorts. Both are good but=
a
> good summer dress always wins. Especially if its on a female.
>
Even better with a light breeze.

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 1:32 PM

On Jun 5, 7:53 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:u4J1k.39822$yg6.17752@trnddc01...
>
> > Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a people.
>
> > A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the USA.
>
> Have we forgotten Jessie Jackson running for president and or was it Al
> Sharpton? Geraldine Ferarro?

None were truly viable candidates. Jesse Jackson? A no chancer, but
maybe, and I emphasize maybe, one who was necessary to the process of
getting Obama nominated as a candidate for a major party. I seem to
recall Ferraro going for VP, but my memory could be off a bit.
Sharpton? Tawana Brawley's protector? If he put a hat on all the
grease in his hair and mind would cause it to slide to whatever coast
was furthest.

nn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 7:55 AM

On Jun 5, 7:20 am, [email protected] (Ross Hebeisen) wrote:
> Your point is take'n Lew and I like to look for something good in things
> also, however as far as what has really been accomplished from the state
> we are now in Porky Pig could have been a valid contender, now that
> would have been different. sorry Lew.
> ross

I saw James Carvelle, the Demo bulldog on Letterman many months ago,
probably around Thanksgiving.

He felt like the Dems in the white house was an absolute "given".
After all, with the current administration's poor popularity rating
being as low as it has been for so long, with the economy really just
starting to tank, and with the price of fuel going where it has, and
with the rumblings of "The Surge" starting, he opined that it should
be like shooting fish in a barrel.

In keeping with that, you can see how the above concerns (plus many
others) has intensified enormously.

Carvelle later opined (paraphrased by me) "if the Democrats can't put
a candidate in office after all of this mess caused by the Republicans
they don't deserve to even have a party at all. This should be the
easiest election yet as anything would be better than another
Republican president".

It's gonna be interesting.

Robert

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 9:55 AM

>>
>
> You bet. Here's what we've "demonstrated":
>
> 1) That a craven, self-interested politician without the remotest shred of
> personal decency (Hillary) will put personal ambition and lust for
> power before integrity and love of country.
>
> 2) That a corrupt, slick snakeoil salesman (Obama) will don the vernier
> of civility and make latent their race baiting to attempt the ascent to
> power.
>
> 3) That integrity, honor, and love of country are now trumped by feeble
> contra-Constitutional agendas of political correctness, impossible
> outcome management, and general intellectual fantasy
>
> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>
>
> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
> and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
> who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
> resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure. I will happily
> vote for a woman or an ethnic minority when one worthy of my
> vote appears. The two candidates in question are not - they are
> the very bottom of the political sewer. I have the misfortune
> of having Obama as one of my US Senators. I regularly stand in
> awe that a graduate of one of the finest laws schools in the country
> seems to not have even a passing acquaintance of its Constitution,
> foundational laws, and traditions.
>
AMEN
The powers that be are intrenched so well, they will never be replaced. No
matter who is elected.



Ff

"Flash"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 5:06 PM

>"McCain has sold his sole to the far right..."


And did he sell his halibut to the extremist fish nwhackos on other side?

Flash



"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C4V1k.24032$0O1.23379@trnddc07...
>
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> Something Different would be a candidate that is Honest.
>
> Since McCain has sold his sole to the far right fringe of the party, where
> does that leave the republicans this time around?
>
> Lew
>
>

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 12:15 AM

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
> On Jun 5, 7:51 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.
>
> He is NOT a redneck.
>
> --
>
> FF
>
>

Just for clarification: Was that a compliment, observation, or
slap?

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TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 3:37 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:20 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:50:18 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>>> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
>>>> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
>>>> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
>>>> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
>>>> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
>>>> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>>> Tim, while I don't often agree with you, I do generally enjoy reading your
>>> postings. But I think you've gone overboard this time. You seem to be
>>> excessively vitriolic and bitter. Get a grip!
>> I am neither vitriolic or bitter. But neither will I sit by quietly
>> while Obama proposes (as he has in the past here in IL) to remove my
>> money, my guns, and thus, my liberty. He is a really bad candidate
>> who should deservedly lose in a big way.
>>
>
> Your problem is that that you're a dyed-in-wool redneck.

Rednecks typically only wear wool when it's cold. It is now summer
in North America and no wool is required where I live. Also, it's not
my fault that my Eastern European forebears bestowed me with the DNA
for skin that gets very red when in the presence of the sun for more
than 15 milliseconds.


> And owning a gun makes you free!

No. Owning a gun *keeps* you free. *God* made me free, and my predecessors
in this country saw to it that I get to remain so ... oh, and they used guns
too.

> TRUE freedom would mean I am free without needing a gun. That concept
> might be a bit difficult for you...I understand.. here, have a banana.
>
> You call me a bigot, but the truth is, I dislike assholes. And, using
> you as an example, they come in all colours and races.
>

Behold the enlightened defender of truth.

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"Leon"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 6:53 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:u4J1k.39822$yg6.17752@trnddc01...
> Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a people.
>
> A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the USA.


Have we forgotten Jessie Jackson running for president and or was it Al
Sharpton? Geraldine Ferarro?

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 12:50 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a
> people.
>
> A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the
> USA.
>
> How many would have though it possible even 3 years ago?
>
> I suggest not many.
>
> I'm old enough to remember when Eisenhower sent the troops into Little
> Rock.
>
> I'm old enough to remember telling my daughter (Obama's age) that if
> she got grades twice as good as her brothers, worked twice as hard as
> they did, she would probably earn half as much money.
>
> Fair? Hell no, but the "glass ceiling" existed in corporate America in
> those days.
>
> Things aren't perfect, but they are improving.
>
> Regardless of how the election shakes out this November, we as a
> people will have demonstrated just how much tolerance we have learned,
> and how it has made us better for it.
>
> Lew
>
>

You bet. Here's what we've "demonstrated":

1) That a craven, self-interested politician without the remotest shred of
personal decency (Hillary) will put personal ambition and lust for
power before integrity and love of country.

2) That a corrupt, slick snakeoil salesman (Obama) will don the vernier
of civility and make latent their race baiting to attempt the ascent to power.

3) That integrity, honor, and love of country are now trumped by feeble
contra-Constitutional agendas of political correctness, impossible
outcome management, and general intellectual fantasy

You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
We have seen the enemy and he is us...


P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure. I will happily
vote for a woman or an ethnic minority when one worthy of my
vote appears. The two candidates in question are not - they are
the very bottom of the political sewer. I have the misfortune
of having Obama as one of my US Senators. I regularly stand in
awe that a graduate of one of the finest laws schools in the country
seems to not have even a passing acquaintance of its Constitution,
foundational laws, and traditions.


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TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 10:47 AM

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:51:14 -0700, Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:


>As the sun slowly sinks on the radio towers of the right ....


I was thinking that most of these Political Scientologist threads wind
up looking like a NASCAR race in reverse.

Right Turn.

Right Turn.

Right Turn...





Regards,

Tom

Thos.J.Watson - Cabinetmaker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
www.home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 8:55 AM

On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:50:18 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:


>
> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
> We have seen the enemy and he is us...

Tim, while I don't often agree with you, I do generally enjoy reading your
postings. But I think you've gone overboard this time. You seem to be
excessively vitriolic and bitter. Get a grip!


LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 8:51 AM

On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:35:59 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:

> You have
> absolutely got to be kidding! John McCain -- the guy who is buying into
> all this global warming BS? The guy who abrogated the first amendment with
> his McCain/Feingold campaign finance bill? The guy who sponsored the
> McCain/Kennedy amnesty for illegal aliens bill? The candidate that all ....

Awwwwww! A bad year for the Limbaughs and their ilk? Gee, I'm really
sorry.

As the sun slowly sinks on the radio towers of the right ....

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 9:47 AM

Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Yesterday's events served to document how far we have come as a
>> people.
>>
>> A woman and a black(mulatto) man seeking the highest office in the
>> USA.
>>
>> How many would have though it possible even 3 years ago?
>>
>> I suggest not many.
>>
>> I'm old enough to remember when Eisenhower sent the troops into Little
>> Rock.
>>
>> I'm old enough to remember telling my daughter (Obama's age) that if
>> she got grades twice as good as her brothers, worked twice as hard as
>> they did, she would probably earn half as much money.
>>
>> Fair? Hell no, but the "glass ceiling" existed in corporate America in
>> those days.
>>
>> Things aren't perfect, but they are improving.
>>
>> Regardless of how the election shakes out this November, we as a
>> people will have demonstrated just how much tolerance we have learned,
>> and how it has made us better for it.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
> You bet. Here's what we've "demonstrated":
>
> 1) That a craven, self-interested politician without the remotest shred of
> personal decency (Hillary) will put personal ambition and lust for
> power before integrity and love of country.
>
> 2) That a corrupt, slick snakeoil salesman (Obama) will don the vernier
> of civility and make latent their race baiting to attempt the ascent to power.
>
> 3) That integrity, honor, and love of country are now trumped by feeble
> contra-Constitutional agendas of political correctness, impossible
> outcome management, and general intellectual fantasy
>
> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>
>
> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
> and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
> who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
> resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure. I will happily
> vote for a woman or an ethnic minority when one worthy of my
> vote appears. The two candidates in question are not - they are
> the very bottom of the political sewer. I have the misfortune
> of having Obama as one of my US Senators. I regularly stand in
> awe that a graduate of one of the finest laws schools in the country
> seems to not have even a passing acquaintance of its Constitution,
> foundational laws, and traditions.
>
>
Dear God! I am certainly glad that you don't believe the drivel that
you post here. I would fear for your mental health and your immortal
soul if you did.
what have we created?
jo4hn

Di

"Dave in Houston"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 5:19 PM


"Tim Daneliuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> You bet. Here's what we've "demonstrated":
>
> 1) That a craven, self-interested politician without the remotest shred of
> personal decency (Hillary) will put personal ambition and lust for
> power before integrity and love of country.
>
> 2) That a corrupt, slick snakeoil salesman (Obama) will don the vernier
> of civility and make latent their race baiting to attempt the ascent to
> power.
>
> 3) That integrity, honor, and love of country are now trumped by feeble
> contra-Constitutional agendas of political correctness, impossible
> outcome management, and general intellectual fantasy
>
> You think Bush was bad? You'll beg for him back if Obama is elected.
> Personally, I see no reason to work hard if an increasing portion of
> my work product is redirected to crack whores, tribal Africans
> immersed in genocide, government funded abortions, and funding the
> further decline of our intellectual and popular culture into sewage.
> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>
>
> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
> and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
> who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
> resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure. I will happily
> vote for a woman or an ethnic minority when one worthy of my
> vote appears. The two candidates in question are not - they are
> the very bottom of the political sewer. I have the misfortune
> of having Obama as one of my US Senators. I regularly stand in
> awe that a graduate of one of the finest laws schools in the country
> seems to not have even a passing acquaintance of its Constitution,
> foundational laws, and traditions.

You left this out: I can no longer sit back and allow Communist
infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the
international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious
bodily fluids. - General Jack D. Ripper

Dave in HOuston

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 4:01 PM

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:14:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
>http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html

Is that really your color? <G>

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"CM"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 2:22 PM

You certainly have and eye for design. The print is lovely.

BTW I saw the largest mini skirt ever yesterday. It was making its way into
a Seven Eleven to buy donuts. I counted four donuts. Must be for the
kids....... Well maybe not.

cm


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people together
> on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess
> not.....
> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>
If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html

Gg

"Glen"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

07/06/2008 8:43 AM

Here is one that should be of offence to no one.

http://hodja.files.wordpress.com/2006/02/burka.jpg

Glen

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"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Robatoy wrote:
>> On Jun 6, 9:17 am, "CM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people
>>> together
>>> on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess
>>> not.....
>>> The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.
>>>
>> If this one was just a little longer, I would like it.
>> http://www.fashiontrendsetter.com/content/articles/2007/Primark-p1.html
>>
> Hmmmm. Trying to picture that. How are your legs? Pics on ABPW?
> shhllluuuurrrrrrrp,
> jo4hn

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 7:21 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Jun 5, 12:50 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> SNIP of vitriolic spew
>
>> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools.
>
> But... without "tolerance" how could anyone be expected to tolerate
> you vomiting up all that paranoid, demented shit from deep inside your
> bowels?
>
> Nope. We need tolerance.
>
> Time to adjust your tin hat and make sure the meds you are taking are
> actually yours.
>
> Robert

I don't expect you to "tolerate" anything I say. Either engage in
an adult debate or don't. Oh wait ... you've already gone for
the personal jugular ... never mind.

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Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 9:24 AM

Upscale wrote:
> "Tim Daneliuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
>> and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
>> who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
>> resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure.
>
> You may want to choose some of your words more carefully. The word
> "Tolerance" can take many forms including bigotry, prejudice and hatred of
> those who are different. Solely for the reason that I use a wheelchair, I've
> experienced "intolerance" a number of times. I'm perfectly fine with being
> held to account for my actions. I'm not fine with experiencing prejudice and
> intolerance for things that I have no control over.
>
> David Moore
>
>

With all due respect, *everyone* has experiences some form of
"intolerance" at some point, but the answer is not to jump up and down
and scream for more tolerance. I do not wish my deficits - even the
ones not of my own making - to be "tolerated". I want my virtues and
abilities *celebrated*.

"Tolerance" is a bottom of the barrel notion that people cling to
because they have such low expectations for themselves and their
society. Moreover, to be fully tolerant is to tolerate evil ... which
is more-or-less where the West has been heading for decades.

The OP on this thread was clapping his hands and jumping for joy
because a black man and a woman has been involved in a major electoral
competition. So what? Neither of them had anything to do with being
black or a woman respectively. They didn't *earn* these distinctions
by merit, hard work, perseverance, or education but we're supposed to
cheer because the "right people" got political traction.

Never mind that they are both contemptible personally and
professionally. Never mind that smarmy condescension oozes from every
pore of their public proclamation. Never mind that they are class
warriors (even though they are personally wealthy). Never mind that
they are race and gender baiters (even though they claim to be
"tolerant" of everyone). Never mind that their ideas are destructive
to liberty, economic nightmares, and violate the very founding
precepts of our nation. What's *realllllly* important is that "the
chick and the black dude" are running. Right.




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Renata

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 9:36 AM

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:36:49 GMT, "CM" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Damn....summer dresses!!! Now your pushing my buttons. High 90's and low
>100's here already. Plenty of summer dresses and shorts. Both are good but a
>good summer dress always wins.

> Especially if its on a female.

?!!!!!!!!!?

>
>cm
>
You have a lotta guys in your neck of the woods wearing summer
dresses? It gets that hot, maybe? Or?

;-)

Renata

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

05/06/2008 9:10 AM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:50 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> [snipped most of old-hat post]
>
> The 'head of state' in almost all cases, is someone who the money-
> lenders 'allow' to be their spokesman and figure head. Bush was such a
> puppet. There have been many more before him and there will a new one
> this coming November. I refer to the true power as money-lenders
> because I like the euphemism and it encapsulates both the greed and a
> bit of historical reference to what happened to them when Jesus went
> postal on them and overturned their tables.

You obviously haven't read much history or at least don't understand
it very well. Before the creation of banking, capital formation,
and money lending, humanity lived in abject misery. You live
better than the very richest person on the entire planet just
a few hundred years ago, let alone before the advent of banking.
As capital formation moved from being tribal to becoming mercantile
to eventually becoming capitalism as practiced today, you can
see a parallel improvement in more and more lives of the people
of each of these eras. In short, your objection to the money
lenders is silly, ad hominem and utterly without merit until/unless
the practice fraud, force, or threat.

>
> What you got here, is the failure for the peoples to understand that
> nothing has changed. The power is still within the castle walls and
> all we have accomplished, is the change of the names of the burden/tax
> that we as 'serfs' are having extorted from us.

You are smoking crack. Nothing has changed? Since when. There
has been more change for the positive in the past 100 years all
over this planet than the past 10,000 years of recorded history.

> "Give your money to us, you'll feel safer because we can obliterate
> that bad guy over that hill there.....oh, there isn't one... we'll
> bloody well MAKE/MAKE-BIGGER-THAN-WHAT-HE-REALLY-IS an enemy." BOOGA
> BOOGA... come here, give me half of what you've got and you'll sleep
> better at night."

Again, you must be hitting the pipe. You desperately need to read
a good volume on world history. There are - on the whole - *fewer*
wars today than ever, certainly insofar as the West participates.
(The various tribal sewers around the world manage to maintain
a tradition of constant warfare, but they are footnotes on the
larger stage of the planet.)
>
> And when we look up at that castle wall, knowing the privileged ones
> are having caviar, we don't mind, they're keeping us safe.

And here we see your class bigotry. Since you are evidently not
of one of the privileged class, you hate them. Could it be because
you feel inadequate in that you cannot accomplish what they have?

>
> They're screwing us, and we like it. We like it so much, that we drape
> ourselves in our flags, being a union Jack, Maple Leaf or Stars and
> Stripes.

Sheer lunacy. Those flags represent more freedom and opportunity
for more people over the span of their existence than any other
single human culture before. Yes, all three of these nations
have had their naughty moments, but they are minor in the large
context of human history. Slavery? The West was involved for
300-400 years, but Africa has an unbroken tradition of slaving
*to this day*. Violence, war, and murder? It's been part of
every culture including the three nations you cite. But in each
of those nations it has been a diminishing activity for decades.

>
> And when we look up at the castle walls, and word comes down that
> 'those people' on the other side of the forest have something the
> Knights/our protectors want/need, we're happy to get it for them,
> because they love us and keep us safe.
>
> We have been had, people, We've been bullshat. We've been
> Bilderbuggered. [sic as it is]
>
> Soooooo...
> Tim said:
>> We have seen the enemy and he is us...
>
> Whatcha gonna do about it Tim? Any suggestions?

Continue to point out the manifest evil of people like Clinton and
Obama.

>> P.S. "Tolerance" is a goal for fools. Honesty, integrity, beauty,
>> and truth are the goals for grown ups. Tolerance is for people
>> who dread being held to account for their actions and views and
>> resort to tolerating everything as a countermeasure.
>
> Just like you tolerate being enslaved.

I am not enslaved by the wealthy, the money lenders, the military,
and all the rest of your hobby horse enemies. I am enslaved - to
the extent that I am - by my fellow citizens. People like you
who are the beneficiaries of free markets, capitalism, and personal
liberty, but who now wish to turn their backs on these things because
the outcomes aren't equal enough to suit them. I don't fear the
government anywhere near as much as I fear arguments like yours -
that wealth is inherently evil, that power is one vast conspiracy,
and that banking is the instrument of oppression. You're views
are terrifying because - to the extent that people believe these
insane notions - they will turn their backs on the very things
that actually keep them relatively free.


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"CM"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 05/06/2008 3:29 AM

06/06/2008 1:17 PM

Mention of summer dresses has brought three very different people together
on this group. Could this be the answer to world peace? No I guess not.....
The silly Muslims would not approve of summer dresses.

cm
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jun 5, 3:52 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> As always, It got me nowhere. Fun thought.
>> Can we talk about all those summer dresses now?
>
> OK.
>
> It is around 100 every day here, hot for this time of year even for
> South Texas.
>
> But since you brought it up.
>
> I am remembering a fond time in my life when the girls were wearing
> (late 60's ? 70's for sure) those gauzy cotton sun dresses that came
> about to their knees. You remember, the kind that was loose, kinda
> blew around in a light breeze.
>
> http://www.ranchandcoast.com/july2006/images/sparrow.jpg
>
> http://www.jackiesboutique.com/Coverups_s/2.htm
>
> You didn't need to hang it all out in those days, and it really wasn't
> needed. Those were the days when the girls popped on the dress, some
> cute footwear, and sans underwear, we took off.
>
> It may be my imagination, but it seems women were a lot nicer in those
> days. And like I was at that time, everything was where God intended
> it to be, not where it is now. For them, there was no need for
> support...
>
> Sigh.
>
> Screw politics.
>
> Give me cute girl in a sun dress and you guys can have all the rest.
>
> Robert


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