We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg
address. We should stop and take a minute to reread it.
I hope you all noticed that our "illustrious" president decided not to
attend the ceremonies. I suspect he could not bring himself to attend
any thing that may honor what is stated in the last paragraph.
"- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain
-- that this nation, under GOD, shall have a new birth of freedom
-- and that government OF the people, BY the people, for the people,
shall not perish from the earth."
This is not what the social democrats what to promote. If they believe
that they would not be able to block all legislation to correct the
problems created when they unilaterally forced obamacare down our throats
Note My spell checker wants to replace obamacare with macabre, Even my
dumb computer know what is right
________________________________________________________________________
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this
continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the
proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or
any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on
a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of
that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives
that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we
should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate --
we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who
struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or
detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here,
but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living,
rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who
fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be
here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these
honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they
gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve
that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under
God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the
people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Abraham Lincoln
November 19, 1863"
Bob Martin wrote:
> in 1560857 20131119 154700 Sonny<[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:39:55 AM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
>>> We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg address. We should stop and take
>>a minute to reread it.
>>
>>PBS will air Lincoln@Gettysbrug tonight at 9CST, here. Check your local listing. http://www.pbs.or
>>g/about/news/archive/2013/pbs-lincoln-at-gettysburg/
>>
>>Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at Gettysburg.
>
> Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?
> It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.
Reading OT threads is optional anywhere on the planet. However, if
only 4 % of the planet is concerned with freedom, equality, and
abolishment of slavery then we are worse off than I imagined.
--
GW Ross
Fall seven times, stand up eight
--Japanese proverb
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:12:49 GMT, Bob Martin <[email protected]>
wrote:
>in 1560897 20131120 130327 "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Bob Martin wrote:
>>> in 1560857 20131119 154700 Sonny<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:39:55 AM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg address. We should stop and ta
>>ke
>>>>a minute to reread it.
>>>>
>>>>PBS will air Lincoln@Gettysbrug tonight at 9CST, here. Check your local listing. http://www.pbs.
>>or
>>>>g/about/news/archive/2013/pbs-lincoln-at-gettysburg/
>>>>
>>>>Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at Gettysburg.
>>>
>>> Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?
>>> It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.
>>
>>Reading OT threads is optional anywhere on the planet. However, if
>>only 4 % of the planet is concerned with freedom, equality, and
>>abolishment of slavery then we are worse off than I imagined.
>
>Totally irrelevant. If this group were flooded with posts on UK politics or
>French politics I think you'd be one of the first to complain.
If it were, I'd just hit "next", something you're more than welcome to
do.
>>Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at
>>Gettysburg.
-------------------------------------------------------
"Bob Martin" wrote:
> Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?
> It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.
---------------------------------------------------
Don't have a clue.
"96% of the planet"?
Freedom isn't "free" but are you suggesting that 96% of the
planet is enslaved?
What are your current woodworking projects?
What about posting some of your work?
Lew
"scritch" wrote:
> Keith, don't let your ideology contaminate your education. There
> are at least five accepted versions of the Gettysburg Address, and
> the President was asked by Ken Burns to read the Nicolay version,
> which does not contain the word "God" in it.
>
> And remember that it was those socialist Democrats that ended child
> labor, and brought you the 40-hour work week, overtime pay,
> workplace safety, food safety, cleaner air and water, etc. We have
> lived since 1980 under an increasingly non-socialist-Democrat
> philosophy and income disparity is as bad as in the Gilded Age, as
> bad as in 1929, wages for the vast majority have stagnated or
> dropped while the top 1% gained 16% more wealth just last year! So
> which system does right by more people, meaning you, unless you are
> one of the 1%.
-------------------------------------------
It is amazing to see how gullible some people can be when the snake
oil salesmen keep selling their voodoo under the guise of offering a
chance of getting rich if only they continue to accept Laissez-faire
and allow it to flourish.
Lew
>>>>Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc.,
>>>>at
>>>>Gettysburg.
>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>"Bob Martin" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?
>>> It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.
>>---------------------------------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>>Don't have a clue.
>>
>>"96% of the planet"?
>>
>>Freedom isn't "free" but are you suggesting that 96% of the
>>planet is enslaved?
>>
>> "are you suggesting that 96% of the planet is enslaved?"
------------------------------------------------------
"Bob Martin" wrote:
> How on earth do you get there?
----------------------------------------------------
Some reason you chose to snip my legimate questions rather than answer
them?
Fuck off limey.
Lew
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Uh. What does this have to do with Woodworking?
> Just curious.
---------------------------------------------
Read and understand OT in the Subject.
Lew
On 11/21/2013 10:09 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Uh. What does this have to do with Woodworking?
>> Just curious.
> ---------------------------------------------
> Read and understand OT in the Subject.
>
> Lew
>
>
Therein lies the problem. He and his ilk believe it means 'On Topic'
doh indeed.
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:39:55 AM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
> We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg address. We should stop and take a minute to reread it.
PBS will air Lincoln@Gettysbrug tonight at 9CST, here. Check your local listing. http://www.pbs.org/about/news/archive/2013/pbs-lincoln-at-gettysburg/
Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at Gettysburg.
Sonny
in 1560857 20131119 154700 Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:39:55 AM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
>> We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg address. We should stop and take
>a minute to reread it.
>
>PBS will air Lincoln@Gettysbrug tonight at 9CST, here. Check your local listing. http://www.pbs.or
>g/about/news/archive/2013/pbs-lincoln-at-gettysburg/
>
>Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at Gettysburg.
Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?
It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.
in 1560897 20131120 130327 "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Bob Martin wrote:
>> in 1560857 20131119 154700 Sonny<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:39:55 AM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg address. We should stop and ta
>ke
>>>a minute to reread it.
>>>
>>>PBS will air Lincoln@Gettysbrug tonight at 9CST, here. Check your local listing. http://www.pbs.
>or
>>>g/about/news/archive/2013/pbs-lincoln-at-gettysburg/
>>>
>>>Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at Gettysburg.
>>
>> Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?
>> It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.
>
>Reading OT threads is optional anywhere on the planet. However, if
>only 4 % of the planet is concerned with freedom, equality, and
>abolishment of slavery then we are worse off than I imagined.
Totally irrelevant. If this group were flooded with posts on UK politics or
French politics I think you'd be one of the first to complain.
in 1560924 20131120 183414 "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Last night, they aired the battle, details of the fighting, etc., at
>>>Gettysburg.
>-------------------------------------------------------
>"Bob Martin" wrote:
>
>
>> Isn't there a "US politics" newsgroup somewhere?
>> It has nothing to do with woodwork, or with 96% of the planet.
>---------------------------------------------------
>Don't have a clue.
>
>"96% of the planet"?
>
>Freedom isn't "free" but are you suggesting that 96% of the
>planet is enslaved?
>
"are you suggesting that 96% of the planet is enslaved?"
How on earth do you get there?
On 11/21/2013 8:36 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Uh. What does this have to do with Woodworking?
> Just curious.
Having OT in the subject line has a lot to do with the fact that, left
alone, decent and considerate people are quite capable of governing
themselves by common consent.
Wrap your mind that, instead of being so hell bent on controlling what
others do.
--
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Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net
google.com/+KarlCaillouet
http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On 11/19/2013 5:39 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg
> address. We should stop and take a minute to reread it.
>
> I hope you all noticed that our "illustrious" president decided not to
> attend the ceremonies. I suspect he could not bring himself to attend
> any thing that may honor what is stated in the last paragraph.
>
> "- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain
>
> -- that this nation, under GOD, shall have a new birth of freedom
>
> -- and that government OF the people, BY the people, for the people,
> shall not perish from the earth."
>
> This is not what the social democrats what to promote. If they believe
> that they would not be able to block all legislation to correct the
> problems created when they unilaterally forced obamacare down our throats
>
> Note My spell checker wants to replace obamacare with macabre, Even my
> dumb computer know what is right
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this
> continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the
> proposition that all men are created equal.
>
> Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or
> any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on
> a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of
> that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives
> that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we
> should do this.
>
> But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate --
> we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who
> struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or
> detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here,
> but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living,
> rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who
> fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be
> here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these
> honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they
> gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve
> that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under
> God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the
> people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
>
> Abraham Lincoln
> November 19, 1863"
Keith, don't let your ideology contaminate your education. There are at
least five accepted versions of the Gettysburg Address, and the
President was asked by Ken Burns to read the Nicolay version, which does
not contain the word "God" in it.
And remember that it was those socialist Democrats that ended child
labor, and brought you the 40-hour work week, overtime pay, workplace
safety, food safety, cleaner air and water, etc. We have lived since
1980 under an increasingly non-socialist-Democrat philosophy and income
disparity is as bad as in the Gilded Age, as bad as in 1929, wages for
the vast majority have stagnated or dropped while the top 1% gained 16%
more wealth just last year! So which system does right by more people,
meaning you, unless you are one of the 1%.
[email protected] wrote:
> Uh. What does this have to do with Woodworking?
> Just curious.
>
Not a thing - that's what the OT in the header indicates. Why does this
bother you? Yet another non-contributor raising up their objections, while
they themselves have offered nothing. Guess that makes your opinion...
worthless.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Uh. What does this have to do with Woodworking?
Just curious.
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:39:55 -0500, Keith Nuttle
<[email protected]> wrote:
>We are quickly approaching the 150 anniversary of the Gettysburg
>address. We should stop and take a minute to reread it.
>
>I hope you all noticed that our "illustrious" president decided not to
>attend the ceremonies. I suspect he could not bring himself to attend
>any thing that may honor what is stated in the last paragraph.
>
>"- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain
>
>-- that this nation, under GOD, shall have a new birth of freedom
>
>-- and that government OF the people, BY the people, for the people,
>shall not perish from the earth."
>
>This is not what the social democrats what to promote. If they believe
>that they would not be able to block all legislation to correct the
>problems created when they unilaterally forced obamacare down our throats
>
>Note My spell checker wants to replace obamacare with macabre, Even my
>dumb computer know what is right
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this
>continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the
>proposition that all men are created equal.
>
>Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or
>any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on
>a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of
>that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives
>that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we
>should do this.
>
>But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate --
>we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who
>struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or
>detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here,
>but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living,
>rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who
>fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be
>here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these
>honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they
>gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve
>that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under
>God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the
>people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
>
>Abraham Lincoln
>November 19, 1863"