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Electric Comet

01/11/2017 6:38 PM

shop paint choice


thinking just white paint as it reflects the most light

but flat or semi or gloss


looking for the best coating that will resist collecting dust and will
blow off and thinking gloss would be best for that









This topic has 58 replies

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

03/11/2017 9:21 AM

On 11/3/2017 2:18 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> From what I read, we should all be painting the shop orange. I'm on
>> my
>> way to the paint store now. May be good in the bedroom too, if you
>> know what I mean!
>>
>> Orange evokes excitement and enthusiasm, and is an energetic color.
>> While not a good idea for a living room or for bedrooms, this color is
>> great for an exercise room; it will bring out all the emotions that
>> you need released during your fitness routine. In ancient cultures,
>> orange was believed to heal the lungs and increase energy levels.
>
> I know you're joking, but have you ever gone into a Home Depot bathroom
> done up in Home Depot orange? It's an experience...
>
> Puckdropper
>

The abundance of orange at HD is why I prefer Lowe's, everything else
being more or less equal.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 2:45 PM

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 8:14:06 AM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
> replying to Electric Comet, Iggy wrote:
> Semi-gloss or gloss is the most durable and will reject scuff marks. Though,
> white can be a bit sterile and unnatural for staining or refinishing, unless
> the rest of the house is white. Here's a great little article on how color can
> effect your work and your mood or rate of success with projects
> https://freshome.com/room-color-and-how-it-affects-your-mood/
>

Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

rr

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 10:17 PM

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 10:00:47 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>
> ha right i have already planned to swing by the paint shops and ask for
> anything they mixed that was not sold
>
> will not be pure white but if it is close to white and cheap

Agree those are the most important criteria. CHEAP and white or darn close to white. Gloss, semi, flat, and what type of white, is like talking about millimeters when you have miles to walk.

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 9:28 PM

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 20:10:14 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:54:41 -0700 (PDT)
>DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Panel the shop with a high gloss white paneling. Oh wait, you are
>
>wish i could get that white stuff they put on the roof of atlanta falcons
>dome

Why? The stuff leaks like hell.
>
>never needs cleaning
>it is formulated so nothing sticks to it

But ruins everything below.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

03/11/2017 6:18 AM

Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> From what I read, we should all be painting the shop orange. I'm on
> my
> way to the paint store now. May be good in the bedroom too, if you
> know what I mean!
>
> Orange evokes excitement and enthusiasm, and is an energetic color.
> While not a good idea for a living room or for bedrooms, this color is
> great for an exercise room; it will bring out all the emotions that
> you need released during your fitness routine. In ancient cultures,
> orange was believed to heal the lungs and increase energy levels.

I know you're joking, but have you ever gone into a Home Depot bathroom
done up in Home Depot orange? It's an experience...

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

k

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

03/11/2017 10:43 PM

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:00:43 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 21:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes white paint. My basement walls and floors are painted white.
>> The shop. Flat, semi, gloss? Cheap and sold in 5 gallon buckets is
>> the key.
>
>ha right i have already planned to swing by the paint shops and ask for
>anything they mixed that was not sold
>
>will not be pure white but if it is close to white and cheap
>
It won't even be close to white. More like a dirty brown. The dump
where I used to live collected used paint and mixed it in large
batches for Habitat.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 2:49 PM

Iggy <[email protected]> writes:
>replying to Electric Comet, Iggy wrote:
>Semi-gloss or gloss is the most durable and will reject scuff marks. Though,
>white can be a bit sterile and unnatural for staining or refinishing, unless
>the rest of the house is white. Here's a great little article on how color can
>effect your work and your mood or rate of success with projects
>https://freshome.com/room-color-and-how-it-affects-your-mood/

None of that applies to the orignal question which was what color
to use in a woodworking workshop. White is the appropriate answer,
in conjunction with natural light, or with artifical light at circa
5000K color temperature.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 2:49 PM

02/11/2017 2:45 PM

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:14:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
> replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
> I disagree and so do your eyes. If your house isn't white and brilliant bright
> inside, a staining project will look completely different than it did in the
> shop. That's why photographers use different lighting and colors to change the
> tone of anything. Going to an orange, yellow, light blue or light green will
> not only improve the feel of the shop but will lend some softness to the
> project's look, while reflecting almost the same amount of light as white.
>

Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

rr

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 2:49 PM

02/11/2017 10:10 PM

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 7:23:40 PM UTC-5, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 12:52:42 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>=20
> > On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
> >> replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
> >> Going to an orange, yellow, light blue or light green will not only
> >> improve the feel of the shop but will lend some softness to the
> >> project's look, while reflecting almost the same amount of light as
> >> white.
> >>
> >>
> > .. White is the top. And black is the bottom. Every other color is
> > between those extremes. Its less bright than white, and brighter than
> > black.
>=20
> Wow! Thanks for sharing, David Duke ... white supremacy much? smh
>=20

This is my full post.

"The claim about reflecting almost the same amount of light as white. Whit=
e is the brightest color. Yellow is bright too. But not as bright. White=
is the top. And black is the bottom. Every other color is between those =
extremes. Its less bright than white, and brighter than black."

I am pretty sure anyone reading it will easily understand I am talking abou=
t the brightness of colors. Not human races. Just like anyone reading a w=
oodworking forum will understand that when "teeth" are mentioned, it is in =
reference to teeth on a saw blade. Not teeth worked on by a dentist.

c

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 2:49 PM

03/11/2017 10:20 PM

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 22:10:10 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 7:23:40 PM UTC-5, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 12:52:42 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
>> >> replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
>> >> Going to an orange, yellow, light blue or light green will not only
>> >> improve the feel of the shop but will lend some softness to the
>> >> project's look, while reflecting almost the same amount of light as
>> >> white.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > .. White is the top. And black is the bottom. Every other color is
>> > between those extremes. Its less bright than white, and brighter than
>> > black.
>>
>> Wow! Thanks for sharing, David Duke ... white supremacy much? smh
>>
>
>This is my full post.
>
>"The claim about reflecting almost the same amount of light as white. White is the brightest color. Yellow is bright too. But not as bright. White is the top. And black is the bottom. Every other color is between those extremes. Its less bright than white, and brighter than black."
>
>I am pretty sure anyone reading it will easily understand I am talking about the brightness of colors. Not human races. Just like anyone reading a woodworking forum will understand that when "teeth" are mentioned, it is in reference to teeth on a saw blade. Not teeth worked on by a dentist.



Not Lincoln's wooden dentures???

rr

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 2:49 PM

02/11/2017 12:52 PM

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
> replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
> Going to an orange, yellow, light blue or light green will
> not only improve the feel of the shop but will lend some softness to the
> project's look, while reflecting almost the same amount of light as white=
.
>

You will have to provide a whole lot of proof for that claim. The claim ab=
out reflecting almost the same amount of light as white. White is the brig=
htest color. Yellow is bright too. But not as bright. White is the top. =
And black is the bottom. Every other color is between those extremes. It=
s less bright than white, and brighter than black.

Mm

Markem

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 8:28 PM

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
>> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
>> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
>> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
>> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
>> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
>> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>>
>
>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

Line the damn shop in reflective mylar you will get great use of your
shop lights! ;>

c

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 11:16 PM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:33:37 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:22:10 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:28:55 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>>>>> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
>>>>> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
>>>>> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
>>>>> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
>>>>> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
>>>>> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
>>>>> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?
>>>
>>>Line the damn shop in reflective mylar you will get great use of your
>>>shop lights! ;>
>> My brother lined his whole shop with bright galvanized sheet steel
>>roofing.
>
>White paint is more reflective than either.
That depends a bit on the wavelength and the white pigment used - and
a silver mirror reflects a LOT more light than white does.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

03/11/2017 12:40 PM

DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> writes:
>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
>> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
>> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
>> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
>> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
>> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
>> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>>
>
>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?
>

He's using those leeches at home moaners hub as an interface. THey don't include
context so they can drive traffic to their adverts.

c

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 10:22 PM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:28:55 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>>> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
>>> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
>>> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
>>> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
>>> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
>>> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
>>> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>>>
>>
>>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?
>
>Line the damn shop in reflective mylar you will get great use of your
>shop lights! ;>
My brother lined his whole shop with bright galvanized sheet steel
roofing.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 2:44 PM

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>

Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 02/11/2017 2:44 PM

02/11/2017 5:35 PM

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 8:14:05 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
> replying to DerbyDad03, Iggy wrote:
> Because Russell only responded to me once, if you can't track that it ain't me
> that's the problem. Additionally, I don't use newsgroup crap since the
> "wonders" of the web list things both chronologically and usually beneath what
> whomever's responding to. Staying stuck in the 90's is a choice, I chose not
> to by 1995.
>

Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 02/11/2017 2:44 PM

03/11/2017 9:09 AM

On 11/2/2017 9:34 PM, Markem wrote:

>
> A newsreader does a fine job of doing the thing you speak of there. It
> will not also spam Home Owners hub url. They get free content, so do
> they sell premium subscribtions for stuff that you a can get rather
> cheaply (I pay $2.99 a month to Giganews). You like what you got no
> reason to trash pthers choices.
>

I used Gignews for a couple of years and it was good for $36 a year.
Then someone told me about blocknews.net For $3.99 you can buy 10GB
that will last a very long time. So far I've used 0.35381 gigs in
months. It works well and is dirt cheap.

Ic

Iggy

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 02/11/2017 2:44 PM

03/11/2017 12:14 AM

replying to DerbyDad03, Iggy wrote:
Because Russell only responded to me once, if you can't track that it ain't me
that's the problem. Additionally, I don't use newsgroup crap since the
"wonders" of the web list things both chronologically and usually beneath what
whomever's responding to. Staying stuck in the 90's is a choice, I chose not
to by 1995.

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/shop-paint-choice-811821-.htm

Mm

Markem

in reply to DerbyDad03 on 02/11/2017 2:44 PM

02/11/2017 8:34 PM

On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 00:14:02 GMT, Iggy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>replying to DerbyDad03, Iggy wrote:
>Because Russell only responded to me once, if you can't track that it ain't me
>that's the problem. Additionally, I don't use newsgroup crap since the
>"wonders" of the web list things both chronologically and usually beneath what
>whomever's responding to. Staying stuck in the 90's is a choice, I chose not
>to by 1995.

That is rather snobish Iggy.

A newsreader does a fine job of doing the thing you speak of there. It
will not also spam Home Owners hub url. They get free content, so do
they sell premium subscribtions for stuff that you a can get rather
cheaply (I pay $2.99 a month to Giganews). You like what you got no
reason to trash pthers choices.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Markem on 02/11/2017 8:34 PM

03/11/2017 9:15 AM

On 11/3/2017 8:14 AM, Iggy wrote:

>>
> And why shouldn't HOH make money, any interactive website's a lot of work.
> They're doing the work that all newsgroups were and are still too dumb and
> lazy to do. 30-years of newsgroups and it's the same old rotary phone? I
> wouldn't be surprised to find out most of the users still use CRT's,
> Floppies
> and 4800-baud modems.
>

That interactive web site is stealing the post we make so they can
profit. Do you think that is ethical?

I don't see where they enhanced anything, just tke the work of others
and exploit it. They are making money off of you too since you are
adding content. Homeownershub is just sleazy and you think it is ok.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 5:18 PM

Iggy <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt! Blame your
> family tree and everyone else's for allowing and promoting a more and
> more idiotic world and then any current abject moron who was stupid
> enough to have kids.
>

The airplane I'm going to go fly is even older. Still solves the problem
it was built to solve and does it rather efficiently.

Well... just got a text--too windy. Guess I'm not going flying. :-(

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

04/11/2017 6:24 AM

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> What bird you got??

Cessna 152. Neat little airplane, even if you do fly it with the seat of
your pants on the floor. :-)

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

04/11/2017 3:56 PM

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 04 Nov 2017 06:24:54 GMT, Puckdropper
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Cessna 152. Neat little airplane, even if you do fly it with the seat
>>of your pants on the floor. :-)
>>
>>Puckdropper
> Friend just bought a very early 152 - another friend has a '46
> Aer-Coupe. Another has an ex military Cub.
>
> Nice planes. Hope to have the Pegazair 100 in the air by this time
> next year.
>

Sounds like fun. I've flown a 172 and 152, the flight school is getting
a new plane--a Piper Archer I think. You get to fly a lot of different
planes when you rent.

I've thought about buying a used one after I get my PPL and selling
later. That first year I'm going to want to really explore and fly, I'm
sure. Depreciation, hanger fees, maintenance, etc may be on par with
rental costs, and if that's true then I gain the benefits of having a
plane ready to go when I'm ready.

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 3:20 PM

On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 11:44:18 AM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
> replying to Ed Pawlowski, Iggy wrote:
> Ever heard of Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, the car
> manufacturers that you advertise for daily, the clothing maker's logos you
> freely display wherever you go, _*ETCETERA*_?
> >
> You put it out there for free and for anyone and everyone to do what they want
> with it and then you whine and complain how you didn't think of it first.
> Sorry Ed, but you keep re-hashing a ridiculous NON-argument!
> >
> Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt! Blame your family
> tree and everyone else's for allowing and promoting a more and more idiotic
> world and then any current abject moron who was stupid enough to have kids.

Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

nn

notbob

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 4:52 PM

On 2017-11-03, Iggy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt!

Yet, you're still here. Why?.

nb

Ic

Iggy

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 3:44 PM

replying to Ed Pawlowski, Iggy wrote:
Ever heard of Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, the car
manufacturers that you advertise for daily, the clothing maker's logos you
freely display wherever you go, _*ETCETERA*_?
>
You put it out there for free and for anyone and everyone to do what they want
with it and then you whine and complain how you didn't think of it first.
Sorry Ed, but you keep re-hashing a ridiculous NON-argument!
>
Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt! Blame your family
tree and everyone else's for allowing and promoting a more and more idiotic
world and then any current abject moron who was stupid enough to have kids.

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/shop-paint-choice-811821-.htm

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 12:02 PM

On 11/3/2017 11:44 AM, Iggy wrote:
> replying to Ed Pawlowski, Iggy wrote:
> Ever heard of Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, the car
> manufacturers that you advertise for daily, the clothing maker's logos you
> freely display wherever you go, _*ETCETERA*_?
>>
> You put it out there for free and for anyone and everyone to do what
> they want
> with it and then you whine and complain how you didn't think of it first.
> Sorry Ed, but you keep re-hashing a ridiculous NON-argument!
>>
> Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt! Blame your
> family
> tree and everyone else's for allowing and promoting a more and more idiotic
> world and then any current abject moron who was stupid enough to have kids.
>

I see no advertising on my newsreader. I just see the topic under
discussion, though there are often off topic posts. I don't use
Facebook, Twitter, other crap like it.

I did, however, learn from you that your parents were morons. Explains
a lot.

c

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

04/11/2017 10:02 AM

On 04 Nov 2017 06:24:54 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> What bird you got??
>
>Cessna 152. Neat little airplane, even if you do fly it with the seat of
>your pants on the floor. :-)
>
>Puckdropper
Friend just bought a very early 152 - another friend has a '46
Aer-Coupe. Another has an ex military Cub.

Nice planes. Hope to have the Pegazair 100 in the air by this time
next year.

k

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 10:47 PM

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 15:20:04 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 11:44:18 AM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>> replying to Ed Pawlowski, Iggy wrote:
>> Ever heard of Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, the car
>> manufacturers that you advertise for daily, the clothing maker's logos you
>> freely display wherever you go, _*ETCETERA*_?
>> >
>> You put it out there for free and for anyone and everyone to do what they want
>> with it and then you whine and complain how you didn't think of it first.
>> Sorry Ed, but you keep re-hashing a ridiculous NON-argument!
>> >
>> Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt! Blame your family
>> tree and everyone else's for allowing and promoting a more and more idiotic
>> world and then any current abject moron who was stupid enough to have kids.
>
>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

I don't mind that he doesn't keep content, since he doesn't add any
content.

c

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 10:23 PM

On 03 Nov 2017 17:18:14 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>Iggy <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt! Blame your
>> family tree and everyone else's for allowing and promoting a more and
>> more idiotic world and then any current abject moron who was stupid
>> enough to have kids.
>>
>
>The airplane I'm going to go fly is even older. Still solves the problem
>it was built to solve and does it rather efficiently.
>
>Well... just got a text--too windy. Guess I'm not going flying. :-(
>
>Puckdropper
What bird you got??

Mm

Markem

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 03/11/2017 9:15 AM

03/11/2017 12:37 PM

On 3 Nov 2017 16:52:38 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2017-11-03, Iggy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Usenet's over 30-years old and it's still as dumb as dirt!
>
>Yet, you're still here. Why?.
>

His timeline is not right either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

He is not "using" usenet even though he actually is using it through
HOH. Probably just likes to argue and pump up his self image.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Markem on 02/11/2017 8:34 PM

03/11/2017 3:19 PM

On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
> replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
> Yep, I'm totally snobbish! Spam? It's ads that just sit there...graphics to
> me. I don't pay and I don't even login nor use cookies. It's pretty silly to
> surf the web with a browser and then abandon it for some decrepit and defunct
> bulletin board patchwork system.
> >
> And why shouldn't HOH make money, any interactive website's a lot of work.
> They're doing the work that all newsgroups were and are still too dumb and
> lazy to do. 30-years of newsgroups and it's the same old rotary phone? I
> wouldn't be surprised to find out most of the users still use CRT's, Floppies
> and 4800-baud modems.
>

Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

Ic

Iggy

in reply to Markem on 02/11/2017 8:34 PM

03/11/2017 12:14 PM

replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
Yep, I'm totally snobbish! Spam? It's ads that just sit there...graphics to
me. I don't pay and I don't even login nor use cookies. It's pretty silly to
surf the web with a browser and then abandon it for some decrepit and defunct
bulletin board patchwork system.
>
And why shouldn't HOH make money, any interactive website's a lot of work.
They're doing the work that all newsgroups were and are still too dumb and
lazy to do. 30-years of newsgroups and it's the same old rotary phone? I
wouldn't be surprised to find out most of the users still use CRT's, Floppies
and 4800-baud modems.

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k

in reply to Markem on 02/11/2017 8:34 PM

03/11/2017 10:45 PM

On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 12:14:01 GMT, Iggy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
>Yep, I'm totally snobbish! Spam? It's ads that just sit there...graphics to
>me. I don't pay and I don't even login nor use cookies. It's pretty silly to
>surf the web with a browser and then abandon it for some decrepit and defunct
>bulletin board patchwork system.

Your ignorance is only eclipsed by your arrogance.
>>
>And why shouldn't HOH make money, any interactive website's a lot of work.
>They're doing the work that all newsgroups were and are still too dumb and
>lazy to do. 30-years of newsgroups and it's the same old rotary phone? I
>wouldn't be surprised to find out most of the users still use CRT's, Floppies
>and 4800-baud modems.

No one cares that they make money. Many, here, care that they're
stealing content.

Mm

Markem

in reply to Markem on 02/11/2017 8:34 PM

03/11/2017 7:58 PM

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 15:19:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>> replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
>> Yep, I'm totally snobbish! Spam? It's ads that just sit there...graphics to
>> me. I don't pay and I don't even login nor use cookies. It's pretty silly to
>> surf the web with a browser and then abandon it for some decrepit and defunct
>> bulletin board patchwork system.
>> >
>> And why shouldn't HOH make money, any interactive website's a lot of work.
>> They're doing the work that all newsgroups were and are still too dumb and
>> lazy to do. 30-years of newsgroups and it's the same old rotary phone? I
>> wouldn't be surprised to find out most of the users still use CRT's, Floppies
>> and 4800-baud modems.
>>
>
>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?

Guess cause he is not on usenet.;>

Mm

Markem

in reply to Markem on 02/11/2017 8:34 PM

03/11/2017 11:44 AM

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 09:15:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/3/2017 8:14 AM, Iggy wrote:
>
>>>
>> And why shouldn't HOH make money, any interactive website's a lot of work.
>> They're doing the work that all newsgroups were and are still too dumb and
>> lazy to do. 30-years of newsgroups and it's the same old rotary phone? I
>> wouldn't be surprised to find out most of the users still use CRT's,
>> Floppies
>> and 4800-baud modems.
>>
>
>That interactive web site is stealing the post we make so they can
>profit. Do you think that is ethical?
>
>I don't see where they enhanced anything, just tke the work of others
>and exploit it. They are making money off of you too since you are
>adding content. Homeownershub is just sleazy and you think it is ok.

Ed usenet has always been free to use. No restriction placed on its
use. So HOH is not stealing it just using a free asset. Iggy is just
an argumentive individual (troll) which have been around since
forever.

c

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 10:19 PM

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
>> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
>> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
>> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
>> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
>> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
>> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>>
>
>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?
It's IGGY - what ro you expect (other than an arguement)?

c

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 11:18 PM

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 19:57:56 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:22:10 -0400
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> My brother lined his whole shop with bright galvanized sheet steel
>> roofing.
>
>haha but did he drywall it first or panel it
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Nope - just a big pole barn with 6X6 frame wall stuffed with rock
wool - the shop is up in the Muskokas - where it gets HOT in the
summer, and freeze the nuts off a bridge cold in the winter.

Ic

Iggy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 8:44 PM

replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.

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k

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

03/11/2017 10:50 PM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 23:16:44 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:33:37 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:22:10 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:28:55 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>>>>>> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
>>>>>> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
>>>>>> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
>>>>>> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
>>>>>> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
>>>>>> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
>>>>>> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?
>>>>
>>>>Line the damn shop in reflective mylar you will get great use of your
>>>>shop lights! ;>
>>> My brother lined his whole shop with bright galvanized sheet steel
>>>roofing.
>>
>>White paint is more reflective than either.
> That depends a bit on the wavelength and the white pigment used - and

Sure but I'm not talking about gray.

>a silver mirror reflects a LOT more light than white does.

Not so much.

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 7:56 PM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:28:55 -0500
Markem <[email protected]> wrote:

> Line the damn shop in reflective mylar you will get great use of your
> shop lights! ;>

there are paints formulated with reflective constituents

hmmm really not that bad of an idea








EC

Electric Comet

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 7:57 PM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:22:10 -0400
[email protected] wrote:

> My brother lined his whole shop with bright galvanized sheet steel
> roofing.

haha but did he drywall it first or panel it








k

in reply to "[email protected]" on 02/11/2017 12:52 PM

02/11/2017 10:33 PM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:22:10 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:28:55 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:44:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
>>>> replying to russellseaton1, Iggy wrote:
>>>> Just use your eyes, you won't find a buttercup yellow, hunter's orange, sky
>>>> blue or HomeOwners Hub green room makes a brightness difference much at all.
>>>> Then, you've got to explain your "white" is it actually Brilliant White like
>>>> from Home Depot's Behr paint or is it Benjamin Moore's or Sherwin Williams'
>>>> sad, poor and grotesque example of "Brilliant White"...that crap's grey,
>>>> dingy, old and as defunct as the manufacturers.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why do you snip our posts to such an extent that there absolutely no context left?
>>
>>Line the damn shop in reflective mylar you will get great use of your
>>shop lights! ;>
> My brother lined his whole shop with bright galvanized sheet steel
>roofing.

White paint is more reflective than either.

Ic

Iggy

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 2:49 PM

02/11/2017 4:14 PM

replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
I disagree and so do your eyes. If your house isn't white and brilliant bright
inside, a staining project will look completely different than it did in the
shop. That's why photographers use different lighting and colors to change the
tone of anything. Going to an orange, yellow, light blue or light green will
not only improve the feel of the shop but will lend some softness to the
project's look, while reflecting almost the same amount of light as white.

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LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 2:49 PM

03/11/2017 12:23 AM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 12:52:42 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
>> replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
>> Going to an orange, yellow, light blue or light green will not only
>> improve the feel of the shop but will lend some softness to the
>> project's look, while reflecting almost the same amount of light as
>> white.
>>
>>
> .. White is the top. And black is the bottom. Every other color is
> between those extremes. Its less bright than white, and brighter than
> black.

Wow! Thanks for sharing, David Duke ... white supremacy much? smh

--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 2:49 PM

02/11/2017 4:37 PM

Iggy <[email protected]> writes:
>replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
>I disagree and so do your eyes. If your house isn't white and brilliant bright
>inside, a staining project will look completely different than it did in the
>shop. That's why photographers use different lighting and colors to change the
>tone of anything. Going to an orange, yellow, light blue or light green will
>not only improve the feel of the shop but will lend some softness to the
>project's look, while reflecting almost the same amount of light as white.

Please learn to quote properly. Using something other than home moaners hub
would be a good start.

Second, interiors are repainted every few years. Staining furniture intended
to last multiple lifetimes to match a transient interior is silly.

Ic

Iggy

in reply to [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) on 02/11/2017 4:37 PM

02/11/2017 7:44 PM

replying to Scott Lurndal, Iggy wrote:
> Second, interiors are repainted every few years. Staining furniture intended
> to last multiple lifetimes to match a transient interior is silly.
Wow! You do a lot of painting, and yet, you still missed my spot here.

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EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 1:48 PM

On 11/2/2017 10:49 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Iggy <[email protected]> writes:
>> replying to Electric Comet, Iggy wrote:
>> Semi-gloss or gloss is the most durable and will reject scuff marks. Though,
>> white can be a bit sterile and unnatural for staining or refinishing, unless
>> the rest of the house is white. Here's a great little article on how color can
>> effect your work and your mood or rate of success with projects
>> https://freshome.com/room-color-and-how-it-affects-your-mood/
>
> None of that applies to the orignal question which was what color
> to use in a woodworking workshop. White is the appropriate answer,
> in conjunction with natural light, or with artifical light at circa
> 5000K color temperature.
>

From what I read, we should all be painting the shop orange. I'm on my
way to the paint store now. May be good in the bedroom too, if you know
what I mean!

Orange evokes excitement and enthusiasm, and is an energetic color.
While not a good idea for a living room or for bedrooms, this color is
great for an exercise room; it will bring out all the emotions that you
need released during your fitness routine. In ancient cultures, orange
was believed to heal the lungs and increase energy levels.

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

01/11/2017 9:48 PM

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:38:03 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>thinking just white paint as it reflects the most light
>
>but flat or semi or gloss
>
>
>looking for the best coating that will resist collecting dust and will
>blow off and thinking gloss would be best for that
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Definitely best to use a gloss paint - but the semi looks better

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

01/11/2017 6:54 PM

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> thinking just white paint as it reflects the most light
>
> but flat or semi or gloss
>
>
> looking for the best coating that will resist collecting dust and will
> blow off and thinking gloss would be best for that

Panel the shop with a high gloss white paneling. Oh wait, you are using lath and plaster, right?

rr

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

01/11/2017 9:16 PM

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 8:38:06 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> thinking just white paint as it reflects the most light
>
> but flat or semi or gloss
>

Yes white paint. My basement walls and floors are painted white. The shop. Flat, semi, gloss? Cheap and sold in 5 gallon buckets is the key.

Ic

Iggy

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 12:14 PM

replying to Electric Comet, Iggy wrote:
Semi-gloss or gloss is the most durable and will reject scuff marks. Though,
white can be a bit sterile and unnatural for staining or refinishing, unless
the rest of the house is white. Here's a great little article on how color can
effect your work and your mood or rate of success with projects
https://freshome.com/room-color-and-how-it-affects-your-mood/

--
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k

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

01/11/2017 9:57 PM

On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:48:35 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:38:03 -0700, Electric Comet
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>thinking just white paint as it reflects the most light
>>
>>but flat or semi or gloss
>>
>>
>>looking for the best coating that will resist collecting dust and will
>>blow off and thinking gloss would be best for that
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Definitely best to use a gloss paint - but the semi looks better

That's why they make semi-gloss and egg-shell. Hard, easy to clean,
surface and hides defects almost as well as flat.

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

01/11/2017 8:10 PM

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:54:41 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:


> Panel the shop with a high gloss white paneling. Oh wait, you are

wish i could get that white stuff they put on the roof of atlanta falcons
dome

never needs cleaning
it is formulated so nothing sticks to it






EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 8:00 PM

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 21:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes white paint. My basement walls and floors are painted white.
> The shop. Flat, semi, gloss? Cheap and sold in 5 gallon buckets is
> the key.

ha right i have already planned to swing by the paint shops and ask for
anything they mixed that was not sold

will not be pure white but if it is close to white and cheap







EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 8:02 PM

On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:48:35 -0400
[email protected] wrote:

> Definitely best to use a gloss paint - but the semi looks better

best in which way brightness and lower dust adhesion

anything else








c

in reply to Electric Comet on 01/11/2017 6:38 PM

02/11/2017 11:20 PM

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:02:01 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:48:35 -0400
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> Definitely best to use a gloss paint - but the semi looks better
>
>best in which way brightness and lower dust adhesion
>
>anything else
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Easier to clean, more durable.


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