GL

"Guy LaRochelle"

09/12/2003 12:04 AM

New table saw preperation?

Hi,

I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an oil
or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect it
from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor wax
to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy


This topic has 16 replies

CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

10/12/2003 2:34 AM

Silvan wrote:
> Chris Merrill wrote:
>>I could be wrong here...but I think any wax will affect the penetration
>>of stain -- silicone-free or not.
>
> If you get wax on the wood, yes, but you shouldn't. I and probably millions
> of others use paste wax on my table saw. I use it on my hand planes,
> chisels, drill press table, vise jaws, workbench top, and router table too.
> I've never had any problem with wax getting in the way of stains or
> finishes.

I agree...I wax everything, too.

I was just pointing out that any wax will have the same effect
on stain penetration.

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[email protected] (Daniel Martin)

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 4:57 AM

What did you get I'm about to change my 25 year old Rockwell/beaver.

For grease removal on my other tools I used naphta fuel. It worked
very well, not sure if others will support this btu comments are
welcome. For the wax covering this is good idea however there are
other alternatives. Bostick makes an aerosol spray for this purpose
available from Lee Valley. They also have one for saw blades that is
suppose to keep resin build up off. Based on what your book says I
would guess that you have a Delta unisaw.

Daniel Martin

"Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi,
>
> I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an oil
> or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect it
> from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor wax
> to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

10/12/2003 2:46 AM

I know Lowes, HD and Walmart has it. It is a general purpose wax.
Comes in a yellow can for about $6.. I use it on many furniture
pieces as well. You can order it online too. There's a rumour that
it was discontinued, but that's false.

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:21:13 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Where do you get Johnson's paste wax? What is it's intended
>use................is it a floor wax? Regards. -Guy
>
>
>"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:04:04 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an
>oil
>> >or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect
>it
>> >from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor
>wax
>> >to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
>> >
>>
>> The book is correct. I used a roll of paper towels to clean off the
>> gunk. Johnson's paste wax is my favorite.
>>
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 7:15 PM

Chris Merrill wrote:

> Secret Squirrel wrote:
>> Yes.. if you use a silicon based wax. The general recoomendation is to
>> use a paste wax like johnson's which does not cause these problems.
>
> I could be wrong here...but I think any wax will affect the penetration
> of stain -- silicone-free or not.

If you get wax on the wood, yes, but you shouldn't. I and probably millions
of others use paste wax on my table saw. I use it on my hand planes,
chisels, drill press table, vise jaws, workbench top, and router table too.
I've never had any problem with wax getting in the way of stains or
finishes.

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CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 3:48 PM

Secret Squirrel wrote:
> Yes.. if you use a silicon based wax. The general recoomendation is to
> use a paste wax like johnson's which does not cause these problems.

I could be wrong here...but I think any wax will affect the penetration
of stain -- silicone-free or not.

Silicone-free wax is recommended because the silicone will degrade the
adherence of most film finishes...potentially causing it to crack or
peel off.

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EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 11:12 AM



"Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an oil
> or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect
it
> from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor
wax
> to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
>

If you don't have kero, use lamp oil. Wax is good, but I get better results
from Top Cote.
Ed

Bb

"BeerBoy"

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

10/12/2003 3:22 AM

Hey Guy,
I see your internet address is sasktel so I assume your a Canuck. If so,
you can't get Johnson's Paste Wax in Canada. It has been discontinued in
Canada. I use MinWax paste wax or TopCote. The Minwax is available at most
hardware stores that carry Minwax finishes and usually in the same section.
Canadian Tire and Rona-Revy will have it.
---BeerBoy

"Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Where do you get Johnson's paste wax? What is it's intended
> use................is it a floor wax? Regards. -Guy
>
>
> "Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:04:04 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an
> oil
> > >or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and
protect
> it
> > >from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste
floor
> wax
> > >to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
> > >
> >
> > The book is correct. I used a roll of paper towels to clean off the
> > gunk. Johnson's paste wax is my favorite.
> >
>
>

SS

Secret Squirrel

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 9:04 AM

"John Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Ok, this is probably going to sound very newbe-ish (I have a RAS saw
> with a melamine top, so I've never encountered this problem
> personally), but if you put wax on the top, don't you run the risk
> that the wax will be absorbed by whatever you're cutting, and effect
> how the wood takes on new stain?
>
>
> John
>
>
> "Daniel Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> What did you get I'm about to change my 25 year old Rockwell/beaver.
>>
>> For grease removal on my other tools I used naphta fuel. It worked
>> very well, not sure if others will support this btu comments are
>> welcome. For the wax covering this is good idea however there are
>> other alternatives. Bostick makes an aerosol spray for this purpose
>> available from Lee Valley. They also have one for saw blades that is
>> suppose to keep resin build up off. Based on what your book says I
>> would guess that you have a Delta unisaw.
>>
>> Daniel Martin
>>
>> "Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got
>> > an
> oil
>> > or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and
> protect it
>> > from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste
>> > floor
> wax
>> > to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
>
>
>

Yes.. if you use a silicon based wax. The general recoomendation is to
use a paste wax like johnson's which does not cause these problems.

JS

"John Smith"

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 9:27 AM

Ok, this is probably going to sound very newbe-ish (I have a RAS saw with a
melamine top, so I've never encountered this problem personally), but if you
put wax on the top, don't you run the risk that the wax will be absorbed by
whatever you're cutting, and effect how the wood takes on new stain?


John


"Daniel Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What did you get I'm about to change my 25 year old Rockwell/beaver.
>
> For grease removal on my other tools I used naphta fuel. It worked
> very well, not sure if others will support this btu comments are
> welcome. For the wax covering this is good idea however there are
> other alternatives. Bostick makes an aerosol spray for this purpose
> available from Lee Valley. They also have one for saw blades that is
> suppose to keep resin build up off. Based on what your book says I
> would guess that you have a Delta unisaw.
>
> Daniel Martin
>
> "Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an
oil
> > or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and
protect it
> > from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor
wax
> > to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 4:12 PM

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:04:04 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an oil
>or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect it
>from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor wax
>to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
>

The book is correct. I used a roll of paper towels to clean off the
gunk. Johnson's paste wax is my favorite.

Bb

"BeerBoy"

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

10/12/2003 5:09 PM

Minwax was all I could find at the time. I searched all over for Johnson's
before finding out it was discontinued and then someone recommended the
Minwax. I use it for finishing but for my tabletops I just use TopCote.
It's quick and easy and I have never had any corrosion problems yet. Nice
and slippery, too.

"Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> BeerBoy,
>
> Yes, I am from Saskatchewan, Canada. Thanks for the info..............much
> appreciated. I'll check with Home Depot or Canadian Tire. Is this good wax
> or is there better? Regards. -Guy
>
>
>
> "BeerBoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:OjwBb.631897$9l5.627663@pd7tw2no...
> > Hey Guy,
> > I see your internet address is sasktel so I assume your a Canuck. If
so,
> > you can't get Johnson's Paste Wax in Canada. It has been discontinued
in
> > Canada. I use MinWax paste wax or TopCote. The Minwax is available at
> most
> > hardware stores that carry Minwax finishes and usually in the same
> section.
> > Canadian Tire and Rona-Revy will have it.
> > ---BeerBoy
> >
> > "Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Where do you get Johnson's paste wax? What is it's intended
> > > use................is it a floor wax? Regards. -Guy
> > >
> > >
> > > "Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:04:04 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got
> an
> > > oil
> > > > >or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and
> > protect
> > > it
> > > > >from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste
> > floor
> > > wax
> > > > >to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The book is correct. I used a roll of paper towels to clean off the
> > > > gunk. Johnson's paste wax is my favorite.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 4:33 PM

kerosene, WD-40 or mineral spirits to clean it off.

SC Johnson's paste wax (no silicones) to protect it unless you live in a
extremely high humidity area. I use that, then for a super slick
surface I spray EZ Glide over the top of the buffed up wax. It's like
having a cushion of air!

dave

Guy LaRochelle wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an oil
> or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect it
> from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor wax
> to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
>
>

JK

Jim K

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

10/12/2003 12:59 AM

kerosene and paste wax. I now use WD-40 and scouring pads after my
initial cleaning.

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:04:04 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an oil
>or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect it
>from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor wax
>to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
>

GL

"Guy LaRochelle"

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 7:19 PM

Daniel,

Yes I did get a Unisaw. Is this Bostick any good? I know I can get that
stuff locally. Regards. -Guy



"Daniel Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What did you get I'm about to change my 25 year old Rockwell/beaver.
>
> For grease removal on my other tools I used naphta fuel. It worked
> very well, not sure if others will support this btu comments are
> welcome. For the wax covering this is good idea however there are
> other alternatives. Bostick makes an aerosol spray for this purpose
> available from Lee Valley. They also have one for saw blades that is
> suppose to keep resin build up off. Based on what your book says I
> would guess that you have a Delta unisaw.
>
> Daniel Martin
>
> "Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an
oil
> > or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and
protect it
> > from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor
wax
> > to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy

GL

"Guy LaRochelle"

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 7:21 PM

Where do you get Johnson's paste wax? What is it's intended
use................is it a floor wax? Regards. -Guy


"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:04:04 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got an
oil
> >or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and protect
it
> >from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste floor
wax
> >to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
> >
>
> The book is correct. I used a roll of paper towels to clean off the
> gunk. Johnson's paste wax is my favorite.
>

GL

"Guy LaRochelle"

in reply to "Guy LaRochelle" on 09/12/2003 12:04 AM

09/12/2003 10:00 PM

BeerBoy,

Yes, I am from Saskatchewan, Canada. Thanks for the info..............much
appreciated. I'll check with Home Depot or Canadian Tire. Is this good wax
or is there better? Regards. -Guy



"BeerBoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:OjwBb.631897$9l5.627663@pd7tw2no...
> Hey Guy,
> I see your internet address is sasktel so I assume your a Canuck. If so,
> you can't get Johnson's Paste Wax in Canada. It has been discontinued in
> Canada. I use MinWax paste wax or TopCote. The Minwax is available at
most
> hardware stores that carry Minwax finishes and usually in the same
section.
> Canadian Tire and Rona-Revy will have it.
> ---BeerBoy
>
> "Guy LaRochelle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Where do you get Johnson's paste wax? What is it's intended
> > use................is it a floor wax? Regards. -Guy
> >
> >
> > "Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:04:04 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I just got my new Unisaw...............nice!!!!! The table has got
an
> > oil
> > > >or grease film on it. What should a person do to clean it off and
> protect
> > it
> > > >from rust? The book says to use kerosene to clean and then a paste
> floor
> > wax
> > > >to protect it. What is everyone using? Regards. -Guy
> > > >
> > >
> > > The book is correct. I used a roll of paper towels to clean off the
> > > gunk. Johnson's paste wax is my favorite.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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