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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:00:53 -0400, "R.H."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 961) Hmm ... perhaps something for placing around the neck of
>> livestock for leading them around?
>
>
>Best guess so far, you're right about it being placed on the neck of an
>animal, but it's not for leading them around.
Hi Rob,
Maybe what was called an "Animal-Poke"? Put around an
animals neck to prevent it from grazing. See the following
for some similar devices:
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT133334
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT1773792
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT230860
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT329220
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT361839
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT150743
There was a bazillion of these patented. I gave up on
looking for an exact match...
--
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963. Guessing. Sword hanger (frog).
Karl
On Apr 18, 10:35 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote
> A new set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
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>
> Rob
On Apr 19, 4:35 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> A new set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Google's Blogger switched my site from beta to "New Blogger", hopefully the
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> Rob
961- curd cutter?
Dave
On Apr 19, 4:35 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> A new set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Google's Blogger switched my site from beta to "New Blogger", hopefully the
> change will be transparent, but if there are any problems or improvements
> that might be the cause. So let me know if you encounter any negative
> issues with the upgrade.
>
> Rob
The rocks are stone hammer heads. My guess is that they were found in
Pennsylvania.
--riverman
I'd say it's a cat carrier but it's missing the screw.
http://www.abandonhope.shetland.co.uk/Humour/Catcarrier.jpg
Karl
On Apr 19, 10:00 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 961) Hmm ... perhaps something for placing around the neck of
> > livestock for leading them around?
>
> Best guess so far, you're right about it being placed on the neck of an
> animal, but it's not for leading them around.
>
> Rob
On Apr 20, 4:16 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was surprised how many patents there were for the animal pokes, I couldn't
> find an exact match either but it was slightly entertaining to see the
> pictures of animals wearing the various contraptions. I find very few of
> these things when I go to auctions.
I've been to quite a few auctions and antique stores around Wisconsin
and have never seen one.
I know it's not really on topic but I'm curious. Why was it so
important to prevent an animal from grazing that there were so many
types of pokes?
humunculus wrote:
> On Apr 19, 4:35 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>A new set has just been posted:
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>Google's Blogger switched my site from beta to "New Blogger", hopefully the
>>change will be transparent, but if there are any problems or improvements
>>that might be the cause. So let me know if you encounter any negative
>>issues with the upgrade.
>>
>>Rob
>
>
> The rocks are stone hammer heads. My guess is that they were found in
> Pennsylvania.
>
> --riverman
>
960 Part of a safe's combination lock?
963 Spur (for encouraging horses to "make tracks out of here".
Jeff
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In article <[email protected]>, Lee Michaels
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote
> >
> > As illustrated in the first patent link on the answer page, they are only
> > trying to prevent grazing of crops through a fence, normal grazing can
> > still
> > be done while wearing the poke. I guess a hungry cow or pig could eat a
> > lot
> > of corn if it was fenced in next to a field of it.
> >
> As an old farmboy, I can tell you that all domesticated animals resent being
> fenced in. They test and challenge fences constantly. Fence repair is a
> common chore on the farm.
>
> I would think that one reason for such a device would be to cut down on the
> wear and tear on the fences.
>
> I have never seen one of these animal pokes though.
I can only imagine the reaction of PETA to such a thing, no matter that
it may protect the animal from injury at the wire fence.
--
I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.
- Margaret Thatcher
> I am fascinated with these devices, but where do I find out what
> they are. I know you have posted the link to the answers but can't
> seem to find it.
> Thanks
I don't post the answer page until Friday, usually in the afternoon around
5:00 eastern, I'll post a link here in the newsgroups and also on my site.
Rob
"BillB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> R.H. wrote:
> >> 960 Part of a safe's combination lock?
> >
> > This answer is about 95% correct.
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> In a post office box?
Nope, that's not it.
Rob
>
> Guess for 959: Light box used to view gemstones. The gems are placed on
> the horizontal glass plate. Light reflects off of the 45 degree mirror
and
> passes up through the gems. The gems are viewed with the magnifier that
is
> held over the glass plate.
>
> Carl G.
You are correct in that it's a simple microscope with a glass plate and 45
degree mirror but it wasn't marked as being for looking at gemstones, though
I'm sure it could be used for that. It's probably more of a general purpose
device, and was tagged "microscope slide viewer".
Rob
> huh, i woulda guessed "sculptures", but i went to art school.
> i did a google search for "stone balls" and "stone spheres" the other day
> and came across this (and others)....
>
> http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/polyhedra/goc.htm
> http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146412410
> http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/archaeology/special/balls.asp
> http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/329stoneballs.html
>
> i don't recall ever having seen them before. fascinating.
> (somewhere i also saw a japanese webpage with what seemed like 3D
> illustrations for the "platonic solids" thing from the first link above)
>
> b.w.
Thanks for the links, I hadn't seen these before either, very
interesting/unusual looking artifacts.
Rob
> Is it put around the neck of a cow to make it difficult to get through a
> barbed wire fence of four strands or so?
Correct, it's an animal poke used to keep them in a fenced area.
At the bottom of the answer page I added a few more updates from previous
weeks, thanks to Karl for putting me in contact with the RSA who provided
information about the Silver Medal awarded to the plough plane.
http://pzphotosan165-t.blogspot.com/
Rob
> Maybe what was called an "Animal-Poke"? Put around an
> animals neck to prevent it from grazing. See the following
> for some similar devices:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT133334
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT1773792
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT230860
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT329220
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT361839
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT150743
>
> There was a bazillion of these patented. I gave up on
> looking for an exact match...
I was surprised how many patents there were for the animal pokes, I couldn't
find an exact match either but it was slightly entertaining to see the
pictures of animals wearing the various contraptions. I find very few of
these things when I go to auctions.
Rob
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Apr 20, 4:16 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I was surprised how many patents there were for the animal pokes, I
couldn't
> > find an exact match either but it was slightly entertaining to see the
> > pictures of animals wearing the various contraptions. I find very few
of
> > these things when I go to auctions.
>
> I've been to quite a few auctions and antique stores around Wisconsin
> and have never seen one.
>
> I know it's not really on topic but I'm curious. Why was it so
> important to prevent an animal from grazing that there were so many
> types of pokes?
>
As illustrated in the first patent link on the answer page, they are only
trying to prevent grazing of crops through a fence, normal grazing can still
be done while wearing the poke. I guess a hungry cow or pig could eat a lot
of corn if it was fenced in next to a field of it.
I have a book of very old tools that show a drawing a poke that was used on
a goose, I searched the web to see if there was a photo of one but didn't
have any luck, though I did find this ordinance from the town of Mexico,
N.Y.:
"April 7,1801, it was voted that no hog shall run at large without a
goose-poke eight inches above the neck and four inches below, small hogs in
proportion, after the 10th of May next, until the 26th of October next."
Probably to keep the free running hogs out of everyone else's crops.
Rob
"R.H." writes:
>> 961) Hmm ... perhaps something for placing around the neck of
>> livestock for leading them around?
>
>
> Best guess so far, you're right about it being placed on the neck of an
> animal, but it's not for leading them around.
Is it put around the neck of a cow to make it difficult to get through a
barbed wire fence of four strands or so?
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:36:59 -0400, "James Freeman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> As an old telephone man, I agree.
>
>"Mark F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:LNIVh.97260$aG1.2558@pd7urf3no...
>> 962 is for grasping indicator lamps in telephone etc. switchboards,
>> to remove and replace same. Oooooh, I got one (and I have one)!
>> /mark
>>
As another former Bell System person, I agree.
The turned down end was for seating the lamps when they were below the
surface of the panel.
John
962 is for grasping indicator lamps in telephone etc. switchboards,
to remove and replace same. Oooooh, I got one (and I have one)!
/mark
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> A new set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Google's Blogger switched my site from beta to "New Blogger", hopefully the
> change will be transparent, but if there are any problems or improvements
> that might be the cause. So let me know if you encounter any negative
> issues with the upgrade.
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Apr 20, 4:16 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I was surprised how many patents there were for the animal pokes, I
> couldn't
> > > find an exact match either but it was slightly entertaining to see the
> > > pictures of animals wearing the various contraptions. I find very few
> of
> > > these things when I go to auctions.
> >
> > I've been to quite a few auctions and antique stores around Wisconsin
> > and have never seen one.
> >
> > I know it's not really on topic but I'm curious. Why was it so
> > important to prevent an animal from grazing that there were so many
> > types of pokes?
> >
>
>
> As illustrated in the first patent link on the answer page, they are only
> trying to prevent grazing of crops through a fence, normal grazing can
still
> be done while wearing the poke. I guess a hungry cow or pig could eat a
lot
> of corn if it was fenced in next to a field of it.
>
> I have a book of very old tools that show a drawing a poke that was used
on
> a goose, I searched the web to see if there was a photo of one but didn't
> have any luck, though I did find this ordinance from the town of Mexico,
> N.Y.:
>
> "April 7,1801, it was voted that no hog shall run at large without a
> goose-poke eight inches above the neck and four inches below, small hogs
in
> proportion, after the 10th of May next, until the 26th of October next."
>
>
> Probably to keep the free running hogs out of everyone else's crops.
>
>
> Rob
>
>
Having grown up on a general dairy and hog farm in Minnesota, I am tolerably
familiar with the problem. While I have never seen a wooden contrivance
similar to these, we had and used steel ones made in the '50s. They were
made in two halves and bolted around the cow's neck and had hook-like
extensions facing forward and spike-like protrousions pointing toward the
rear near the cow's neck. The device had no effect on the cow's ordinary
activities, but, if she reached through a fence, the device would get hooked
on a wire and the spike would jab her.
To hold livestock, barbed wire fences must be tight. When cows start
reaching through (you know, the grass is always greener...), they'll stretch
and loosen the fence and soon they'll be walking through or over it.
I've never seen such a thing for a pig, but they're a whole different
matter. Barbed wire won't hold a pig. That requires woven wire. And the
pigs will try to go under it. The cure is to put rings in their noses to
keep them from digging. (I always used to think the rings were a bit cruel,
but now with all these kids running around with pierced practally
everything....)
Jerry
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> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>>>My guess is that the stones are weights for fishing nets.
>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, according to the owner they are net weights.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Are you sure, Rob? To me some of them look like gross weights and tare
> weights.
Weight a moment... If we are fishing for gross and tare-able puns, what's
the net difference?
Carl G.
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> that might be the cause. So let me know if you encounter any negative
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>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
I am fascinated with these devices, but where do I find out what
they are. I know you have posted the link to the answers but can't
seem to find it.
Thanks
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote
>
> As illustrated in the first patent link on the answer page, they are only
> trying to prevent grazing of crops through a fence, normal grazing can
> still
> be done while wearing the poke. I guess a hungry cow or pig could eat a
> lot
> of corn if it was fenced in next to a field of it.
>
As an old farmboy, I can tell you that all domesticated animals resent being
fenced in. They test and challenge fences constantly. Fence repair is a
common chore on the farm.
I would think that one reason for such a device would be to cut down on the
wear and tear on the fences.
I have never seen one of these animal pokes though.
As an old telephone man, I agree.
"Mark F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 962 is for grasping indicator lamps in telephone etc. switchboards,
> to remove and replace same. Oooooh, I got one (and I have one)!
> /mark
>
> R.H. wrote:
>> A new set has just been posted:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Google's Blogger switched my site from beta to "New Blogger", hopefully
>> the
>> change will be transparent, but if there are any problems or improvements
>> that might be the cause. So let me know if you encounter any negative
>> issues with the upgrade.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> A new set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Google's Blogger switched my site from beta to "New Blogger", hopefully the
> change will be transparent, but if there are any problems or improvements
> that might be the cause.
No problems accessing it. I even went in though my bookmark to
see it, and that had no problems.
> So let me know if you encounter any negative
> issues with the upgrade.
None so far.
As usual, I am posting from rec.crafts.metalworking.
959) Hmm ... the shape and the clear window suggest a card deck
shuffling machine. However, it is not clear whether there is a
disc with four radial partitions inside there, or whether it is
an artifact of reflections of something overhead.
960) Hmm ... looks like a heavy-duty dial for a form of combination
lock. If so, it is sixteen possible positions per dial (A-P),
or 16^3 possible combinations -- 4096.
961) Hmm ... perhaps something for placing around the neck of
livestock for leading them around?
962) At least *this* one I am sure about.
It is a tool for extracting the slide-base lamps from various
things -- originally the indicator lamps for old manual
switchboards, but later things (mostly in the phone company)
used the same lamps, and thus the same tool for extracting the
lamps.
For the switchboard lamps, there was a companion tool which
looked like a pair of needle-nose pliers, except that they had a
pair of ground off sections near the tips, which would look
something like this (assuming the handles are down and the tips
up):
/( )\
/ | | \
The angles would be sharper than shown, because I have only one
angle available in the ASCII characterset. :-) I've left off the
hinge and the handles, as well as some of the length of the
noses.
The function of this was to grip the metal bezel around the jewel
which covered the lamp and gave it color. This had to be pulled
before you could access the lamp, and while it was possible to
pull these bare-handed, the tool made it a lot easier. :-
I have examples of both of these, FWIW.
963) This looks like a part of an officer's ceremonial sword scabbard.
964) Totally just a guess -- but the groove bisecting most of them
suggests a human brain, which might suggest that these were used
as part of a burial ceremony.
Now off to see what others have said.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
>
> >
> > Guess for 959: Light box used to view gemstones. The gems are placed on
> > the horizontal glass plate. Light reflects off of the 45 degree mirror
> and
> > passes up through the gems. The gems are viewed with the magnifier that
> is
> > held over the glass plate.
> >
> > Carl G.
>
>
> You are correct in that it's a simple microscope with a glass plate and 45
> degree mirror but it wasn't marked as being for looking at gemstones, though
> I'm sure it could be used for that. It's probably more of a general purpose
> device, and was tagged "microscope slide viewer".
To be a slide viewer, it should have a frosted glass plate
somewhere in there. Just plain mirrors would let through artifacts of
the light source, unless it was diffused. I think that the jewel
examining tool might be the better description.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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According to DoN. Nichols <[email protected]>:
> According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
[ ... ]
> > You are correct in that it's a simple microscope with a glass plate and 45
> > degree mirror but it wasn't marked as being for looking at gemstones, though
> > I'm sure it could be used for that. It's probably more of a general purpose
> > device, and was tagged "microscope slide viewer".
>
> To be a slide viewer, it should have a frosted glass plate
> somewhere in there. Just plain mirrors would let through artifacts of
> the light source, unless it was diffused. I think that the jewel
> examining tool might be the better description.
Never mind -- I now see that you were referring to prepared
microscope sides, and I was thinking of 35mm film slides. :-)
It looks as though the magnification is about right for 35mm
film slides, based on the distance from the glass surface and the
relative simplicity of the lens assembly. The other shown in your
answers page looks like a much better piece of equipment.
Enjoy,
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"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>A new set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Google's Blogger switched my site from beta to "New Blogger", hopefully
> the
> change will be transparent, but if there are any problems or improvements
> that might be the cause. So let me know if you encounter any negative
> issues with the upgrade.
>
>
> Rob
Guess for 959: Light box used to view gemstones. The gems are placed on
the horizontal glass plate. Light reflects off of the 45 degree mirror and
passes up through the gems. The gems are viewed with the magnifier that is
held over the glass plate.
Carl G.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>My guess is that the stones are weights for fishing nets.
>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
> Yes, according to the owner they are net weights.
>
>
> Rob
>
>
huh, i woulda guessed "sculptures", but i went to art school.
i did a google search for "stone balls" and "stone spheres" the other day
and came across this (and others)....
http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/polyhedra/goc.htm
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146412410
http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/archaeology/special/balls.asp
http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/329stoneballs.html
i don't recall ever having seen them before. fascinating.
(somewhere i also saw a japanese webpage with what seemed like 3D
illustrations for the "platonic solids" thing from the first link above)
b.w.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>My guess is that the stones are weights for fishing nets.
>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
> Yes, according to the owner they are net weights.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are you sure, Rob? To me some of them look like gross weights and tare
weights.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:43:58 +0000, Bill Marrs wrote:
>> The rocks are stone hammer heads. My guess is that they were found in
>> Pennsylvania.
>
> Darn---you sure? My guess is that the stones are weights for fishing nets.
I was going to guess some kind of money, like "wampum", or petrified stale
bread. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
DT wrote:
>> 962 is for grasping indicator lamps in telephone etc. switchboards,
>> to remove and replace same. Oooooh, I got one (and I have one)!
>> /mark
>
>
> You guys had tools? We just used a piece of flexible tubing to slide over the
> lamp. Kept various sizes laying around the control room.
>
Why use something simple like tubing when you can buy a tool that must
have cost 100.00 or more? <grin> /mark
With the help of all the hints, perhaps 961 is/are used to hold the animals
still in a convenient pose for slaughter.
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>> 961) Hmm ... perhaps something for placing around the neck of
>> livestock for leading them around?
>
>
> Best guess so far, you're right about it being placed on the neck of an
> animal, but it's not for leading them around.
>
>
> Rob
>
>