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"PB"

06/09/2005 5:16 PM

Table saw rust removal

I read a few places that I need to sand with fine grit sandpaper and then
use wax to protect the surface. Problem is that all the products I read
about are not available in Canada. SC Johnson's Paste Wax and Butchers Paste
Wax.
Anyone in Canada can suggest a product I can use to protect the surface of
my table saw?

Thanks,

Patrick


This topic has 20 replies

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jo4hn

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

07/09/2005 7:47 AM

Wes Stewart wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:12:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>and
>>it's time to start thinking about winterizing it, starting with a good
>>wax job)
>
>
>
> I usually wait until November or December to wax my car, it's too damn
> hot until then. Get out in the yard in my shorts and sandals and give
> it a good wash job first and then wax away.
I try to wash the truck every couple of years whether it needs it or not.
j4

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 3:35 PM

If you use automotive wax, make sure it does not have any silicon. Very
bad on wood if you ever want to stain or seal.

Pd

"PB"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 8:02 PM

Troller,

No, this is my first post. And I know it's not difficult. I wanted
recommendations from people that have MUCH more experience then me.

Thanks for your comment even though you haven't helped.

Patrick
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Didn't you post this a while back? Any woodworking store will have
> surface protector, as will any woodworking catalog.
> It just isn't that difficult.
>

Pd

"PB"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 8:06 PM

Thanks Luigi, I went to Canadian Tire and asked the person working in the
hardware section. This is what he told me. "We sell a silicone based product
that protects and make the wood slide easier." He was surprised when I told
him that silicone stains wood.

I will try Lee Valley even though they are in Ottawa. At least I won't have
to deal with rediculous shipping from the US and the damn duties.

Thanks again and thanks to everyone that helped with my question.

Patrick


"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:16:46 -0400, "PB" <[email protected]> scribbled:
>
>>I read a few places that I need to sand with fine grit sandpaper and then
>>use wax to protect the surface. Problem is that all the products I read
>>about are not available in Canada. SC Johnson's Paste Wax and Butchers
>>Paste
>>Wax.
>>Anyone in Canada can suggest a product I can use to protect the surface of
>>my table saw?
>
>
> Lee Valley has Topcote & Boeshield which I've seen recommended here on
> the wreck many times.
> Topcote:
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=40952&cat=1,43415,43440&ap=1
>
> Boeshield:
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=50252&cat=1,43415,43440&ap=1
>
> Crappy Tire also has pure Carnauba wax in their automobile finish
> area. That should also work. They might also have other products, but
> I think you know enough not to use anything with silicone in it as it
> can screw up wood finishing. So don't use turtle wax or other
>
>
>
> Luigi
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
> www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
> www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

09/09/2005 1:50 AM

That reminds me. I think it's that year for mine too.

"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> I try to wash the truck every couple of years whether it needs it or not.
> j4

r

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

07/09/2005 4:12 AM

Canadian Tire usually has this stuff in stock, it claims it's pure

http://www.mothers.com/products/productcatalog/productpix/05701-05500.jpg

carnauba wax (which is what you should be using on your car too... and
it's time to start thinking about winterizing it, starting with a good
wax job)... I get the stuff in the can, not the bottle. It smells
great too.

PB <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Luigi, I went to Canadian Tire and asked the person working in the
> hardware section. This is what he told me. "We sell a silicone based product
> that protects and make the wood slide easier." He was surprised when I told
> him that silicone stains wood.
>
> I will try Lee Valley even though they are in Ottawa. At least I won't have
> to deal with rediculous shipping from the US and the damn duties.
>
> Thanks again and thanks to everyone that helped with my question.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:16:46 -0400, "PB" <[email protected]> scribbled:
>>
>>>I read a few places that I need to sand with fine grit sandpaper and then
>>>use wax to protect the surface. Problem is that all the products I read
>>>about are not available in Canada. SC Johnson's Paste Wax and Butchers
>>>Paste
>>>Wax.
>>>Anyone in Canada can suggest a product I can use to protect the surface of
>>>my table saw?
>>
>>
>> Lee Valley has Topcote & Boeshield which I've seen recommended here on
>> the wreck many times.
>> Topcote:
>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=40952&cat=1,43415,43440&ap=1
>>
>> Boeshield:
>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=50252&cat=1,43415,43440&ap=1
>>
>> Crappy Tire also has pure Carnauba wax in their automobile finish
>> area. That should also work. They might also have other products, but
>> I think you know enough not to use anything with silicone in it as it
>> can screw up wood finishing. So don't use turtle wax or other
>>
>>
>>
>> Luigi
>> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
>> www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
>> www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
>
>

FJ

"Frank J. Vitale"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

07/09/2005 4:43 PM

WD-40 and 3M scotch-brite heavy duty scrubbing pads are good for removing
rust.

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

08/09/2005 10:55 AM

"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in news:rEYTe.2052$7D1.1020
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:

>
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> If you use automotive wax, make sure it does not have any silicon. Very
>> bad on wood if you ever want to stain or seal.
>>
> I didn't realise that. It probably isn't all that hard to remove...
> Jim
>

Naptha, paper towels & elbow grease. Lots of each. Open the windows &
doors. Burn the towels safely when done.

Patriarch

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 10:26 PM


"PB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I read a few places that I need to sand with fine grit sandpaper and then
>use wax to protect the surface. Problem is that all the products I read
>about are not available in Canada. SC Johnson's Paste Wax and Butchers
>Paste Wax.
> Anyone in Canada can suggest a product I can use to protect the surface of
> my table saw?
Those products are just ordinary paste floor wax. Any brand will do. I
usually use an automobile spray wax.
Jim
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick
>

BB

Bruce Barnett

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

07/09/2005 12:57 AM

"PB" <[email protected]> writes:

> Thanks Luigi, I went to Canadian Tire and asked the person working in the
> hardware section. This is what he told me. "We sell a silicone based product
> that protects and make the wood slide easier." He was surprised when I told
> him that silicone stains wood.

Slight correction - It doesn't stain wood. But the silicone reacts
chemically to some finishes, causing "fish-eye" blotches (so I am
told).

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WS

Wes Stewart

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 9:23 PM

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:12:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

[snip]

>and
>it's time to start thinking about winterizing it, starting with a good
>wax job)


I usually wait until November or December to wax my car, it's too damn
hot until then. Get out in the yard in my shorts and sandals and give
it a good wash job first and then wax away.

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 11:06 PM

On 7 Sep 2005 00:57:13 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> scribbled:

>"PB" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Thanks Luigi, I went to Canadian Tire and asked the person working in the
>> hardware section. This is what he told me. "We sell a silicone based product
>> that protects and make the wood slide easier." He was surprised when I told
>> him that silicone stains wood.
>
>Slight correction - It doesn't stain wood. But the silicone reacts
>chemically to some finishes, causing "fish-eye" blotches (so I am
>told).

But it's ok to use on *finished* wood to make it slide better. Just
don't expect new finish to stick on wood that's got silicone on it.
But the carnauba wax is in the automobile cleaning section, along with
turtle wax and all that.

Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 11:50 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Jim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Those products are just ordinary paste floor wax. Any brand will do. I
>usually use an automobile spray wax.

Bad idea... the silicone that's in many (not all) automobile waxes will cause
fish-eye in many wood finishes. Yes, it *will* come off of the saw table onto
your project.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

RH

"Rod Hanson"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

09/09/2005 4:16 AM

Check this link for the stuff that works pretty darn good. With what came in
the box, some elbow grease, and a utility knife blade I restored a
basketcase to near new condition.

http://empiremfg.com/products/otc/ts/index.html

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 10:20 PM

Didn't you post this a while back? Any woodworking store will have surface
protector, as will any woodworking catalog.
It just isn't that difficult.

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

08/09/2005 3:19 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you use automotive wax, make sure it does not have any silicon. Very
> bad on wood if you ever want to stain or seal.
>
I didn't realise that. It probably isn't all that hard to remove...
Jim

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 4:05 PM

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:16:46 -0400, "PB" <[email protected]> scribbled:

>I read a few places that I need to sand with fine grit sandpaper and then
>use wax to protect the surface. Problem is that all the products I read
>about are not available in Canada. SC Johnson's Paste Wax and Butchers Paste
>Wax.
>Anyone in Canada can suggest a product I can use to protect the surface of
>my table saw?


Lee Valley has Topcote & Boeshield which I've seen recommended here on
the wreck many times.
Topcote:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=40952&cat=1,43415,43440&ap=1

Boeshield:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=50252&cat=1,43415,43440&ap=1

Crappy Tire also has pure Carnauba wax in their automobile finish
area. That should also work. They might also have other products, but
I think you know enough not to use anything with silicone in it as it
can screw up wood finishing. So don't use turtle wax or other



Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html

RM

"Rob Mills"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 11:14 PM


"PB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>>I read a few places that I need to sand with fine grit sandpaper <<<

Before you try that get some automotive buffing compound (Dupont) and a
husky automotive buffer and have at it. You will be surprised at what it
will remove without scuffing table.

Then apply several coats of Johnson's paste floor wax and buff out each
coat. Don't use same pad that was used with compound. RM~


Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

06/09/2005 5:35 PM

Try SLIPIT which is available from Grizzly. Comes in spray, liquid and
brush-on paste. I use the past at the suggestion of a Grizzly rep and it
works fine.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/searchresults.cfm?listtype=keyword&keywords=slipit


RonB


"PB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I read a few places that I need to sand with fine grit sandpaper and then
>use wax to protect the surface. Problem is that all the products I read
>about are not available in Canada. SC Johnson's Paste Wax and Butchers
>Paste Wax.
> Anyone in Canada can suggest a product I can use to protect the surface of
> my table saw?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick
>

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "PB" on 06/09/2005 5:16 PM

07/09/2005 12:38 AM

"PB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I will try Lee Valley even though they are in Ottawa. At least I won't
have
> to deal with rediculous shipping from the US and the damn duties.

What city are you in? Lee Valley has a number of stores situated in Canadian
cities.


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