I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a variety
of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high cabinet
sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because I
have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and several
8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of them
would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
anyone tried this type of layout?
I can easily make the 3' cabinets. I have plans from a variety of books,
magazines, New Yankee workshop, etc. which I can steal ideas from.
I haven't found any plans for the 8' tall cabinets. I don't want to
reinvent the wheel, and I don't want to build a cabinet only to find out
after the fact that my design was a disaster. Does anyone know of any plans
for such a cabinet?
AL writes:
>I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a variety
>of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high cabinet
>sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
>cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because I
>have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
>space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
>
>I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and several
>8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of them
>would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
>anyone tried this type of layout?
I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the tall
cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I don't
recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be building
something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our last
house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a floor to
ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly attached to
the wall.
Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25" deep
bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG for
french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add some
extra under-cabinet lighting.
Charlie Self
"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
man."
H. L. Mencken
Dave,
Did you want to make sure everyone saw your reply? :-)
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4uVEc.8001$Oq2.7810@attbi_s52...
> Why do you need a plan? Sketch one out on paper and build it.
>
>
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > AL writes:
> >
> > >I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a
> variety
> > >of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high
> cabinet
> > >sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3'
high
> > >cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement
because
> I
> > >have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find
the
> > >space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too
dark.
> > >
> > >I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and
> several
> > >8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of
> them
> > >would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> > >anyone tried this type of layout?
> >
> > I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the
tall
> > cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I
> don't
> > recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be
> building
> > something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our
> last
> > house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a
> floor to
> > ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
> >
> > If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly
> attached to
> > the wall.
> >
> > Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25"
> deep
> > bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG
for
> > french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add
> some
> > extra under-cabinet lighting.
> >
> > Charlie Self
> > "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
> from
> > man."
> > H. L. Mencken
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Why do you need a plan? Sketch one out on paper and build it.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AL writes:
>
> >I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a
variety
> >of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high
cabinet
> >sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
> >cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because
I
> >have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
> >space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
> >
> >I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and
several
> >8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of
them
> >would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> >anyone tried this type of layout?
>
> I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the tall
> cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I
don't
> recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be
building
> something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our
last
> house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a
floor to
> ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
>
> If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly
attached to
> the wall.
>
> Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25"
deep
> bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG for
> french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add
some
> extra under-cabinet lighting.
>
> Charlie Self
> "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
from
> man."
> H. L. Mencken
>
>
>
AL:
Pop Woodworking ran an shop cabinet plan about 3/4 years ago
that had a very tall cabinet. I built two - out of MDF (never again)
but I can't recall the height, but they work close to 8'ft. I found the
height and weight hard to manage and would build them
in two 4 ft sections and join them in the middle with some
banding. I also think that Am Woodworker has a "monster"
shop cabinet almost that height. Search their indexes.
Good luck!
MJ Wallace
Why do you need a plan? Sketch one out on paper and build it.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AL writes:
>
> >I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a
variety
> >of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high
cabinet
> >sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
> >cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because
I
> >have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
> >space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
> >
> >I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and
several
> >8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of
them
> >would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> >anyone tried this type of layout?
>
> I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the tall
> cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I
don't
> recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be
building
> something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our
last
> house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a
floor to
> ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
>
> If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly
attached to
> the wall.
>
> Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25"
deep
> bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG for
> french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add
some
> extra under-cabinet lighting.
>
> Charlie Self
> "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
from
> man."
> H. L. Mencken
>
>
>
My ISP is all screwed up and put this reply in the out box and every time I
accessed my mail it kept sending it. Sorry!!
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:kwVEc.7342$wY5.6797@attbi_s54...
> Why do you need a plan? Sketch one out on paper and build it.
>
>
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > AL writes:
> >
> > >I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a
> variety
> > >of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high
> cabinet
> > >sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3'
high
> > >cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement
because
> I
> > >have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find
the
> > >space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too
dark.
> > >
> > >I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and
> several
> > >8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of
> them
> > >would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> > >anyone tried this type of layout?
> >
> > I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the
tall
> > cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I
> don't
> > recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be
> building
> > something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our
> last
> > house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a
> floor to
> > ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
> >
> > If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly
> attached to
> > the wall.
> >
> > Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25"
> deep
> > bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG
for
> > french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add
> some
> > extra under-cabinet lighting.
> >
> > Charlie Self
> > "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
> from
> > man."
> > H. L. Mencken
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Why do you need a plan? Sketch one out on paper and build it.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AL writes:
>
> >I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a
variety
> >of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high
cabinet
> >sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
> >cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because
I
> >have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
> >space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
> >
> >I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and
several
> >8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of
them
> >would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> >anyone tried this type of layout?
>
> I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the tall
> cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I
don't
> recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be
building
> something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our
last
> house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a
floor to
> ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
>
> If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly
attached to
> the wall.
>
> Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25"
deep
> bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG for
> french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add
some
> extra under-cabinet lighting.
>
> Charlie Self
> "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
from
> man."
> H. L. Mencken
>
>
>
> I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the tall
> cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction.
Ditto. I did a 7' cab for my pantry and said "never again". 4' pieces are
much more managable. In a shop setting the center band would be much less of
an aesthetic compromise.
*for me* I find that working > 4' sections increases the inevitable subtle
errors. I find that out-of-squareness errors tend to be linear with size so
components tend to mitigate that problem.
-Steve
For the counter top versions, consider building
a size that the cheap borg tops will fit. You can
buy post formed counter tops pretty cheap. Stay
alert for "mistakes" and "wrong colors" counter
tops in Lowes and Home Depot. You can often find
"real deals" for cheap money...
I would build two four footers and stack them up.
Building a square eight foot cabinet with todays material
is gonna be a bitch.
I also would have a problem with a door that large.
The four footers will also be MUCH easier to move around.
In fact, I would build the uppers with shelves and the
lower units with full extension drawers. You will find
that you need to store LOTS of small item that just work
out better in drawers. I use the word "drawer" when I
really refer to a "tray" style drawer.
A eight footer(top four footer) is also gonna be a bitch
to reach into. Any shelf much higher than six feet is
almost no usable.
Buy a couple sheets of MDF and build a "mock up" of your
"proposed" cabinet to see how it's all gonna work out.
That would be better than thirty feet of bad design....
AL wrote:
> I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a variety
> of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high cabinet
> sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
> cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because I
> have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
> space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
>
> I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and several
> 8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of them
> would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> anyone tried this type of layout?
>
> I can easily make the 3' cabinets. I have plans from a variety of books,
> magazines, New Yankee workshop, etc. which I can steal ideas from.
>
> I haven't found any plans for the 8' tall cabinets. I don't want to
> reinvent the wheel, and I don't want to build a cabinet only to find out
> after the fact that my design was a disaster. Does anyone know of any plans
> for such a cabinet?
>
>
Why do you need a plan? Sketch one out on paper and build it.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AL writes:
>
> >I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a
variety
> >of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high
cabinet
> >sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
> >cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because
I
> >have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
> >space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
> >
> >I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and
several
> >8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of
them
> >would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> >anyone tried this type of layout?
>
> I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the tall
> cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I
don't
> recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be
building
> something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our
last
> house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a
floor to
> ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
>
> If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly
attached to
> the wall.
>
> Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25"
deep
> bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG for
> french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add
some
> extra under-cabinet lighting.
>
> Charlie Self
> "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
from
> man."
> H. L. Mencken
>
>
>
Why do you need a plan? Sketch one out on paper and build it.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AL writes:
>
> >I want to line one wall in my shop (approximately 30' long) with a
variety
> >of cabinets. I do not like the kitchen-like layout with a 3' high
cabinet
> >sitting on the floor with a countertop, a space in between, and a 3' high
> >cabinet hanging from the wall above. I dislike this arrangement because
I
> >have doubts about how much weight my wall can hold, and I always find the
> >space between the upper and lower cabinets to be too small and too dark.
> >
> >I'm thinking about making several 3' cabinets (with countertops) and
several
> >8' cabinets (without countertops), and butting them together. All of
them
> >would be floor standing, and none would be hanging from the wall. Has
> >anyone tried this type of layout?
>
> I don't see why it can't be done. For easiest installation, make the tall
> cabinets in 2 sections, and use a center band to hide the junction. I
don't
> recall seeing any plans for this sort of cabinet, but I'm going to be
building
> something very similar for a part of my kitchen...we had a pantry in our
last
> house and my wife insists on one here. There's space. We had planned a
floor to
> ceiling cabinet. Make it deeper and go.
>
> If you make your tall cabinets shallow, make sure they're strongly
attached to
> the wall.
>
> Otherwise, you might consider the classic 12" (approx.) deep top and 25"
deep
> bottom, using a french cleat to hang the wall cabinets. Google this NG for
> french cleat. If it's too dark, which I really doubt, you can always add
some
> extra under-cabinet lighting.
>
> Charlie Self
> "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
from
> man."
> H. L. Mencken
>
>
>