On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:08:34 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Hi,
>I recall seeing an article recently about fitting inset cabinet doors.
>I think it was in FWW but I maybe mistaken. I saw it within the last
>18 months or so.
FWW No.176, April 2005, pp 74-79
Wes
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:46:01 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Hi,
>> I recall seeing an article recently about fitting inset cabinet doors.
>> I think it was in FWW but I maybe mistaken. I saw it within the last
>> 18 months or so.
>> Mike
>
>If can be of some help, here's the pertinent parts of an old post of mine
>from a couple of years back:
<snip>
>You have previously made the door oversize in both dimensions ... about
>3/32" wider and taller than the door opening ... you want to end up with
>about a 1/16" gap, all around, between the door and the face frame of a
>single, inset door in a cabinet.
<snip>
Is the door getting painted ? Varnished ? Finish will add thickness.
What part of the country are you located ? What time of year are you
fitting the doors? Seasonal changes will effect the gap.
In my opinion, if you don't factor in all these variables you could be
re-fitting the doors if you only allow 1/16" gap.
Lenny
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Thanks to all.
Mike
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 00:04:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Thanks, I guess you're right about square frame + square door = good
>fit. More for reference and frustration knowing I have it somewhere.
>Thanks again,
>Mike
>On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:28:04 GMT, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Mike,
>>
>>I have that issue somwhere, but reading it the guy went to all sorts of
>>trouble making them fit. I donno, but if you make a square cabinet and
>>square door it should fit, no? BTW, I was looking at these Blum inset
>>hinges at a cabinet store today and they work well for the inset door. They
>>made a bevel on each edge of the door to provide for clearance and a tight
>>fit of the door.
>>
>>Gee whiz Mike right on top of the stack, the April 2005 issue, # 176.
>>
>>R.
>>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Hi,
>>> I recall seeing an article recently about fitting inset cabinet doors.
>>> I think it was in FWW but I maybe mistaken. I saw it within the last
>>> 18 months or so.
>>> Mike
>>
Thanks, I guess you're right about square frame + square door = good
fit. More for reference and frustration knowing I have it somewhere.
Thanks again,
Mike
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:28:04 GMT, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Mike,
>
>I have that issue somwhere, but reading it the guy went to all sorts of
>trouble making them fit. I donno, but if you make a square cabinet and
>square door it should fit, no? BTW, I was looking at these Blum inset
>hinges at a cabinet store today and they work well for the inset door. They
>made a bevel on each edge of the door to provide for clearance and a tight
>fit of the door.
>
>Gee whiz Mike right on top of the stack, the April 2005 issue, # 176.
>
>R.
>
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>> I recall seeing an article recently about fitting inset cabinet doors.
>> I think it was in FWW but I maybe mistaken. I saw it within the last
>> 18 months or so.
>> Mike
>
Mike,
I have that issue somwhere, but reading it the guy went to all sorts of
trouble making them fit. I donno, but if you make a square cabinet and
square door it should fit, no? BTW, I was looking at these Blum inset
hinges at a cabinet store today and they work well for the inset door. They
made a bevel on each edge of the door to provide for clearance and a tight
fit of the door.
Gee whiz Mike right on top of the stack, the April 2005 issue, # 176.
R.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I recall seeing an article recently about fitting inset cabinet doors.
> I think it was in FWW but I maybe mistaken. I saw it within the last
> 18 months or so.
> Mike
"Lenny" wrote in message
"Swingman" wrote:
> >If can be of some help, here's the pertinent parts of an old post of mine
> >from a couple of years back:
> <snip>
> >You have previously made the door oversize in both dimensions ... about
> >3/32" wider and taller than the door opening ... you want to end up with
> >about a 1/16" gap, all around, between the door and the face frame of a
> >single, inset door in a cabinet.
> <snip>
>
> Is the door getting painted ? Varnished ? Finish will add thickness.
> What part of the country are you located ? What time of year are you
> fitting the doors? Seasonal changes will effect the gap.
> In my opinion, if you don't factor in all these variables you could be
> re-fitting the doors if you only allow 1/16" gap.
If a pig had wings ...
The 1/16" gap around inset doors/drawers is traditional in fine furniture,
but you do what you want.
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:08:34 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Hi,
>I recall seeing an article recently about fitting inset cabinet doors.
>I think it was in FWW but I maybe mistaken. I saw it within the last
>18 months or so.
>Mike
There have been several articles in recent history:
Fitting inset doors: ShopNotes Vol 14, #80 Mar/Apr 2005 pp 26 ff
Install inset doors with ease: Fine Woodworking March/April 2005 pp 74 ff
While in the ideal world, the easiest installation is to have perfectly
square doors and perfectly square frames, in my world those events have yet
to happen. Slight misalignments and other stuff happens. These articles
give some good tips for fitting doors in the real world.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I recall seeing an article recently about fitting inset cabinet doors.
> I think it was in FWW but I maybe mistaken. I saw it within the last
> 18 months or so.
> Mike
If can be of some help, here's the pertinent parts of an old post of mine
from a couple of years back:
One method, of many:
Requirement: Perfectly, as possible, "square" face frame/cabinet sides.
Requirement: Perfectly, as possible, "flat" stock for the doors rails and
stiles, so the door has NO warp.
If the door is warped, do something to get rid of it ... the warp, or the
door. If the FF/cabinet sides are warped ... well.
You have previously made the door oversize in both dimensions ... about
3/32" wider and taller than the door opening ... you want to end up with
about a 1/16" gap, all around, between the door and the face frame of a
single, inset door in a cabinet.
Generally start by placing a bottom and top side, usually the bottom rail
and hinge side stile, in the door opening.
Then start your choice of planing, cutting, jointing, sanding, on the top
rail and opposite stile, for a TIGHT fit of the door in the opening.
Once you get the top and hinge side reduced to where the door will go JUST
go in the opening with NO room to spare, pull the door out and make a mark
1/8" across the top rail and opposite stile.
Plane, cut, joint, sand, to this line ... but sneak up on it, with as many
trial fittings as you need.
TIP: A good block plane is a invaluable tool when fitting inset doors.
Good luck ...
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