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07/12/2004 4:38 PM

Saw blade cleaners

Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
$11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
(all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
variations?

Al Hoffmann


This topic has 18 replies

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loutent

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

07/12/2004 7:43 PM

Hi Al,

I use Easy-Off (oven cleaner). Works in
5 minutes.

Gotta be careful tho (sodium hydroxide).

Also, erases blade labeling :-(.

Lou

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
> which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
> cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
> seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
> internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
> called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
> be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
> $11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
> (all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
> experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
> variations?
>
> Al Hoffmann
>

Wx

"Woodcrafter"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 4:09 PM

I use Simple Green concentrate in a srpay bottle. Spray some on, wait a few
minutes and use an old toothbrush to clean off pitch/resin.
Seems to work well, and is cheap as chips. A half liter bottle will probably
last me at least 25-30 cleanings :)

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"George"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 7:48 AM

Standard surfactants work just fine. From washing soda through Simple
Green, they'll all soak off organic deposits. My personal favorite is the
cheap "TSP 90" - which is not Tri-Sodium Phosphate. Trisodium Phosphate was
a far superior cleaner, but it was a fertilizer of great potency, and had to
be taken off the market because people put it down the drain, rather than on
the lawn.

Since it's available in high concentration, it's more convenient for me,
Though I believe it's sodium sulfate based like most other stuff. Paint and
wallpaper aisle.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
> which have quite a bit of varnish on them.

JB

Jim Behning

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 4:37 AM

Ammonia in a pizza pan. If you smell some of the commercial cleaning
agents you will smell ammonia.

[email protected] wrote:

>Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
>which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
>cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
>seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
>internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
>called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
>be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
>$11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
>(all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
>experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
>variations?
>
>Al Hoffmann

BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 2:24 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
> which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
> cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
> seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
> internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
> called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
> be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
> $11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
> (all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
> experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
> variations?
>
> Al Hoffmann

Al:
I use the CMT Orange cleaner and it works well, if a bit slowly. You may
need several apps to get all the varnish off. I've also used oven cleaner,
which is faster and nastier and very effective.

Bob
>

DS

"Dick Snyder"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

07/12/2004 10:36 PM

In the October 2004 issue of Wood magazine they reviewed a number of saw
blade cleaners. Without going into the entire article here, the best they
found was Empire Blade Saver (www.empiremfg.com). I bought some on Amazon I
think and it was excellent.

Dick Snyder
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
> which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
> cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
> seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
> internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
> called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
> be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
> $11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
> (all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
> experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
> variations?
>
> Al Hoffmann
>


sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 12:51 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents?
>
Naaah. Not the purpose-made ones, anyway.

Arm & Hammer Washing Soda. About 1/4 cup to a quart of warm water in a
dishpan. Lay the saw blade down in it, allow to soak for five minutes, and
wipe the gunk off.

Fast.
Easy.
Cheap.
Environmentally benign.

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"Rumpty"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

07/12/2004 11:20 PM

The CMT works well, 5 minutes and the blade is spotless.

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"Dick Snyder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the October 2004 issue of Wood magazine they reviewed a number of saw
> blade cleaners. Without going into the entire article here, the best they
> found was Empire Blade Saver (www.empiremfg.com). I bought some on Amazon
I
> think and it was excellent.
>
> Dick Snyder
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
> > which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
> > cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
> > seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
> > internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
> > called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
> > be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
> > $11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
> > (all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
> > experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
> > variations?
> >
> > Al Hoffmann
> >
>
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 4:41 AM


"Dick Snyder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the October 2004 issue of Wood magazine they reviewed a number of saw
> blade cleaners. Without going into the entire article here, the best they
> found was Empire Blade Saver (www.empiremfg.com). I bought some on Amazon
> I
> think and it was excellent.

Ahhh..the originaly makers of TopCote.

Rg

RKG

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

07/12/2004 9:49 PM

RKG wrote:
> Phisherman wrote:
>
>> On 7 Dec 2004 16:38:55 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
>>> which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
>>> cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
>>> seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
>>> internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
>>> called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
>>> be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
>>> $11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
>>> (all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
>>> experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
>>> variations?
>>>
>>> Al Hoffmann
>>
>>
>>
>> Mineral spirits will clean them up reasonably well. Sometimes I put a
>> blade in a round plastic oil pan, take it outside, spray with oven
>> cleaner, then rinse off 20 minutes later. Oven cleaner is 98 cents a
>> can and lasts many years.
>
>
>
> Be carefull with oven cleaner at least one blade manufacturer (I believe
> it was Freud) said it reacts with the weld that holds the carbide tip
> on. Don't need to weaken that and have one of those come off and hit
> you between the eyes.
>
> Rick


Found the article where this is mentioned
http://www.newwoodworker.com/clnblades.html

about half way down.

Rick

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 12:49 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Dick Snyder" <[email protected]> wrote:
>In the October 2004 issue of Wood magazine they reviewed a number of saw
>blade cleaners. Without going into the entire article here, the best they
>found was Empire Blade Saver (www.empiremfg.com). I bought some on Amazon I
>think and it was excellent.

They didn't test washing soda, though... It works so well, and so fast, that
it's impossible for me to imagine that any commercial cleaner could do a
better job. A quarter-cup will mix up enough solution to clean several blades,
and, at about $2.25 a box, that quarter-cup might cost all of ten or fifteen
cents.

I clean my bandsaw blades that way, too. It's cool to watch: drop a coiled
blade into a pan of washing soda solution, and there's a dark ring of
dissolved goo visible in the water before the blade even hits the bottom of
the pan.

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"Dick Snyder"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 5:00 PM

(I tried to send this message once but it didn't seem to make to my news
server anyway - if any of you get this twice I apologize).

In the October 2004 issue of Wood magazine they reviewed a number of saw
blade cleaners. Without going into the entire article here, the best they
found was Empire Blade Saver (www.empiremfg.com). I bought some on Amazon I
think and it was excellent.

Dick Snyder

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
> which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
> cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
> seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
> internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
> called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
> be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
> $11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
> (all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
> experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
> variations?
>
> Al Hoffmann
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 1:07 AM

On 7 Dec 2004 16:38:55 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
>which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
>cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
>seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
>internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
>called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
>be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
>$11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
>(all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
>experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
>variations?
>
>Al Hoffmann

Mineral spirits will clean them up reasonably well. Sometimes I put a
blade in a round plastic oil pan, take it outside, spray with oven
cleaner, then rinse off 20 minutes later. Oven cleaner is 98 cents a
can and lasts many years.

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 8:41 PM

I get good results with simple, less exotic cleaners like Fantastic,
Formula 409, or Simple Green. The lid from a plastic 5 gal pail is a
good size for a 10" sawblade. Soak the lid for 30 - 60 minutes, then
use a toothbrush or brass wire brush, and the gunk will come right
off. DO NOT soak overnight. DAMHIKT, but there will be little black &
brown spots on the blade that don't wash off. Fortunately they don't
affect anything but appearance. Also, expect any labeling on the blade
to be removed.


--

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 4:39 AM

I use It and it works great. Fast. I pay 9.99 at Woodworkers hardware.
I like it because it is designed for this purpose and leaves a protective
coating on your tools. Works fast also.. Generally I spray it on and
immediately rub with a brass wire brush and the pitch is gone.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
> which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
> cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
> seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
> internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
> called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
> be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
> $11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
> (all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
> experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
> variations?
>
> Al Hoffmann
>

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 6:55 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades

Simple Green. And unlike Wood Magazine, mine are clean in minutes.

Rg

RKG

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

07/12/2004 9:45 PM

Phisherman wrote:
> On 7 Dec 2004 16:38:55 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents? I have a number of saw blades
>>which have quite a bit of varnish on them. I thought I would get some
>>cleaners to clean them up before I send them out for sharpening. I have
>>seen some reference to a cleaner called "CMT" so I searched the
>>internet for a source and was directed to the CMT website for a cleaner
>>called CMT2050. It comes in a 18oz can for $8.99/can. It is supposed to
>>be non-toxic. I was amazed to also find out that the same can cost
>>$11.90 at Cheyenne Sales and an amazing $17.01 at Wood Tech Enterprises
>>(all sources recommeded by a woodworking link). Has anyone some
>>experience with this stuff? Have you also run into these large cost
>>variations?
>>
>>Al Hoffmann
>
>
> Mineral spirits will clean them up reasonably well. Sometimes I put a
> blade in a round plastic oil pan, take it outside, spray with oven
> cleaner, then rinse off 20 minutes later. Oven cleaner is 98 cents a
> can and lasts many years.


Be carefull with oven cleaner at least one blade manufacturer (I believe
it was Freud) said it reacts with the weld that holds the carbide tip
on. Don't need to weaken that and have one of those come off and hit
you between the eyes.

Rick

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to [email protected] on 07/12/2004 4:38 PM

08/12/2004 11:39 AM

On 7 Dec 2004 16:38:55 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Anyone using saw blade cleaning agents?

I use Arm & Hammer washing soda from the grocery store laundry
aisle.

I've also used citrus cleaner, Simple Green, kerosene, EZ-Off, and
WD-40.

Washing soda works great, is safe for you and the blades, cheap, and
easy to get.

Barry


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