That trumpet case again... The latch holes were routed out with rounds on
either end. Hard to match that. So I decided to chisel them out square.
I did a fair job of it, but not perfect. There's a little irregularity to
the holes. Because of where the new hardware needs to sit to look right, I
have to put one of the new fasteners through this area, and the only thing
holding that side of the latch in place will be the piece of wood that
plugs this hole. It needs to be stuck in there right and tight.
It's oak plywood about 1/2" thick. Has some voids, and it's decidedly
splintery from where they sewed vinyl onto the edges of this thing with
some huge ass don't-want-to-put-my-finger-in-front-of-THAT-needle sewing
machine. (A sewing machine that can punch a needle through 1/2 of oak
plywood about ten times per inch gets all the respect it wants from me.
That ain't yer grandma's Singer, folks.)
So anyway... I'm thinking to lay a piece of paper across the hole and do a
rubbing so I can carefully fit something to all the slight irregularities.
I want to aim for a good press fit, but even at that, the other side of
this (the splintery, voidy oak ply) isn't the best for achieving a good
glue joint. The forces at play here will be trying to pull this plug
straight out of the hole from the top.
Maybe chamfer it so that it's smaller at the outside (the top) than the
inside? I have a little room to play, but not much. One side of this hole
is close to the joint between the bottom and the lid, and there's only
about 1/4" of wood there, with a lip on it, so it's mostly rather thin.
]]] <-- lid engages with this lip
]]]
]]]]]]]
]]]]]]]
<-- hole needs filling
]]]]]]]
]]]]]]]
]]]]]]] outside of case ---->
]]]]]]]
I can't get access all around to do dowels. I might could stick in a couple
of metal pins from two sides, if I can find a long, skinny bit and some
long, skinny rods. That still isn't going to help much, and I'd have to be
careful of putting the metal in a place that prevented me from putting the
screw through later.
I *can* get access to the back side of this, but I can't put anything thick
in there. Maybe 1/8" but no more. That suggests backing it up with a
piece of steel somehow, but that presents problems with the brass screw
that's going to go into this plugged hole.
That $50 trumpet case is looking better and better. :)
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Somebody wrote:
> > I should have stressed that it's a *rectangular* hole. :)
> >
> > Face on, it looks a bit like this
> >
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <-- thin lip
> > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
> > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
> > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
> >
> > Too close to the thin edge to bore it out. It's also comparatively
huge.
> > 7/8" x 2" or thereabouts.
> >
> > There are two of these, one on either side of the handle. Both need
> > filling.
> >
> > Shouldda kept looking for drop in replacement hardware. Oh well.
Think about a Dutchman.
Lew
Wilson wrote:
> How about boring to a standars size and plugging?
> Nothing will pull out a properly fitted/glued plug.
I should have stressed that it's a *rectangular* hole. :)
Face on, it looks a bit like this
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <-- thin lip
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
Too close to the thin edge to bore it out. It's also comparatively huge.
7/8" x 2" or thereabouts.
There are two of these, one on either side of the handle. Both need
filling.
Shouldda kept looking for drop in replacement hardware. Oh well.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
How about boring to a standars size and plugging?
Nothing will pull out a properly fitted/glued plug.
Wilson
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That trumpet case again... The latch holes were routed out with rounds on
> either end. Hard to match that. So I decided to chisel them out square.
>
> I did a fair job of it, but not perfect. There's a little irregularity to
> the holes. Because of where the new hardware needs to sit to look right,
I
> have to put one of the new fasteners through this area, and the only thing
> holding that side of the latch in place will be the piece of wood that
> plugs this hole. It needs to be stuck in there right and tight.
>
> It's oak plywood about 1/2" thick. Has some voids, and it's decidedly
> splintery from where they sewed vinyl onto the edges of this thing with
> some huge ass don't-want-to-put-my-finger-in-front-of-THAT-needle sewing
> machine. (A sewing machine that can punch a needle through 1/2 of oak
> plywood about ten times per inch gets all the respect it wants from me.
> That ain't yer grandma's Singer, folks.)
>
> So anyway... I'm thinking to lay a piece of paper across the hole and do
a
> rubbing so I can carefully fit something to all the slight irregularities.
> I want to aim for a good press fit, but even at that, the other side of
> this (the splintery, voidy oak ply) isn't the best for achieving a good
> glue joint. The forces at play here will be trying to pull this plug
> straight out of the hole from the top.
>
> Maybe chamfer it so that it's smaller at the outside (the top) than the
> inside? I have a little room to play, but not much. One side of this
hole
> is close to the joint between the bottom and the lid, and there's only
> about 1/4" of wood there, with a lip on it, so it's mostly rather thin.
>
> ]]] <-- lid engages with this lip
> ]]]
> ]]]]]]]
> ]]]]]]]
>
>
>
> <-- hole needs filling
>
>
> ]]]]]]]
> ]]]]]]]
> ]]]]]]] outside of case ---->
> ]]]]]]]
>
> I can't get access all around to do dowels. I might could stick in a
couple
> of metal pins from two sides, if I can find a long, skinny bit and some
> long, skinny rods. That still isn't going to help much, and I'd have to
be
> careful of putting the metal in a place that prevented me from putting the
> screw through later.
>
> I *can* get access to the back side of this, but I can't put anything
thick
> in there. Maybe 1/8" but no more. That suggests backing it up with a
> piece of steel somehow, but that presents problems with the brass screw
> that's going to go into this plugged hole.
>
> That $50 trumpet case is looking better and better. :)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
If your situation allows it add a backer piece behind your square plug
that's larger than the hole which is made of something substantial like
Baltic Birch plywood or a good piece of oak. Make this backer piece about 2
X bigger than your square hole, or larger if possible. Use epoxy to glue in
the backer piece and your square plug. Clamp everything in place for about
24 hours. Then sand it smooth and apply the finish. If you fitted you plug
properly the repair will be strong and almost invisible.
Charley
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wilson wrote:
>
> > How about boring to a standars size and plugging?
> > Nothing will pull out a properly fitted/glued plug.
>
> I should have stressed that it's a *rectangular* hole. :)
>
> Face on, it looks a bit like this
>
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <-- thin lip
> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[ [[[[[[[[[[[[[
> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
>
> Too close to the thin edge to bore it out. It's also comparatively huge.
> 7/8" x 2" or thereabouts.
>
> There are two of these, one on either side of the handle. Both need
> filling.
>
> Shouldda kept looking for drop in replacement hardware. Oh well.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
> http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/