The new Freud 2000 3 1/4 hp showed up today, and it leaves me with a
few questions.
While its intended home is the new nahm router station, and
I have two others for the occassional 1/4 bit I may use, how exactly
does one get the Freud 1/4 split(?), collet(?)... whatever they call
it -- into the machine. The directions seem to imply one slips it into
the regular collet, but it does not want to go.
also, it would appear there is a piece of plastic for dust collection,
but the book is silent on it.
Wing nuts. Wing nuts? Two wing nuts? Pray, tell, father, what are the
wing nuts for?
The instructions are also silent on the plastic shield for the bit,
though I suspect Freud realizes this machine is destined for table use
and hence the shield itself is of little use. After all, the screw
that holds it in place has a 'star' cut, and how many of us have those
tools lying around.
I look forward to the responses ..
If I had a really good sig file, this is where it would go ....
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:28:20 GMT, [email protected] (Larry
Levinson) wrote:
>The new Freud 2000 3 1/4 hp showed up today, and it leaves me with a
>few questions.
If you're going to use it freehand, first job is to find some clear
Perspex and make up a new baseplate. It's a big router, so the
standard baseplate has a huge hole in it, to swing big cutters. This
also makes it hard to use on small workpieces, because they tend to
"topple into the hole". Make yourself a new baseplate with a hole
just big enough for the cutters you use (plunge them down through it).
Watch out for cross-threading and stripping the baseplate screws that
also hold it into the table insert. Mine has bigger thread steel
insert bushes fitted.
>While its intended home is the new nahm router station, and
>I have two others for the occassional 1/4 bit I may use, how exactly
>does one get the Freud 1/4 split(?), collet(?)... whatever they call
>it -- into the machine.
You don't. If you look around (maybe Freud themselves) you can get
1/4" collets that fit directly. Height adjustment with the separate
adapter sleeve is a PITA.
If you still have an old Freud with the two-flat collet nut, ask their
service dept. nicely and they'll send you a hex one. Makes bit
changing much easier.
> The directions seem to imply one slips it into
>the regular collet, but it does not want to go.
The collet nut has some funny arrangement that pulls the collet open
(?) if you undo it far enough,. Anyway, the collet is impossibly tight
unless you open the nut right up (it goes tight again near the top).
>also, it would appear there is a piece of plastic for dust collection,
>but the book is silent on it.
It works very well, but it makes access a pain. I only use it for
freehand routing where I'm cutting a huge dado or something with lots
of chips. I'd never needed it in the table, but then my fence has a
vaccuum attachment.
>Wing nuts. Wing nuts? Two wing nuts? Pray, tell, father, what are the
>wing nuts for?
Cant remember. Maybe a circle guide ?
>The instructions are also silent on the plastic shield for the bit,
Plugs into a slot in the alloy base. Works quite well, but superfluous
with the dust collar.
>the screw
>that holds it in place has a 'star' cut, and how many of us have those
>tools lying around.
Torx ?
--
Smert' spamionam
thnks ... sent it to freud too. will post their response ... if any.
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:37:19 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:28:20 GMT, [email protected] (Larry
>Levinson) wrote:
>
>>The new Freud 2000 3 1/4 hp showed up today, and it leaves me with a
>>few questions.
>>
>>While its intended home is the new nahm router station,
>
>it's a kick ass table router.
>
>
>
>> and I have two others for the occassional 1/4 bit I may use, how exactly
>>does one get the Freud 1/4 split(?), collet(?)... whatever they call
>>it -- into the machine. The directions seem to imply one slips it into
>>the regular collet, but it does not want to go.
>
>I have the early model. on mine the collet adapter fits nicely in the
>collet and runs true.
>
>make sure the collet nut isn't tightened before you try to put it in.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>also, it would appear there is a piece of plastic for dust collection,
>>but the book is silent on it.
>
>must be something from the newer model. mine didn't have anything like
>that.
>
>
>
>>
>>Wing nuts. Wing nuts? Two wing nuts? Pray, tell, father, what are the
>>wing nuts for?
>>
>>The instructions are also silent on the plastic shield for the bit,
>>though I suspect Freud realizes this machine is destined for table use
>>and hence the shield itself is of little use. After all, the screw
>>that holds it in place has a 'star' cut, and how many of us have those
>>tools lying around.
>
>I'd prolly leave it off.
>
>
>
>>
>>I look forward to the responses ..
>
>
>I made a crank handle that fits over the depth adjuster knob. makes
>under the table adjustment a lot easier.
>
If I had a really good sig file, this is where it would go ....
In an effort to give you more for your money we started including an
actually 1/4" collet in the box. This is a $30 value that we included
at no extra charge. The manual does still feature the 1/4" adapter
that we previously were including. If you would prefer this adapter
we would be glad to exchange it with the collet. We choose not to
wait for the new manual that they are working on to include this item.
As for the dust collector it attaches with the template screws with
the included wing nuts and the longer screws. This also will be
covered in the new manual.
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:28:20 GMT, [email protected] (Larry
Levinson) wrote:
>The new Freud 2000 3 1/4 hp showed up today, and it leaves me with a
>few questions.
>
>While its intended home is the new nahm router station, and
>I have two others for the occassional 1/4 bit I may use, how exactly
>does one get the Freud 1/4 split(?), collet(?)... whatever they call
>it -- into the machine. The directions seem to imply one slips it into
>the regular collet, but it does not want to go.
>
>also, it would appear there is a piece of plastic for dust collection,
>but the book is silent on it.
>
>Wing nuts. Wing nuts? Two wing nuts? Pray, tell, father, what are the
>wing nuts for?
>
>The instructions are also silent on the plastic shield for the bit,
>though I suspect Freud realizes this machine is destined for table use
>and hence the shield itself is of little use. After all, the screw
>that holds it in place has a 'star' cut, and how many of us have those
>tools lying around.
>
>I look forward to the responses ..
>
>
>If I had a really good sig file, this is where it would go ....
If I had a really good sig file, this is where it would go ....
[email protected] (Larry Levinson) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The new Freud 2000 3 1/4 hp showed up today, and it leaves me with a
> few questions.
After I got my Freud router, and used it to cut dados in some 3/4 cabinet
grade plywood, I took a shower, washed my clothing, and ordered a PC 690 to
use by hand. And built a table for the Freud, where it resides today. I
have no intention of using that beast handheld again.
But I use it in the table all of the time, and gladly so.
I threw the 1/4" sleeve thingie in a box in the back of a dusty shelf
somewhere, and turn small shank bits with a smaller router. The power of
the Freud encourages the agressive cutting that small shanks really aren't
up to, when working as I often do, with oak and maple.
You needs may vary. Enjoy your new tool. Make haste slowly.
Patriarch
[email protected] (Larry Levinson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> thnks ... sent it to freud too. will post their response ... if any.
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:37:19 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:28:20 GMT, [email protected] (Larry
> >Levinson) wrote:
> >
> >>The new Freud 2000 3 1/4 hp showed up today, and it leaves me with a
> >>few questions.
> >>
> >>While its intended home is the new nahm router station,
> >
> >it's a kick ass table router.
> >
> >
> >
> >> and I have two others for the occassional 1/4 bit I may use, how exactly
> >>does one get the Freud 1/4 split(?), collet(?)... whatever they call
> >>it -- into the machine. The directions seem to imply one slips it into
> >>the regular collet, but it does not want to go.
> >
> >I have the early model. on mine the collet adapter fits nicely in the
> >collet and runs true.
> >
> >make sure the collet nut isn't tightened before you try to put it in.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>also, it would appear there is a piece of plastic for dust collection,
> >>but the book is silent on it.
> >
> >must be something from the newer model. mine didn't have anything like
> >that.
Barry,
The 1/4" collet reducer sleeve slips into the normal 1/2" collet. Drop
a cutter in and tighten. The shield is a chip deflector for hand held
use. The dust extraction cowl can be used in the table and does work.
Bit awkward to fit although. Mail me if you want pictures.
Rgds
Noel
noel dot hegan at virgin dot net
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:28:20 GMT, [email protected] (Larry
Levinson) wrote:
>The new Freud 2000 3 1/4 hp showed up today, and it leaves me with a
>few questions.
>
>While its intended home is the new nahm router station,
it's a kick ass table router.
> and I have two others for the occassional 1/4 bit I may use, how exactly
>does one get the Freud 1/4 split(?), collet(?)... whatever they call
>it -- into the machine. The directions seem to imply one slips it into
>the regular collet, but it does not want to go.
I have the early model. on mine the collet adapter fits nicely in the
collet and runs true.
make sure the collet nut isn't tightened before you try to put it in.
>
>also, it would appear there is a piece of plastic for dust collection,
>but the book is silent on it.
must be something from the newer model. mine didn't have anything like
that.
>
>Wing nuts. Wing nuts? Two wing nuts? Pray, tell, father, what are the
>wing nuts for?
>
>The instructions are also silent on the plastic shield for the bit,
>though I suspect Freud realizes this machine is destined for table use
>and hence the shield itself is of little use. After all, the screw
>that holds it in place has a 'star' cut, and how many of us have those
>tools lying around.
I'd prolly leave it off.
>
>I look forward to the responses ..
I made a crank handle that fits over the depth adjuster knob. makes
under the table adjustment a lot easier.